Guest guest Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It seems to me that those of us who were raised in dysfunctional families by personality-disordered parents are sort of in the same position as a wild animal that has been raised its whole life in a small enclosure and as an adult has never seen one of its own kind before. The young adult cheetah or wildebeest or monkey has no idea how to simply be what it is, a wild animal that is able to socialize with others of its kind, able to find food, water and shelter for itself and feel comfortable in its natural, wild environment. Or, the adult child of the Cluster B parent is sort of like someone raised in an extremist cult, where members are only allowed to think and speak and act precisely according to the cult leader's dictates or be labeled anathema, unclean and banished from the cult. It takes time to deprogram and acclimate a person who has been raised in an isolationist, extremist cult, and it takes time to slowly acclimate a wild animal raised in captivity to its natural environment so it will not just survive but thrive. So, be gentle with yourself; you are like a cheetah just learning to fully stretch and push its muscles outside the confines of a small enclosure; it will take time to develop the leg and heart muscles to run like the wind, and for the hunting instinct to develop, and that takes trial and error and learning from mistakes and trying again. This normalization process is happening for you even now, and it just takes as long as it takes, at the pace that is your pace. -Annie > > So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 ((())), I can relate. At least once a day, I catch myself after having a conversation with someone, thinking to myself, " I am sooo bad at this! " If it were a muscle, I 'd say this part of myself was very flabby and atrophied. I just don't do well with off the cuff conversations. I'm better with one on one or small group conversations. Even then (in small groups), if the others in the group are louder or talk faster, I tend to feel left out and just fade away. You sound a lot like me, like you live in your head a lot, right?. That's me. I get too over-stimulated at big events and then need time to " reboot. " My husband is a very, very social person and I refuse to take walks with him at the park anymore b/c he stops every 4 steps to say hi to someone he knows. For me, it's too much. Of course, I don't know you and am not any kind of doctor, but to me, you don't sound like you have bpd. You sound like this is an area of your life that could use some structured work. Joining a class or volunteering, stuff to keep you in contact with others, build up that muscle. For me, I have to be very intentional about reaching out to people, and not getting easily offended (which is a huge flea from my mother) when they don't call me back right away or at all. For my mother, that meant they didn't like her at all and the friendship was over. I admit that has been at times my jerk-knee reaction, but lately, I try to respond with grace and persistence. I keep calling people, I keep reaching out, anything to keep people in my life. If I think I've been slighted, I don't tuck it away like I used to, I bring it out in the open and talk about it. I 'm thinking as well of taking a belly dancing class. Just anything to keep life and joy around, you know? But I know I have to be intentional about it or I'll end up, as you put it, in that lonely place. I know that place very well and try to keep a consistent flow of people and friendship going. That's fantastic that you're in therapy. I'm sure that will help a great deal. I am in therapy as well. May we both heal!! Hugs. Fiona > > So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Annie and Fiona - Thank you for letting me know that you understand. I think that's the hardest part sometimes is just wanting somebody to get it. For me, it totally gets triggered with the end of a relationship. I've never had a long term relationship (I am 30) and it terrifies me that I'm not capable of being in one. I feel like I have a lot of love to give, but I don't know how. I know that everything we go through makes us who we are, but I feel like there's this wonderful side of myself that gets smothered by the insecurities instilled in me because of my childhood. Annie, I too, am much better one on one and feel myself slip away in a group of people that are louder and more talkative. My mother was similar to yours and the tiniest thing was a slight to her and was the end of the relationship. She would even do it with my friends, if something happened she would ask me why I was still friends with them!! I feel like that's what has made it so hard for me to figure out when I have the right to be upset with somebody and when I don't. I'll take something a little personally and then struggle with whether I had the right to or not. My thoughts become a trap that's hard to get out of. I feel like I have learned to accept so many parts of myself and be me, but only to a point. Something triggers the downward spiral and I'm a lost kid again. I really want to get past that point and move forward. Fiona, thank you for the reminder to be gentle with myself, it's so easy to be your own worst enemy. Sometimes I'm able to look at my life and see that I'm just a little bit behind a lot of people, like I'm having to go through high-school all over again and figure stuff out. Other times I feel like it's a lost cause and it's beyond repair. I hate the struggle of trying to get one step ahead again when I've fallen so many steps behind. Somewhere in there I feel like I do still have the hope to learn and grown from it all, I just kind of want to fast forward to that point!! Thanks again, > > > > So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I too personally feel that the potential to learn, grow, and change is always there for us. I've heard and read posts that dialectical behavioral therapy is supposed to give us techniques to use to help us learn to " stay in the moment " , to self-soothe and not let our emotions cascade and spiral us into counterproductive thoughts and behaviors. So, maybe that is something you could ask your therapist about, whether DBT therapy might work for you. Or your therapist might have other types of exercises or therapies that would help you in that department. -Annie > > > > > > So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 The one fear a BPD never has is that something might be wrong with them. But it is just a bit overwhelming. Don t think that you re not capable of living in the moment, rather, consider that it is a skill you ve never learned. Healing from the wounds of our Nada consists in large part of learning to cope in new ways. It is hard for us to connect, because when we did, some many times, and in so many ways, Nada was there to F it up for us. But , coping and surviving life with nada made you a tougher chick than you may realize. Give it time, and be gentle with yourself. You might enjoy a book I ve read called " The Power of Now " by Eckhart Tolle. Keep healing Doug > > So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 thanks again doug, these are words of wisdom, compassion that only a fellow survivor can say.. soooo glad to read them from you. love to all, ann Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed.... To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Saturday, October 22, 2011, 9:41 PM Â The one fear a BPD never has is that something might be wrong with them. But it is just a bit overwhelming. Don t think that you re not capable of living in the moment, rather, consider that it is a skill you ve never learned. Healing from the wounds of our Nada consists in large part of learning to cope in new ways. It is hard for us to connect, because when we did, some many times, and in so many ways, Nada was there to F it up for us. But , coping and surviving life with nada made you a tougher chick than you may realize. Give it time, and be gentle with yourself. You might enjoy a book I ve read called " The Power of Now " by Eckhart Tolle. Keep healing Doug > > So I have been feeling extremely overwhelmed lately. I feel like I have a very hard time connecting to other people. I feel like I truly care about people and want them in my life, but it's like I don't know how to do it. I know there has been a lot of talk about fleas and how feelings come back. I just can't tell if this is the low before things get better or if I'm going to be trapped!! To be honest, I get scared that I have BPD too... although deep down inside I don't think that I do, it's just like I can't shake some of the feelings. I'm not mean to people, I don't belittle them, lash out or rage. I just get consumed by the thoughts in my head and feel like I'm not capable of living in the moment and enjoying what is in front of me. And I don't want to consume or overwhelm other people with my problems. I am in therapy and actually feel comfortable with my therapist and she gives me hope. It is just a very lonely place to be. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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