Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 First I want to say that this weekend I said NO (for the first time) to one of my mom's famous manipulation tactics. She lives 35 miles from me and often calls me while driving in her car saying she is half way to my house and is it ok if she drops in. I usually fear her getting upset, feel guilty that she has already traveled half way, and then feel obligated to let her come even if it isn't a good time for us. She pulled that on Saturday and I was so proud of myself that I said " I'm sorry, I really wish we could visit but this is not a good time. We already have plans. Maybe another day " . She was upset but it felt so good to say no. Then over the course of the weekend, I ended up texting some to her sisters (my aunts) because of the tornadoes we had here in the south and both of them at separate times asked me to please call them. Which was odd because we don't usually interact outside of holidays. I know them well enough to know they are not and would not be flying monkeys so I talked to one of my aunts this morning. Apparently, since I have been setting hard boundaries with my mom, she has made her sisters her new dumping ground. She verbally vomits on them about me on a regular basis now and they are the ones catching the brunt of her emotional outbursts and hysterical crying. I really hate it for them but recommended she read SWOE. The interesting thing is I guess they've never opened up to me about my mom before because.....well, they respect she's my mom and didn't want to talk to me about her in that way. My aunts are very simple people, very smart, just very simple white collar folks. My aunt said she was sick of my mom blaming everyone for her problems, playing the victim, and always wanting to find someone to rescue. I just listened to her talk and thought - you don't have to read books and be a psychologist to diagnose BPD! You hit the nail on the head dear. I mentioned BPD to her and she said " Honey, she's got something. This isn't normal " . It felt so good to be reassured I am not the crazy one. I feel like I'm finally on the right path. Thank God. Also learned an old acquaintance of mine has a BPD mom and she gave me the name of her T, who uses a sliding payment scale and maybe I can afford to see him! Thanks for listening. Needed to share and you guys would " get " my mini celebration. :-) Fredia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Yay for sliding scale Ts! I'm fortunate to have a health insurance plan that covers counseling very well, and then my T said that they can do sliding scale for what insurance doesn't cover. I also have old family friends who are like aunts and grandparents who are sorta opening up to me about my family--they're so supportive and for that I'm thankful. I had some flying monkey relatives, but I limit contact. One flying monkey was brought to reality after my grandma (family friend) got disowned too....I should email her and see what she thinks, one of these days. it feels so good to be validated this way > > > First I want to say that this weekend I said NO (for the first time) to > one of my mom's famous manipulation tactics. She lives 35 miles from me > and often calls me while driving in her car saying she is half way to my > house and is it ok if she drops in. I usually fear her getting upset, > feel guilty that she has already traveled half way, and then feel > obligated to let her come even if it isn't a good time for us. > She pulled that on Saturday and I was so proud of myself that I said > " I'm sorry, I really wish we could visit but this is not a good time. We > already have plans. Maybe another day " . She was upset but it felt so > good to say no. > > Then over the course of the weekend, I ended up texting some to her > sisters (my aunts) because of the tornadoes we had here in the south and > both of them at separate times asked me to please call them. Which was > odd because we don't usually interact outside of holidays. I know them > well enough to know they are not and would not be flying monkeys so I > talked to one of my aunts this morning. > > Apparently, since I have been setting hard boundaries with my mom, she > has made her sisters her new dumping ground. She verbally vomits on them > about me on a regular basis now and they are the ones catching the brunt > of her emotional outbursts and hysterical crying. I really hate it for > them but recommended she read SWOE. > The interesting thing is I guess they've never opened up to me about my > mom before because.....well, they respect she's my mom and didn't want > to talk to me about her in that way. My aunts are very simple people, > very smart, just very simple white collar folks. My aunt said she was > sick of my mom blaming everyone for her problems, playing the victim, > and always wanting to find someone to rescue. I just listened to her > talk and thought - you don't have to read books and be a psychologist to > diagnose BPD! You hit the nail on the head dear. I mentioned BPD to her > and she said " Honey, she's got something. This isn't normal " . > > It felt so good to be reassured I am not the crazy one. I feel like I'm > finally on the right path. Thank God. > > Also learned an old acquaintance of mine has a BPD mom and she gave me > the name of her T, who uses a sliding payment scale and maybe I can > afford to see him! > > Thanks for listening. Needed to share and you guys would " get " my mini > celebration. :-) > > Fredia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 That's so great that you got validation RE your nada's behaviors not being normal, from your aunts! It truly is like a heavy weight lifted off your shoulders to get that kind of validation. And good for you for having the courage to stick by your boundaries. Big thumbs up of encouragement from me! -Annie > > First I want to say that this weekend I said NO (for the first time) to > one of my mom's famous manipulation tactics. She lives 35 miles from me > and often calls me while driving in her car saying she is half way to my > house and is it ok if she drops in. I usually fear her getting upset, > feel guilty that she has already traveled