'Counselor' with BPD himself ripped me! See below.

February 16, 2011

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001872766999#!/profile.php?id=10000187\

2766999

This guy( Bogdewic) is a former BPD'er with a website that helps other

BPD'ers regain control of their life. www.bpdmiraclecure.com

He's got a minor in psychology.

I messaged him on facebook my situation with my Fada. He asked me if he has a

proper diagnosis. I said no. Well, that was no good for him and that to stop

controlling my dad, and to get my head screwed on straight and to never contact

him(the counselor) again....jeeze. I was even going to buy all of his materials

if needed. I thought this guy was legit. I can't believe this guy is starting

a BPD assistance business...the blind leading the blind...is there no end to the

abuse we take? Apparently he is still a little BPD. I feel like such a

douchebag when I try to reach out and ask for help. Here is our conversation on

facebook below...

Heathmoore February 16 at 5:23pm

Hi, I found your website about BPD and I think you're great!. I'm dealing with

my Dad who has BPD and it's pretty bad. I'd like your advice on how to convince

him to get DBT. He pretty much wants me dead, he obsesses about it and hates me

unbelievably intensely. His BPD altered priorites have caused him to have a

stroke and end up paralyzed. I've already accused him of BPD and I know it's

true...what the heck do I do now?

Any response will be appreciated. Thankyou very much for your time. -

Bogdewic February 16 at 8:02pm Report

Was your father properly diagnosed, or was this your assesment that he had BPD?

Heathmoore February 16 at 11:34pm

He has had no proper diagnosis. Just no way that will ever happen. I'm 33yrs old

and live with him because of his extensive sabotaging behavior. My Dad is my

best friend and I want to help him but his entire family, friends, coworkers,

neighbors have gone no contact. I'm it. I don't want to be a burden to you. What

products and services do you sell that can get my Dad to DBT. That's all I want.

Bogdewic February 16 at 11:49pm Report

I will not engage in this kind of activity. In order for my services to work

foir someone with BPD, they have to have a proper diagnosis. My material will

only work for someone with BPD.

I only say this because there are other personality disorders that mimic BPD but

have so many differences. Like for instance, Narsasistic Personality Disorder,

or AntiSocial Personality Disorder just to name two. How will you ever know if

he does or doesn't have BPD and not some other personality disorder that mimics

BPD.

I would encourage you to stop addidng to the destructive behavior that is

causing your father this much grief. If he's your best friend, then act like it.

Controlling people to do what you want them to do will not benefit someone in

anyway.

I'm sorry, but until you get your head screwed on straight, please do not

contact me anymore, as I find your intent to control very insulting and

inhibiting to your father.

(I lose it here)

Heathmoore February 17 at 1:50am

Jesus! I thought you help people deal with out of control BPD'ers. The man is

violent and threatens violence for christ's sake! Oh, I guess I should just run

away and live in a fucking homeless shelter....you asshole! Good luck expanding

your BPD business!

February 17, 2011

That guy was pretty rude to you, I agree! I can't imagine he's going to get

much business if that's the way he treats potential clients/customers.

He said in a rude way, though, what we say here a lot, which is that you can't

make someone else change. Telling someone they have bpd doesn't work, and

giving someone an ultimatum doesn't work.

All you can do is change the way you, yourself, respond to someone who is being

abusive to you. You can set up boundaries *for yourself* and leave the room/the

house or hang up the phone if your person with bpd is acting out towards you

with emotional abuse.

Since your circumstances are such that you have no options but to live with your

abusive pd father, your situation is much more complicated than most adult

children of bpd parents. I can only say that I agree with you, and you need to

continue searching for a therapist, but search for one who can help you as the

adult child of a personality-disordered parent learn how to set realistic

boundaries for yourself so that you can live with your pd parent and reduce the

stress level as much as possible.

-Annie/anuria

>

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001872766999#!/profile.php?id=10000187\

2766999

>

> This guy( Bogdewic) is a former BPD'er with a website that helps other

BPD'ers regain control of their life. www.bpdmiraclecure.com

> He's got a minor in psychology.

>

> I messaged him on facebook my situation with my Fada. He asked me if he has a

proper diagnosis. I said no. Well, that was no good for him and that to stop

controlling my dad, and to get my head screwed on straight and to never contact

him(the counselor) again....jeeze. I was even going to buy all of his materials

if needed. I thought this guy was legit. I can't believe this guy is starting

a BPD assistance business...the blind leading the blind...is there no end to the

abuse we take? Apparently he is still a little BPD. I feel like such a

douchebag when I try to reach out and ask for help. Here is our conversation on

facebook below...

