Synthesia

[Guest guest]

So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its not a

handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is different. It

maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

interested in this.

I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some letters

as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime numbers are

unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of all the

numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I don't

mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my skin is

sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and I

have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my sense

of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most people

I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices and

flavors.

So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down genetic deal

that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. . .

sensitive.

Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color, names

having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to sounds,

for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that DO

NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to migraines and

fibromyalgia.

" Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly segregation.

Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A Beethoven

symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like creamed

spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses do not

seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which the

customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight mingling

with sound, or taste with touch. "

[Guest guest]

I'd heard of this. It's an unusal tallent one which is quite

amazing.

Steph

Synthesia

So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing.

Its not a

handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

different. It

maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be

very

interested in this.

I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and

some letters

as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male.

Prime numbers are

unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest

of all the

numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by

that I don't

mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is

that my skin is

sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is

sensitive and I

have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to

compare my sense

of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than

most people

I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with

spices and

flavors.

So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

genetic deal

that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD

or

schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . .

well. . .

sensitive.

Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having

color, names

having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

sounds,

for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I

dance I

always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats

that DO

NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I

also

have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

migraines and

fibromyalgia.

" Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

segregation.

Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

Beethoven

symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste

like creamed

spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the

senses do not

seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in

which the

customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down,

sight mingling

with sound, or taste with touch. "

[Guest guest]

I've always been interested in synthesia after reading a " Mango Shaped

Space " (I think that's what it was called). I find it fascinating how

senses can cross over and influence each other and how you perceive it. One

one hand, it sounds kind of magical--the artistic inspiration I would get if

I had that! On the other hand, it sounds like it could get on one's nerves

after a while, particularly if there's any negative smells or sounds

associated with things you see everyday.

I'm pretty normal neurologically (well, except for sensorineural hearing

loss....lol) but my husband has sensory integration disorder, He's sensitive

to some things, but other things he simply doesn't realize. I know it's a

guy thing to go out without a coat sometimes, but my husband doesn't realize

how cold it gets, sometimes. He can only focus on some things at once and

basically has tunnel vision even though his vision is just fine--he just

can't integrate the peripheral vision very well. It basically keeps him from

being able to drive a car, too. There's some other things, but he's

otherwise functions normally His family is normal, and I really do mean,

" normal, " so it's not necessarily a KO thing, more of a hereditary thing,

but being a KO with neurological differences--now that could be problematic.

My dad pretended to be a good parent when it came to me being deaf, but he

was actually quite prejudiced in actions. I hope your nada never acted nasty

toward you just because of synthesia.

I do have migraines, but that has dropped of significantly after I moved out

of my parents' house at 21. Then there's depression. But I think you just

have been gifted with this amazing thing, because it sounds so

creative--dancing to beats that aren't in the music? And I would love to

stop by for dinner sometime, LOL!

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its not a

> handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is different. It

> maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

>

> Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> interested in this.

>

> I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> letters

> as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime numbers are

> unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of all the

> numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

>

> I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I don't

> mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my skin

> is

> sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and I

> have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my sense

> of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> people

> I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices and

> flavors.

>

> So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down genetic

> deal

> that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. . .

> sensitive.

>

> Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

> names

> having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to sounds,

> for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that DO

> NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

>

> Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to migraines and

> fibromyalgia.

>

> " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> segregation.

> Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A Beethoven

> symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like creamed

> spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses do

> not

> seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which the

> customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> mingling

> with sound, or taste with touch. "

>

>

[Guest guest]

Love you, Holly!!! Yes, I get called " WEIRD " an awful lot, and yes the name

Holly is tastes like red sour berries, kind of like juniper berries, but

maybe we only have those out west

I get where your hubbie is coming from for sure. I'm kind of the opposite. I

can multi-task to an extreme level pretty successfully. But I get really

cranky with people who can't think about 2 things at once at times, and then

there's things like " That movement feels like illness " and " Can't you SMELL

that dinner is DONE? " (Ha ha, I'm starting to realize that maybe not

everyone cooks by smell. . . ) And then there's the OVERSTIMULATION that

shuts me down a lot. So its not all good, but it IS pretty interesting. . .

I actually do see a lot of my neurology being inherited from my mother. Very

intelligent, sensitive and STRANGE woman with horrible life and social

skills and a lack of empathy, developmental delays right and left and a big

old streak of artistic madness that was passed on in force to both her kids.

.. . God, i wish I had a good way to get at more of my family history, but I

really don't without breaking NC. They don't record the things that I want

to know in genealogy libraries.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Holly Lipschultz <

hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

> I've always been interested in synthesia after reading a " Mango Shaped

> Space " (I think that's what it was called). I find it fascinating how

> senses can cross over and influence each other and how you perceive it. One

> one hand, it sounds kind of magical--the artistic inspiration I would get

> if

> I had that! On the other hand, it sounds like it could get on one's nerves

> after a while, particularly if there's any negative smells or sounds

> associated with things you see everyday.

>

> I'm pretty normal neurologically (well, except for sensorineural hearing

> loss....lol) but my husband has sensory integration disorder, He's

> sensitive

> to some things, but other things he simply doesn't realize. I know it's a

> guy thing to go out without a coat sometimes, but my husband doesn't

> realize

> how cold it gets, sometimes. He can only focus on some things at once and

> basically has tunnel vision even though his vision is just fine--he just

> can't integrate the peripheral vision very well. It basically keeps him

> from

> being able to drive a car, too. There's some other things, but he's

> otherwise functions normally His family is normal, and I really do mean,

> " normal, " so it's not necessarily a KO thing, more of a hereditary thing,

> but being a KO with neurological differences--now that could be

> problematic.

