Guest guest Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And while the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my dad has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the nadas I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, belittling kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out there. He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on the streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under his rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with pointy teeth. I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In some ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and break free when they grow up. I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the Queen. That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as a child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I don't have a mom and a dad like that. I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me divorce him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for forgiveness. He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, boy that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie feared losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, not because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her posession. And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I must have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that Tangled is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even knew, himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you on here. Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's getting late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it himself. However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I started reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. And I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, and then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was having to walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank goodness, it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not sure what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have to ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I shouldn't ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so much that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even after I think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long time. And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I was susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what a perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, shall we say?) DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was getting into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said that he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm afraid that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories I've forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know there's more that I can't remember. When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I felt--the body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion eventually, like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad dreams. thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would be awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get worse before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hi (((hugs))) for what you're feeling. My main worrying with therapy is once the floodgates open I wont be able cope. I'm just trying to trust the process will be worth it. In the next few weeks I am going to put a request in if I can reduce my working hours. I feel I need some more time and space to work thru this. Fingers crossed it is accepted. Hope you find whatever works for you Nav x > > I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. > > Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And while the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my dad has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the nadas I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, belittling kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out there. He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on the streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under his rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with pointy teeth. > > I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In some ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and break free when they grow up. > > I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the Queen. That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as a child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I don't have a mom and a dad like that. > > I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me divorce him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for forgiveness. He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, boy that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie feared losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, not because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her posession. And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. > > So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I must have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that Tangled is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even knew, himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you on here. > > Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's getting late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it himself. However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I started reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. And I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, and then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was having to walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank goodness, it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not sure what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. > > DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have to ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I shouldn't ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so much that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even after I think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. > > It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long time. And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I was susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what a perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, shall we say?) > > DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was getting into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said that he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm afraid that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories I've forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know there's more that I can't remember. > > When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I felt--the body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion eventually, like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad dreams. > > thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would be awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get worse before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. > > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hi Nav, Fingers crossed for you, too. Good luck ((hugs)) I'm not sure whether or not I can cope either. I know I need to, DH is insisting, but I'm just scared. Holly > > > Hi > (((hugs))) for what you're feeling. > My main worrying with therapy is once the floodgates open I wont be able > cope. I'm just trying to trust the process will be worth it. > In the next few weeks I am going to put a request in if I can reduce my > working hours. I feel I need some more time and space to work thru this. > Fingers crossed it is accepted. > > Hope you find whatever works for you > > Nav > x > > > > > > > I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. > > > > Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And while > the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my dad > has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the nadas > I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, belittling > kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out there. > He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, > I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on the > streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under his > rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with > pointy teeth. > > > > I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In some > ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type > movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and break > free when they grow up. > > > > I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the Queen. > That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as a > child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I > don't have a mom and a dad like that. > > > > I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me divorce > him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for