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So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

myself and use boundaries.

Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

boundaries with her.

She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally in

love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when daughter

was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling down

her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds almost

like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And she

totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel the

emotions that were coursing through her.

I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

" unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine insulting

Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face of

a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she can

just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

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Good for you for not allowing her rude comment about the gifts in.!

> So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> myself and use boundaries.

>

> Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> boundaries with her.

>

> She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally in

> love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when daughter

> was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling down

> her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

>

> Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds almost

> like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And she

> totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel the

> emotions that were coursing through her.

>

> I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

>

> The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine insulting

> Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

>

> Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face of

> a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she can

> just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

>

>

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I have to admit I read this post cause I thought it was about a zoo trip and you

were just being silly with spelling.

Now I think your boss is a red-assed, turd, flinging baboon.

First of all, Davy ? Off limits! Foul! The poor daughter was set up!

Second, evil eye'd anonymous person? OMG ... that's a totally made up lie!

There WASN'T any such person. If this person existed for any of us (because

we've all been exposed to a Nada or other BPD who tried to control our

enthusiasm because it made them uncomfortable and somehow SOMEHOW this 'other

person' was always there forcing Nada-esque insane folks to take heed and make

the situation bad and redirect focus of control back to THEM - my God)

IFIFIFIFIF that person existed... THEY'D TELL US (or at very least the

restaurant manager)... not send the BPD'er out to 'save the world of the over

abundance of laughing folks. God... what a complex!

Lynnette

>

> So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> myself and use boundaries.

>

> Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> boundaries with her.

>

> She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally in

> love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when daughter

> was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling down

> her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

>

> Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds almost

> like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And she

> totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel the

> emotions that were coursing through her.

>

> I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

>

> The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine insulting

> Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

>

> Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face of

> a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she can

> just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

>

>

>

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Lynette I love you will you marry me?

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:21 PM, yp_lynnette_cameron_park <

h_l_maston@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have to admit I read this post cause I thought it was about a zoo trip

> and you were just being silly with spelling.

>

> Now I think your boss is a red-assed, turd, flinging baboon.

>

> First of all, Davy ? Off limits! Foul! The poor daughter was set up!

>

> Second, evil eye'd anonymous person? OMG ... that's a totally made up lie!

> There WASN'T any such person. If this person existed for any of us (because

> we've all been exposed to a Nada or other BPD who tried to control our

> enthusiasm because it made them uncomfortable and somehow SOMEHOW this

> 'other person' was always there forcing Nada-esque insane folks to take heed

> and make the situation bad and redirect focus of control back to THEM - my

> God) IFIFIFIFIF that person existed... THEY'D TELL US (or at very least the

> restaurant manager)... not send the BPD'er out to 'save the world of the

> over abundance of laughing folks. God... what a complex!

>

> Lynnette

>

>

>

> >

> > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > myself and use boundaries.

> >

> > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > boundaries with her.

> >

> > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

> in

> > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

> daughter

> > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

> down

> > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> >

> > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

> almost

> > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

> she

> > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

> the

> > emotions that were coursing through her.

> >

> > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> >

> > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

> insulting

> > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> >

> > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face

> of

> > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she

> can

> > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> >

> >

> >

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Okay, that was a very good analogy (and I feel sorry for the boss's daughter

too!)....And it just reminded me of something my mother did ALLLLLL the damn

time. She would let me go spend the night at a sleepover with other girls (she

didnt care where I slept as long as kids weren't at my house) or a party of some

kind, and she would later tell me that " So and so said you were staring at them

all night. " Or it might be, " Why did you act so stupid, ? DO you know

people were coming up to me all night long tell me that you were

strange/weird/retarded. " Fill in the blank with most any word.

So I walked around with this complex that other people noticed something

" different " about me and were pointing it out even to my mother who said these

things all the time. If everyone is noticing, then of course it has to be true,

right?

God I hate BPD.

Re: Re: She insulted the MONKEES!!!!

Lynette I love you will you marry me?

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:21 PM, yp_lynnette_cameron_park <

_l_maston@...> wrote:

>

I have to admit I read this post cause I thought it was about a zoo trip

and you were just being silly with spelling.

