Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 So I am realizing that anxiety attacks are not a new phenomenon in my life, it's just that I am only now realizing what they are, how they are affecting me, and how they affect my actions. I realize that I may have learned this anxiety reaction from nada. I mean I definitely have anxiety in relationship to dealing with her, but this is anxiety that I think is learned from her, watching her when I was young. I'm trying to get over a panic attack right now, and I'm okay, getting through work, just trying to breathe deeply and convince myself that this is not a life or death situation here. So, here's the situation: I have this domain, and I haven't checked email at the domain for a while. I tried to check it and realized I had forgotten the password. To reset it I will have to contact the domain adminstrator. No big deal, but I probably won't be able to get into the account for a few days. But for some reason, I am obsessing and compulsively trying all these different passwords (that aren't working--the password is there in the back of my head, I can almost touch it). And starting to panic, literally. Breathing hard, etc., and all of a sudden, everything on my desk feels like an emergency and I feel like the world is going to end, and as the attack starts to go full force I realize what's happening, and I start breathing deeply and telling myself that this is small beans, no big deal. Which it is such a small deal, really. And academically I get it so I'm fighting the physical response and doing okay. But I think when I was in my early twenties (I haven't had an attack like this--not caused by direct interaction with nada--in a long time) and a reaction like this would happen, I would go confront whomever I thought was the cause of my panic and stress and ream them a new one. So is that some learned response to anxiety that I learned from nada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 , First, (((((hugs)))). This is my own theory based on my own experience. I have a diagnosis of GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). There are times when under great distress (primarily when my character or person is under attack) that I do have panic attacks. My own theory is that as a child I knew things weren't quite right but was always told I wasn't seeing things correctly, that I was wrong, everything was normal and I was the abnormal one. As you can imagine, this created a lot of stress. So, to cope, I began ignoring stressful thoughts in that I will not acknowledge them. So, they buzz right on by my consciousness and generate the anxiety. If left unchecked, and if more stressful thoughts are generated, my system goes through an " overload " process. Where suddenly everything sets off the adrenaline and I've lost control. My panic attacks come in waves. If I'm not careful, the first one that hits will cause a loss of consciousness for a few seconds. The second and third wave will be very uncomfortable but I wont suffer LOC (loss of consciousness). It sucks so much and makes me feel so defective...but that's bad because that adds to the stress. So, yes, my parents put those thought responses into me but I'm in charge now and can disengage from the anxiety. I have had to learn to be incredibly watchful for negative thoughts inside my head and pluck them out to rationally address. If I view any of those thoughts associated with the lies nada planted into my thoughts, I dismiss them by turning it around. I will say to the voice inside my head, " you lie and this is not what it seems. " I will then start with positive affirmations, silver lining seeking thoughts and quickly inventorying the things I have the power to change and plan to change them one step at a time or accepting the things that are out of my control and realizing I need not borrow trouble by worrying about assumptions of impending doom when I cannot validate with 100% certainty that the assumptions are facts. I have had to learn to quickly deconstruct my thoughts and reconstruct them in a hurry. To do that, I have to temporarily remove myself from the situation. I was in a meeting with my boss and I felt like he was attacking me much like nada would. Involuntarily, the tears and shaking started and I couldn't stop it. I just looked at him and said, " You'll have to excuse me for a few moments, I'll be right back. " I went to the ladies room, acknowledged the stress - realized that his line of questioning was about his own stress and had nothing at all to do with me. I calmed myself, avoided the panic attack and went back in to finish my meeting. Seeing the state he unwittingly drove me to caused him to change his tactic with me and the meeting went just fine. So, I can't help when it strikes too much but I can control my reactions by disengaging from whatever activity is generating too intense of a stream of anxiety for me. I've suffered so much anxiety from nadas attacks that my anxiety is now generalized and I suffer it often. I have to take care of my disorder, be patient with myself and learn ways to seek complete peace. I take walking brakes in the middle of the day to be by myself. I meditate at night to clear all thoughts and start purposely thinking loving thoughts about me. I will talk calmly, soothingly and lovingly to myself during such moments and I am able to reduce the stress. I've also had to learn to ask for help with some tasks that are overwhelming. So, thinking positive helps. Remove yourself from stressful situations to collect yourself. Take deep cleansing breaths to help calm yourself and disengage from the thoughts. It's possible that some negative thoughts are running rampant unnoticed by you consciously and they are generating frustrating thoughts. You can retrain your mind to work a little differently but it takes time and practice. If that doesn't help, talk to your MD about pharmaceutical options until you can gain some positive ground in