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I used to be a Dr. Phil fan, years ago, when he first made a name for himself.

But now I can barely stomach him. Has anyone else noticed that when he has a

mother daughter conflict, and the mother is obviously a nada, that he doesn't

see it? Yesterday, my husband and I watched an episode on OWN, and both of us

were just horrified that he could not see that the mother in law was BPD. It was

so obvious to my husband and I.

What was sickening, was that Dr.Phil was saying that the daughter in law should

absolutely let the mother in law be apart of the kids lives, DESPITE the lies,

and manipulation. (The son was not even on the show because he no longer wanted

to have contact with his mother, red flag maybe?) My husband made such a great

point (he had a grandmother that was the queen type) that is this mother in law

were molesting the children, then Dr. Phil would consider her an abuser, and

would advocate that the grandkids NOT see her. But it seems the good Dr. is not

able to see BPD, evident by many episodes where he misses it. And so he verbally

insults the daughter in law, saying she is abusing her power by not letting the

kids see their grandmother. Because it seems emotional and pyschological abuse

are not really abuse to Dr. Phil.

Grrrrr, he just makes me so angry. Sham on me for watching an episode when I

knew how it would turn out.

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That makes me sad, because here is an individual who is in the media daily

purporting to be a real psychologist / psychiatrist, when in fact he is just an

entertainer.

Yet he has the power to influence millions of people with his opinions because

he has media presence and has claimed " expert " status.

And if he is consistently disregarding, minimizing or trivializing

emotional/psychological abuse inflicted by personality-disordered parents on

their children, then he is actually doing a great deal of harm.

How many people's lives has he damaged by empowering and further enabling *the

abusers* in this way? I hate to think about it.

-Annie

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> I used to be a Dr. Phil fan, years ago, when he first made a name for himself.

But now I can barely stomach him. Has anyone else noticed that when he has a

mother daughter conflict, and the mother is obviously a nada, that he doesn't

see it? Yesterday, my husband and I watched an episode on OWN, and both of us

were just horrified that he could not see that the mother in law was BPD. It was

so obvious to my husband and I.

>

> What was sickening, was that Dr.Phil was saying that the daughter in law

should absolutely let the mother in law be apart of the kids lives, DESPITE the

lies, and manipulation. (The son was not even on the show because he no longer

wanted to have contact with his mother, red flag maybe?) My husband made such a

great point (he had a grandmother that was the queen type) that is this mother

in law were molesting the children, then Dr. Phil would consider her an abuser,

and would advocate that the grandkids NOT see her. But it seems the good Dr. is

not able to see BPD, evident by many episodes where he misses it. And so he

verbally insults the daughter in law, saying she is abusing her power by not

letting the kids see their grandmother. Because it seems emotional and

pyschological abuse are not really abuse to Dr. Phil.

>

> Grrrrr, he just makes me so angry. Sham on me for watching an episode when I

knew how it would turn out.

>

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My impression of Dr Phil is that he has a group of patterns he

likes to fit complaints into. Those patterns fit the agenda that

he is pushing. I don't think the possibility of a mother or

grandmother being a nada enters the picture on his show.

I try not to watch his show, but sometimes it is unavoidable. I

was forced to hear it while in a waiting room a while back and

his attitude disgusted me. That particular show featured a

family with two misbehaving daughters. Dr Phil wanted had

previously recommended that they go to a specific boarding

school and the father questioned whether that was the right

choice. Dr Phil reminded me of a fada in his reaction. His

attitude was pretty much " I'm right, you're wrong, how dare you

question me? " He may have been right, but he shouldn't have been

so down on the father for questioning his opinion and wanting to

be sure he was making the best choice for his daughters. I have

problems with anyone who portrays themselves as being the source

of " the one true correct answer " for things that aren't factual.

At 08:44 AM 04/19/2011 phoenixmommyof2 wrote:

>I used to be a Dr. Phil fan, years ago, when he first made a

>name for himself. But now I can barely stomach him. Has anyone

>else noticed that when he has a mother daughter conflict, and

>the mother is obviously a nada, that he doesn't see it?

>Yesterday, my husband and I watched an episode on OWN, and both

>of us were just horrified that he could not see that the mother

>in law was BPD. It was so obvious to my husband and I.