> My dad pretended to be a good parent when it came to me being deaf, but he

> was actually quite prejudiced in actions. I hope your nada never acted

> nasty

> toward you just because of synthesia.

>

> I do have migraines, but that has dropped of significantly after I moved

> out

> of my parents' house at 21. Then there's depression. But I think you just

> have been gifted with this amazing thing, because it sounds so

> creative--dancing to beats that aren't in the music? And I would love to

> stop by for dinner sometime, LOL!

>

>

>

> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its not a

> > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is different.

> It

> > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> >

> > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > interested in this.

> >

> > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > letters

> > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime numbers

> are

> > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of all

> the

> > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> >

> > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> don't

> > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my skin

> > is

> > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and I

> > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> sense

> > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > people

> > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices and

> > flavors.

> >

> > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down genetic

> > deal

> > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. . .

> > sensitive.

> >

> > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

> > names

> > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to sounds,

> > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that DO

> > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> >

> > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to migraines

> and

> > fibromyalgia.

> >

> > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > segregation.

> > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> Beethoven

> > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> creamed

> > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses do

> > not

> > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which

> the

> > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > mingling

> > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's interesting--probably because holly has red berries which I do

imagine to be sour, LOL! Multitasking--that's something I can do better than

DH big time. He likes to focus on only one thing, and when I talk to him I

jump around from subject to subject a lot, and poor guy gets a little

bewildered. That might be a girl vs boy thing, though!

Ooh, dinner smelling done--that's what I do. I go by sight and smell. The

timer is there only as a guideline. I'm trying to teach DH that no, you

don't have to follow the recipes word for word, you have to have a " feel "

for cooking. It took a couple of years but now he's starting to get the hang

of it, LOL. So, no, you're not the only one who cooks by smell. I've saved

several things from a certain burnt demise because I smelled that it was

done 10 minutes before the timer would have beeped. So, I call that a

superpower

Same here--I'm so fortunate to have a sense of medical history since both my

parents talked about it some, but it's gotten confused as time passes. Like,

I know that several of my ancestors and distant relatives have had breast

cancer and liver cancer, and gynecology irregularities seems to be strong on

my mom's side, so I have a sense of that. On the other hand, *mental*

illnesses is another story. and That certainly never makes it to the

geneology records...

Mom's nada (yes...the cycle of abuse...) is some sort of crazy. From what

little I know she sounds BPD with hoarding and paranoia and perhaps a tad

waify with witch tendencies. When her dogs die, she wraps them up and puts

them in the freezer. Next to the meats for tonight's dinner, and the ice

cream. She tapes a ton of TV shows on several TVs, but never has time to

watch any of them, just wants to have them. And she has a whole ton of crap

everywhere.

Fada's dad--he sounds a little crazy way he describes it, but other family

members note how wonderful and nice he was, so I'm more inclined to go with

the sane family members' analysis instead of fada's analysis. So, no clue

how fada got the BPD/NPD thing.

Okay, I'm going a little off topic, lol.

Anyway, synthesia is totally a gift, despite the drawbacks of

oversensitivity and stimulation. I see my deafness as a gift sometimes,

but I do get headaches if people talk too much or I'm in a noisy situation,

and I just want some peace and quiet to wind down from it. On the other

hand, I get to sleep through thunderstorms!

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Love you, Holly!!! Yes, I get called " WEIRD " an awful lot, and yes the name

> Holly is tastes like red sour berries, kind of like juniper berries, but

> maybe we only have those out west

>

> I get where your hubbie is coming from for sure. I'm kind of the opposite.

> I

> can multi-task to an extreme level pretty successfully. But I get really

> cranky with people who can't think about 2 things at once at times, and

> then

> there's things like " That movement feels like illness " and " Can't you SMELL

> that dinner is DONE? " (Ha ha, I'm starting to realize that maybe not

> everyone cooks by smell. . . ) And then there's the OVERSTIMULATION that

> shuts me down a lot. So its not all good, but it IS pretty interesting. . .

> I actually do see a lot of my neurology being inherited from my mother.

> Very

> intelligent, sensitive and STRANGE woman with horrible life and social

> skills and a lack of empathy, developmental delays right and left and a big

> old streak of artistic madness that was passed on in force to both her

> kids.

> . . God, i wish I had a good way to get at more of my family history, but I

> really don't without breaking NC. They don't record the things that I want

> to know in genealogy libraries.

>

>

> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Holly Lipschultz <

> hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

>

> > I've always been interested in synthesia after reading a " Mango Shaped

> > Space " (I think that's what it was called). I find it fascinating how

> > senses can cross over and influence each other and how you perceive it.

> One

> > one hand, it sounds kind of magical--the artistic inspiration I would get

> > if

> > I had that! On the other hand, it sounds like it could get on one's

> nerves

> > after a while, particularly if there's any negative smells or sounds

> > associated with things you see everyday.

> >

> > I'm pretty normal neurologically (well, except for sensorineural hearing

> > loss....lol) but my husband has sensory integration disorder, He's

> > sensitive

> > to some things, but other things he simply doesn't realize. I know it's a

> > guy thing to go out without a coat sometimes, but my husband doesn't

> > realize

> > how cold it gets, sometimes. He can only focus on some things at once and

> > basically has tunnel vision even though his vision is just fine--he just

> > can't integrate the peripheral vision very well. It basically keeps him

> > from

> > being able to drive a car, too. There's some other things, but he's

> > otherwise functions normally His family is normal, and I really do mean,

> > " normal, " so it's not necessarily a KO thing, more of a hereditary thing,

> > but being a KO with neurological differences--now that could be

> > problematic.

