Tachycardia....??......: Re: Is this what you mean by fleas?

[Guest guest]

Does anyone else get tachycardia from anxiety? I can be lying in bed trying to

get to sleep and, suddenly, feel *attacked* by dread and thoughts of my mom and

my sister.....and, suddenly, my heart is POUNDING.......jumping out of my

chest.  It is very scary, but I researched it and found out it was a symptom of

anxiety.........*sigh*

Alastriona

" If you have knowledge, let others light their candles from your flame. "

Margaret Fuller

Subject: Re: Is this what you mean by fleas?

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 11:56 AM

,

First, (((((hugs)))).  This is my own theory based on my own experience.  I have

a diagnosis of GAD (generalized anxiety disorder).  There are times when under

great distress (primarily when my character or person is under attack) that I do

have panic attacks.  My own theory is that as a child I knew things weren't

quite right but was always told I wasn't seeing things correctly, that I was

wrong, everything was normal and I was the abnormal one.  As you can imagine,

this created a lot of stress.  So, to cope, I began ignoring stressful thoughts

in that I will not acknowledge them.  So, they buzz right on by my consciousness

and generate the anxiety.  If left unchecked, and if more stressful thoughts are

generated, my system goes through an " overload " process. Where suddenly

everything sets off the adrenaline and I've lost control.  My panic attacks come

in waves.  If I'm not careful, the first one that hits will cause a loss of

consciousness

for a few seconds. The second and third wave will be very uncomfortable but I

wont suffer LOC (loss of consciousness).  It sucks so much and makes me feel so

defective...but that's bad because that adds to the stress.

So, yes, my parents put those thought responses into me but I'm in charge now

and can disengage from the anxiety.  I have had to learn to be incredibly

watchful for negative thoughts inside my head and pluck them out to rationally

address.  If I view any of those thoughts associated with the lies nada planted

into my thoughts, I dismiss them by turning it around.  I will say to the voice

inside my head, " you lie and this is not what it seems. "   I will then start with

positive affirmations, silver lining seeking thoughts and quickly inventorying

the things I have the power to change and plan to change them one step at a time

or accepting the things that are out of my control and realizing I need not

borrow trouble by worrying about assumptions of impending doom when I cannot

validate with 100% certainty that the assumptions are facts.  I have had to

learn to quickly deconstruct my thoughts and reconstruct them in a hurry.  To do

that, I have to

temporarily remove myself from the situation.  I was in a meeting with my boss

and I felt like he was attacking me much like nada would.  Involuntarily, the

tears and shaking started and I couldn't stop it.  I just looked at him and

said, " You'll have to excuse me for a few moments, I'll be right back. "   I went

to the ladies room, acknowledged the stress - realized that his line of

questioning was about his own stress and had nothing at all to do with me.  I

calmed myself, avoided the panic attack and went back in to finish my meeting. 

Seeing the state he unwittingly drove me to caused him to change his tactic with

me and the meeting went just fine.

So, I can't help when it strikes too much but I can control my reactions by

disengaging from whatever activity is generating too intense of a stream of

anxiety for me.  I've suffered so much anxiety from nadas attacks that my

anxiety is now generalized and I suffer it often.  I have to take care of my

disorder, be patient with myself and learn ways to seek complete peace.  I take

walking brakes in the middle of the day to be by myself.  I meditate at night to

clear all thoughts and start purposely thinking loving thoughts about me.  I

will talk calmly, soothingly and lovingly to myself during such moments and I am

able to reduce the stress.  I've also had to learn to ask for help with some

tasks that are overwhelming.

So, thinking positive helps.  Remove yourself from stressful situations to

collect yourself. Take deep cleansing breaths to help calm yourself and

disengage from the thoughts. It's possible that some negative thoughts are

running rampant unnoticed by you consciously and they are generating frustrating

thoughts.  You can retrain your mind to work a little differently but it takes

time and practice.  If that doesn't help, talk to your MD about pharmaceutical

options until you can gain some positive ground in working through the anxiety

on your own.  I do have xanax in case of emergencies where I just cannot shut it

off.  It's great.  It works and I use it sparingly because I fear addiction

since my mom, dad and brother all were addicted to substances.

Hang in there...nada may have contributed to the anxiety problem but you can

learn to regain control, reprogram your thoughts and your stress response and

learn to live with it in a positive way.  I have not had a panic attack in 3

years.  Even when nada got my number by accident a couple of months ago, the

PTSD response kicked in hard core at first and for a week, I didn't feel safe. 

But, I did not have one panic attack.  You can master it.

Sending you strength and joy dear !

Jaie

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[Guest guest]

That is so weird. I had a little bit of that with pain when I was a

teenager--came on suddenly (and wasn't acid reflux or anything like that)

and mom had to take me to the hospital for tests. There, it was relaxing,

and I was with mom, who was not BP, and my heart stopped hurting after a

while. Couldn't find anything. I suspect it has a lot to do with stress from

walking on eggshells...

