Price and exercise

[Guest guest]

That would be zero. I do yoga and a lot of walking. This issue actually brings

up another question I have about Price's work. We talk about what the groups he

studied ate, but there are other factors that contribute to health as well.

Like exercise, for example. My assumption is that the " healthy primitives " had

MUCH more physical activity in their lives. Since many of us on this list sit

in front of a computer for much of the day (all those posts!) I'm wondering if

we need to take our wildly differing lifestyle into account when adapting the

Price findings to our own diets. What do you all think? Is it a matter of

eating less calories if you are less active? What does everyone do for

exercise, if anything? Is the " cardio craze " a cousin to the lowfat dogma?

,

What may be more important is not how much pasta you eat but how many miles

a week you run (-: (-:

[Guest guest]

At 09:39 AM 5/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>That would be zero. I do yoga and a lot of walking. This issue actually

>brings up another question I have about Price's work. We talk about what

>the groups he studied ate, but there are other factors that contribute to

>health as well. Like exercise, for example. My assumption is that the

> " healthy primitives " had MUCH more physical activity in their

>lives. Since many of us on this list sit in front of a computer for much

>of the day (all those posts!) I'm wondering if we need to take our wildly

>differing lifestyle into account when adapting the Price findings to our

>own diets. What do you all think? Is it a matter of eating less calories

>if you are less active? What does everyone do for exercise, if

>anything? Is the " cardio craze " a cousin to the lowfat dogma?

>

>

I can vouch that it's NOT just a craze. Not that I DO it as much as I

should, but working out with weights makes an AMAZING difference in your

life (mental outlook, energy, feeling of well being) as does a bit of

cardio. Yoga is great too. And I agree -- those " healthy primatives " were

not sitting in front of a CRT! They were also outside in the fresh air a

lot: in the Philippines some of the houses never did have walls -- they'd

do all their cooking etc. in big open air rooms (like a big picnic shelter).

But Price may not have noticed -- at the time he was writing, he was

probably doing a lot of physical labor himself, those were the days when

everyone walked a lot more! He probably had to carry his own pack a lot too.

>

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

Reminds me, has anyone been watching PBS's version of reality TV? They have

a show called Frontier House. Several families are living 1893 frontier

style lives. All the men in particular became extremely lean and skinny.

Once they got their act together, they were eating meat, fat, eggs, raw

milk, veggies, etc. Combined with the heavy labor they lost a considerable

amount of weight.

Carmen

<<<< That would be zero. I do yoga and a lot of walking. This issue

actually brings up another question I have about Price's work. We talk

about what the groups he studied ate, but there are other factors that

contribute to health as well. Like exercise, for example. My assumption is

that the " healthy primitives " had MUCH more physical activity in their

lives. Since many of us on this list sit in front of a computer for much of

the day (all those posts!) I'm wondering if we need to take our wildly

differing lifestyle into account when adapting the Price findings to our own

diets. What do you all think? Is it a matter of eating less calories if

you are less active? What does everyone do for exercise, if anything? Is

the " cardio craze " a cousin to the lowfat dogma?

>>>

[Guest guest]

I just saw it for the first time last night... you can read about online at

pbs.org

Grace,

a Augustine

I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright.

I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more.

I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive.

I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger.

I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.

I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.

I wish you enough ''Hello's " to get you through the final goodbye.

--anonymous

----- Original Message -----

From: Carmen

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:34 PM

Subject: RE: Price and exercise

Reminds me, has anyone been watching PBS's version of reality TV? They have

a show called Frontier House. Several families are living 1893 frontier

style lives. All the men in particular became extremely lean and skinny.

Once they got their act together, they were eating meat, fat, eggs, raw

milk, veggies, etc. Combined with the heavy labor they lost a considerable

amount of weight.