Now I think your boss is a red-assed, turd, flinging baboon.

First of all, Davy ? Off limits! Foul! The poor daughter was set up!

Second, evil eye'd anonymous person? OMG ... that's a totally made up lie!

There WASN'T any such person. If this person existed for any of us (because

we've all been exposed to a Nada or other BPD who tried to control our

enthusiasm because it made them uncomfortable and somehow SOMEHOW this

'other person' was always there forcing Nada-esque insane folks to take heed

and make the situation bad and redirect focus of control back to THEM - my

God) IFIFIFIFIF that person existed... THEY'D TELL US (or at very least the

restaurant manager)... not send the BPD'er out to 'save the world of the

over abundance of laughing folks. God... what a complex!

Lynnette

>

> So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> myself and use boundaries.

>

> Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> boundaries with her.

>

> She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

in

> love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

daughter

> was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

down

> her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

>

> Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

almost

> like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

she

> totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

the

> emotions that were coursing through her.

>

> I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

>

> The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

insulting

> Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

>

> Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face

of

> a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she

can

> just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

>

>

>

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Yeah, sometimes those snide sidelong comments pack a major punch!

Do you guys think boss is BPD? I think she has tendancies, but isn't full

blown. But she isn't very nice - esp to her own kid. And esp to me!

I just read something the other day that denying someone the right to their

feelings is nearly as bad as murdering them. That's what she did to her poor

kid.

>

>

>

> Okay, that was a very good analogy (and I feel sorry for the boss's

> daughter too!)....And it just reminded me of something my mother did ALLLLLL

> the damn time. She would let me go spend the night at a sleepover with other

> girls (she didnt care where I slept as long as kids weren't at my house) or

> a party of some kind, and she would later tell me that " So and so said you

> were staring at them all night. " Or it might be, " Why did you act so stupid,

> ? DO you know people were coming up to me all night long tell me that

> you were strange/weird/retarded. " Fill in the blank with most any word.

>

> So I walked around with this complex that other people noticed something

> " different " about me and were pointing it out even to my mother who said

> these things all the time. If everyone is noticing, then of course it has to

> be true, right?

>

> God I hate BPD.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Re: She insulted the MONKEES!!!!

>

> Lynette I love you will you marry me?

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:21 PM, yp_lynnette_cameron_park <

> _l_maston@...> wrote:

> >

>

> I have to admit I read this post cause I thought it was about a zoo trip

> and you were just being silly with spelling.

>

> Now I think your boss is a red-assed, turd, flinging baboon.

>

> First of all, Davy ? Off limits! Foul! The poor daughter was set up!

>

> Second, evil eye'd anonymous person? OMG ... that's a totally made up lie!

> There WASN'T any such person. If this person existed for any of us (because

> we've all been exposed to a Nada or other BPD who tried to control our

> enthusiasm because it made them uncomfortable and somehow SOMEHOW this

> 'other person' was always there forcing Nada-esque insane folks to take

> heed

> and make the situation bad and redirect focus of control back to THEM - my

> God) IFIFIFIFIF that person existed... THEY'D TELL US (or at very least the

> restaurant manager)... not send the BPD'er out to 'save the world of the

> over abundance of laughing folks. God... what a complex!

>

> Lynnette

>

>

> >

> > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > myself and use boundaries.

> >

> > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > boundaries with her.

> >

> > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

> in

> > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

> daughter

> > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

> down

> > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> >

> > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

> almost

> > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

> she

> > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

> the

> > emotions that were coursing through her.

> >

> > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> >

> > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

> insulting

> > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> >

> > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face

> of

> > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she

> can

> > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> >

> >

> >

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Couldn't tell if she has BPD or not but she's sure a bitch.

Lynnette

> > >

> > > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > > myself and use boundaries.

> > >

> > > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > > boundaries with her.

> > >

> > > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

> > in

> > > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

> > daughter

> > > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> > > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

> > down

> > > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> > > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> > >

> > > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

> > almost

> > > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

> > she

> > > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

> > the

> > > emotions that were coursing through her.

> > >

> > > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> > > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> > >

> > > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

> > insulting

> > > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> > > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> > > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> > > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> > > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face

> > of

> > > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she

> > can

> > > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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So, I've only done 3 semesters of Seminary so far . . . but I'm pretty sure

insulting Davey within earshot is heresy. RUN AWAY!!!

