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Even though fada definitely has abandonment fears, he's very supportive of me

spending time with friends and knowing more about my friends (or so it seems).

It's just really confusing when I get two different messages: I am changing jobs

soon, so this week is full of good-byes and spending time with friends in my

soon-to-be-old neighborhood. Fada knows I will be very busy these next few days,

and is happy that I will get to spend time with friends even though so much is

happening with the big move. Yet, when I don't call tonight (it was under 24hrs

since I last called him) I get a nasty email asking if my phone is broken or if

I am " avoiding " him. He clearly knows I am busy and was supportive of me being

with friends just a day ago!

I did end up calling and the call went smoothly. He talked as if he had never

sent that email to me!

How should I respond when this happens again? I just don't know how to handle

the two conflicting messages (I know you are busy with friends vs. make sure you

call us often) without feeling guilty or making our relationship seem super

tense.

Anyone have any good tips or resources on the sticky communication issues?

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My suggestion is to start reading up about borderline pd behaviors so that you

can take fada's controlling, demanding, manipulative behaviors less personally

( " Surviving A Borderline Parent " ), start reading up about how to set healthy

adult boundaries for yourself ( " Boundaries " , " Stop Walking On Eggshells " ) and

reading up about overcoming co-dependency, which is feeling inappropriately

responsible for another adult's feelings ( " Co-Dependent No More " .) There are

other good books about these subjects in the reading list section at

BPDCentral.com.

As an adult its not your job to be responsible for fada's fears or to cater to

his excessive need for attention from you.

If fada is demanding something like a " report " from you every 24 hours *and if

you're allowing this*, then, frankly, that sounds kind of overly-enmeshed to me:

an unhealthy over-involvement with each other.

If you were dating a guy and you found out that he felt compelled to phone his

mommy every day and tell her everything he did, including stuff he did with you,

would you respect him as an adult male? As self-supporting, responsible adults

*we are entitled to respect from our parents and we are entitled to adult

privacy.*

A possible example of the way this could work:

You phone fada on Sunday (your once-a-week call, because you decided once a day

is too much) and fada sounds tense and irritable with you. Perhaps he's angry

at you for cutting back to once a week, but he refuses to discuss this with you

directly, as one adult to another; instead he's acting hurt, like a wounded

child. You make the effort to initiate a normal, pleasant conversation with him

anyway. But he continues sounding terse (he wants you to feel guilty for

hurting his feelings, apologize and beg for forgiveness) so you remain calm and

polite, and just say something like, " Well, I sense (or I can hear) that you're

upset now, so, I'll talk to you again next week; I hope you're feeling better

then. It was nice talking with you. Love ya! 'bye! "

In other words, you no longer cater to his attempts at manipulating you. You no

longer apologize for simply being an adult with her own life. So if fada is

going to blow his weekly phone call with you by being a pouty child, then, he's

choosing to have a very short conversation with you. He's an adult, that's his

choice.

But, YOU have to figure out what works for *you*, in your own individual

situation.

You can do that when you're not held back by the false belief that just setting

reasonable adult boundaries for yourself makes you a bad person or a bad

daughter. Just asking for the simple basic respect that you deserve as an adult

is *normal and reasonable* and there is no guilt involved.

In my opinion.

-Annie

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> Even though fada definitely has abandonment fears, he's very supportive of me

spending time with friends and knowing more about my friends (or so it seems).

It's just really confusing when I get two different messages: I am changing jobs

soon, so this week is full of good-byes and spending time with friends in my

soon-to-be-old neighborhood. Fada knows I will be very busy these next few days,

and is happy that I will get to spend time with friends even though so much is

happening with the big move. Yet, when I don't call tonight (it was under 24hrs

since I last called him) I get a nasty email asking if my phone is broken or if

I am " avoiding " him. He clearly knows I am busy and was supportive of me being

with friends just a day ago!

>

> I did end up calling and the call went smoothly. He talked as if he had never

sent that email to me!

>

> How should I respond when this happens again? I just don't know how to handle

the two conflicting messages (I know you are busy with friends vs. make sure you

call us often) without feeling guilty or making our relationship seem super

tense.

>

> Anyone have any good tips or resources on the sticky communication issues?

>

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Hi Mike,

My Fada and I have been thru many diffrent lengths of time of NC. Sometimes 3-6

months. Sometimes 2 years, more recently 15 years. Each time it does end in a

emotional event (In my case the death of a grandparent). I can almost count on

it. As you can see in other posts I am in the beginnings of a 'reconsileation'

at this time. In my experience the NC will range thu all kinds of BP types. I

wish you luck.

-Laurie

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> I haven't spoken to my mother in 4 months by my choice. Yet, she

> hasn't made any attempt to speake to me either. Since I'm new here is

> her not contacting me part of bpd behavior (queen, witch, etc.)?

> Thanks for everyone's input.

>

> Mike

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it is failry normal. The first 6 months were the hardest for me. I just hit my

one year mark and that was tough too. It always going to be tough when you take

the blindfolds off and start to see the world through your own eyes instead of

nada's and fada's. She probably hasnt made any attempt because she is blaming

you for her actions. (typical nada behavior). I dont know her, but if she is

like our nadas, you can expect a phone call soon to ask why you havent called

and kissed her ass. Bottom line: you will hear from her eventually. :(

AJ

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> > I haven't spoken to my mother in 4 months by my choice. Yet, she

> > hasn't made any attempt to speake to me either. Since I'm new here is

> > her not contacting me part of bpd behavior (queen, witch, etc.)?

> > Thanks for everyone's input.

> >

> > Mike

> >

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