> > My dad pretended to be a good parent when it came to me being deaf, but

> he

> > was actually quite prejudiced in actions. I hope your nada never acted

> > nasty

> > toward you just because of synthesia.

> >

> > I do have migraines, but that has dropped of significantly after I moved

> > out

> > of my parents' house at 21. Then there's depression. But I think you just

> > have been gifted with this amazing thing, because it sounds so

> > creative--dancing to beats that aren't in the music? And I would love to

> > stop by for dinner sometime, LOL!

> >

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> > girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> >

> > > **

>

> > >

> > >

> > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its not

> a

> > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> different.

> > It

> > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > >

> > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > > interested in this.

> > >

> > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > > letters

> > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime numbers

> > are

> > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of all

> > the

> > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > >

> > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> > don't

> > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> skin

> > > is

> > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and

> I

> > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> > sense

> > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > > people

> > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices and

> > > flavors.

> > >

> > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down genetic

> > > deal

> > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. .

> .

> > > sensitive.

> > >

> > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

> > > names

> > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> sounds,

> > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that

> DO

> > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > >

> > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to migraines

> > and

> > > fibromyalgia.

> > >

> > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > segregation.

> > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > Beethoven

> > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > creamed

> > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> do

> > > not

> > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which

> > the

> > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > mingling

> > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

OMG, dead dog in the FREEZER? Yuck!!! How long would she keep it there.

My friend says her little girl has it. So I'm gonna ask her. . . I wonder if

a lot of people have it with names like Ruby and Holly that obviously have

taste and color. . . maybe a lot of people have it just a little.

I think a lot of people who thing I'm weird don't have it AT ALL, and almost

can't even imagine having it or imagine that words can taste. I find those

people DULL

XOXO

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Holly Lipschultz <

hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

> That's interesting--probably because holly has red berries which I do

> imagine to be sour, LOL! fin--that's something I can do better than

> DH big time. He likes to focus on only one thing, and when I talk to him I

> jump around from subject to subject a lot, and poor guy gets a little

> bewildered. That might be a girl vs boy thing, though!

>

> Ooh, dinner smelling done--that's what I do. I go by sight and smell. The

> timer is there only as a guideline. I'm trying to teach DH that no, you

> don't have to follow the recipes word for word, you have to have a " feel "

> for cooking. It took a couple of years but now he's starting to get the

> hang

> of it, LOL. So, no, you're not the only one who cooks by smell. I've saved

> several things from a certain burnt demise because I smelled that it was

> done 10 minutes before the timer would have beeped. So, I call that a

> superpower

>

> Same here--I'm so fortunate to have a sense of medical history since both

> my

> parents talked about it some, but it's gotten confused as time passes.

> Like,

> I know that several of my ancestors and distant relatives have had breast

> cancer and liver cancer, and gynecology irregularities seems to be strong

> on

> my mom's side, so I have a sense of that. On the other hand, *mental*

> illnesses is another story. and That certainly never makes it to the

> geneology records...

>

> Mom's nada (yes...the cycle of abuse...) is some sort of crazy. From what

> little I know she sounds BPD with hoarding and paranoia and perhaps a tad

> waify with witch tendencies. When her dogs die, she wraps them up and puts

> them in the freezer. Next to the meats for tonight's dinner, and the ice

> cream. She tapes a ton of TV shows on several TVs, but never has time to

> watch any of them, just wants to have them. And she has a whole ton of crap

> everywhere.

>

> Fada's dad--he sounds a little crazy way he describes it, but other family

> members note how wonderful and nice he was, so I'm more inclined to go with

> the sane family members' analysis instead of fada's analysis. So, no clue

> how fada got the BPD/NPD thing.

>

> Okay, I'm going a little off topic, lol.

>

> Anyway, synthesia is totally a gift, despite the drawbacks of

> oversensitivity and stimulation. I see my deafness as a gift sometimes,

> but I do get headaches if people talk too much or I'm in a noisy situation,

> and I just want some peace and quiet to wind down from it. On the other

> hand, I get to sleep through thunderstorms!

>

> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Love you, Holly!!! Yes, I get called " WEIRD " an awful lot, and yes the

> name

> > Holly is tastes like red sour berries, kind of like juniper berries, but

> > maybe we only have those out west

> >

> > I get where your hubbie is coming from for sure. I'm kind of the

> opposite.

> > I

> > can multi-task to an extreme level pretty successfully. But I get really

> > cranky with people who can't think about 2 things at once at times, and

> > then

> > there's things like " That movement feels like illness " and " Can't you

> SMELL

> > that dinner is DONE? " (Ha ha, I'm starting to realize that maybe not

> > everyone cooks by smell. . . ) And then there's the OVERSTIMULATION that

> > shuts me down a lot. So its not all good, but it IS pretty interesting. .

> .

> > I actually do see a lot of my neurology being inherited from my mother.

> > Very

> > intelligent, sensitive and STRANGE woman with horrible life and social

> > skills and a lack of empathy, developmental delays right and left and a

> big

> > old streak of artistic madness that was passed on in force to both her

> > kids.

> > . . God, i wish I had a good way to get at more of my family history, but

> I

> > really don't without breaking NC. They don't record the things that I

> want

> > to know in genealogy libraries.

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Holly Lipschultz <

> > hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

> >

> > > I've always been interested in synthesia after reading a " Mango Shaped

> > > Space " (I think that's what it was called). I find it fascinating how

> > > senses can cross over and influence each other and how you perceive it.

