Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 My Sister had that fear, but she wanted to be a mother even more strongly so she overcame her fear and she tried really hard to NOT be like our nada. Of course nobody is the " perfect " mother, but being a " good enough " mother is very doable, according to my Sister, who in my opinion was much better than average. Maybe you can use my Sister's technique, which was to use our mom as a " negative example. " Sister said she tried to avoid doing the things to her son that our mother did to us, and in addition, Sister tried to pattern herself after a neighbor lady who was a calm, sweet, gentle, patient soul *who actually liked children*, and who looked after my Sister in the afternoons for a few years when mom went back to work. Plus, some psychological therapy can help with fears and anxieties, and help you learn to self-monitor and self-soothe and ground yourself when you're feeling stressed. Taking parenting classes can help you feel more reassured and self-confident. And spending time with babies and infants and children NOW, before you get pregnant and your hormones go haywire: make it a point to babysit with infants, preschoolers, and older kids; see how you are with them, how they react to you, and notice where your strengths and weaknesses are. Go for it! You'll be a good mom, because you have human empathy and know what its like to suffer and endure a bad mom. -Annie > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Dear Mickie, I often say that the one group of people who can get some benefit from this BPD horror are the grandkids - what makes me a better parent to my kids is not only knowing what right/good things to do, but also what NOT to do (thanks to my mother and her BPD). Having suffered through a childhood terrorized by BPD has made me much more attuned to my children's emotional needs. It has given me a wider and deeper perspective into the ways in which children's psyches and egos can be hurt or damaged. It has given me the single-minded determination to make sure that my children KNOW beyond the shadow of doubt that they are unconditionally, unequivocally, completely and utterly loved and cherished every single day. There is no such thing as a perfect parent. Parenting is hard, and hard work. We all make mistakes sometimes. We don't always know what the right decision may be in a given situation, but we try our best. The most important things that children need are love, support, encouragement, reassurance, security and stability. If you can provide those on a daily basis - you are doing a fantastic job of parenting. Don't be afraid of motherhood. Don't think of your past as an anchor that will sink you or your children, but treat it as a tool that will help you avoid bad parenting. I wish you the best of luck on this journey to motherhood. May a wonderful healthy baby start growing in your loving belly very soon! Arianna > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 (((Mickie))) I think just the fact that you're concerned about it shows how marvelous of a mom you will be. I'm with you, though; I have 2 kids (1 teen 1 grade schooler) and am hyper vigilant about how I react to things. Sometimes I respond in ways that make me freak and wonder if I'm like my mother. But I apologize if I need to and take them out for dinner to talk, whatever it takes to connect with them. I wish you the very best!!! Fiona > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Mickie, I am sure every one of us KO's have had the same agonizing fears. So fearful in fact, I am sure I never would have chosen to get pregnant the first time. Thank God for surprises. I was 2 days away from giving birth and still so unsure. Do what I did: the fleas emerged when my daughter was about 2, this led me into therapy, where I found out me child wasn't acting like my mother: my mother was acting like a 2 year old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Your fear is your best friend in this case. I am expecting #3, and can tell you from experience. I thank Gd every day that I am a functioning mom and working hard to be the best I can. For sure using " neg example " works but also I find I naturally do things differently because I am normally or " try to be "  Not that they dont trigger me occasionaly however I am not a nada, and it doesnt sound like you will be either. As I said, the fact that you are scared is a GOOD thing.  Best of luck SK Subject: Becoming a Mother and the fear of being like my BPD Mom To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 6:39 PM  My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I can so relate to your fears, Mickie. My husband and I have been trying for years to have a child as well and my biggest fear is to end up like my nada. I agree with everyone here who alluded to the fact that, because you are fearful, that it alone will make you a better mom. I use several examples from friends who are parents as well to see positive examples of how to parent (because we all know that we have the negative examples!). For me, it helped when my nieces were born and I spent a lot of time with them. It helped me become patient and understanding and most of all, allow them to be themselves and not stifle their growth. I compliment them all the time and tell them how beautiful they are and how lucky they are. I never