Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived. The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about. It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said goodbye and put the phone down quickly. I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with her for Mother's Day tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 (((((Jeanie))))) I sympathize. Its no fun to spend time with your bpd mother ( " nada " ) knowing that you're going to have to endure emotional abuse throughout the visit. The " medium chill " tactic can perhaps help you with this. Its really just allowing yourself to become emotionally distant from the situation and the individual, being polite without being truly engaging, not sharing any personal information, just minimally responsive, bland or neutral. Its a mind-set that allows you to not take the negative things she says personally. I was similarly filled with anxiety and dread last year because I had no choice but to attend an event that meant I would see my nada in person for the first time in about 2 years. I believe I went beyond " medium chill " ; I suppose I partially dissociated. I was completely detached from all emotions the entire time I was in my mother's presence. (This was my usual childhood method of coping. I call it being a " robot-zombie " kid.) It worked because she indeed did try to needle me by bringing up a subject I'd asked her many times to not mention again; nada also made several snarky, critical, provocative remarks on other topics, whined a bit, complained about how we were ignoring her, etc... but being completely emotionally detached I was able to let these manipulations slide off me without responding. I did not argue with her, correct her, or defend myself. I was able to make myself just stop caring about what she said or how she said it or how she felt, or how she acted, at least during that short visit. I didn't attack her, and I didn't let her attacks on me " get to me. " Sort of like, she was this stranger. Just an elderly lady who happened to be at this event, and she was annoying but it didn't affect me. I was polite to her the way I'd be polite to any stranger and then it was over! So, however you choose to handle the visit, know that we here understand what you're going to be enduring and we are giving you our empathy and emotional support. -Annie > > Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived. > > The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about. > > It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said goodbye and put the phone down quickly. > > I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with her for Mother's Day tomorrow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Annie, thank you so much for replying. When i read about the Medium Chill tactic, i thought it sounded great! For years i've been trying to employ this method (without having a name for it!) as being emotionally neutral is the best way of coping by far. (Though it can get a little tiring!) After reading your post i googled the term and found my way to the Voicelessness website. You're probably familiar with this already. It looks at how to deal with loved ones suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I know from all the literature i've read on bpd that the two disorders are very similar and overlap in lots of ways. My mum is definitely narcissistic, so i found this website very helpful. And the Medium Chill tactic will definitely help lots of our friends using this site. Thank you so much again for sharing this technique with me. I'll let you know how i get on tomorrow, lol! x > > > > Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived. > > > > The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about. > > > > It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said goodbye and put the phone down quickly. > > > > I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with her for Mother's Day tomorrow > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Hi I'm in UK too. Today I have decided I am doing nothing. I'm LC generally and today its no contact, no card, no phone call. It is the first year I have done this and I feel so relieved! A bit of remorse but the relief of not being around her is the stronger feeling. Good luck for your day :-) Nav > > Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived. > > The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about. > > It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said goodbye and put the phone down quickly. > > I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with her for Mother's Day tomorrow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Hope you're OK Jeanie, I guess this restaurant event happened today. *jaws music* Hugs I was also a robot-zombie kid and, truth be told, a robot-zombie kid-in-an-adults-body, too. > > > > Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived. > > > > The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about. > > > > It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said goodbye and put the phone down quickly. > > > > I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with her for Mother's Day tomorrow > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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