> > One

> > > one hand, it sounds kind of magical--the artistic inspiration I would

> get

> > > if

> > > I had that! On the other hand, it sounds like it could get on one's

> > nerves

> > > after a while, particularly if there's any negative smells or sounds

> > > associated with things you see everyday.

> > >

> > > I'm pretty normal neurologically (well, except for sensorineural

> hearing

> > > loss....lol) but my husband has sensory integration disorder, He's

> > > sensitive

> > > to some things, but other things he simply doesn't realize. I know it's

> a

> > > guy thing to go out without a coat sometimes, but my husband doesn't

> > > realize

> > > how cold it gets, sometimes. He can only focus on some things at once

> and

> > > basically has tunnel vision even though his vision is just fine--he

> just

> > > can't integrate the peripheral vision very well. It basically keeps him

> > > from

> > > being able to drive a car, too. There's some other things, but he's

> > > otherwise functions normally His family is normal, and I really do

> mean,

> > > " normal, " so it's not necessarily a KO thing, more of a hereditary

> thing,

> > > but being a KO with neurological differences--now that could be

> > > problematic.

> > > My dad pretended to be a good parent when it came to me being deaf, but

> > he

> > > was actually quite prejudiced in actions. I hope your nada never acted

> > > nasty

> > > toward you just because of synthesia.

> > >

> > > I do have migraines, but that has dropped of significantly after I

> moved

> > > out

> > > of my parents' house at 21. Then there's depression. But I think you

> just

> > > have been gifted with this amazing thing, because it sounds so

> > > creative--dancing to beats that aren't in the music? And I would love

> to

> > > stop by for dinner sometime, LOL!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> > > girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > **

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> not

> > a

> > > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > different.

> > > It

> > > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > > > interested in this.

> > > >

> > > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > > > letters

> > > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> numbers

> > > are

> > > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> all

> > > the

> > > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > > >

> > > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> > > don't

> > > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> > skin

> > > > is

> > > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive

> and

> > I

> > > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> > > sense

> > > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > > > people

> > > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> and

> > > > flavors.

> > > >

> > > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> genetic

> > > > deal

> > > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well.

> .

> > .

> > > > sensitive.

> > > >

> > > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having

> color,

> > > > names

> > > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > sounds,

> > > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance

> I

> > > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats

> that

> > DO

> > > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > > >

> > > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> migraines

> > > and

> > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > >

> > > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > > segregation.

> > > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > > Beethoven

> > > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > > creamed

> > > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> > do

> > > > not

> > > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in

> which

> > > the

> > > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > > mingling

> > > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

From what I understand, sometimes my mom's dad would be traveling when one

of their numerous dogs died, so her nada would put it in the freezer for him

to bury when he got back. He died some years ago. So I presume the dogs

(mostly Chihuahuas I think) are still sitting around in the freezer from

what I gather.

I think artistic folks are more likely to imagine combined sensory

experiences--like I get a personality impression based on names, and I love

the " feel " of how different people write--and I can't enjoy a book if the

writing doesn't " feel " good.

I agree--people who can't imagine breaking down boundaries between senses

are boring! If they at least tolerate it, then that's better than nothing

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Girlscout Cowboy <

girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> OMG, dead dog in the FREEZER? Yuck!!! How long would she keep it there.

>

> My friend says her little girl has it. So I'm gonna ask her. . . I wonder

> if

> a lot of people have it with names like Ruby and Holly that obviously have

> taste and color. . . maybe a lot of people have it just a little.

>

> I think a lot of people who thing I'm weird don't have it AT ALL, and

> almost

> can't even imagine having it or imagine that words can taste. I find those

> people DULL

>

> XOXO

>

>

> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Holly Lipschultz <

> hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

>

> > That's interesting--probably because holly has red berries which I do

> > imagine to be sour, LOL! fin--that's something I can do better than

>

> > DH big time. He likes to focus on only one thing, and when I talk to him

> I

> > jump around from subject to subject a lot, and poor guy gets a little

> > bewildered. That might be a girl vs boy thing, though!

> >

> > Ooh, dinner smelling done--that's what I do. I go by sight and smell. The

> > timer is there only as a guideline. I'm trying to teach DH that no, you

> > don't have to follow the recipes word for word, you have to have a " feel "

> > for cooking. It took a couple of years but now he's starting to get the

> > hang

> > of it, LOL. So, no, you're not the only one who cooks by smell. I've

> saved

> > several things from a certain burnt demise because I smelled that it was

> > done 10 minutes before the timer would have beeped. So, I call that a

> > superpower

> >

> > Same here--I'm so fortunate to have a sense of medical history since both

> > my

> > parents talked about it some, but it's gotten confused as time passes.

> > Like,

> > I know that several of my ancestors and distant relatives have had breast

> > cancer and liver cancer, and gynecology irregularities seems to be strong

> > on

> > my mom's side, so I have a sense of that. On the other hand, *mental*

> > illnesses is another story. and That certainly never makes it to the

> > geneology records...

> >

> > Mom's nada (yes...the cycle of abuse...) is some sort of crazy. From what

> > little I know she sounds BPD with hoarding and paranoia and perhaps a tad

> > waify with witch tendencies. When her dogs die, she wraps them up and

> puts

> > them in the freezer. Next to the meats for tonight's dinner, and the ice

> > cream. She tapes a ton of TV shows on several TVs, but never has time to

> > watch any of them, just wants to have them. And she has a whole ton of

> crap

> > everywhere.

> >

> > Fada's dad--he sounds a little crazy way he describes it, but other

> family

> > members note how wonderful and nice he was, so I'm more inclined to go

> with

> > the sane family members' analysis instead of fada's analysis. So, no clue

> > how fada got the BPD/NPD thing.