February 17, 2011

Hey thanks for the reassurance anuria67854. Sometimes I don't get a response on

this blog. It's great to just know I was right to say 'what the heck'. Anyways

I continued to discuss with him after I chastised him(felt good) and he might

have some good pointers for me to try to convince my fada to get help. No idea

what will happen but I'm gonna listen to him for now. Sometimes I don't even

get a response to my blogs on here, I always wanted to start a real time chat so

I don't have to wait a whole day for responses. I kinda freak out during the

delay. I need a whole lotta reassurance I'm not nuts. You guys are it for me.

> >

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001872766999#!/profile.php?id=10000187\

2766999

> >

> > This guy( Bogdewic) is a former BPD'er with a website that helps other

BPD'ers regain control of their life. www.bpdmiraclecure.com

> > He's got a minor in psychology.

> >

> > I messaged him on facebook my situation with my Fada. He asked me if he has

a proper diagnosis. I said no. Well, that was no good for him and that to stop

controlling my dad, and to get my head screwed on straight and to never contact

him(the counselor) again....jeeze. I was even going to buy all of his materials

if needed. I thought this guy was legit. I can't believe this guy is starting

a BPD assistance business...the blind leading the blind...is there no end to the

abuse we take? Apparently he is still a little BPD. I feel like such a

douchebag when I try to reach out and ask for help. Here is our conversation on

facebook below...

>

February 17, 2011

I have to admit, I don't entirely understand the content of this interaction you

had with this man, but he certainly did appear to be very rude. I have often

wondered how many therapists out there have BPD. I happened to meet one once who

was HORRIBLE and my current therapist thinks she definitely was, based on what i

told her.

'Counselor' with BPD himself ripped me! See below.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001872766999#!/profile.php?id=10000187\

2766999

This guy( Bogdewic) is a former BPD'er with a website that helps other

BPD'ers regain control of their life. www.bpdmiraclecure.com

He's got a minor in psychology.

I messaged him on facebook my situation with my Fada. He asked me if he has a

proper diagnosis. I said no. Well, that was no good for him and that to stop

controlling my dad, and to get my head screwed on straight and to never contact

him(the counselor) again....jeeze. I was even going to buy all of his materials

if needed. I thought this guy was legit. I can't believe this guy is starting a

BPD assistance business...the blind leading the blind...is there no end to the

abuse we take? Apparently he is still a little BPD. I feel like such a douchebag

when I try to reach out and ask for help. Here is our conversation on facebook

below...

Heathmoore February 16 at 5:23pm

Hi, I found your website about BPD and I think you're great!. I'm dealing with

my Dad who has BPD and it's pretty bad. I'd like your advice on how to convince

him to get DBT. He pretty much wants me dead, he obsesses about it and hates me

unbelievably intensely. His BPD altered priorites have caused him to have a

stroke and end up paralyzed. I've already accused him of BPD and I know it's

true...what the heck do I do now?

Any response will be appreciated. Thankyou very much for your time. -

Bogdewic February 16 at 8:02pm Report

Was your father properly diagnosed, or was this your assesment that he had BPD?

Heathmoore February 16 at 11:34pm

He has had no proper diagnosis. Just no way that will ever happen. I'm 33yrs old

and live with him because of his extensive sabotaging behavior. My Dad is my

best friend and I want to help him but his entire family, friends, coworkers,

neighbors have gone no contact. I'm it. I don't want to be a burden to you. What

products and services do you sell that can get my Dad to DBT. That's all I want.

Bogdewic February 16 at 11:49pm Report

I will not engage in this kind of activity. In order for my services to work

foir someone with BPD, they have to have a proper diagnosis. My material will

only work for someone with BPD.

I only say this because there are other personality disorders that mimic BPD but

have so many differences. Like for instance, Narsasistic Personality Disorder,

or AntiSocial Personality Disorder just to name two. How will you ever know if

he does or doesn't have BPD and not some other personality disorder that mimics

BPD.

I would encourage you to stop addidng to the destructive behavior that is

causing your father this much grief. If he's your best friend, then act like it.

Controlling people to do what you want them to do will not benefit someone in

anyway.

I'm sorry, but until you get your head screwed on straight, please do not

contact me anymore, as I find your intent to control very insulting and

inhibiting to your father.

