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Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their kids,

take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was totally

unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I feel

like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is, esp

the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just honestly

what happened.

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YES!

Girlscout, your stories are just as horrifying as all of ours. The funny thing

is, I feel detached too, and when I write my stories, I feel detached, but then

when I read what I wrote after it's posted, I start to get horrified at what my

childhood was like.

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> Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their kids,

> take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was totally

> unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

>

> But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I feel

> like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is, esp

> the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

>

> So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just honestly

> what happened.

>

>

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Yeah I go back and re read too - like its evidence.

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> YES!

>

> Girlscout, your stories are just as horrifying as all of ours. The funny

> thing is, I feel detached too, and when I write my stories, I feel detached,

> but then when I read what I wrote after it's posted, I start to get

> horrified at what my childhood was like.

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> >

> > Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their

> kids,

> > take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was

> totally

> > unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

> >

> > But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I

> feel

> > like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> > raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is,

> esp

> > the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

> >

> > So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> > need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just

> honestly

> > what happened.

> >

> >

> >

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I sometimes wonder if those things really happened to me, if maybe didn't I make

them up? Certainly my nada & my foo say they did.

But my foo does what my nada says, and since they are much younger, they don't

remember either. Or at least claim to not remember.

When I read stories on here, I think, oh, it happened to you too. Just knowing

that I'm not alone helps.

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> Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their kids,

> take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was totally

> unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

>

> But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I feel

> like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is, esp

> the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

>

> So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just honestly

> what happened.

>

>

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Your stories make me sad, that your parents didn't really know you, or it seems,

want to know you.

But, it really doesn't matter what I think -- you know the truth of feeling

nullified and unloved by them, esp your nada, whether I or anyone can understand

or not, you know what I mean?

For me, my stories aren't really that horrific or sad. Many people would say,

and have said, " oh, but she's your moooom! everyone's mom is a little crazy!

hee! " And it feels like they've knifed me and disregarded what I feel and know

to be true. But through being here and in therapy, I get it now - others can

have their own agenda for not wanting to validate me, or they might really not

get it. Whatever, I know I'm not nuts!

I do validate you and your pain.

>

> Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their kids,

> take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was totally

> unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

>

> But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I feel

> like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is, esp

> the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

>

> So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just honestly

> what happened.

>

>

>

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Yes. Horrifying. I often read your posts with wide-eyed shock and say to

myself: " How did she live through that? "

I'm amazed you can form sentences, much less be the clever, strong,

compassionate person you are to us all. You should be institutionalized with

the level of abuse and psychological warfare you sustained. Yes. It was that

intense, that horrific, and that destructive. Your stories are shocking.

Be careful not to judge the level of your abuse by your incredible ability to

rise above--you were abused, and abused in an over-the-top, intense and

sustained way. Just because you're wonderful doesn't mean they weren't . . .

evil? destructive? I can't find the word for the hate and damage they

perpetrated.

I get it, though. Odd how we can see others and feel compassionate &

appropriate horror, but not internalize that disgust or compassion when it comes

to our own experiences.

I also think this is part of the healing process--you can't really see it other

than " it just was " until you're ready. That's a lot to grapple with when the

horror becomes personal.

Blessings to you, and thanks so much for being here. You are a gifted at being

a healing presence to us all!

Karla

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> Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their kids,

> take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was totally

> unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

>

> But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I feel

> like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is, esp

> the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

>

> So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just honestly

> what happened.

>

>

>

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thank you karla xoxo

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:32 AM, kyjohnson40days

wrote:

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>

> Yes. Horrifying. I often read your posts with wide-eyed shock and say to

> myself: " How did she live through that? "

>

> I'm amazed you can form sentences, much less be the clever, strong,

> compassionate person you are to us all. You should be institutionalized with

> the level of abuse and psychological warfare you sustained. Yes. It was that

> intense, that horrific, and that destructive. Your stories are shocking.

>

> Be careful not to judge the level of your abuse by your incredible ability

> to rise above--you were abused, and abused in an over-the-top, intense and

> sustained way. Just because you're wonderful doesn't mean they weren't . . .

> evil? destructive? I can't find the word for the hate and damage they

> perpetrated.

>

> I get it, though. Odd how we can see others and feel compassionate &

> appropriate horror, but not internalize that disgust or compassion when it

> comes to our own experiences.

>

> I also think this is part of the healing process--you can't really see it

> other than " it just was " until you're ready. That's a lot to grapple with

> when the horror becomes personal.

>

> Blessings to you, and thanks so much for being here. You are a gifted at

> being a healing presence to us all!

>

> Karla

>

>

>

> >

> > Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their

> kids,

> > take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was

> totally

> > unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

> >

> > But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I

> feel

> > like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> > raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is,

> esp

> > the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

> >

> > So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> > need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just

> honestly

> > what happened.

> >

> >

> >

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Interesting thoughts.

I beleive the same as you. I think its a defence mechanism, to help us try and

normalize.

When I speak to people about my mother trying to kill me, and the other horrible

things she has said or done, they are " matter of fact " because, yes, they

happened. I survived. There is no sense in re-living the pain attached to that.

People react either in horror or disbeleif. Sometimes I worry about not being

beleived (thats a trigger for me) so I tend to not talk about it at all.

This was our norm.

What you have been through is very personal, I don't know your whole story, but

it is likely just as horrible as every other persons here on the board - which

is specific to YOU. It cut YOU. It was YOUR experience and if it traumatized

you, then YES its valid.

>

> Some of the stories of things nadas and fadas have done to you, their kids,

> take my breath away. The current example is RG's nada saying she was totally

> unlovable and all her friends were pretending.

>

> But when it comes to my own stories, I have a feeling of detachment. I feel

> like, hey these are the facts, this is what happened, this is how I was

> raised. It's not a tragedy, it's not a horror show (well some of it is, esp

> the way my brother treated me), its just the truth.

>

> So that leaves me wondering - do my stories ever take your breath away? I

> need an outside opinion - was it bad? Was I abused? To me its just honestly

> what happened.

>

>

>

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