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Hi Jocelyne,

Wow, I could not handle 15 calls a day from my nada. You have a lot more

patience and stamina than I do. Holy Cow.

I'm in No Contact with my nada because I started developing very distressing

Meniere's Disease-like symptoms after being " ambushed " by my mother by phone,

and I simply can't function normally and earn a living under those conditions.

I suggest that its possible that your nada may be suffering from anxiety, or an

anxiety disorder, perhaps? If that's the case, then there is a little pill that

can help with that. Anti-anxiety meds really work. I had to go on a course of

anti-anxiety meds at one point, when I found myself in a highly stressful job

situation (due to a change in management that gave me " the boss-monster from

hell " instead of my wonderful original boss). I can attest that the

anti-anxiety meds did the trick and allowed me to survive and function

adequately until I could get myself transferred out of there. When I did get

situated in a different department far, far away from the boss-monster, I didn't

need the anti-anxiety meds anymore.

So, maybe your nada could get a little check-up from her doctor, and you could

let the doctor know that nada is so anxious and nervous that she calls you 15

times a day, and maybe some anti-anxiety meds would help her?

Just an idea to consider.

-Annie

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> Thank you for the kind words of encouragement. Health issues are dfinitely a

game my nada plays. It has become predictable now : if there is a big family

event,like a wedding ,a family Christmas party etc.. you can bet she will have

some physical complaint or complain so much about the location of the event or

the weather or the time or whatever to turn the attention to herself.( she

almost ruined both my daughters weddings).She calls me about 15 times a day and

insists on knowing my schedule for every minute of the day.If I don't tell her,

she has a fit and calls my daughters or my friends to find out what I am doing

and why did I try to hide it from her! ( I am a grandmother!!!).It seems the

more people do for her, the more she rages against them.People who try to stay

away or be neutral,she tries to charm and people fall for it.They tell me how

lovely and nice my nada is .It's hard for me not to tell them the truth.She

lives in a lovely assisted

> living place. I have tried to suggest she gets involved in some of the

activities (so she stops bugging me) she hates everything and everybody,has no

friends,hates the people,hates the food,hates the climate.Don't bpd's see that

they are their own worst ennemy? I guess it is time to stop hoping that

something will click in her mind and that she could enjoy the little time she

has left if only her attitude could change.How I wish there was a pill for this

disease!

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This was my mother's MO. It was crazy, crazy and if I was even 5 minutes later

than I thought I'd be, she'd leave me nasty message about how I didn't care if

she worried and I was a horrible daughter. Then her messages go pitiful and even

suicidal. It was just really weird. My therapist told me that BPDs are common

in doing this. She treated a BPD once and said the girl would call 10 times in

10 minutes and by the time she called her back, she had text'd and emailed

pictures of her cut up arms. My nada never cut herself, but I'm sure you get

the picture of how desperate they feel.

In Understanding the Borderline Mother, one thing that stands out to me is that

she stated that not only can nada not see that we are our own person and she

doesn't own us by just giving birth, but she feels abandoned without constant

contact. It was tiresome. Especially with a husband and three kids. If

there's anything I don't miss about my mother, this is the biggest thing. I can

go to the grocery store without reporting to someone.

Nada calls 15 times a day

Hi Jocelyne,

Wow, I could not handle 15 calls a day from my nada. You have a lot more

patience and stamina than I do. Holy Cow.

I'm in No Contact with my nada because I started developing very distressing

Meniere's Disease-like symptoms after being " ambushed " by my mother by phone,

and I simply can't function normally and earn a living under those conditions.

I suggest that its possible that your nada may be suffering from anxiety, or an

anxiety disorder, perhaps? If that's the case, then there is a little pill that

can help with that. Anti-anxiety meds really work. I had to go on a course of

anti-anxiety meds at one point, when I found myself in a highly stressful job

situation (due to a change in management that gave me " the boss-monster from

hell " instead of my wonderful original boss). I can attest that the anti-anxiety

meds did the trick and allowed me to survive and function adequately until I

could get myself transferred out of there. When I did get situated in a

different department far, far away from the boss-monster, I didn't need the

anti-anxiety meds anymore.