half way, and then feel > obligated to let her come even if it isn't a good time for us. > She pulled that on Saturday and I was so proud of myself that I said > " I'm sorry, I really wish we could visit but this is not a good time. We > already have plans. Maybe another day " . She was upset but it felt so > good to say no. > > Then over the course of the weekend, I ended up texting some to her > sisters (my aunts) because of the tornadoes we had here in the south and > both of them at separate times asked me to please call them. Which was > odd because we don't usually interact outside of holidays. I know them > well enough to know they are not and would not be flying monkeys so I > talked to one of my aunts this morning. > > Apparently, since I have been setting hard boundaries with my mom, she > has made her sisters her new dumping ground. She verbally vomits on them > about me on a regular basis now and they are the ones catching the brunt > of her emotional outbursts and hysterical crying. I really hate it for > them but recommended she read SWOE. > The interesting thing is I guess they've never opened up to me about my > mom before because.....well, they respect she's my mom and didn't want > to talk to me about her in that way. My aunts are very simple people, > very smart, just very simple white collar folks. My aunt said she was > sick of my mom blaming everyone for her problems, playing the victim, > and always wanting to find someone to rescue. I just listened to her > talk and thought - you don't have to read books and be a psychologist to > diagnose BPD! You hit the nail on the head dear. I mentioned BPD to her > and she said " Honey, she's got something. This isn't normal " . > > It felt so good to be reassured I am not the crazy one. I feel like I'm > finally on the right path. Thank God. > > Also learned an old acquaintance of mine has a BPD mom and she gave me > the name of her T, who uses a sliding payment scale and maybe I can > afford to see him! > > Thanks for listening. Needed to share and you guys would " get " my mini > celebration. :-) > > Fredia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 .....aaaand as soon as I brag, my mom calls and stirs a drama with me today. I said 3 times " I will not discuss this with you any further " and she kept on and on and I finally hung up on her. Shaking. God, I hate this feeling. Just when I think I'm getting a leg up, wham, I get it in the face. I know, baby steps of progress at a time..... > > > > First I want to say that this weekend I said NO (for the first time) to > > one of my mom's famous manipulation tactics. She lives 35 miles from me > > and often calls me while driving in her car saying she is half way to my > > house and is it ok if she drops in. I usually fear her getting upset, > > feel guilty that she has already traveled half way, and then feel > > obligated to let her come even if it isn't a good time for us. > > She pulled that on Saturday and I was so proud of myself that I said > > " I'm sorry, I really wish we could visit but this is not a good time. We > > already have plans. Maybe another day " . She was upset but it felt so > > good to say no. > > > > Then over the course of the weekend, I ended up texting some to her > > sisters (my aunts) because of the tornadoes we had here in the south and > > both of them at separate times asked me to please call them. Which was > > odd because we don't usually interact outside of holidays. I know them > > well enough to know they are not and would not be flying monkeys so I > > talked to one of my aunts this morning. > > > > Apparently, since I have been setting hard boundaries with my mom, she > > has made her sisters her new dumping ground. She verbally vomits on them > > about me on a regular basis now and they are the ones catching the brunt > > of her emotional outbursts and hysterical crying. I really hate it for > > them but recommended she read SWOE. > > The interesting thing is I guess they've never opened up to me about my > > mom before because.....well, they respect she's my mom and didn't want > > to talk to me about her in that way. My aunts are very simple people, > > very smart, just very simple white collar folks. My aunt said she was > > sick of my mom blaming everyone for her problems, playing the victim, > > and always wanting to find someone to rescue. I just listened to her > > talk and thought - you don't have to read books and be a psychologist to > > diagnose BPD! You hit the nail on the head dear. I mentioned BPD to her > > and she said " Honey, she's got something. This isn't normal " . > > > > It felt so good to be reassured I am not the crazy one. I feel like I'm > > finally on the right path. Thank God. > > > > Also learned an old acquaintance of mine has a BPD mom and she gave me > > the name of her T, who uses a sliding payment scale and maybe I can > > afford to see him! > > > > Thanks for listening. Needed to share and you guys would " get " my mini > > celebration. :-) > > > > Fredia > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Yep, nadas do tend to blindside you when you're not expecting it. Good for you for holding to your boundaries anyway! That was awesome, and you did it just right: " I'm not going to discuss this with you. " then if she persists, " I'm hanging up now. " You get a gold star, that was wonderful! And it does get easier with time, you'll discover that you won't be shaking nearly so much the next time, and even less the time after that, I'm betting. Yes, baby-steps! Now go do something nice and soothing for yourself, you deserve it! -Annie > > > > > > First I want to say that this weekend I said NO (for the first time) to > > > one of my mom's famous manipulation tactics. She lives 35 miles from me > > > and often calls me while driving in her car saying she is half way to my > > > house and is it ok if she drops in. I usually fear her getting upset, > > > feel guilty that she has already traveled half way, and then feel > > > obligated to let her come even if it isn't a good time for us. > > > She pulled that on Saturday and I was so proud of myself that I said > > > " I'm sorry, I really wish we could visit