Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings - who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but back in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. They are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, he's from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the road. The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are extremly important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even seem to exist. This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of child abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone is picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always have something weird in the closet. My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets were pretty freaking weird too. Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description of my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment while in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the culture. My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her (which I could). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Wow. I'm not terribly surprised by this, nor by your T's description of your home town area. I've never read the book, but reminds me of the ina opening quote, " All happy families are alike; unhappy families are unhappy each in their own way. " Okay, I probably botched it and I'm too lazy to look it up. But it's very true--all the allegedly happy families are uniformly " perfect " while they have their own horrendous skeletons in the closet. My family's no different. Fada was so concerned about looking perfect that he refused to get antidepressants when diagnosed with depression. And he would always hold the family image over our heads as a way to shame us into being what he wanted us to be. Any outward behavior has an effect on Fada's image as the perfect homeschooling father--something he was careful about in his book. We were afraid that if we ever spoke out about it, it would damage his credibility. Agh. Excuse me while I try to distract myself from the urge to take a box of his book and throw it at him. Bastard. Thanks for sharing, by the way, Girlscout. I hope that the three girls get the healing they need from this case against their " alleged " fada. Holly On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Girlscout Cowboy < girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote: > > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings - > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but back > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. They > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, > he's > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the road. > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are extremly > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > seem to exist. > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of child > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone is > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always have > something weird in the closet. > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets > were pretty freaking weird too. > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description of > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment > while > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the > culture. > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her > (which > I could). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Me too, healing for the girls and castration for the fada. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Holly Byers wrote: > Wow. I'm not terribly surprised by this, nor by your T's description of > your > home town area. I've never read the book, but reminds me of the > ina opening quote, " All happy families are alike; unhappy families are > unhappy each in their own way. " > > Okay, I probably botched it and I'm too lazy to look it up. But it's very > true--all the allegedly happy families are uniformly " perfect " while they > have their own horrendous skeletons in the closet. My family's no > different. > Fada was so concerned about looking perfect that he refused to get > antidepressants when diagnosed with depression. And he would always hold > the > family image over our heads as a way to shame us into being what he wanted > us to be. Any outward behavior has an effect on Fada's image as the perfect > homeschooling father--something he was careful about in his book. We were > afraid that if we ever spoke out about it, it would damage his credibility. > > Agh. Excuse me while I try to distract myself from the urge to take a box > of > his book and throw it at him. Bastard. > > Thanks for sharing, by the way, Girlscout. I hope that the three girls get > the healing they need from this case against their " alleged " fada. > > Holly > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Girlscout Cowboy < > girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote: > > > > > > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings > - > > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but > back > > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. > They > > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, > > he's > > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the > road. > > > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are > extremly > > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > > seem to exist. > > > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of > child > > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone > is > > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their > > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > > > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always > have > > something weird in the closet. > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets > > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description > of > > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment > > while > > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the > > culture. > > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her > > (which > > I could). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Wouldn't that be awesome--every convicted male child sexual abuser automatically gets castrated, LOL. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Girlscout Cowboy < girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote: > > > Me too, healing for the girls and castration for the fada. > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Holly Byers > wrote: > > > > Wow. I'm not terribly surprised by this, nor by your T's description of > > your > > home town area. I've never read the book, but reminds me of the > > ina opening quote, " All happy families are alike; unhappy families > are > > unhappy each in their own way. " > > > > Okay, I probably botched it and I'm too lazy to look it up. But it's very > > true--all the allegedly happy families are uniformly " perfect " while they > > have their own horrendous skeletons in the closet. My family's no > > different. > > Fada was so concerned about looking perfect that he refused to get > > antidepressants when diagnosed with depression. And he would always hold > > the > > family image over our heads as a way to shame us into being what he > wanted > > us to be. Any outward behavior has an effect on Fada's image as the > perfect > > homeschooling father--something he was careful about in his book. We were > > afraid that if we ever spoke out about it, it would damage his > credibility. > > > > Agh. Excuse me while I try to distract myself from the urge to take a box > > of > > his book and throw it at him. Bastard. > > > > Thanks for sharing, by the way, Girlscout. I hope that the three girls > get > > the healing they need from this case against their " alleged " fada. > > > > Holly > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Girlscout Cowboy < > > girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > > > > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all > siblings > > - > > > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought > me > > > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but > > back > > > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one > high > > > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. > > They > > > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > > > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being > their > > > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, > > > he's > > > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger > got > > > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the > > road. > > > > > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are > > extremly > > > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't > even > > > seem to exist. > > > > > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of > > child > > > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as > everyone > > is > > > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in > their > > > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > > > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > > > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > > > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always > > have > > > something weird in the closet. > > > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the > closets > > > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description > > of > > > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment > > > while > > > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the > > > culture. > > > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her > > > (which > > > I could). > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Unfortunately child abuse, neglect, exploitation, ritualized abuse, emotional abuse, and sexual abuse are not rare or isolated to a single country, culture, region, religion, or group of people. But also, unfortunately, there does appear to be many instances of all kinds of child abuse and neglect and even child deaths associated with various established religions and offshoot cults. Here is the link to a website that collects news stories about such things, called Fact net; its about Discussion, Resources and Support for Recovery from the Abusive Practices of Religions and Cults: http://www.factnet.org/CIF/child_abuse.htm The 3 main topics at that link are: 1. The Life of a Child in a Cult or Sect 2. Physical Child Abuse associated with Cults and Sects 3. Child deaths associated with Cults and Sects To me, the descriptions of how emotional, physical or sexual child abuse and neglect can become just another accepted or tolerated part of a particular religious group or cult is eerily, uncannily like how a dysfunctional nuclear family headed by a