>

>What was sickening, was that Dr.Phil was saying that the

>daughter in law should absolutely let the mother in law be

>apart of the kids lives, DESPITE the lies, and manipulation.

>(The son was not even on the show because he no longer wanted

>to have contact with his mother, red flag maybe?) My husband

>made such a great point (he had a grandmother that was the

>queen type) that is this mother in law were molesting the

>children, then Dr. Phil would consider her an abuser, and would

>advocate that the grandkids NOT see her. But it seems the good

>Dr. is not able to see BPD, evident by many episodes where he

>misses it. And so he verbally insults the daughter in law,

>saying she is abusing her power by not letting the kids see

>their grandmother. Because it seems emotional and pyschological

>abuse are not really abuse to Dr. Phil.

>

>Grrrrr, he just makes me so angry. Sham on me for watching an

>episode when I knew how it would turn out.

--

Katrina

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I knew a girl who saw a therapist. (Very vague, I know.) Oprah had asked her

therapist if he would like to have the slot of talk show host/therapist. He

declined as he said it was an unrealistic expectation for somebody to make a

professional diagnosis with a clip of said patient.

The position was later offered to (and obviously accepted by) Dr. Phil.

I would just keep his opinions in perspective as Dr. Phil is someone without

formal education, who bases his opinions on video segments.

Though, I completely empathize with your frustration about a media figure doling

out " expert " testimonials...

-K

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> I used to be a Dr. Phil fan, years ago, when he first made a name for himself.

But now I can barely stomach him. Has anyone else noticed that when he has a

mother daughter conflict, and the mother is obviously a nada, that he doesn't

see it? Yesterday, my husband and I watched an episode on OWN, and both of us

were just horrified that he could not see that the mother in law was BPD. It was

so obvious to my husband and I.

>

> What was sickening, was that Dr.Phil was saying that the daughter in law

should absolutely let the mother in law be apart of the kids lives, DESPITE the

lies, and manipulation. (The son was not even on the show because he no longer

wanted to have contact with his mother, red flag maybe?) My husband made such a

great point (he had a grandmother that was the queen type) that is this mother

in law were molesting the children, then Dr. Phil would consider her an abuser,

and would advocate that the grandkids NOT see her. But it seems the good Dr. is

not able to see BPD, evident by many episodes where he misses it. And so he

verbally insults the daughter in law, saying she is abusing her power by not

letting the kids see their grandmother. Because it seems emotional and

pyschological abuse are not really abuse to Dr. Phil.

>

> Grrrrr, he just makes me so angry. Sham on me for watching an episode when I

knew how it would turn out.

>

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Remember in Phil McGraw s own words, he gave up the practice of psychology.

California doesn t require him to have a license, because he is an entertainer ,

not a psychologist.

He has had a number of controversies, inappropriate contact and relationships

with a former patient, shady business dealings, bailing out a teen girl who beat

up another girl, as part of a mob of 8 girls who beat the victim, so he could

interview her on his show, some questionable wieght loss techniques.

He had some difficulty getting through his Phd due to conflicts with faculty.

His MA was in " experimental psychology " , whatever that may be.

He does not treat patients, for which disturbed people may be grateful. If you

think of Phil as Jerry Springer with a degree, you will be closer to the mark.

He does it for hype and entertainment and the big paycheck he gets. He is not

concerned with whether people get better.

I have not been a fan, and have never had any use for him, by way of disclaimer.

I think he is an opportunistic quack, who does more harm than good. He is worse

than the misinformed therapist who gives bad advice to a patient. Many people

watch him, and hear Dr Phil and think, Oh, this must be a psychologist. He does

not carefully say, I m not one anymore, so take this with a grain of salt, it is

just my opinion. So people thing what he says has merit.

He is, IMHO, an asshole.

Doug

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On my! I have had these same thoughts. I watch his show sometimes and I

cannot believe the attitude he takes towards these poor people. I saw one

where a mother was surely a nada and the daughter set a calm, clear boundary

when the nada kept interrupting her. Dr. Phil called her " snotty " for

setting a boundary. That was so very triggering for me. How dare a

supposed expert who should know better use name calling as a tactic.

BB

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