> >

> > Okay, I'm going a little off topic, lol.

> >

> > Anyway, synthesia is totally a gift, despite the drawbacks of

> > oversensitivity and stimulation. I see my deafness as a gift

> sometimes,

> > but I do get headaches if people talk too much or I'm in a noisy

> situation,

> > and I just want some peace and quiet to wind down from it. On the other

> > hand, I get to sleep through thunderstorms!

> >

> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> > girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> >

> > > **

>

> > >

> > >

> > > Love you, Holly!!! Yes, I get called " WEIRD " an awful lot, and yes the

> > name

> > > Holly is tastes like red sour berries, kind of like juniper berries,

> but

> > > maybe we only have those out west

> > >

> > > I get where your hubbie is coming from for sure. I'm kind of the

> > opposite.

> > > I

> > > can multi-task to an extreme level pretty successfully. But I get

> really

> > > cranky with people who can't think about 2 things at once at times, and

> > > then

> > > there's things like " That movement feels like illness " and " Can't you

> > SMELL

> > > that dinner is DONE? " (Ha ha, I'm starting to realize that maybe not

> > > everyone cooks by smell. . . ) And then there's the OVERSTIMULATION

> that

> > > shuts me down a lot. So its not all good, but it IS pretty interesting.

> .

> > .

> > > I actually do see a lot of my neurology being inherited from my mother.

> > > Very

> > > intelligent, sensitive and STRANGE woman with horrible life and social

> > > skills and a lack of empathy, developmental delays right and left and a

> > big

> > > old streak of artistic madness that was passed on in force to both her

> > > kids.

> > > . . God, i wish I had a good way to get at more of my family history,

> but

> > I

> > > really don't without breaking NC. They don't record the things that I

> > want

> > > to know in genealogy libraries.

> > >

> > >

> > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Holly Lipschultz <

> > > hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I've always been interested in synthesia after reading a " Mango

> Shaped

> > > > Space " (I think that's what it was called). I find it fascinating how

> > > > senses can cross over and influence each other and how you perceive

> it.

> > > One

> > > > one hand, it sounds kind of magical--the artistic inspiration I would

> > get

> > > > if

> > > > I had that! On the other hand, it sounds like it could get on one's

> > > nerves

> > > > after a while, particularly if there's any negative smells or sounds

> > > > associated with things you see everyday.

> > > >

> > > > I'm pretty normal neurologically (well, except for sensorineural

> > hearing

> > > > loss....lol) but my husband has sensory integration disorder, He's

> > > > sensitive

> > > > to some things, but other things he simply doesn't realize. I know

> it's

> > a

> > > > guy thing to go out without a coat sometimes, but my husband doesn't

> > > > realize

> > > > how cold it gets, sometimes. He can only focus on some things at once

> > and

> > > > basically has tunnel vision even though his vision is just fine--he

> > just

> > > > can't integrate the peripheral vision very well. It basically keeps

> him

> > > > from

> > > > being able to drive a car, too. There's some other things, but he's

> > > > otherwise functions normally His family is normal, and I really do

> > mean,

> > > > " normal, " so it's not necessarily a KO thing, more of a hereditary

> > thing,

> > > > but being a KO with neurological differences--now that could be

> > > > problematic.

> > > > My dad pretended to be a good parent when it came to me being deaf,

> but

> > > he

> > > > was actually quite prejudiced in actions. I hope your nada never

> acted

> > > > nasty

> > > > toward you just because of synthesia.

> > > >

> > > > I do have migraines, but that has dropped of significantly after I

> > moved

> > > > out

> > > > of my parents' house at 21. Then there's depression. But I think you

> > just

> > > > have been gifted with this amazing thing, because it sounds so

> > > > creative--dancing to beats that aren't in the music? And I would love

> > to

> > > > stop by for dinner sometime, LOL!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Girlscout Cowboy <

> > > > girlscout.cowboy@...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > **

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> > not

> > > a

> > > > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > > different.

> > > > It

> > > > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be

> very

> > > > > interested in this.

> > > > >

> > > > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and

> some

> > > > > letters

> > > > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> > numbers

> > > > are

> > > > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> > all

> > > > the

> > > > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that

> I

> > > > don't

> > > > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that

> my

> > > skin

> > > > > is

> > > > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive

> > and

> > > I

> > > > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare

> my

> > > > sense

> > > > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than

> most

> > > > > people

> > > > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> > and

> > > > > flavors.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> > genetic

> > > > > deal

> > > > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . .

> well.

> > .

> > > .

> > > > > sensitive.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having

> > color,

> > > > > names

> > > > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > > sounds,

> > > > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I

> dance

> > I

> > > > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats

> > that

> > > DO

> > > > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > > > >

> > > > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I

> also

> > > > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> > migraines

> > > > and

> > > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > > > segregation.

> > > > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > > > Beethoven

> > > > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > > > creamed

> > > > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the

> senses

> > > do

> > > > > not

> > > > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in

> > which

> > > > the

> > > > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > > > mingling

> > > > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I just finished reading " Born on a Blue Day " - the author, Tammet, is an

autistic mathematical savant and has synesthesia. Fascinating read!!

I think many people could have these abilities IF modern civilization hadn't

gotten in the way... in other words, humankind has been taught NOT to know these

things.

Chris

>

> So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its not a

> handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is different. It

> maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

>

> Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> interested in this.

>

> I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some letters

> as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime numbers are

> unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of all the

> numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

>

> I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I don't

> mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my skin is

> sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and I

> have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my sense

> of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most people

> I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices and

> flavors.

