transient sociopathy in borderlines

[Guest guest]

At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his own

theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient " sociopathic

(aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable theory.

One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid ideation

(thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the theory that under

sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or fragments and can

exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that *she

might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems plausible to

me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose whatever

vestigial sense of empathy she had.

I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

Here's the link:

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

-Annie

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing!

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:36 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

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> At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his

> own theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient "

> sociopathic (aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable

> theory.

>

> One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid

> ideation (thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the

> theory that under sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or

> fragments and can exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

>

> It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that

> *she might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems

> plausible to me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose

> whatever vestigial sense of empathy she had.

>

> I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

>

> Here's the link:

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>

>

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

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> -Annie

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[Guest guest]

OH WOW!

Ok, so this hits home! Right smack between-the-eyes home!

Nada is the 'tire slitter'... the " gun shooter " ... and every substance user...

Then the rages.

Then the blame.

Then the " It wasn't really ME... I " M not like THAT! " My whole life...

Sheesh... no wonder I didn't dare react or have my own memories or opinions... I

KNEW her threats were real... I KNEW she would eventually kill one of us. I'd

seen it... secretively and behind closed doors... but eventually she blew her

cover and others saw it too.

Ok... I feel my worldview validated again.

Thank you,

Lynnette

>

> At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his own

theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient " sociopathic

(aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable theory.

>

> One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid ideation

(thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the theory that under

sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or fragments and can

exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

>

> It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that *she

might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems plausible to

me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose whatever

vestigial sense of empathy she had.

>

> I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

>

> Here's the link:

>

>

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

>

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

You're welcome; I'm glad the article resonated with you, Lynette, and validated

your experiences.

I think its another (yet another!) indicator that those with Cluster B pds who

are sliding around in and out of psychopathy/sociopathy should NOT be raising

children alone, unsupervised, and unaccountable to anyone for what they do.

Its just plain wrong to leave children in the care of such unstable, mentally

ill, impulsive, emotionally disregulated, cognitively and perceptually distorted

individuals who can so easily trigger into paranoia and delusions resulting in

self-harming or child-harming behaviors.

Its wrong, wrong, WRONG.

-Annie

> >

> > At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his own

theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient " sociopathic

(aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable theory.

> >

> > One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid ideation

(thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the theory that under

sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or fragments and can

exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

> >

> > It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that

*she might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems plausible

to me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose whatever

vestigial sense of empathy she had.

> >

> > I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

> >

> > Here's the link:

> >

> >

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

> >

> > -Annie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, great article and it definitely speaks to some of the scariest parts of my

nada that I've seen, the rare but terrifying Witch. This part really spoke to

me:

" Because this isn't the borderline personality's default mentality (it is the

sociopath's), several psychological phenomena must occur, I think, to enable his

temporary descent into sociopathy. He or she must regress in some way;

dissociate in some fashion; and experience a form of self-fragmentation, for

instance in response to a perceived threat—say, of abandonment.

These preconditions, I suggest, seed the borderline personality's collapse into

the primitive, altered states of self that can explain, among other phenomena,

his or her chilling (and necessary) suspension of empathy. This gross suspension

of empathy supports his or her " evening the score " against the " victimizer " with

the sociopath's remorseless sense of entitlement. "

How can anyone child or adult be safe in relationship with such a person? A

person who has a switch that can turn them sociopathic with no empathy! And

that switch is so easy to flip, just make them feel abandoned and we all know

how incredibly easy it is for them to feel abandoned.

Absolutely Annie, children should never ever be entrusted to these people!

Eliza

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> At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his own

theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient " sociopathic

(aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable theory.

>

> One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid ideation

(thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the theory that under

sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or fragments and can

exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

>

> It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that *she

might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems plausible to

me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose whatever

vestigial sense of empathy she had.

>

> I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

>

> Here's the link:

>

>

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

>

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

What a lightbulb moment! Thank you for this article. I have often been afraid

that my nada would kill me or hurt my children in one of her rages but then

second-guessed and blamed myself when she would " recover " from her rage and go

back to " normal, " and wonder incredulously, btw, what I was so upset about. One

of the best parts of moving away from her is being a safe distance. I went back

for a visit and tried to stay with her and lay there at night thinking (because

OF COURSE she went into a rage 1 hour after we got there), " Gee I really hope

she has not purchased any kind of firearm in the last year and plans on using it

on us. " That is the crazy-making insanity that I am so glad I am not around

anymore!!!

> >

> > At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his own

theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient " sociopathic

(aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable theory.

> >

> > One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid ideation

(thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the theory that under

sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or fragments and can

exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

> >

> > It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that

*she might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems plausible

to me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose whatever

vestigial sense of empathy she had.

> >

> > I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

> >

> > Here's the link:

> >

> >

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

> >

> > -Annie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you're out of danger now.

This article resonated with me very much because it seemed to me that sometimes

when my nada would become enraged at me and trigger into one of her red-faced,

spittle-flying, bug-eyed rage-tantrums... that *she didn't know me*. It wasn't

my mother raging at me, it was a stranger and this person *wanted to hurt me.*

She even almost killed both of us once (I was about 16) when she triggered into

a bizarre extreme rage at me (I was thanking her for something nice she did for

me, for God's sake!) while she was driving us home. She became so

out-of-control enraged that she began driving erratically and swerving (as she

tried to stare at me and scream at me) that the fear still makes my heart rate

go up as I write this, decades later. I was shaking from shock and nearly in

hysterics myself when we finally, miraculously, did make it home in one piece.

Its one of the two or three times that my dad ever stepped in and tried to help

me when mom went off the deep end like that.

So, I think that sometimes she dissociated in her rage and that means that yes,

indeed, my mother *wasn't there* and could easily have killed me when I was

little. After her rage was spent, sometimes she acted as though nothing had

just happened, as well. Well, from her point of view, if she dissociated during

that rage then nothing bad did just happen.

So I totally buy this guy's theory that in some cases, in some circumstances, a

person with bpd just slides right into psychopathy.

God help the children of such people.

-Annie

> > >

> > > At the site " Lovefraud Blog " a therapist wrote an article discussing his

own theory that the borderline pd condition lends itself to " transient "

sociopathic (aka psychopathic) behaviors, and I think this is a viable theory.

> > >

> > > One of the current diagnostic traits for bpd is " transient paranoid

ideation (thinking) or delusional thinking due to stress " so I buy the theory

that under sufficient stress the borderline personality " devolves " or fragments

and can exhibit truly psychopathic behaviors.

> > >

> > > It often seemed to me that when my nada would become enraged at me, that

*she might kill* me just out of hand, so, transient psychopathy seems plausible

to me. Plus, when enraged or feeling vindictive, nada would lose whatever

vestigial sense of empathy she had.

> > >

> > > I think that the readers' comments after the post are insightful as well.

> > >

> > > Here's the link:

> > >

> > >

http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/03/27/the-borderline-personality-as-transient\

-sociopath/

> > >

> > > -Annie

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