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Yikes.

One trend I'm seeing is...Why do people claim that being abused gives them a

reason to abuse others? So we would be more likely to forgive them?

Hell, no, that isn't going to happen. We all have to make a choice--we could

choose to continue the cycle of abuse, or we could choose to get help and

stop with the effing abuse already.

She chose the wrong answer.

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I'm with you Holly!

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Holly Byers

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> Yikes.

>

> One trend I'm seeing is...Why do people claim that being abused gives them

> a

> reason to abuse others? So we would be more likely to forgive them?

>

> Hell, no, that isn't going to happen. We all have to make a choice--we

> could

> choose to continue the cycle of abuse, or we could choose to get help and

> stop with the effing abuse already.

>

> She chose the wrong answer.

>

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

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> > This is one of the worst ones I've seen.

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My therapist told me she once worked with sex offenders and one excuse in

therapy they were never allowed to use was that they were abused.

Re: oh dear lord

Yikes.

One trend I'm seeing is...Why do people claim that being abused gives them a

eason to abuse others? So we would be more likely to forgive them?

Hell, no, that isn't going to happen. We all have to make a choice--we could

hoose to continue the cycle of abuse, or we could choose to get help and

top with the effing abuse already.

She chose the wrong answer.

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This is one of the worst ones I've seen.

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I don't know, according to this woman's comments, she says that she has become

the perpetrator of the abuse and that she wants help because she doesn't want to

hurt anyone.

Not excusing her abusive behavior in any way, or saying that should create

leniency, but I can appreciate that she seems to be taking responsibility for

her own actions. She didn't say: I was abused so what I did is okay. She was

saying, in my opinion: I was abused and therefore I do these bad things and hurt

other people, and I don't want to do those things, I know what I did is wrong, I

want help to stop doing those things. I didn't see her denying her own

responsibility. She even admits that her own release from prison isn't going to

change anything.

What she did was reprehensible, and she should serve the whole 20 years for it.

But I think she is in a lot of pain too, and it would serve us as a society to

see that she gets help while in prison so she can become a healthy and safe and

productive member of society. And never be allowed to have kids again though.

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> This is one of the worst ones I've seen.

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More and more I just see people as damaged packages of pain. When I meet

someone new I don't get to know them, I try to figure out what their pain

is, how they were damaged, and most important - what do I need to do to

protect myself from them.

This woman seems like a mega pack of pain. But what she did is sickening.

Reminds me of the book A Child Called It.

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> I don't know, according to this woman's comments, she says that she has

> become the perpetrator of the abuse and that she wants help because she

> doesn't want to hurt anyone.

>

> Not excusing her abusive behavior in any way, or saying that should create

> leniency, but I can appreciate that she seems to be taking responsibility

> for her own actions. She didn't say: I was abused so what I did is okay. She

> was saying, in my opinion: I was abused and therefore I do these bad things

> and hurt other people, and I don't want to do those things, I know what I

> did is wrong, I want help to stop doing those things. I didn't see her

> denying her own responsibility. She even admits that her own release from

> prison isn't going to change anything.

>

> What she did was reprehensible, and she should serve the whole 20 years for

> it. But I think she is in a lot of pain too, and it would serve us as a

> society to see that she gets help while in prison so she can become a

> healthy and safe and productive member of society. And never be allowed to

> have kids again though.

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> > This is one of the worst ones I've seen.

> > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/<http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/

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girlscout, You nailed it! There's no reason to abuse others, for any

reason. Our life is determined by the choices we make. We all make poor

choices thru out our life, but we're supposed to learn from them. Treat

others the way you would like to be treated. if you are being abused or

disrespected, turn you head, walk away. Choices, choices............know when

to

walk away from abuse. We've all suffered it; no one is

perfect............It's smart to learn and know when to walk away.

Laurie

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I'm with you Holly!

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Holly Byers

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>wrote:

> Yikes.

>

> One trend I'm seeing is...Why do people claim that being abused gives

them

> a

> reason to abuse others? So we would be more likely to forgive them?

>

> Hell, no, that isn't going to happen. We all have to make a choice--we

> could

> choose to continue the cycle of abuse, or we could choose to get help and

> stop with the effing abuse already.

>

> She chose the wrong answer.

>

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> _girlscout.cowboy@..._ (mailto:girlscout.cowboy@...) > wrote:

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