So, maybe your nada could get a little check-up from her doctor, and you could

let the doctor know that nada is so anxious and nervous that she calls you 15

times a day, and maybe some anti-anxiety meds would help her?

Just an idea to consider.

-Annie

>

> Thank you for the kind words of encouragement. Health issues are dfinitely a

game my nada plays. It has become predictable now : if there is a big family

event,like a wedding ,a family Christmas party etc.. you can bet she will have

some physical complaint or complain so much about the location of the event or

the weather or the time or whatever to turn the attention to herself.( she

almost ruined both my daughters weddings).She calls me about 15 times a day and

insists on knowing my schedule for every minute of the day.If I don't tell her,

she has a fit and calls my daughters or my friends to find out what I am doing

and why did I try to hide it from her! ( I am a grandmother!!!).It seems the

more people do for her, the more she rages against them.People who try to stay

away or be neutral,she tries to charm and people fall for it.They tell me how

lovely and nice my nada is .It's hard for me not to tell them the truth.She

lives in a lovely assisted

> living place. I have tried to suggest she gets involved in some of the

activities (so she stops bugging me) she hates everything and everybody,has no

friends,hates the people,hates the food,hates the climate.Don't bpd's see that

they are their own worst ennemy? I guess it is time to stop hoping that

something will click in her mind and that she could enjoy the little time she

has left if only her attitude could change.How I wish there was a pill for this

disease!

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I am dealing with this right now... at the very moment actually. The most

calls I have gotten in this recent run is 8 in two days. What is especially

hard is I will not answer all of her calls all of the time. I will be sure

to answer about once ever one to two weeks. She is back to calling daily now

once or twice a day. But here is the catch. If I do not answer she starts

calling around trying to find out what is wrong with me. She calls my sister

telling her I am depressed and even though my sister assures her I am just

fine that she has seen me and I am fine (my sister and I talk most every

day)my nada persists in spreading her propaganda that I am mentally sick and

heading into a downward spiral that can happen at any time extremely fast

and so she keeps calling and calling.

When I do make arrangements to see her at a party or sometimes at my home I

make sure the visit is good. We have fun, I give hugs, we chatter about

light things... I do NOT let her go on and on about how bad others are

anymore and that may be a part of it. The she goes home and before long the

process starts again.

I don't know what to do about it. I have talked to her directly about

telling people that the things that I do are " because I am sick " . She looked

like a deer and headlights and slinked out of my house as fast as she could

yet continues to do it.

Sorry for going on but there was yet another call when I came home tonight

and I am at the end of my frustration level right now. Anyone have any

suggestions on how to get your nada to stop spreading that you are mentally

unstable and about to spiral out of control at any moment?

Thanks,

Cuddle

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Just an update to my own post! :-)

Last night I bit the bullet and went NC with nada. We wrote a script, my

husband made the call and we sent a copy of the script as well. It's a very

mixed feeling but there is relief... the other part is it is kind of

scary... just have to wait and see what comes.

I know there is no way to stop her from spreading the things she spreads

about me but at least I can fight against the constant calls and hounding.

It is an initial 2 week NC at which point we will re-evaluate...

Cuddle

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Good job! What did she say?

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Cuddle Kettle wrote:

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> Last night I bit the bullet and went NC with nada. We wrote a script, my

> husband made the call and we sent a copy of the script as well. It's a very

> mixed feeling but there is relief... the other part is it is kind of

> scary... just have to wait and see what comes.

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> I know there is no way to stop her from spreading the things she spreads

> about me but at least I can fight against the constant calls and hounding.

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> It is an initial 2 week NC at which point we will re-evaluate...

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Actually, not a word!

My husband didn't give her the opportunity to bargain. He explained the

situation, asked her to respect it, wished her a good night and hung up the

phone. We did give my dad a heads up before talking to my mom and sent him

an exact copy of the script we wrote out... it won't change what she says

but at least he will know what was actually said for his own knowledge and

to give to her if need be.

I am sure part of this escalation on her part is because bada moved out of

their house this past week. She is now grasping...

Regardless, the ball is rolling and what happens next will happen next...

It was a lot easier when I went NC with my bada almost two years ago. This

one is a little more scary but there is nothing I can do but move on with my

life and let her do whatever she will do...

Cuddle

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