(I lose it here)

Heathmoore February 17 at 1:50am

Jesus! I thought you help people deal with out of control BPD'ers. The man is

violent and threatens violence for christ's sake! Oh, I guess I should just run

away and live in a fucking homeless shelter....you asshole! Good luck expanding

your BPD business!

February 17, 2011

I think his point was relevant but his delivery was totally inappropriate. It's

one thing to say:

" I don't feel comfortable advising you because it's quite possible that your

father has a different personality disorder, as many of them overlap. What I

have learned is very specifically for BPD patients, and I have no idea what the

effect of using it on a different personality disorder will be. Also, as a

sufferer of BPD, I don't feel comfortable advising you on someone who is

undiagnosed. It's my personal preference. However, if you believe your father

can benefit from therapy, here are some possible ideas to get him to consider

the idea... "

In my opinion, he has absolutely every right to set his own standards and

prerequisites for assisting others. But his attitude and accusations toward you

were highly over-reactive and unprofessional. You have to remember, since he

suffered BPD, he probably identifies more with the person suffering from it,

that the family suffering because of the BPD's illness.

Anyhow, I'm sorry you got in the rage path of this guy. I hope you did get some

good advice out of it. Just remember, the only person's actions you can control

are yours. No, you are NOT crazy, you are NOT bad, you are NOT evil. You are

just a loving son who needs a father and instead got a fada. And despite all

that he does to you, you want to help him so he can finally have some happiness

and peace. You are a good son.

February 17, 2011

Holy-moly did you make me feel better. Thankyou very much for your kind words.

Man! recognition is great. Yea, it can be lonely as the sole voice of reason

when the flying monkeys are attacking and therapists are accusatory. Let me

know if I can help you with your BPD'er afldancer.

>

> I think his point was relevant but his delivery was totally inappropriate.

It's one thing to say:

>

> " I don't feel comfortable advising you because it's quite possible that your

father has a different personality disorder, as many of them overlap. What I

have learned is very specifically for BPD patients, and I have no idea what the

effect of using it on a different personality disorder will be. Also, as a

sufferer of BPD, I don't feel comfortable advising you on someone who is

undiagnosed. It's my personal preference. However, if you believe your father

can benefit from therapy, here are some possible ideas to get him to consider

the idea... "

>

> In my opinion, he has absolutely every right to set his own standards and

prerequisites for assisting others. But his attitude and accusations toward you

were highly over-reactive and unprofessional. You have to remember, since he

suffered BPD, he probably identifies more with the person suffering from it,

that the family suffering because of the BPD's illness.

>

> Anyhow, I'm sorry you got in the rage path of this guy. I hope you did get

some good advice out of it. Just remember, the only person's actions you can

control are yours. No, you are NOT crazy, you are NOT bad, you are NOT evil. You

are just a loving son who needs a father and instead got a fada. And despite all

that he does to you, you want to help him so he can finally have some happiness

and peace. You are a good son.

>

February 17, 2011

That's the best thing about this group. We validate each other when no one else

really knows what we are experiencing.

> >

> > I think his point was relevant but his delivery was totally inappropriate.

It's one thing to say:

> >

> > " I don't feel comfortable advising you because it's quite possible that your

father has a different personality disorder, as many of them overlap. What I

have learned is very specifically for BPD patients, and I have no idea what the

effect of using it on a different personality disorder will be. Also, as a

sufferer of BPD, I don't feel comfortable advising you on someone who is

undiagnosed. It's my personal preference. However, if you believe your father

can benefit from therapy, here are some possible ideas to get him to consider

the idea... "

> >

> > In my opinion, he has absolutely every right to set his own standards and

prerequisites for assisting others. But his attitude and accusations toward you

were highly over-reactive and unprofessional. You have to remember, since he

suffered BPD, he probably identifies more with the person suffering from it,

that the family suffering because of the BPD's illness.

> >

> > Anyhow, I'm sorry you got in the rage path of this guy. I hope you did get

some good advice out of it. Just remember, the only person's actions you can

control are yours. No, you are NOT crazy, you are NOT bad, you are NOT evil. You

are just a loving son who needs a father and instead got a fada. And despite all

that he does to you, you want to help him so he can finally have some happiness

and peace. You are a good son.

> >

>

February 17, 2011

I don't know, . After looking through some of his material, I have to say

that it doesn't seem to me as if he's " beat " BPD at all. It looks like he's just

turned it into a business.