working through the anxiety on your own. I do have xanax in case of emergencies where I just cannot shut it off. It's great. It works and I use it sparingly because I fear addiction since my mom, dad and brother all were addicted to substances. Hang in there...nada may have contributed to the anxiety problem but you can learn to regain control, reprogram your thoughts and your stress response and learn to live with it in a positive way. I have not had a panic attack in 3 years. Even when nada got my number by accident a couple of months ago, the PTSD response kicked in hard core at first and for a week, I didn't feel safe. But, I did not have one panic attack. You can master it. Sending you strength and joy dear ! Jaie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Jaie, I wrote that post while I was at work. Then that night I had two more anxiety attacks, one was a full on panic attack that actually started while I was asleep. I woke up in a full panic. Then this morning, the stress of working with some completely incompetent and lazy individuals brought on another anxiety attack. So I decided I needed to stay home from work and just be in a stress free environment. I emailed my boss and just told her the truth. She is aware of everything that happened at Christmas and saw me have the panic attack at work when nada called. I have explained to her that I am seeking help and that I understand that it puts strain on the team when I'm not at my best. I just feel so bad to be like, I need to take a " sick " day because I'm feeling so much anxiety. But I also feel depression. Like it's a double-edged sword that's slicing away at me. This is going to be my first thing to talk about with T tomorrow. First on a long list. > > , > > First, (((((hugs)))). This is my own theory based on my own experience. I have a diagnosis of GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). There are times when under great distress (primarily when my character or person is under attack) that I do have panic attacks. My own theory is that as a child I knew things weren't quite right but was always told I wasn't seeing things correctly, that I was wrong, everything was normal and I was the abnormal one. As you can imagine, this created a lot of stress. So, to cope, I began ignoring stressful thoughts in that I will not acknowledge them. So, they buzz right on by my consciousness and generate the anxiety. If left unchecked, and if more stressful thoughts are generated, my system goes through an " overload " process. Where suddenly everything sets off the adrenaline and I've lost control. My panic attacks come in waves. If I'm not careful, the first one that hits will cause a loss of consciousness for a few seconds. The second and third wave will be very uncomfortable but I wont suffer LOC (loss of consciousness). It sucks so much and makes me feel so defective...but that's bad because that adds to the stress. > > So, yes, my parents put those thought responses into me but I'm in charge now and can disengage from the anxiety. I have had to learn to be incredibly watchful for negative thoughts inside my head and pluck them out to rationally address. If I view any of those thoughts associated with the lies nada planted into my thoughts, I dismiss them by turning it around. I will say to the voice inside my head, " you lie and this is not what it seems. " I will then start with positive affirmations, silver lining seeking thoughts and quickly inventorying the things I have the power to change and plan to change them one step at a time or accepting the things that are out of my control and realizing I need not borrow trouble by worrying about assumptions of impending doom when I cannot validate with 100% certainty that the assumptions are facts. I have had to learn to quickly deconstruct my thoughts and reconstruct them in a hurry. To do that, I have to temporarily remove myself from the situation. I was in a meeting with my boss and I felt like he was attacking me much like nada would. Involuntarily, the tears and shaking started and I couldn't stop it. I just looked at him and said, " You'll have to excuse me for a few moments, I'll be right back. " I went to the ladies room, acknowledged the stress - realized that his line of questioning was about his own stress and had nothing at all to do with me. I calmed myself, avoided the panic attack and went back in to finish my meeting. Seeing the state he unwittingly drove me to caused him to change his tactic with me and the meeting went just fine. > > So, I can't help when it strikes too much but I can control my reactions by disengaging from whatever activity is generating too intense of a stream of anxiety for me. I've suffered so much anxiety from nadas attacks that my anxiety is now generalized and I suffer it often. I have to take care of my disorder, be patient with myself and learn ways to seek complete peace. I take walking brakes in the middle of the day to be by myself. I meditate at night to clear all thoughts and start purposely thinking loving thoughts about me. I will talk calmly, soothingly and lovingly to myself during such moments and I am able to reduce the stress. I've also had to learn to ask for help with some tasks that are overwhelming. > > So, thinking positive helps. Remove yourself from stressful situations to collect yourself. Take deep cleansing breaths to help calm yourself and disengage from the thoughts. It's possible that some negative thoughts are running rampant unnoticed by you consciously and they are generating frustrating thoughts. You can retrain your mind to work a little differently but it takes time and practice. If that doesn't help, talk to your MD about pharmaceutical options until you can gain some positive ground in working through the anxiety on your own. I do have xanax in case of emergencies where I just cannot shut it off. It's great. It works and I use it sparingly because I fear addiction since my mom, dad and brother