but this is not a good time. We > > > already have plans. Maybe another day " . She was upset but it felt so > > > good to say no. > > > > > > Then over the course of the weekend, I ended up texting some to her > > > sisters (my aunts) because of the tornadoes we had here in the south and > > > both of them at separate times asked me to please call them. Which was > > > odd because we don't usually interact outside of holidays. I know them > > > well enough to know they are not and would not be flying monkeys so I > > > talked to one of my aunts this morning. > > > > > > Apparently, since I have been setting hard boundaries with my mom, she > > > has made her sisters her new dumping ground. She verbally vomits on them > > > about me on a regular basis now and they are the ones catching the brunt > > > of her emotional outbursts and hysterical crying. I really hate it for > > > them but recommended she read SWOE. > > > The interesting thing is I guess they've never opened up to me about my > > > mom before because.....well, they respect she's my mom and didn't want > > > to talk to me about her in that way. My aunts are very simple people, > > > very smart, just very simple white collar folks. My aunt said she was > > > sick of my mom blaming everyone for her problems, playing the victim, > > > and always wanting to find someone to rescue. I just listened to her > > > talk and thought - you don't have to read books and be a psychologist to > > > diagnose BPD! You hit the nail on the head dear. I mentioned BPD to her > > > and she said " Honey, she's got something. This isn't normal " . > > > > > > It felt so good to be reassured I am not the crazy one. I feel like I'm > > > finally on the right path. Thank God. > > > > > > Also learned an old acquaintance of mine has a BPD mom and she gave me > > > the name of her T, who uses a sliding payment scale and maybe I can > > > afford to see him! > > > > > > Thanks for listening. Needed to share and you guys would " get " my mini > > > celebration. :-) > > > > > > Fredia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 wow! Firstly good for you for saying no! Way to go.... Secondly, its so good to have that confirmation Grins and hugs from here SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 You're definatley not hte only one, I got into contact with nada's sisters about 5 years ago and two of them didn't want anythign to do with her, the other one did, but they all agreed she wasn't right in the head, they called her an abboration, however I think the one who did is kinda off herself as I set sonme boundaries with other people snd she flew off the handle and has refused to talk to me which is fine by me. Lert's say she got in with nada's crowd and opted to believe nada's monkeys rather than some common sense. proflaf1 Subject: Re: Nada's siblings opening up to me - I'm not alone! To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 4:28 PM  Yep, nadas do tend to blindside you when you're not expecting it. Good for you for holding to your boundaries anyway! That was awesome, and you did it just right: " I'm not going to discuss this with you. " then if she persists, " I'm hanging up now. " You get a gold star, that was wonderful! And it does get easier with time, you'll discover that you won't be shaking nearly so much the next time, and even less the time after that, I'm betting. Yes, baby-steps! Now go do something nice and soothing for yourself, you deserve it! -Annie > > > > > > First I want to say that this weekend I said NO (for the first time) to > > > one of my mom's famous manipulation tactics. She lives 35 miles from me > > > and often calls me while driving in her car saying she is half way to my > > > house and is it ok if she drops in. I usually fear her getting upset, > > > feel guilty that she has already traveled half way, and then feel > > > obligated to let her come even if it isn't a good time for us. > > > She pulled that on Saturday and I was so proud of myself that I said > > > " I'm sorry, I really wish we could visit but this is not a good time. We > > > already have plans. Maybe another day " . She was upset but it felt so > > > good to say no. > > > > > > Then over the course of the weekend, I ended up texting some to her > > > sisters (my aunts) because of the tornadoes we had here in the south and > > > both of them at separate times asked me to please call them. Which was > > > odd because we don't usually interact outside of holidays. I know them > > > well enough to know they are not and would not be flying monkeys so I > > > talked to one of my aunts this morning. > > > > > > Apparently, since I have been setting hard boundaries with my mom, she > > > has made her sisters her new dumping ground. She verbally vomits on them > > > about me on a regular basis now and they are the ones catching the brunt > > > of her emotional outbursts and hysterical crying. I really hate it for > > > them but recommended she read SWOE. > > > The interesting thing is I guess they've never opened up to me about my > > > mom before because.....well, they respect she's my mom and didn't want > > > to talk to me about her in that way. My aunts are very simple people, > > > very smart, just very simple white collar folks. My aunt said she was > > > sick of my mom blaming everyone for her problems, playing the victim, > > > and always wanting to find someone to rescue. I just listened to her > > > talk and thought - you don't have to read books and be a psychologist to > > > diagnose BPD! You hit the nail on the head dear. I mentioned BPD to her > > > and she said " Honey, she's got something. This isn't normal " . > > > > > > It felt so good to be reassured I am not the crazy one. I feel like I'm > > > finally on the right path. Thank God. > > > > > > Also learned an old acquaintance of mine has a BPD mom and she gave me > > > the name of her T, who uses a sliding payment scale and maybe I can > > > afford to see him! > > > > > > Thanks for listening. Needed to share and you guys would " get " my mini > > > celebration. :-) > > > > > > Fredia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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