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This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into it and

I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the elderly mother

has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed her

daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some horrible

enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this decaying

cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in there for them

to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives of Jackie O' so

they probably thought it was due to their famous connections rather than their

insanity.

To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent life and

get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years. In recent years

I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has put insane pressure on

me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't understand why on earth I'm

such a bad daughter and choose to live so far away when I have no career or man

to justify it anymore. After all in the culture I'm from those are the only

reasons (marginally acceptable at best) to live away from one's needful aging

relatives.

Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this movie?

Did it freak you the hell out?

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Ok, I got through watching it....whew, that was not easy. Along about one hour

in, it is revealed that the one best chance the daughter had to get married the

mother sabotaged within fifteen minutes of the beau being in the house. The

mother actually admits to it and says " I didn't want to be alone. " Wow. Proof

on film. Reminded me of experiences of KO's.

Here's a link to it on Amazon - this is the 1975 documentary, not the later

version with actors:

http://www.amazon.com/Grey-Gardens-Edith-Bouvier-Beale/dp/B00005KHJX/ref=sr_1_1?\

s=dvd & ie=UTF8 & qid=1299057319 & sr=1-1

>

> This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into it

and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the elderly

mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed her

daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some horrible

enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this decaying

cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in there for them

to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives of Jackie O' so

they probably thought it was due to their famous connections rather than their

insanity.

>

> To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent life

and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years. In recent

years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has put insane

pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't understand why on

earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so far away when I have no

career or man to justify it anymore. After all in the culture I'm from those

are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at best) to live away from one's

needful aging relatives.

>

> Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this movie?

Did it freak you the hell out?

>

>

>

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yeah, I saw it. it was filmed in my local area. The scenario was definitely

reminiscent of bpd/N type behavior.

>

>

> Ok, I got through watching it....whew, that was not easy. Along about one

> hour in, it is revealed that the one best chance the daughter had to get

> married the mother sabotaged within fifteen minutes of the beau being in the

> house. The mother actually admits to it and says " I didn't want to be

> alone. " Wow. Proof on film. Reminded me of experiences of KO's.

>

> Here's a link to it on Amazon - this is the 1975 documentary, not the later

> version with actors:

>

>

http://www.amazon.com/Grey-Gardens-Edith-Bouvier-Beale/dp/B00005KHJX/ref=sr_1_1?\

s=dvd & ie=UTF8 & qid=1299057319 & sr=1-1

>

>

>

>

> >

> > This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into

> it and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the elderly

> mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed

> her daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some

> horrible enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this

> decaying cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in there

> for them to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives of

> Jackie O' so they probably thought it was due to their famous connections

> rather than their insanity.

> >

> > To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent

> life and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years. In

> recent years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has put

> insane pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't

> understand why on earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so far

> away when I have no career or man to justify it anymore. After all in the

> culture I'm from those are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at best)

> to live away from one's needful aging relatives.

> >

> > Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this

> movie? Did it freak you the hell out?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Ive seen a little bit of it - couldn't do it. You are badass to see the

whole thing!

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Millicent Kunstler <

millicentkunstler@...> wrote:

> yeah, I saw it. it was filmed in my local area. The scenario was definitely

> reminiscent of bpd/N type behavior.

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:19 AM, climberkayak

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Ok, I got through watching it....whew, that was not easy. Along about one

> > hour in, it is revealed that the one best chance the daughter had to get

> > married the mother sabotaged within fifteen minutes of the beau being in

> the

> > house. The mother actually admits to it and says " I didn't want to be

> > alone. " Wow. Proof on film. Reminded me of experiences of KO's.

> >

> > Here's a link to it on Amazon - this is the 1975 documentary, not the

> later

> > version with actors:

> >

> >

>

http://www.amazon.com/Grey-Gardens-Edith-Bouvier-Beale/dp/B00005KHJX/ref=sr_1_1?\

s=dvd & ie=UTF8 & qid=1299057319 & sr=1-1

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into

> > it and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the

> elderly

> > mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed

> > her daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some

> > horrible enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this

> > decaying cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in

> there

> > for them to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives

> of

> > Jackie O' so they probably thought it was due to their famous connections

> > rather than their insanity.

> > >

> > > To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent

> > life and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years.

> In

> > recent years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has

> put

> > insane pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't

> > understand why on earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so far

> > away when I have no career or man to justify it anymore. After all in the

> > culture I'm from those are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at

> best)

> > to live away from one's needful aging relatives.

> > >

> > > Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this

> > movie? Did it freak you the hell out?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I couldn't watch the whole thing either, 15 minutes' worth was too triggering.