forgiveness. > He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, boy > that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie feared > losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, not > because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her posession. > And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of > posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that > backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. > > > > So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I must > have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that Tangled > is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even knew, > himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you on > here. > > > > Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's getting > late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it himself. > However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I started > reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed > him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. And > I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, and > then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on > eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying > because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was having to > walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank goodness, > it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not sure > what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. > > > > DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have to > ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I shouldn't > ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so much > that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even after I > think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. > > > > It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long time. > And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly > triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I was > susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my > siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what a > perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, > shall we say?) > > > > DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was getting > into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said that > he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm afraid > that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and > I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories I've > forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know there's > more that I can't remember. > > > > When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some > memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I felt--the > body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the > memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more > breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion eventually, > like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad dreams. > > > > thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any > practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I > start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would be > awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get worse > before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. > > > > Holly > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Holly and Nav I understand your fears about Therapy. It is frightening. We have buried so much shit for so very long, we are afraid to take our hands off the hole. I ve spent much time in T. I ve faced the fears and hesitation. It can be so very worth it, though. Find a T that you trust, that you know to be competant and understanding. Share those fears with your T. Then let them guide you to find your way through that tangle of emotions. You think, " If I ever let go of this, the emotions will be so strong that I ll die. " Yes, they will be strong. They will match all the years of anger, and hurt, and loss, and frustrated expectation that you have endured. But you will not die. You will pass through that storm and find calmer waters on the other side. Just find a pilot to help you keep your keel even as you pass through the big waves. It is worth it. It really is. Doug > > I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. > > Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And while the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my dad has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the nadas I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, belittling kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out there. He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on the streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under his rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with pointy teeth. > > I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In some ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and break free when they grow up. > > I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the Queen. That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as a child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I don't have a mom and a dad like that. > > I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me divorce him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for forgiveness. He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, boy that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie feared losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, not because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her posession. And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. > > So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I must have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that Tangled is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even knew, himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you on here. > > Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's getting late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it himself. However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I started reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. And I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, and then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was having to walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank goodness, it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not sure what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. > > DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have to ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I shouldn't ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so much that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even after I think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. > > It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long time. And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I was susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what a perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, shall we say?) > > DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was getting into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said that he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm afraid that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories I've forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know there's more that I can't remember. > > When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I felt--the body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion eventually, like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad dreams. > > thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would be awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get worse before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. > > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks, Doug, for the words of comfort I just need to take the step forward and send the email to my T... > > > Holly and Nav > > I understand your fears about Therapy. It is frightening. We have buried so > much shit for so very long, we are afraid to take our hands off the hole. > > I ve spent much time in T. I ve faced the fears and hesitation. > > It can be so very worth it, though. > > Find a T that you trust, that you know to be competant and understanding. > Share those fears with your T. Then let them guide you to find your way > through that tangle of emotions. > > You think, " If I ever let go of this, the emotions will be so strong that > I ll die. " Yes, they will be strong. They will match all the years of > anger, and hurt, and loss, and frustrated expectation that you have endured. > > But you will not die. You will pass through that storm and find calmer > waters on the other side. Just find a pilot to help you keep your keel even > as you pass through the big waves. > > It is worth it. It really is. > > Doug > > > > > > > I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. > > > > Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And while > the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my dad > has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the