talk about my weight or any negativity around them. I am very conscious of how I come off to them. You will be a great mom. AJ > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Mickie - I am the mother of a precious 3 year old daughter. I, too, was worried I would screw her up like my parents did me. But I will echo the previous reply that the fear alone will motivate you to rise above your parents. I read every book I can find on gentle parenting. About what REAL parents are like. I read parenting forums constantly. I knew before I conceived I watned to parent differently and did not have that exemplified to me and that I needed to equip myself with knowledge. I started seeking out friends who had normal, balanced home lives and who were committed to raising their children in a respectable way and I have gleaned from them. They are the ones I call when I need advice. You will do fine. I just had this exact conversation with my therapist today (first visit) and as we were talking, he smiled and said " What's your favorite thing to do with your daughter? " . And without blinking, I said " My favorite thing is when I play with her in her room, and watch her imagination go wild and let her come up with all sorts of hilarious and random pretend scenarios and I go along with whatever she does. " He smiled, and looked at me and said " I want you to think about what you just said for a minute.....and I want you to think about your own relationship with your mother and how what you just said is the exact opposite of what your mother did with you. You are NOT like your mom. You are different. You are parenting differently. " I cried. Sometimes I reason that if I had to be the one to suffer so that my daughter could be the one who didn't have to, then so be it. Hang in there. Much love to you. Check out naprotechnology.com before you do IVF. Awesome fertility clinic, research based. My husband and I are currently receiving treatment based on it. > > > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hi, Don't let your nada rob you of the joy of parenting. They take so much from us-don't let her have that too. I was terrified too, and becoming a parent is the happiest best thing I've ever done. (Of course there are moments of doubt and exhaustion too but these are worth it). It is so wonderful to give to a little person who gives so much love in return. > > > > > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Dear Mickie, Forget the BPD - ya right - huh? I too had a lot of trouble conceiving and I/we went thru IVF several times. Despite this all, what I think matters most? Is: DO NOT LET FEAR DICTATE YOUR CHOICES IN LIFE/BEING A MOM becoming a parent is tough and lord knows we all suffer in someway - but if you are willing to really take on the job or being a parent, it's the best damn choice you can ever, ever, make (rich or poor no difference)! It's a chance to START FRESH! It's a chance to have your very own " GOOD, CLEAN, HONEST, COMMUNICATIVE, AND LOVING FAMILY " ! Do it girl! I cannot stress enough how full filling it is to be a MOM! If you cannot conceive please do not fear adoption! Do not worry Girl! You can and will be so much better than your NADA! It took me forever and ever to be a MOM and my NADA went absolutely friggin nuts once I became a MOM! Why? BC I could no longer be her very own indentured servant! I fought through it bc nothing is better than finally allowing someone else (your kid/kids) to come first before the NADA! Having " your very own family " and just being " you " is better than anything in this lifetime. No matter how you slice it, dissing the NADA who screwed all of us (with a BPD NADA) out of a real childhood is worth a lifetime of suffering! Just being a parent, being married to a good (or one you think is good) mate and just being a really great MOM is better than anything on earth! For once something TRUMPS the BPD bullcrap. You will be tired with the feedings, tired when you can't work as much as you want, tired when you cannot clean the house like you want to. BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT! I won't lie, It ain't all sugar and roses! It's not fun at times when we must fight our disgustingly selfish NADA from taking more, whilst still trying to attend to our responsibilities as Full Time parents, hold FT or PT job, paying our mortgage/overdue bills, not to mention dealing with all of life's " other issues " on top of it all! Yes as parents/adults we must give up ourselves (big time) to be good parents/mates - too it's tough for sure! But I would crawl on glass for my kid/DH and I want more kids to boot! I cannot conceive anymore but it's my goal to foster and adopt! I love to give kids a " chance " and I think as the children of BPD NADA's we can deal with anything! My goal in life is to get a big ole home, and take in as many unloved/abandoned kids as I can! They deserve it and I can handle it! Just FYI - I am not the frumpy type. Not that it matters really, but I haven't given up on " me " . I am not one to let the grey show, not one to let too long a time go to have my hair done, not one to let my nails/toe nails go! I love to " look good " I love to " get smarter and smarter " I am very competitive and love to work hard - but I truly believe that I can thank my BPD NADA - for this insistant nature I possess! I was picked on (and still