>

> So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down genetic deal

> that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. . .

> sensitive.

>

> Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color, names

> having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to sounds,

> for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that DO

> NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

>

> Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to migraines and

> fibromyalgia.

>

> " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly segregation.

> Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A Beethoven

> symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like creamed

> spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses do not

> seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which the

> customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight mingling

> with sound, or taste with touch. "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am curious about this. Do you get these kind of impressions, feelings about

people?

>

> So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its not a

> handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is different. It

> maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

>

> Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> interested in this.

>

> I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some letters

> as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime numbers are

> unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of all the

> numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

>

> I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I don't

> mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my skin is

> sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and I

> have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my sense

> of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most people

> I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices and

> flavors.

>

> So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down genetic deal

> that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. . .

> sensitive.

>

> Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color, names

> having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to sounds,

> for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that DO

> NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

>

> Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to migraines and

> fibromyalgia.

>

> " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly segregation.

> Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A Beethoven

> symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like creamed

> spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses do not

> seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which the

> customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight mingling

> with sound, or taste with touch. "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wait a minute there, Cowgirl! What do you MEAN Males are odd?

Doug

>

> So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

not a

> handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

different. It

> maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

>

> Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> interested in this.

>

> I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

letters

> as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

numbers are

> unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

all the

> numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

>

> I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

don't

> mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

skin is

> sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and

I

> have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

sense

> of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

people

> I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

and

> flavors.

>

> So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

genetic deal

> that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. .

..

> sensitive.

>

> Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

names

> having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

sounds,

> for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that

DO

> NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

>

> Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

migraines and

> fibromyalgia.

>

> " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

segregation.

> Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

Beethoven

> symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

creamed

> spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

do not

> seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which

the

> customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

mingling

> with sound, or taste with touch. "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, Doug, i know males are ODD But not as odd as Nadas, usually.

So, , the answer about people is " kinda. " For example, I usually have a

color in my mind to represent a person. i can never tell if its based on the

colors they choose to wear or if its just something in my head. Sometimes

its a group of color, and almost always warm or cool. But you could be cool

crisp lipstick pink and not be mean, it doesn't mean your personality is

mean. It just means you are that color.

AGGG I can't explain it

> **

>

>

>

> Wait a minute there, Cowgirl! What do you MEAN Males are odd?

>

>

>

> Doug

>

>

>

> >

> > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> not a

> > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> different. It

> > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> >

> > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > interested in this.

> >

> > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> letters

> > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> numbers are

> > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> all the

> > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> >

> > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> don't

> > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> skin is

> > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and

> I

> > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> sense

> > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> people

> > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> and

> > flavors.

> >

> > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> genetic deal

> > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. .

> .

> > sensitive.

> >

> > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

> names

> > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> sounds,

> > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that

> DO

> > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> >

> > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> migraines and

> > fibromyalgia.

> >

> > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> segregation.

> > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> Beethoven

> > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> creamed

> > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> do not

> > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which

> the

> > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> mingling

> > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Girlscout - I think we have talked before. So...I don't have synethesia

which is what I believe you are describing, but I am hyper-sensitive in other

ways and I've thought a lot about how it might relate to my Nada's BPD as well.

Here are my rambling thoughts on it.

I have extremely keen vision, but I believe part of it comes from the fact that

I run pretty high on adrenaline which dilates the pupils. This is a primal

response in the human and animal body - adrenaline blows your pupils so you be

able to see to run away from a threat. Unfortunately, if my pupils blow in say

- a grocery store - it can lead to visual overload depending on what aisle I'm

in. This leads to a bit of a viscious circle with anxiety escalating because

things looks " weird. " I also have acute hearing and can listen to several

conversations at once. And, I also have really weird sensitivities like going

to the eye doctor and being able to tell him that my ocular pressure is slightly

higher in one eye when they do the glaucoma test - something the doctor said I

could never perceive, but I get it right every time. Like you, I can pick out

tastes and smells and I'm very good in the kitchen.

Sometimes I think this hyper-sensitivity is the result of having to constantly

be on guard with my BPD Nada so I would be able to escape from her rages as soon

as they started. I spent a great deal of time studying her face (and then other

people's faces) and I can generally read someone's emotions so well it is

downright painful. I can also recognize people in pictures (like celebrities)

from a small quadrant of their face. I discovered this years ago while playing

a game called ID. No one would play it with me after I identified Kitty Dukakis

from the tip of her right eyebrow. Somehow, seeing one part of the face, my

brain mentally fills in the rest. I also have a photographic memory for phone

numbers because I can see them in my mind.

Maybe it's genetic and unrelated from having to be " on guard " because my BPD

mother's sense of touch was so sensitive that she was given a job during WWII

where she sat in a room and handled super expensive parts for war planes. Her

bosses realized that she could tell if a piece of metal was out of tolerance

just by picking it up before she ever used an instrument to actually measure it.

However I came by these heintened senses, I have come to feel they are more of a

blessing because I do tend to experience things very deeply and as long as I am

careful, it's usually a good thing. Of course, it also means I tend to be hurt

easier, but I think I'd still have them if I was given the choice. Very

interesting topic - I hope other people post of their experiences.

Tag

> > >

> > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> > not a

> > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > different. It

> > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > >

> > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > > interested in this.

> > >

> > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > letters

> > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> > numbers are

> > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> > all the

> > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > >

> > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> > don't

> > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> > skin is

> > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and

> > I

> > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> > sense

> > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > people

> > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> > and

> > > flavors.

> > >

> > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> > genetic deal

> > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. .