nadas > I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, belittling > kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out there. > He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, > I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on the > streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under his > rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with > pointy teeth. > > > > I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In some > ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type > movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and break > free when they grow up. > > > > I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the Queen. > That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as a > child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I > don't have a mom and a dad like that. > > > > I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me divorce > him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for forgiveness. > He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, boy > that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie feared > losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, not > because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her posession. > And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of > posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that > backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. > > > > So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I must > have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that Tangled > is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even knew, > himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you on > here. > > > > Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's getting > late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it himself. > However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I started > reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed > him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. And > I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, and > then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on > eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying > because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was having to > walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank goodness, > it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not sure > what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. > > > > DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have to > ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I shouldn't > ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so much > that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even after I > think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. > > > > It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long time. > And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly > triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I was > susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my > siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what a > perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, > shall we say?) > > > > DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was getting > into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said that > he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm afraid > that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and > I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories I've > forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know there's > more that I can't remember. > > > > When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some > memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I felt--the > body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the > memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more > breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion eventually, > like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad dreams. > > > > thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any > practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I > start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would be > awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get worse > before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. > > > > Holly > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Dear Holly, Of course you're scared. Nobody wants to go in to see a counselor and relive painful memories, and have to deal with how bad it all was and how we need to do yet more miserable and painful work as a result. It ain't no picnic. It's hard work. It sux. I feel for you. Sometimes I'm glad we don't have any money, because if we did, I'd have to go. --. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks Doug I went to see my T today. I get there and I just closed down for the first 40 minutes. I was just umming and ahhing and saying 'i don't know, 'I don't feel', etc. And somewhere faintly inside me I can hear myself softly screaming 'let it out, you're hurt, you feel alone, just let it out!' I did open up a little more and shed some tears but I felt was still holding back. I do trust my T, I feel like she is on my side, rooting me on. I have another appointment booked so will go and try to let that voice speak. I'll remember this thread as well to help me along! Nav x > > > > > > I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. > > > > > > Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And while > > the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my dad > > has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the nadas > > I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, belittling > > kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out there. > > He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, > > I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on the > > streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under his > > rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with > > pointy teeth. > > > > > > I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In some > > ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type > > movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and break > > free when they grow up. > > > > > > I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the Queen. > > That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as a > > child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I > > don't have a mom and a dad like that. > > > > > > I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me divorce > > him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for forgiveness. > > He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, boy > > that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie feared > > losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, not > > because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her posession. > > And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of > > posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that > > backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. > > > > > > So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I must > > have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that Tangled > > is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even knew, > > himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you on > > here. > > > > > > Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's getting > > late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it himself. > > However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I started > > reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed > > him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. And > > I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, and > > then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on > > eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying > > because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was having to > > walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank goodness, > > it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not sure > > what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. > > > > > > DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have to > > ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I shouldn't > > ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so much > > that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even after I > > think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. > > > > > > It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long time. > > And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly > > triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I was > > susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my > > siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what a > > perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, > > shall we say?) > > > > > > DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was getting > > into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said that > > he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm