magnesium

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> Dennis-

>

> >Where did you

> >get it? I'm betting you had processed not raw, fresh, real. Am I

> >right? I'll even give you odds.

>

> Fresh-made at a health-food store. I watched them feed the wheat

grass

> through the juicer into a cup which I had a couple sips from. My

god, I'd

> rather face a firing squad or eat raw kidneys! <g>

>

>

>

> -

, You can get fresh wheatgrass out here in Kansas. The stuff you

had was probably grown in a milk pail or cardboard box somewhere over

the rainbow! Dennis

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> and , you're wakin' me up! Where did you

> get it? I'm betting you had processed not raw, fresh, real. Am I

> right? I'll even give you odds. Dennis

You lose! I've had it a few times, because I really thought I " should " like

it. A couple of times were at my local co-op where they cut the live grass

and throw it directly into the juicer after you order it. The other time

was at a local juice bar where they follow the same procedure. I suspect

that wheatgrass is one of those things where people fall into " taster " and

" non-taster " categories. There are other foods where some people are simply

able to taste something that other people can't taste. The moment I tasted

wheatgrass after the juice bar worker told me that it tasted like warm diet

pepsi, I knew for sure that I could taste a whole world of foulness that he

could not. It tasted like diet pepsi about as much as an open and aging

latrine smells like freshly baked rolls or stockyard runoff smells like

fruit loops.

Yeechhh! In fact, I've had powdered barley grass and wheat grass juices

before, and I didn't think they tasted nearly as bad as the fresh wheatgrass

did. They were milder than the fresh stuff was. I could actually consider

burying some of the powdered stuff in a smoothy. Nothing could compel me to

befoul anything with the fresh stuff though.

I'm glad you like it though! More power to you! If I'm ever starving, I'll

reconsider my aversion, but as long as I have enough other sources of

nutrition around I'll stick to getting my grasses by way of a big brown-eyed

proxy named Bessie.

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At 11:14 PM 4/12/02 +0000, you wrote:

I watched them feed the wheat

>grass

>> through the juicer into a cup which I had a couple sips from.  My

>god, I'd

>> rather face a firing squad or eat raw kidneys!  <g>

>> -

Never had wheatgrass juice but it seems as appetizing as the kidneys Dad would

give to the English neighbor along with " Boil the p*** out of them, Rose " Was

the only organ he had no use for and there has to be a reason. Think I'd try

the predigested grass in the intestine in the Guts and Grease article first.

Wanita

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>At 09:31 PM 4/12/02 +0000, wrote:

>

>>Are you sure it's Magnesium? There are some other vitamins in milk which

are

>>destroyed by light, but Magnesium is a chemical element and cannot be

>>destroyed chemically. A nuclear reaction could convert it to another

>>element, but those typically don't occur in refrigerators.

I wrote:

May have been fluorescent lighting though.

Come to think of it fluorescent lighting converts me into a grumpy person

after

a few hours. Hadn't worked uunder them for 4 years. Started going to 2 hour

meetings under them and noticed I was squinting and getting headachy.

Wanita

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...>

> ***, why *wouldn't* it be solid with all those saturated fats in

there?

> I've been using this brand recently (the pure coconut milk - nothing

added)

> and it smells fine and is solid, although one can separated after

> refrigeration.

Speaking of coconut oil, are there any other natural fats or oils which have

a higher percentage of saturated fatty acids?

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>I knew for sure that I could taste a whole world of foulness that he

could not. It tasted like diet pepsi about as much as an open and aging

latrine smells like freshly baked rolls or stockyard runoff smells like

fruit loops.

,

I have to complement you on your imagery. : )

Sonja

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Outside of Superfood, I prefer the proxy method of getting my grasses,

like buffalo, cow, ostrich, lamb, etc. :-)

Bianca

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 06:57:12 -0400 " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...>

writes:

>>>>I'm not going to eat or drink wheat grass, but do you know that milk

from

cows eating it is rich in magnesium? I am getting raw dairy from 100%

grass-fed Jersey cows now. Is that enough?

Just an FYI, some grasses (at the unjointed stage) *far* exceed many

vegetables in nutrient density. For example, there is 52,000 IU carotene

in

100 g of wheat and barley grass as compared to 1,000 IU in kale or 8,000

IUs

in spinach. Another example, there's 224.7 mgs magnesium in 100 g grass,

98

mgs in 100 g spinach, 14 mgs in 100 gs milk, and 11 mgs in 100 gs

tomatoes.

Finally, there's 8,880 mgs potassium in 100 gs grass, but only 348 mgs in

100 gs bananas, and 160 mgs in 100 gs milk.

Note, these values will vary depending on soil fertility, and the milk is

likely commercial. I have a comparison chart from the Wysong company that

I

can upload to the files section if anyone's interested.

I'm not a big eater, and I feel that I don't eat enough vegetables in one

day to meet my nutrient needs, so I add some organic powdered grasses to

my

morning shake, and I have to say the shakes I've been doing lately are

absolutely delicious. But, if I put too much grass in, it does get a

malty/grassy taste.

Suze Fisher

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>Keep an eye out for Port Arthur or Hokan brands, I'm pretty sure they're

>both still just water and coconut. Also, if you have any asian, polynesian,

>or indian markets nearby, try looking at the imported stuff they have there.