personality-disordered, mentally ill parent operates. Basically, if the leader of the group, cult, or family is mentally ill, then the group, cult, sect or family is subjected to the rules and dictates and whims of a mentally-ill person RE child-rearing as well as everything else. The " followers " are enmeshed and enabling; there is no democratic system of checks and balances. When that is the case, then its a cult, sect, group or family unit based on dysfunction. -Annie > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings - > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but back > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. They > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, he's > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the road. > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are extremly > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > seem to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Cowboy, although I am much older than you, I actually may have lived in your home town for a while. However, I do not know the Brown Family. I moved away in the early 90's. Hey, I loved the skiing and ice-skating though. Those Wasatch Mts. are gorgeous! Annie > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings - > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but back > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. They > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, he's > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the road. > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are extremly > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > seem to exist. > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of child > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone is > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always have > something weird in the closet. > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description of > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment while > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the culture. > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her (which > I could). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 That wouldn't help. You'd need to cut off their hands and arms as well!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > > > > > > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all > > siblings > > > - > > > > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought > > me > > > > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but > > > back > > > > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one > > high > > > > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. > > > They > > > > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > > > > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being > > their > > > > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, > > > > he's > > > > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger > > got > > > > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the > > > road. > > > > > > > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are > > > extremly > > > > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't > > even > > > > seem to exist. > > > > > > > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of > > > child > > > > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as > > everyone > > > is > > > > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in > > their > > > > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > > > > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > > > > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > > > > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always > > > have > > > > something weird in the closet. > > > > > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the > > closets > > > > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description > > > of > > > > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment > > > > while > > > > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the > > > > culture. > > > > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her > > > > (which > > > > I could). > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks Annie the original. this is great info. And CA Annie - yes it is one of the most beautiful places on earth. The culture is a bit sick though. I dreamed last night that I bought a house in NY City and moved away. The catch is that my new house didn't have a bathroom and we had to pee on the bed! Ha ha. I actually did move away from my parents to the big city about an hour's drive away. They hate the city and think it is scary and dangerous - while I think that their community is evil and sick and dangerous - so it works, we stay away from each other. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:22 AM, CA Annie wrote: > > > Cowboy, although I am much older than you, I actually may have lived in > your home town for a while. However, I do not know the Brown Family. I moved > away in the early 90's. Hey, I loved the skiing and ice-skating though. > Those Wasatch Mts. are gorgeous! > Annie > > > > > > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings > - > > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but > back > > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. > They > > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, > he's > > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the > road. > > > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are > extremly > > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > > seem to exist. > > > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of > child > > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone > is > > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their > > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > > > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always > have > > something weird in the closet. > > > > > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets > > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description > of > > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment > while > > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the > culture. > > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her > (which > > I could). > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 You know, I have to say, whenever I meet families/people like this, who look too good to be true, I start to try to guess what their weakness/skeleton is. It's a fault of mine, trying to find bad in people who seem SOOOO happy. I really don't like it about myself. However....I usually can guess when it's genuine happiness or a fake front. This is such a sad, sad story. Good for the daughters for thinking of other potential victims. > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings - > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but back > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. They > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, he's > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the road. > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are extremly > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > seem to exist. > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of child > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone is > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always have > something weird in the closet. > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description of > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment while > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the culture. > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her (which > I could). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 You are so right, Fiona. So I just saw in the paper that the dad pled guilty today. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH > > > You know, I have to say, whenever I meet families/people like this, who > look too good to be true, I start to try to guess what their > weakness/skeleton is. It's a fault of mine, trying to find bad in people who > seem SOOOO happy. I really don't like it about myself. > > However....I usually can guess when it's genuine happiness or a fake front. > > > This is such a sad, sad story. Good for the daughters for thinking of other > potential victims. > > > > > > At risk of outing my real identity, I have to share this. > > > > There is a group of extremely talented performing artists - all siblings > - > > who are from a town about 3 miles north of where nada and fada brought me > > up. This town (Alpine) is a whole lot richer than where I am from, but > back > > in the day the kids from Alpine as well as my town all fed into one high > > school. The kids in this article are just a few years younger than me. > They > > are from my homeland, my culture, my people - and their father sexually > > abused them ( " allegedly " ), while putting on the appearance of being their > > manager and biggest advocate. Do you know who Achuletta is? Yeah, > he's > > from a town about 7 miles south. Same kinda deal, only his dad/manger got > > busted for soliciting prostitution. And the Osmonds were just up the > road. > > > > The community I am from is very very ill. External appearances are > extremly > > important. Real life genuine love, trust, respect and function don't even > > seem to exist. > > > > This story makes me feel like barfing. I know first hand what kind of > child > > abuse really goes on behind closed doors. Meanwhile, as long as everyone > is > > picture perfect and at church on Sunday, and doesn't have coffee in their > > home, everyone thinks things are just grand. Performing arts are highly > > valued. However, individuality and individual children are not. My own > > therapist says it is the land of the " disposable child. " > > > > > > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51257838-76/brown-browns-abuse-child.html.csp > > > > > > > > And I also just want to say " I told you so " to someone. These blonde, > > perfect, idealize, harp or piano playing families always always always > have > > something weird in the closet. > > > > > > > > My own family did NOT look perfect (hoarders rarely do), but the closets > > were pretty freaking weird too. > > > > > > > > Ugh I'm shivering this is so gross and yet such an accurate description > of > > my uh what's that called - the chart of your family and their issues? > > > > > > > > Believe it or not, I actually taught piano lessons in this environment > while > > in High School. Serious, performing arts are a gigantic part of the > culture. > > My nada used to abuse me if she thought I could do it better than her > (which > > I could). > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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