> > .

> > > sensitive.

> > >

> > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

> > names

> > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > sounds,

> > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that

> > DO

> > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > >

> > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> > migraines and

> > > fibromyalgia.

> > >

> > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > segregation.

> > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > Beethoven

> > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > creamed

> > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> > do not

> > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which

> > the

> > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > mingling

> > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

OMG Tag, its soooo cool and yet so exhausting!!!!

I don't think i could even recognize Kitty Dukakis from a WHOLE eyebrow, ha

ha ha ha

Yeah, i have some really weird memory things too. I forget numbers but if

you mention your ex brother in laws first dog's puppy's name, I'll remember

it for the rest of my life. It is actually kind of scary because people

think I am stalking them. . . I've learned to fake that I don't remember

that their first cousin likes juicy fruit gum and not bubble gum. Oh shoot,

and I do remember birthdays. I don't even write them down!!! I just remember

them in my head. That's weird, isn't it? And not just for close friends, but

I could tell you my major prof in grad school's bday, my first boss and on

and on. . .

I think in my case it is NATURE plus NURTURE. does that make sense? I know I

was born extra sensitive because my mother has some of those traits (as well

as extreme obtuseness in some areas too, but I think she was pretending to

be helpless 90 percent of the time when she did dumb stuff, does that make

sense? Waif/victim behavior). But anyway, because I was born with incredibly

sensitive skin, and I bruise incredibly easily, almost to the point that it

is disabling, I know that some of it is genetic. But then its nurture too

because the facial expression recognition software helped know when the rage

was coming, and the super hearing helped eavesdrop on the nada's phone

converstations to know if someone was going to the mental hospital or why

mommy was so angry this time. . .

One of my best traits is that I can recognize voices. Voices I've only heard

once, sometimes. I never forget a voice.

And then one of my weirder traits - i am actually pretty amazing at time

management. i mean, calendars, billing by the hour, arriving on time,

stacking a day so that it is packed but not impossible - I suspect that's

nurture because I had to manage EVERYONE's calendars or I would miss

everything I cared about.

I wish I could do the number thing. I actually have to call my boyfriend

every time I need to write out a big number with zeros and commas. In my

line of work, we just change it to about 1.5 million or whatever, we don't

even bother to do the zeros ha ha. That said, I'm not awful with numbers, I

can whip out health statistics in no time. I guess its just practice.

I don't think I'll ever stop being curious about this part of myself. Its so

weird to me to be around muggles who don't even see what's in front of them,

let alone have spidey senses. I sometimes want to smack my boyfriend in the

back of the head because I have to break down every single detail all the

time. And he's not even THAT insensitive. . . And waif boss - well you can

imagine, she only notices what she WANTS to see and what matches her world

view. But when you tell her something directly, she doesn't hear a word.

NEVER catches a word of what I say. Never mentions she's going to miss a

meeting, never makes a plan of action, never prioritizes. . .

Ugh, she has been in the office for about 1 hr 45 min, and is already

bugging me, by 1) whining about being tired. She can't sleep because of an

untreated anxiety disorder and I am sick of hearing her complain while

trying NOTHING to help herself and 2) ignoring a major problem with a

client, but being very very interested in my outfit. For fucks sake, I have

no meetings and I had a 2 hour physical therapy session, who gives a shit if

I wear sneakers. I actually know she doesn't care if I wear sneakers, I

think she just is keeping a mental log of who has what new outfit, almost

like a treasure log, a salary comparison or. . maybe she's just trying to

keep it light but has no other interests. I don't know but after 5 years of

daily 30 min discussions about shoes and haircuts, I'm ready for a new

subject of conversation!!!!!!!!! Plus, no matter what I wear she always

accuses me of wearing something new. I could wear the same thing 50 times

and she would say " is that new " ? NO ITS NOT NEW!!!

Oh dear, I digress. . . 26.5 more hours of this to go this week.

> **

>

>

>

>

> Hi Girlscout - I think we have talked before. So...I don't have synethesia

> which is what I believe you are describing, but I am hyper-sensitive in

> other ways and I've thought a lot about how it might relate to my Nada's BPD

> as well. Here are my rambling thoughts on it.

>

> I have extremely keen vision, but I believe part of it comes from the fact

> that I run pretty high on adrenaline which dilates the pupils. This is a

> primal response in the human and animal body - adrenaline blows your pupils

> so you be able to see to run away from a threat. Unfortunately, if my pupils

> blow in say - a grocery store - it can lead to visual overload depending on

> what aisle I'm in. This leads to a bit of a viscious circle with anxiety

> escalating because things looks " weird. " I also have acute hearing and can

> listen to several conversations at once. And, I also have really weird

> sensitivities like going to the eye doctor and being able to tell him that

> my ocular pressure is slightly higher in one eye when they do the glaucoma

> test - something the doctor said I could never perceive, but I get it right

> every time. Like you, I can pick out tastes and smells and I'm very good in

> the kitchen.

>

> Sometimes I think this hyper-sensitivity is the result of having to

> constantly be on guard with my BPD Nada so I would be able to escape from

> her rages as soon as they started. I spent a great deal of time studying her

> face (and then other people's faces) and I can generally read someone's

> emotions so well it is downright painful. I can also recognize people in

> pictures (like celebrities) from a small quadrant of their face. I

> discovered this years ago while playing a game called ID. No one would play

> it with me after I identified Kitty Dukakis from the tip of her right

> eyebrow. Somehow, seeing one part of the face, my brain mentally fills in

> the rest. I also have a photographic memory for phone numbers because I can

> see them in my mind.