am) no matter how well I did in life. I could make all A's, make a good career etc... but my NADA tells me how dumb I am, how she is embarrassed by me! It makes me better bc my husband loves me and I am learning to love " me " . Please either have yourself a baby- if you can't - don't fear adoption, and get on with " your life " DO IT NOW GIRL! Screw the bitch who messed with you! You are older now! Get on with YOU/YOUR HUBBY/LIFE! I did and I am so much better OFF! Keep on Going! We all support You and Know the Pain it is You Suffer! EM > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 OMG! Yes my NADA IS MORE OF A BABY THAN MY BABY WAS AT 2! Nothing taught me more about BPD than to come to the CLEAR AND CONCISE CONCLUSION THAT MY 2 YEAR OLD AND MY NADA WERE AS EMOTIONALLY MATURE AS ONE ANOTHER! The thing is, now my daughter is 4 years of age and much, much more emotionally capable/mature than my NADA! It's so sad, so depressing, so draining, they don't do anything for us, they hurt us etc.. but our kids are so much BETTER! I thank GOD DAILY FOR MY CHILD! God Bless, You Go Good Girl! EM > > > Mickie, > I am sure every one of us KO's have had the same agonizing fears. So fearful in fact, I am sure I never would have chosen to get pregnant the first time. Thank God for surprises. > > I was 2 days away from giving birth and still so unsure. > > Do what I did: the fleas emerged when my daughter was about 2, this led me into therapy, where I found out me child wasn't acting like my mother: my mother was acting like a 2 year old! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Amen, Sister! > Nothing taught me more about BPD than to come to the CLEAR AND CONCISE CONCLUSION THAT MY 2 YEAR OLD AND MY NADA WERE AS EMOTIONALLY MATURE AS ONE ANOTHER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 We have no evolutionary, survival-based construct for wrapping our minds around the idea of a physical adult with a normal, age -appropriate IQ... who is operating at a two-year-old's level of emotional development. If an adult has a normal IQ, we *expect* him or her to have a normal adult's level of emotional development as well; evolution-wise, those two types of development go hand in hand. We easily recognize when a person is intellectually impaired because she can't use words easily to communicate with us, she can't take care of preparing meals for herself or cleaning herself properly, she can't earn a living and pay her bills, she can't comprehend certain concepts like abstractions, metaphors, symbolism, etc. And we adjust our expectations accordingly; we as a society take the responsibility to protect and care for such individuals because they're not capable of caring for themselves. And we do not *expect* an adult with the mental/intellectual capacity of a two-year-old to manage the responsibilities of child-rearing. But I suppose that because impaired *emotional development* or functionality usually isn't as blatantly obvious, plus we have no preexisting construct for dealing with this anomaly, children pay the price for this when they are left in the care of what is essentially another very small child. To me, personality disorder is as weird, incomprehensible and shocking as it would be if a 3-week-old infant were to stand up and begin speaking and acting like an adult. -Annie > > Amen, Sister! > > > > Nothing taught me more about BPD than to come to the CLEAR AND CONCISE CONCLUSION THAT MY 2 YEAR OLD AND MY NADA WERE AS EMOTIONALLY MATURE AS ONE ANOTHER! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I knew I didn't want to be like my mom at 7 years of age. I started reading the parenting columns in her ladies' magazines then. Therapy, reading, support groups, finding positive role models - all those things help. I also share my fears with my DH who gives me lots of positive feedback. And the best feedback is from my baby. I sing him a song I made up that goes, " X is good, X is smart. I love X with all my heart! X is funny, X is kind, he's the sweetest boy you'll ever find! " - and one of my happiest moments in motherhood was the night my little two year old started to sing along with a big grin on his sweet face. The best feedback EVER. When I do feel like I am at my wit's end, I give myself a timeout and do some relaxation exercises and let my baby watch a DVD. I make sure I get enough rest as often as possible and that I take care of myself. Not having had patience and self-control modeled, I find that I can have a pretty low tolerance for heinous toddler behavior (it's lower the more exhausted I am) so I have to do those things and I know they are for HIM as much as for myself. I try to focus on him, not her, in everything I do. > > > > My husband and I are trying to have a baby and we are having fertility issues...We are considering IVF. BUT I am absolutely terrified that I will be just like my Mom, that I will be the horrible Mother that she was and that I will mess up my child the way growing up with a BPD Mother has messed me up...does anyone have any comments about how they have overcome the fear?? I don't have BPD but that doesn't mean I'm not terrified...I want to become a Mother more than anything but I am so afraid I will mess up my child because of the way I was brought up. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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