I do need to find some good Asian and Indian markets. (Wouldn't mind

browsing through a Polynesian market too, but I don't know that I've ever

seen one.) There are plenty in Manhattan, but Manhattan's a pretty big

place, and I live in an overwhelmingly Hispanic neighborhood. (There's a

small African presence, but the stores I've wandered into don't seem to

have much in the way of African foods (no good tamarind paste, for example)

and the little Jamaican hole-in-the-wall restaurant that made the most

delicious jerked chicken, curried goat and whatnot I've ever tasted

unfortunately changed management and turned to crap. Actually, it's

probably just as well -- I'd have eaten three meals a day if they'd

stayed. <g>)

Say, have you ever tried Kara coconut cream? It comes in little cardboard

boxes, which makes me wonder whether it's been irradiated, but it's

supposed to be peerless. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any --

or determine whether the rumor that all foods in those cardboard boxes have

been irradiated. (Pomi?)

>Maybe there's something to be said about our little " flyover " cities... :-)

Well, you can get just about anything in NYC, but not always all in the

same place. <g>

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> Say, have you ever tried Kara coconut cream? It comes in little cardboard

> boxes, which makes me wonder whether it's been irradiated, but it's

> supposed to be peerless. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any

--

> or determine whether the rumor that all foods in those cardboard boxes

have

> been irradiated. (Pomi?)

No I haven't tried it; in fact, I'm not sure I've seen it. The name looks

familiar, but it could just be the similarity of the name to Karo (as in

corn syrup).

Well, you can get just about anything in NYC, but not always all in the

same place. <g>

That's pretty much how it is here. If somebody can't find something

*somewhere* in the Twin Cities, they're usually either not looking very

well, or they don't have a car. Doing anything in a reasonable amount of

time here invariably involves having a vehicle.

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----- Original Message -----

From: " dkemnitz2000 " <dkemnitz2000@...>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>, You think the juices in grass are encased

> in wood? How do you account for the Brix, the measurement of sugars,

> in plant tissue as measured with the refractometer? Some minerals and

> some CHO's must be bioavailable to humans. Dennis

Well, I didn't mean that literally, but wood is made mostly of cellulose,

isn't it? And that makes everything inside inaccessible unless the cell

walls are broken down. I'm not necessarily saying that we shouldn't consume

grass in any form--only that it was fairly useless as food until relatively

modern techniques such as fermentation and juicing became available, whereas

milk can be consumed and utilized in its natural state. My primary point was

that all " unnatural " foods aren't equally suitable (or unsuitable) for human

consumption.

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:55:27 -0400 " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...>

writes:

Me:

>>>>>***Well, aside from the Masai, and maybe a few regional Europeans in

the

last 10,000 years or so, we are not *natural* milk drinkers either, are

we?

(Meaning *adult* humans.)

Bianca:

+++++++++I'm not convinced of this. Would someone care to enlighten me?

Me:

*I* can't - it's merely an opinion, and could very well be wrong.

was

saying how unnatural it is for humans to eat grass, so my point was that

I'm

not convinced that we are 'natural' milk drinkers any more than we are

'natural' grass eaters. I eat both, natural or not.

What do you think? And why?

******Suze,

Outside of mother's milk I'm not sure we are " natural " eaters of

anything. The term and the apparent assumptions behind it just don't make

a lot of sense to me. It strikes me as the " milk is for babes " only kind

of approach. I guess what I'm looking for when it comes to paleo

approaches to diet is some hard concrete evidence that isn't merely an

extrapolation into the past, an approach that to me is fraught with

technical dangers.

Dairy, meat, and even grain eaters to some extent all seem to be fairly

contemporary to one another in terms of what we know that is not all that

controversial (although the conclusions we draw from this info might be).

But the milk argument based on evolutionary assumptions does not seem to

work all that well. Doesn't mean it isn't true it just strikes me as a

lot of speculation at this point. Not to mention that there seems to be

some evidence that the Hebrews, ancient and otherwise, have always

consumed dairy products, even before the so called agricultural

revolution.

Just some thoughts,

Bianca

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> Dairy, meat, and even grain eaters to some extent all seem to be fairly

> contemporary to one another in terms of what we know that is not all that

> controversial (although the conclusions we draw from this info might be).

> But the milk argument based on evolutionary assumptions does not seem to

> work all that well. Doesn't mean it isn't true it just strikes me as a

> lot of speculation at this point. Not to mention that there seems to be

> some evidence that the Hebrews, ancient and otherwise, have always

> consumed dairy products, even before the so called agricultural

> revolution.

There really isn't much controversy about whether there was meat consumption

in early hominids. There's controversy about how much there was, but not

whether it occurred or not. It would, however, be very controversial to try

to claim any dairy or anything but very minimal (and seasonal) grain

consumption prior to the late paleolithic. So while it's true that dairy

and grain are pretty contemporary to one another, I don't think it's true

for meat since a clear case for its presence in the diet can be made going

back at least hundreds of thousands of years.

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Is it because it s fun to watch magnesium burn?

Anything fun is important!

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From: Marie Deady Mardea@...

Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 06:16:37 -0400

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] magnesium

Does anyone know why magnesium is so important for ms'ers?

Marie

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Marie

Yes I do know

But it too early in the morning give me a few minutes and I'll answer

you as to why magnesium is important.

Mira

On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 05:16 US/Central, Marie Deady wrote:

> Does anyone know why magnesium is so important for ms'ers?

> Marie

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