:)

Blessings,

Karla

>

> So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> myself and use boundaries.

>

> Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> boundaries with her.

>

> She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally in

> love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when daughter

> was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling down

> her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

>

> Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds almost

> like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And she

> totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel the

> emotions that were coursing through her.

>

> I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

>

> The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine insulting

> Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

>

> Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face of

> a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she can

> just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

>

>

>

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Karla - LOL, it's good to have that

confirmation from a professional!

I'm of the age group that was enthralled with the Monkees. It was a harmless,

silly way for pre-teens to have crushes on the equivalent of a boy-band. I can

just imagine a Nada feeling threatened by the removal of focus on her and her

bottomless pit of need - so since the daughter was so engaged with another

person, group, or thing, why not ruin it? My nada did things like this - not

about the Monkees, but about other events or episodes when I was in a moment of

pure joy. She always had to burst the balloon, bring focus back onto herself,

make me feel like crap. She continued to do it until I was well into my 40's

and decided it was an attack, rather than a way for her to " show her concern for

me and my behavior " as she said. She hasn't stopped the attacks, but I sure

have stopped caring what she thinks.

Crazy old cow...

> >

> > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > myself and use boundaries.

> >

> > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > boundaries with her.

> >

> > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally in

> > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when daughter

> > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling down

> > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> >

> > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds almost

> > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And she

> > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel the

> > emotions that were coursing through her.

> >

> > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> >

> > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine insulting

> > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> >

> > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face of

> > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she can

> > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> >

> >

> >

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I love you guys so much!

I agree Davey even gave the little girl a kiss at the end. Yeah, that is a

sure recipe to burn in hell - dissing davey. I was horrified!

So I decided the next person who asks me if I'm spending a holiday with my

mother is going to hear this from me: " My mother is like Darth Vader. And

I'm Luke Skywalker. So it doesn't really work out. "

What do you guys think? I'm calling on a pop culture archetype to educate

the muggles :)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:10 PM, kyjohnson40days <kyjohnson40days@...

> wrote:

>

>

> So, I've only done 3 semesters of Seminary so far . . . but I'm pretty sure

> insulting Davey within earshot is heresy. RUN AWAY!!!

>

> :)

>

> Blessings,

> Karla

>

>

>

> >

> > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > myself and use boundaries.

> >

> > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > boundaries with her.

> >

> > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

> in

> > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

> daughter

> > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store. The

> > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

> down

> > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter " Stop

> > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> >

> > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

> almost

> > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

> she

> > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

> the

> > emotions that were coursing through her.

> >

> > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry -

> > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> >

> > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

> insulting

> > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> >

> > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why I

> > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my gifts

> > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her statement

> > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it home

> > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the face

> of

> > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then she

> can

> > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> >

> >

> >

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" so since the daughter was so engaged with another person, group, or thing,

why not ruin it? "

Thank you , that describes it to a T and both my examples - the ruining

the monkees and ruining my gift opening in a restaurant - same exact thing.

Ruining someone elses good time and shifting the focus back to her.

Hugs guys, I knew you would understand my monkees story!

I LOVED the monkees too!!!

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:06 AM, shirleyspawn wrote:

>

>

> Karla - LOL, it's good to have that

> confirmation from a professional!

>

> I'm of the age group that was enthralled with the Monkees. It was a

> harmless, silly way for pre-teens to have crushes on the equivalent of a

> boy-band. I can just imagine a Nada feeling threatened by the removal of

> focus on her and her bottomless pit of need - so since the daughter was so

> engaged with another person, group, or thing, why not ruin it? My nada did

> things like this - not about the Monkees, but about other events or episodes

> when I was in a moment of pure joy. She always had to burst the balloon,

> bring focus back onto herself, make me feel like crap. She continued to do

> it until I was well into my 40's and decided it was an attack, rather than a

> way for her to " show her concern for me and my behavior " as she said. She

> hasn't stopped the attacks, but I sure have stopped caring what she thinks.

> Crazy old cow...

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > > myself and use boundaries.

> > >

> > > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > > boundaries with her.