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Alastriona <

alastriona.smith@...> wrote:

>

>

> Does anyone else get tachycardia from anxiety? I can be lying in bed trying

> to get to sleep and, suddenly, feel *attacked* by dread and thoughts of my

> mom and my sister.....and, suddenly, my heart is POUNDING.......jumping out

> of my chest. It is very scary, but I researched it and found out it was a

> symptom of anxiety.........*sigh*

>

> Alastriona

> " If you have knowledge, let others light their candles from your flame. "

> Margaret Fuller

>

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: Is this what you mean by fleas?

> To: WTOAdultChildren1

> Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 11:56 AM

>

> ,

>

> First, (((((hugs)))). This is my own theory based on my own experience. I

> have a diagnosis of GAD (generalized anxiety disorder). There are times

> when under great distress (primarily when my character or person is under

> attack) that I do have panic attacks. My own theory is that as a child I

> knew things weren't quite right but was always told I wasn't seeing things

> correctly, that I was wrong, everything was normal and I was the abnormal

> one. As you can imagine, this created a lot of stress. So, to cope, I

> began ignoring stressful thoughts in that I will not acknowledge them. So,

> they buzz right on by my consciousness and generate the anxiety. If left

> unchecked, and if more stressful thoughts are generated, my system goes

> through an " overload " process. Where suddenly everything sets off the

> adrenaline and I've lost control. My panic attacks come in waves. If I'm

> not careful, the first one that hits will cause a loss of consciousness

> for a few seconds. The second and third wave will be very uncomfortable but

> I wont suffer LOC (loss of consciousness). It sucks so much and makes me

> feel so defective...but that's bad because that adds to the stress.

>

> So, yes, my parents put those thought responses into me but I'm in charge

> now and can disengage from the anxiety. I have had to learn to be

> incredibly watchful for negative thoughts inside my head and pluck them out

> to rationally address. If I view any of those thoughts associated with the

> lies nada planted into my thoughts, I dismiss them by turning it around. I

> will say to the voice inside my head, " you lie and this is not what it

> seems. " I will then start with positive affirmations, silver lining seeking

> thoughts and quickly inventorying the things I have the power to change and

> plan to change them one step at a time or accepting the things that are out

> of my control and realizing I need not borrow trouble by worrying about

> assumptions of impending doom when I cannot validate with 100% certainty

> that the assumptions are facts. I have had to learn to quickly deconstruct

> my thoughts and reconstruct them in a hurry. To do that, I have to

> temporarily remove myself from the situation. I was in a meeting with my

> boss and I felt like he was attacking me much like nada would.

> Involuntarily, the tears and shaking started and I couldn't stop it. I just

> looked at him and said, " You'll have to excuse me for a few moments, I'll be

> right back. " I went to the ladies room, acknowledged the stress - realized

> that his line of questioning was about his own stress and had nothing at all

> to do with me. I calmed myself, avoided the panic attack and went back in

> to finish my meeting. Seeing the state he unwittingly drove me to caused

> him to change his tactic with me and the meeting went just fine.

>

> So, I can't help when it strikes too much but I can control my reactions by

> disengaging from whatever activity is generating too intense of a stream of

> anxiety for me. I've suffered so much anxiety from nadas attacks that my

> anxiety is now generalized and I suffer it often. I have to take care of my

> disorder, be patient with myself and learn ways to seek complete peace. I

> take walking brakes in the middle of the day to be by myself. I meditate at

> night to clear all thoughts and start purposely thinking loving thoughts

> about me. I will talk calmly, soothingly and lovingly to myself during such

> moments and I am able to reduce the stress. I've also had to learn to ask

> for help with some tasks that are overwhelming.

>

> So, thinking positive helps. Remove yourself from stressful situations to

> collect yourself. Take deep cleansing breaths to help calm yourself and

> disengage from the thoughts. It's possible that some negative thoughts are

> running rampant unnoticed by you consciously and they are generating

> frustrating thoughts. You can retrain your mind to work a little

> differently but it takes time and practice. If that doesn't help, talk to

> your MD about pharmaceutical options until you can gain some positive ground

> in working through the anxiety on your own. I do have xanax in case of

> emergencies where I just cannot shut it off. It's great. It works and I

> use it sparingly because I fear addiction since my mom, dad and brother all

> were addicted to substances.

>

> Hang in there...nada may have contributed to the anxiety problem but you

> can learn to regain control, reprogram your thoughts and your stress

> response and learn to live with it in a positive way. I have not had a

> panic attack in 3 years. Even when nada got my number by accident a couple

> of months ago, the PTSD response kicked in hard core at first and for a

> week, I didn't feel safe. But, I did not have one panic attack. You can

> master it.

>

> Sending you strength and joy dear !

>

> Jaie

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> **This group is based on principles in Randi Kreger's new book The

> Essential Family Guide to Borderline Personality Disorder: New Tips and

> Tools to Stop Walking on Eggshells, available at www.BPDCentral.com.**

> Problems? Write @.... DO NOT RESPOND ON THE LIST.

>

> To unsub from this list, send a blank email to

> WTOAdultChildren1-unsubscribe .

>

> Recommended: " Toxic Parents, " " Surviving a Borderline Parent, " and

> " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (hard to find)