afraid > > that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and > > I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories I've > > forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know there's > > more that I can't remember. > > > > > > When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some > > memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I felt--the > > body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the > > memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more > > breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion eventually, > > like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad dreams. > > > > > > thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any > > practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I > > start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would be > > awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get worse > > before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. > > > > > > Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Good for you, Nav! I still am procrastinating on emailing my T---whom I hadn't seen in over 6 months (since I got my full time job). You gave me more courage I'm similar--I just feel so bad saying " I don't remember anything " and then the stuff I do remember, I say it in a clinical, professional manner trying my best not to let my emotions loose. So, like you, I want to let that voice loose, but then that scares me still... ah well. good luck, and I'm rooting for you > > > Thanks Doug > I went to see my T today. I get there and I just closed down for the first > 40 minutes. I was just umming and ahhing and saying 'i don't know, 'I don't > feel', etc. And somewhere faintly inside me I can hear myself softly > screaming 'let it out, you're hurt, you feel alone, just let it out!' > I did open up a little more and shed some tears but I felt was still > holding back. > > I do trust my T, I feel like she is on my side, rooting me on. I have > another appointment booked so will go and try to let that voice speak. I'll > remember this thread as well to help me along! > > Nav > x > > > > > > > > > > > I had a second breakdown in as many weeks, last night. > > > > > > > > Also, last night I watched Tangled. It was a really good movie. And > while > > > the nada in the movie was definitely BPD, it wasn't quite the BPD my > dad > > > has. Very close, similar behaviors, but the nada sounds more like the > nadas > > > I hear about on here, while my fada is more of an angry, yelling, > belittling > > > kind. But yes, my fada always went on about how bad the world is out > there. > > > He used to threaten me when I got in trouble about SOMETHING, anything, > > > I-forget-what, and say if I didn't like his rules, I could go live on > the > > > streets where men would rape me. Or I could live at home and live under > his > > > rules. By gosh, that sounds just like the nada in the movie...men with > > > pointy teeth. > > > > > > > > I thought of my siblings, and wondered if they watched " Tangled. " In > some > > > ways, I hope so, and I imagine they would; it's a Disney Princess type > > > movie. I hope that they may eventually recognize the similarities, and > break > > > free when they grow up. > > > > > > > > I thought of my family--I wish I had parents like the King and the > Queen. > > > That is, I wish that I could find out i was adopted or whisked away as > a > > > child, and all I have to do is find my real parents. It hurt, because I > > > don't have a mom and a dad like that. > > > > > > > > I thought of my husband. I'm sure fada would just love to have me > divorce > > > him or come home crying that he was right all along and beg for > forgiveness. > > > He never really liked DH. He liked him, but then when we got engaged, > boy > > > that probably caused the disownment. Like how the nada in the movie > feared > > > losing Rapunzel when she fell in love. Not because she's a daughter, > not > > > because she's growing up, but because she didn't want to lose her > posession. > > > And geez, gives me new perspective. Fada probably saw me as a sort of > > > posession. And when he started losing me, he cracked down, but that > > > backfired 'cause I'm too stubborn to apologize for something imaginary. > > > > > > > > So, after the movie ended, I didn't recognize it at the time, but I > must > > > have been on edge. Triggered, unknowingly. I knew from on here that > Tangled > > > is triggering, so I thought I'd prepared myself accordingly. DH even > knew, > > > himself, 'cause I told him it was a triggering movie for so many of you > on > > > here. > > > > > > > > Anyway, DH asked if we could make smoothies. I said, sorry, it's > getting > > > late, I need to take a shower and go to bed, but he could make it > himself. > > > However, he didn't really know how. So he was disappointed. Then I > started > > > reacting to that disappointment, really sorry that I disappointed > > > him....like how I would be on edge and sad if I ever disappointed Fada. > And > > > I was bracing myself for verbal retaliation/guilt-trips, and reacted, > and > > > then he reacted logically, but I reacted even further like I was on > > > eggshells. and it just mushroomed from there. And I broke down crying > > > because I felt so horrible, because he told me it felt like he was > having to > > > walk on eggshells around me sometimes. Not all the time, thank > goodness, > > > it's just when I'm like this--in a highly-triggerable state--he's not > sure > > > what to do. Heck, I don't even know what to do. > > > > > > > > DH deserves much better than to walk on eggshells. He shouldn't have > to > > > ever be afraid of triggering me. And he felt bad because he said I > shouldn't > > > ever have to be triggered, and that it was my fada that affected me so > much > > > that sometimes I still react to people like I reacted to fada. even > after I > > > think it was 2 years of NC, I still act like I'm reacting to fada. > > > > > > > > It's like the movie put me into a state I hadn't been in for a long > time. > > > And a coworker is acting like a child at work, and I've been mildly > > > triggered by it but am managing to stay professional. Also, I think I > was > > > susceptible because my parents disowned my grandma not long ago---so my > > > siblings are up in that high tower, not allowed to be free. Geez, what > a > > > perfect storm, right? (Not to mention that my hormones are fluctuating, > > > shall we say?) > > > > > > > > DH, he's so wonderful--he said that he knew full well what he was > getting > > > into when he married me--and wanted to marry me anyway. He also said > that > > > he's insisting that I go back to counseling...but I'm afraid. A) I'm > afraid > > > that I was only making up things, that the fault lies in me alone, and > > > > I'm afraid of reliving memories. C) I'm afraid of recalling memories > I've > > > forgotten. I've forgotten so much. I remember a fair bit, but I know > there's > > > more that I can't remember. > > > > > > > > When I recall memories, I can play it in my mind. But there are some > > > memories that I can't recall the specifics, but I can recall how I > felt--the > > > body memory, if there is such thing. And it scares me. I don't want the > > > memories coming up to affect my job. And I'm afraid it will cause more > > > breakdowns. But bottling things up always leads to an explosion > eventually, > > > like last night. And it always leads to nightmares or at least bad > dreams. > > > > > > > > thanks for reading, and thanks for being here. And if you have any > > > practical advice for handling counseling sessions, especially in case I > > > start getting more nightmares, so that it won't affect work, that would > be > > > awesome. I really don't want to act triggered. I know things might get > worse > > > before it gets better with counseling, and that scares me. > > > > > > > > Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Good luck! You can do it! :-) Nav > > Good for you, Nav! I still am procrastinating on emailing my T---whom I > hadn't seen in over 6 months (since I got my full time job). > > You gave me more courage I'm similar--I just feel so bad saying " I don't > remember anything " and then the stuff I do remember, I say it in a clinical, > professional manner trying my best not to let my emotions loose. So, like > you, I want to let that voice loose, but then that scares me still... > > ah well. good luck, and I'm rooting for you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I just sent the email...crossing my fingers that she still has openings for me. > > > Good luck! You can do it! > > :-) > > Nav > > > > > > > Good for you, Nav! I still am procrastinating on emailing my T---whom I > > hadn't seen in over 6 months (since I got my full time job). > > > > You gave me more courage I'm similar--I just feel so bad saying " I > don't > > remember anything " and then the stuff I do remember, I say it in a > clinical, > > professional manner trying my best not to let my emotions loose. So, like > > you, I want to let that voice loose, but then that scares me still... > > > > ah well. good luck, and I'm rooting for you > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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