> > >

> > > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

> in

> > > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

> daughter

> > > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store.

> The

> > > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

> down

> > > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter

> " Stop

> > > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> > >

> > > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

> almost

> > > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

> she

> > > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

> the

> > > emotions that were coursing through her.

> > >

> > > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry

> -

> > > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> > >

> > > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

> insulting

> > > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why

> I

> > > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my

> gifts

> > > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her

> statement

> > > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it

> home

> > > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the

> face of

> > > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then

> she can

> > > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I remember when I was in high school...I tried out for the flag team for my

senior year.  It was something I wanted to do, but one of those things you have

to ask your parents for permission for.  I made the team, and my stepmom told me

that if she hadn't encouraged me, I wouldn't have made the team.  It was all

about her, always.  That completely ruined the whole thing for me.

Janet

 

 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own

understanding.

 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.

Proverbs 3:5-8

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Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 9:06:28 AM

Subject: Re: Re: She insulted the MONKEES!!!!

" so since the daughter was so engaged with another person, group, or thing,

why not ruin it? "

Thank you , that describes it to a T and both my examples - the ruining

the monkees and ruining my gift opening in a restaurant - same exact thing.

Ruining someone elses good time and shifting the focus back to her.

Hugs guys, I knew you would understand my monkees story!

I LOVED the monkees too!!!

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:06 AM, shirleyspawn wrote:

>

>

> Karla - LOL, it's good to have that

> confirmation from a professional!

>

> I'm of the age group that was enthralled with the Monkees. It was a

> harmless, silly way for pre-teens to have crushes on the equivalent of a

> boy-band. I can just imagine a Nada feeling threatened by the removal of

> focus on her and her bottomless pit of need - so since the daughter was so

> engaged with another person, group, or thing, why not ruin it? My nada did

> things like this - not about the Monkees, but about other events or episodes

> when I was in a moment of pure joy. She always had to burst the balloon,

> bring focus back onto herself, make me feel like crap. She continued to do

> it until I was well into my 40's and decided it was an attack, rather than a

> way for her to " show her concern for me and my behavior " as she said. She

> hasn't stopped the attacks, but I sure have stopped caring what she thinks.

> Crazy old cow...

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > So, I am friends with my boss, but she has been much of the focus of my

> > > boundary setting with my T. She is not a wholey bad person, but she

> > > definitely doesn't fall into the " safe " category and so I have to guard

> > > myself and use boundaries.

> > >

> > > Yesterday she told me a story that really emphasized why I feel I need

> > > boundaries with her.

> > >

> > > She said her daughter (just a couple years younger than me) was totally

> in

> > > love with the silly band the Monkees when she was little. So when

> daughter

> > > was in jr high, they took her to meet the Monkees at a record store.

> The

> > > daughter was so moved by meeting her idols that tears started rolling

> down

> > > her face. My boss told me she leaned in and HISSED at her daughter

> " Stop

> > > your crying, these are just old men just like your dad. "

> > >

> > > Now maybe you have to hear her voice when she says it, but it sounds

> almost

> > > like the snake language in Harry Potter when she hisses like that. And

> she

> > > totally shut down her little girl and told her she had no right to feel

> the

> > > emotions that were coursing through her.

> > >

> > > I was so freaking appalled. In my mind a door slammed shut with the cry

> -

> > > " unsafe! " And I feel terrible for her child.

> > >

> > > The funny part is the Monkees heard her do that. Can you imagine

> insulting

> > > Davey ? My god he's a dream boat!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Kay, not really the deepest story ever but it is a good example of why

> I

> > > need to protect myself and my emotions. She leaned over 3 people at our

> > > Christmas Office Girlfriend lunch to tell me that I was enjoying my

> gifts

> > > too loudly and other people in the restaurant were giving her crusties

> > > because of my behavior. Same thing. Same exact thing! I let her

> statement

> > > flop down right there on the table and didn't pick it up and take it

> home

> > > and put it under my pillow. If she cares about the expression on the

> face of

> > > a total stranger more than me enjoying my gifts from my besties then

> she can

> > > just go somewhere else and hiss at someone else. Or hiss there all by

> > > herself and let it fall on deaf ears.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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