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Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some

flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived.

The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't

want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better

had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're

eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating

and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I

told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no

and that there's things she wants to talk to me about.

It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out

about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from

constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming

voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to

interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said

about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice

too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your

dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said

that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said

goodbye and put the phone down quickly.

I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with her

for Mother's Day tomorrow :(

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(((((Jeanie)))))

I sympathize. Its no fun to spend time with your bpd mother ( " nada " ) knowing

that you're going to have to endure emotional abuse throughout the visit.

The " medium chill " tactic can perhaps help you with this. Its really just

allowing yourself to become emotionally distant from the situation and the

individual, being polite without being truly engaging, not sharing any personal

information, just minimally responsive, bland or neutral. Its a mind-set that

allows you to not take the negative things she says personally.

I was similarly filled with anxiety and dread last year because I had no choice

but to attend an event that meant I would see my nada in person for the first

time in about 2 years.

I believe I went beyond " medium chill " ; I suppose I partially dissociated. I

was completely detached from all emotions the entire time I was in my mother's

presence. (This was my usual childhood method of coping. I call it being a

" robot-zombie " kid.)

It worked because she indeed did try to needle me by bringing up a subject I'd

asked her many times to not mention again; nada also made several snarky,

critical, provocative remarks on other topics, whined a bit, complained about

how we were ignoring her, etc... but being completely emotionally detached I

was able to let these manipulations slide off me without responding. I did not

argue with her, correct her, or defend myself.

I was able to make myself just stop caring about what she said or how she said

it or how she felt, or how she acted, at least during that short visit. I

didn't attack her, and I didn't let her attacks on me " get to me. " Sort of

like, she was this stranger. Just an elderly lady who happened to be at this

event, and she was annoying but it didn't affect me. I was polite to her the

way I'd be polite to any stranger and then it was over!

So, however you choose to handle the visit, know that we here understand what

you're going to be enduring and we are giving you our empathy and emotional

support.

-Annie

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> Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some

flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived.

>

> The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't

want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better

had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're

eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating

and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I

told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no

and that there's things she wants to talk to me about.

>

> It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out

about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from

constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming

voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to

interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said

about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice

too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your

dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said

that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said

goodbye and put the phone down quickly.

>

> I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with

her for Mother's Day tomorrow :(

>

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Annie, thank you so much for replying. When i read about the Medium Chill

tactic, i thought it sounded great! For years i've been trying to employ this

method (without having a name for it!) as being emotionally neutral is the best

way of coping by far. (Though it can get a little tiring!)

After reading your post i googled the term and found my way to the Voicelessness

website. You're probably familiar with this already. It looks at how to deal

with loved ones suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I know from

all the literature i've read on bpd that the two disorders are very similar and

overlap in lots of ways. My mum is definitely narcissistic, so i found this

website very helpful. And the Medium Chill tactic will definitely help lots of

our friends using this site.

Thank you so much again for sharing this technique with me. I'll let you know

how i get on tomorrow, lol! x

> >

> > Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some

flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived.

> >

> > The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I

didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i

better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone

" we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished

eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " .

I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said

no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about.

> >

> > It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out

about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from

constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming

voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to

interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said

about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice

too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your

dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said

that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said

goodbye and put the phone down quickly.

> >

> > I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with

her for Mother's Day tomorrow :(

> >

>

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Hi

I'm in UK too. Today I have decided I am doing nothing. I'm LC generally and

today its no contact, no card, no phone call. It is the first year I have done

this and I feel so relieved! A bit of remorse but the relief of not being around

her is the stronger feeling.

Good luck for your day

:-)

Nav

>

> Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some

flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived.

>

> The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I didn't

want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i better

had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone " we're

eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished eating

and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " . I

told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said no

and that there's things she wants to talk to me about.

>

> It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out

about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from

constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming

voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to

interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said

about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice

too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your

dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said

that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said

goodbye and put the phone down quickly.

>

> I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with

her for Mother's Day tomorrow :(

>

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Hope you're OK Jeanie, I guess this restaurant event happened today. *jaws

music*

Hugs

I was also a robot-zombie kid and, truth be told, a robot-zombie

kid-in-an-adults-body, too.

> >

> > Hi everybody, its Mother's day tomorrow here in the UK. I've sent nada some

flowers and just phoned the care home where she lives to check they've arrived.

> >

> > The carer who answered the phone asked if i'd like to speak to her. I

didn't want to as i'm gearing myself up for seeing her tomorrow, but thought i

better had. Just as predicted, nada got on the phone and said in an angry tone

" we're eating out dinner " . I told her that the carer had said they'd finished

eating and she then said " oh yes, we have, i'm just drinking my tea that's all " .

I told her to go back to her tea and that i'd see her tomorrow. She then said

no and that there's things she wants to talk to me about.

> >

> > It turns out that she's suffering from constipation and getting stressed out

about it. (Something i'm slightly sceptical about as she's always suffered from

constipation and its never worried her before!) She then said in her blaming

voice " i haven't seen you for a long time " and i repeated that i didn't want to

interrupt her meal, but the carer told me she had finished. Nada then said

about the carer " oh yes, she's very nice " , to which i replied " yes Mum, i'm nice

too - i'm phoning you up and i don't appreciate you saying you're eating your

dinner and don't want to speak to me " . She backtracked a little when i said

that and said in a pathetic voice " the flowers are lovely darlin " . I said

goodbye and put the phone down quickly.

> >

> > I'm really not looking forward to having to eat a meal in a restaurant with

her for Mother's Day tomorrow :(

> >

>

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