-Annie

> > > >

> > > > This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into

> > > it and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the

> > elderly

> > > mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed

> > > her daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some

> > > horrible enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this

> > > decaying cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in

> > there

> > > for them to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives

> > of

> > > Jackie O' so they probably thought it was due to their famous connections

> > > rather than their insanity.

> > > >

> > > > To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent

> > > life and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years.

> > In

> > > recent years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has

> > put

> > > insane pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't

> > > understand why on earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so far

> > > away when I have no career or man to justify it anymore. After all in the

> > > culture I'm from those are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at

> > best)

> > > to live away from one's needful aging relatives.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this

> > > movie? Did it freak you the hell out?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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I've seen it. My husband rented it thinking it would be a nice movie about

getting older. No, it wasn't nice. It was weird and creepy and disgusting. I

think it won some awards though. Figures.

>

> This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into it

and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the elderly

mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed her

daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some horrible

enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this decaying

cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in there for them

to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives of Jackie O' so

they probably thought it was due to their famous connections rather than their

insanity.

>

> To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent life

and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years. In recent

years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has put insane

pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't understand why on

earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so far away when I have no

career or man to justify it anymore. After all in the culture I'm from those

are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at best) to live away from one's

needful aging relatives.

>

> Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this movie?

Did it freak you the hell out?

>

>

>

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I've seen it. My husband rented it thinking it would be a nice movie about

getting older. No, it wasn't nice. It was weird and creepy and disgusting. I

think it won some awards though. Figures.

>

> This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes into it

and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the elderly

mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has consumed her

daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some horrible

enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in this decaying

cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in there for them

to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives of Jackie O' so

they probably thought it was due to their famous connections rather than their

insanity.

>

> To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent life

and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years. In recent

years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has put insane

pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't understand why on

earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so far away when I have no

career or man to justify it anymore. After all in the culture I'm from those

are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at best) to live away from one's

needful aging relatives.

>

> Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this movie?

Did it freak you the hell out?

>

>

>

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Ditto for me - I could only watch bits and pieces of it. Then, I wished I hadn't

watched ANY of it, because I had a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach for

days afterward.

> > > > >

> > > > > This movie is a documentary on some circle of hell. I'm 46 minutes

into

> > > > it and I'm not sure I can finish watching. It's so obvious that the

> > > elderly

> > > > mother has some kind of controlling personality disorder and has

consumed

> > > > her daughter's life. The daughter seems mentally ill too and in some

> > > > horrible enmeshment with the mother and they are trapped together in

this

> > > > decaying cluttered home. I'm guessing there must be some narcissism in

> > > there

> > > > for them to even allow a documentary to be filmed - they were relatives

> > > of

> > > > Jackie O' so they probably thought it was due to their famous

connections

> > > > rather than their insanity.

> > > > >

> > > > > To me this is the ultimate nightmare to utterly fail at an independent

> > > > life and get sucked down into the abyss with my nada in her final years.

> > > In

> > > > recent years I've had a lot of trouble in my career and my nadaunt has

> > > put

> > > > insane pressure on me to return " home " to do exactly that. She can't

> > > > understand why on earth I'm such a bad daughter and choose to live so

far

> > > > away when I have no career or man to justify it anymore. After all in

the

> > > > culture I'm from those are the only reasons (marginally acceptable at

> > > best)

> > > > to live away from one's needful aging relatives.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry about the ranting...late night and all. Anyone else watch this

> > > > movie? Did it freak you the hell out?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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LOL Girlscout....I don't feel badass today, more like how do I get that out of

my head? Fortunately I didn't have any nightmares - that I remember.

>

> Ive seen a little bit of it - couldn't do it. You are badass to see the

> whole thing!

>

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Annie and , good to know others had the same reaction. I felt kinda

silly when I posted at the 46 minute mark last night and got this determined, I

started it I'm gonna finish it mood. Still I think it will haunt me for a long

time. I also hope it will motivate me to make bolder moves than I have to date.

It wasn't an exact representation of how my FOO is by any means but there were

bits and pieces that were horrifyingly familiar. THAT is the face of madness.

> >

> > I couldn't watch the whole thing either, 15 minutes' worth was too

triggering.

> >

> > -Annie

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Irene, guess that didn't turn out to be a nice movie night? The raccoon in

their attic seemed to be the only happy creature there.

>

>

> I've seen it. My husband rented it thinking it would be a nice movie about

getting older. No, it wasn't nice. It was weird and creepy and disgusting. I

think it won some awards though. Figures.

>

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