question about dissociation

[Guest guest]

I've been on threads on here about dissociation, and I am wondering if anyone

has any more information about dissociation. When I was on the threads about

that, I remember this word meaning not being present in a triggering moment,

completely being in Oz.

I mainly have just used the word " dissociation " but I was recently made aware of

a disorder, DID, which I am not sure what it stands for, but one " D " is

" dissociation " . Someone said that it is the same as Multiple Personality

Disorder, because another personality takes a person over. Is that true? Does

anyone know?

Does anyone have any more information? Does anyone dissociate? How would you

describe it/define it? Thanks

Walkingto.

[Guest guest]

OK...from the article at Wikipedia:

" Dissociation " is " a partial or complete disruption of the normal integration of

a person’s conscious or psychological functioning.[1] Dissociation can be a

response to trauma or drugs and perhaps allows the mind to distance itself from

experiences that are too much for the psyche to process at that time.[2]...

The DSM-IV considers symptoms such as depersonalization, derealization and

psychogenic amnesia to be core features of dissociative disorders.[21]

However, in the normal population dissociative experiences that are not

clinically significant are highly prevalent, with 60% to 65% of the respondents

indicating that they have had some dissociative experiences.[22] "

So, you are correct: there is also " Dissociative Identity Disorder " (DID) that

used to be called " Multiple Personality Disorder. "

What does dissociation feel like, how is it experienced?

According to the article I'm quoting, sometimes it is experienced as amnesia.

Sometimes as emotional " numbing. "

Sometimes dissociation is experienced as:

* " Depersonalization " : feeling that somehow you yourself are not real anymore, or

that you are watching yourself from somewhere outside your body.

* " Derealization " , which is feeling that the world around you, your surroundings

are somehow not real any longer.

I think I have experienced dissociation on a few occasions, two of them

triggered by my nada. Once when I was about 14 she was beating me with the

belt, and I was just SO outraged (I hadn't done anything wrong and she didn't

believe me) that I just stood there with my jaw clenched and it was as though my

body had turned to granite. I did not flinch, I didn't feel the belt. She hit

me until she was tired, and I just stood there. I finally turned to face her

when she'd stopped and said coldly, " Are you done? " and I stalked to my room and

slammed my door. THEN I felt it! But she never beat me with the belt again

after that.

Another time was when I as an adult observed nada treating one small child

rudely, ignoring the child's loving offer of a hug, and nada sort of pushing

past her to get to another smaller child who wasn't even aware that nada had

arrived. I saw the look of hurt and bewilderment on the child's face and

suddenly found myself outside my own body, looking down at the scene from

somewhere near the ceiling!

It didn't last long, only about 10 seconds or so, but that was... different!

-Annie

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> I've been on threads on here about dissociation, and I am wondering if anyone

has any more information about dissociation. When I was on the threads about

that, I remember this word meaning not being present in a triggering moment,

completely being in Oz.

>

> I mainly have just used the word " dissociation " but I was recently made aware

of a disorder, DID, which I am not sure what it stands for, but one " D " is

" dissociation " . Someone said that it is the same as Multiple Personality

Disorder, because another personality takes a person over. Is that true? Does

anyone know?

>

> Does anyone have any more information? Does anyone dissociate? How would you

describe it/define it? Thanks

> Walkingto.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I think we have been using the word " dissociation " on here to mean just

that, your mind goes elsewhere during a trauma so that you don't have to

experience it. But the downside is it makes you numb, emotionally numb, and you

are not experiencing life nor feelings.

I'm wondering how the psychologists go from that to a full fledged disorder,

because Multiple Personality Disorder always seemed as out there as BPD to me.

So, to rename it Dissociation Disorder makes me uncomfortable, if 60% of the

population experiences dissociation. Also, what about people with amnesia, how

would a psychologist know that was different? Maybe I'm thinking of a Hollywood

version of Multiple Personality Disorder, where separate personalities come

through the person, but isn't that what it is?

I'm sorry to read about your traumatic experiences with nada. Belt beating is

just over the top, there is no way that can be for discipline. Did you always

remember that, or did you lose the memory with the dissocation until later?

I'm also really curious where the mind goes when it checks out. How does this

ensure survival, anyway? It's counterintuitive, because there is no way to

defend the body. I know I have experienced it, and it seems like it is related

to trauma for me. But it scares me, that my mind could go away when faced with

something that is too traumatizing. I don't really dissociate anymore. The way

you describe it, I really had one time that really stands out. I think I was

using the word " dissociate " to mean " depersonalization " . That happens from time

to time; what causes that? Does anyone know more about depersonalization? Is

that also trauma related?

I'm kind of amazed that my mind has a point where it says, enough! I can't

handle this anymore, I'm checking out.

thanks

Walkingto.

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> > I've been on threads on here about dissociation, and I am wondering if

anyone has any more information about dissociation. When I was on the threads

about that, I remember this word meaning not being present in a triggering

moment, completely being in Oz.

> >

> > I mainly have just used the word " dissociation " but I was recently made

aware of a disorder, DID, which I am not sure what it stands for, but one " D " is

" dissociation " . Someone said that it is the same as Multiple Personality

Disorder, because another personality takes a person over. Is that true? Does

anyone know?

> >

> > Does anyone have any more information? Does anyone dissociate? How would

you describe it/define it? Thanks

> > Walkingto.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Walking To,

I'll reply within the text of your post:

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> > > I've been on threads on here about dissociation, and I am wondering if

anyone has any more information about dissociation. When I was on the threads

about that, I remember this word meaning not being present in a triggering

moment, completely being in Oz.

> > >

> > > I mainly have just used the word " dissociation " but I was recently made

aware of a disorder, DID, which I am not sure what it stands for, but one " D " is

" dissociation " . Someone said that it is the same as Multiple Personality

Disorder, because another personality takes a person over. Is that true? Does

anyone know?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any more information? Does anyone dissociate? How would

you describe it/define it? Thanks

> > > Walkingto.

> > >

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