all were addicted to substances. > > Hang in there...nada may have contributed to the anxiety problem but you can learn to regain control, reprogram your thoughts and your stress response and learn to live with it in a positive way. I have not had a panic attack in 3 years. Even when nada got my number by accident a couple of months ago, the PTSD response kicked in hard core at first and for a week, I didn't feel safe. But, I did not have one panic attack. You can master it. > > Sending you strength and joy dear ! > > Jaie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm so glad you are talking to your T about this. That can definitely help. I only had one panic attack wake me from sleeping and I was so frustrated. It was like, " What! I can't even escape this stress in my sleep?! WTH! " I was so mad. But, I also was going through a nasty divorce and there really was no place to escape the stress. LOL I hope that you get some relief soon. Just know that you will find something that will work for you. Have hope, be brave and I hope it happens very soon! Jaie > > > > , > > > > First, (((((hugs)))). This is my own theory based on my own experience. I have a diagnosis of GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). There are times when under great distress (primarily when my character or person is under attack) that I do have panic attacks. My own theory is that as a child I knew things weren't quite right but was always told I wasn't seeing things correctly, that I was wrong, everything was normal and I was the abnormal one. As you can imagine, this created a lot of stress. So, to cope, I began ignoring stressful thoughts in that I will not acknowledge them. So, they buzz right on by my consciousness and generate the anxiety. If left unchecked, and if more stressful thoughts are generated, my system goes through an " overload " process. Where suddenly everything sets off the adrenaline and I've lost control. My panic attacks come in waves. If I'm not careful, the first one that hits will cause a loss of consciousness for a few seconds. The second and third wave will be very uncomfortable but I wont suffer LOC (loss of consciousness). It sucks so much and makes me feel so defective...but that's bad because that adds to the stress. > > > > So, yes, my parents put those thought responses into me but I'm in charge now and can disengage from the anxiety. I have had to learn to be incredibly watchful for negative thoughts inside my head and pluck them out to rationally address. If I view any of those thoughts associated with the lies nada planted into my thoughts, I dismiss them by turning it around. I will say to the voice inside my head, " you lie and this is not what it seems. " I will then start with positive affirmations, silver lining seeking thoughts and quickly inventorying the things I have the power to change and plan to change them one step at a time or accepting the things that are out of my control and realizing I need not borrow trouble by worrying about assumptions of impending doom when I cannot validate with 100% certainty that the assumptions are facts. I have had to learn to quickly deconstruct my thoughts and reconstruct them in a hurry. To do that, I have to temporarily remove myself from the situation. I was in a meeting with my boss and I felt like he was attacking me much like nada would. Involuntarily, the tears and shaking started and I couldn't stop it. I just looked at him and said, " You'll have to excuse me for a few moments, I'll be right back. " I went to the ladies room, acknowledged the stress - realized that his line of questioning was about his own stress and had nothing at all to do with me. I calmed myself, avoided the panic attack and went back in to finish my meeting. Seeing the state he unwittingly drove me to caused him to change his tactic with me and the meeting went just fine. > > > > So, I can't help when it strikes too much but I can control my reactions by disengaging from whatever activity is generating too intense of a stream of anxiety for me. I've suffered so much anxiety from nadas attacks that my anxiety is now generalized and I suffer it often. I have to take care of my disorder, be patient with myself and learn ways to seek complete peace. I take walking brakes in the middle of the day to be by myself. I meditate at night to clear all thoughts and start purposely thinking loving thoughts about me. I will talk calmly, soothingly and lovingly to myself during such moments and I am able to reduce the stress. I've also had to learn to ask for help with some tasks that are overwhelming. > > > > So, thinking positive helps. Remove yourself from stressful situations to collect yourself. Take deep cleansing breaths to help calm yourself and disengage from the thoughts. It's possible that some negative thoughts are running rampant unnoticed by you consciously and they are generating frustrating thoughts. You can retrain your mind to work a little differently but it takes time and practice. If that doesn't help, talk to your MD about pharmaceutical options until you can gain some positive ground in working through the anxiety on your own. I do have xanax in case of emergencies where I just cannot shut it off. It's great. It works and I use it sparingly because I fear addiction since my mom, dad and brother all were addicted to substances. > > > > Hang in there...nada may have contributed to the anxiety problem but you can learn to regain control, reprogram your thoughts and your stress response and learn to live with it in a positive way. I have not had a panic attack in 3 years. Even when nada got my number by accident a couple of months ago, the PTSD response kicked in hard core at first and for a week, I didn't feel safe. But, I did not have one panic attack. You can master it. > > > > Sending you strength and joy dear ! > > > > Jaie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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