Carmen

<<<< That would be zero. I do yoga and a lot of walking. This issue

actually brings up another question I have about Price's work. We talk

about what the groups he studied ate, but there are other factors that

contribute to health as well. Like exercise, for example. My assumption is

that the " healthy primitives " had MUCH more physical activity in their

lives. Since many of us on this list sit in front of a computer for much of

the day (all those posts!) I'm wondering if we need to take our wildly

differing lifestyle into account when adapting the Price findings to our own

diets. What do you all think? Is it a matter of eating less calories if

you are less active? What does everyone do for exercise, if anything? Is

the " cardio craze " a cousin to the lowfat dogma?

>>>

[Guest guest]

I saw it from just coincidentally while visiting a friend. I am

amazed they got by with letting these people eat raw dairy products

without some industry or agendy stepping in and protesting loudly.

Maybe they will get the protests later. The men in particular did

lose weight. So would anyone who was not eating sugar as much as the

people in the U.S. do, exercise or not. I wonder if these men could

have survived the ordeal on " regular " food. I personally think the

change in food saved them.

/anne

> Reminds me, has anyone been watching PBS's version of reality TV?

They have

> a show called Frontier House. Several families are living 1893

frontier

> style lives. All the men in particular became extremely lean and

skinny.

> Once they got their act together, they were eating meat, fat, eggs,

raw

> milk, veggies, etc. Combined with the heavy labor they lost a

considerable

> amount of weight.

> Carmen

>

>

>

> <<<< That would be zero. I do yoga and a lot of walking. This

issue

> actually brings up another question I have about Price's work. We

talk

> about what the groups he studied ate, but there are other factors

that

> contribute to health as well. Like exercise, for example. My

assumption is

> that the " healthy primitives " had MUCH more physical activity in

their

> lives. Since many of us on this list sit in front of a computer

for much of

> the day (all those posts!) I'm wondering if we need to take our

wildly

> differing lifestyle into account when adapting the Price findings

to our own

> diets. What do you all think? Is it a matter of eating less

calories if

> you are less active? What does everyone do for exercise, if

anything? Is

> the " cardio craze " a cousin to the lowfat dogma?

>

> >>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>>>This issue actually brings up another question I have about Price's

work. We talk about what the groups he studied ate, but there are other

factors that contribute to health as well. Like exercise, for example. My

assumption is that the " healthy primitives " had MUCH more physical activity

in their lives. Since many of us on this list sit in front of a computer

for much of the day (all those posts!) I'm wondering if we need to take our

wildly differing lifestyle into account when adapting the Price findings to

our own diets. What do you all think?

***I think " yes " we do. Here's a thought (not mine - but that of a dog

breeder i know), breathing is alkalizing. I'm not well versed in pH issues,

but wonder if we sedentary types need to adjust something in the diet to

make up for the lack of alkalizing breathing we do? A typical NT/WAPish diet

would be pretty acidifying i would think with all the meat (especially raw)

eggs, fish(?) and some grains such as oatmeal. But such a diet may have been

balanced by the activity level (and subsequent alkalizing breathing) of the

folks WAP studied.

Also, I totally agree that good health is based on more than just good

nutrition, but good nutrition is a MAJOR factor - just not the *only*

factor.

Suze Fisher

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 01 May 2002 22:56:08 -0000, you wrote:

>The men in particular did

>lose weight. So would anyone who was not eating sugar as much as the

>people in the U.S. do, exercise or not. I wonder if these men could

>have survived the ordeal on " regular " food. I personally think the

>change in food saved them.

>/anne

The weight issue does resolve itself, but the story as we are shown it

makes it seem as if canned goods, and store bought foods, saved the

family, yet, the chickens finally started laying, they had the cow and

after a period of time, fresh vegetables, enough to warrant a root

cellar.

i had the very same thought about the unprocessed part of the diet

being what made them healthy enough to do the hard work.

i was also amazed at how in just a very short period of time they

started to look like 19th century frontier people, all because of the

weight loss. I had always wondered why old photos had people with

that particular look about them, The men all got that way, it appears

to be a mix of hard, hard work, exposure, and a fairly healthy diet.

Mike