>

> Maybe it's genetic and unrelated from having to be " on guard " because my

> BPD mother's sense of touch was so sensitive that she was given a job during

> WWII where she sat in a room and handled super expensive parts for war

> planes. Her bosses realized that she could tell if a piece of metal was out

> of tolerance just by picking it up before she ever used an instrument to

> actually measure it.

>

> However I came by these heintened senses, I have come to feel they are more

> of a blessing because I do tend to experience things very deeply and as long

> as I am careful, it's usually a good thing. Of course, it also means I tend

> to be hurt easier, but I think I'd still have them if I was given the

> choice. Very interesting topic - I hope other people post of their

> experiences.

>

> Tag

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> > > not a

> > > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > > different. It

> > > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > > > interested in this.

> > > >

> > > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > > letters

> > > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> > > numbers are

> > > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> > > all the

> > > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > > >

> > > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> > > don't

> > > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> > > skin is

> > > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive

> and

> > > I

> > > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> > > sense

> > > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > > people

> > > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> > > and

> > > > flavors.

> > > >

> > > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> > > genetic deal

> > > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well.

> .

> > > .

> > > > sensitive.

> > > >

> > > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having

> color,

> > > names

> > > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > > sounds,

> > > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance

> I

> > > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats

> that

> > > DO

> > > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > > >

> > > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> > > migraines and

> > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > >

> > > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > segregation.

> > > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > > Beethoven

> > > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > > creamed

> > > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> > > do not

> > > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in

> which

> > > the

> > > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > mingling

> > > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Crazy about your boss - you and I apprently work for the same person! It's good

to talk to you and glad to know I am not the only one who gets perceived as a

stalker because I also remember tiny little details. My brain records stuff

constantly on the smallest minutia, so I am a great person for birthdays, little

known likes and dislikes of people, gift giving. I have to edit myself all the

time around people I know casually because otherwise I would come off like some

kind of crazy stalker. We might be weird, but we're cool.

Tag

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> > > > not a

> > > > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > > > different. It

> > > > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > > > > interested in this.

> > > > >

> > > > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > > > letters

> > > > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> > > > numbers are

> > > > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> > > > all the

> > > > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> > > > don't

> > > > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> > > > skin is

> > > > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive

> > and

> > > > I

> > > > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> > > > sense

> > > > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > > > people

> > > > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> > > > and

> > > > > flavors.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> > > > genetic deal

> > > > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well.

> > .

> > > > .

> > > > > sensitive.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having

> > color,

> > > > names

> > > > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > > > sounds,

> > > > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance

> > I

> > > > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats

> > that

> > > > DO

> > > > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > > > >

> > > > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > > > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> > > > migraines and

> > > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > > segregation.

> > > > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > > > Beethoven

> > > > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > > > creamed

> > > > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> > > > do not

> > > > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in

> > which

> > > > the

> > > > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > > mingling

> > > > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hey Girlscout,

In repsonse to what tagimit said, my siblings and myself are similar. My sister

and I have slight synthesia (I associate smells with people [like, you for

instance, Girlscout, smell like brownies, and I've never even physically met

you!] and colors/images with words; she says numbers have feelings, like

physical touch, but that's about it) but my mother, and grandmothers all have

heightened senses that all of my siblings have.

My paternal grandmother can touch electronics like toasters and be able to tell

if it's plugged in. She taught me how to do this and was really pleased that I

could. It's like a faint vibration in your fingertips and I can tell if phones,

computers, etc. are on. Kind of a pleasant, warming feeling.

My maternal grandmother also " cooks by smell " , something I definitely can't do!

My nada has perfect pitch and says she can do this by being able to " see " where

the note is.

My paternal uncle however, said after he recovered from cancer, his sense of

smell was totally different and more keen. Unrelated, but cool.

As for the heightened sensitivities, I also run on adrenaline and am very

sensitive to touch. I am very sensitive though and too much stuff going on

easily overwhelms me. Crowds are difficult at times. I can become accustomed to

some sensory overload, but most leaves me feeling burnt out and sleepy.

Clefairy

> > > >

> > > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> > > not a

> > > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > > different. It

> > > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be very

> > > > interested in this.

> > > >

> > > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and some

> > > letters

> > > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> > > numbers are

> > > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> > > all the

> > > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > > >

> > > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that I

> > > don't

> > > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that my

> > > skin is

> > > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive and

> > > I

> > > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare my

> > > sense

> > > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than most

> > > people

> > > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> > > and

> > > > flavors.

> > > >

> > > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> > > genetic deal

> > > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . . well. .

> > > .

> > > > sensitive.

> > > >

> > > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having color,

> > > names

> > > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > > sounds,

> > > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I dance I

> > > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats that

> > > DO

> > > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > > >

> > > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I also

> > > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> > > migraines and

> > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > >

> > > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > segregation.

> > > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > > Beethoven

> > > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > > creamed

> > > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the senses

> > > do not

> > > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in which

> > > the

> > > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > mingling

> > > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

BROWNIES!!! RAD!!!

I do smell like brownies. HA HA HA

Clefairy that is SO COOL! You are amazing. And yeah, I do wonder if its

somehow related to the BPD gene. I might need to study that.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:10 PM, clefairy_looking_for_moonstone <

clefairy_looking_for_moonstone@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hey Girlscout,

>

> In repsonse to what tagimit said, my siblings and myself are similar. My

> sister and I have slight synthesia (I associate smells with people [like,

> you for instance, Girlscout, smell like brownies, and I've never even

> physically met you!] and colors/images with words; she says numbers have

> feelings, like physical touch, but that's about it) but my mother, and

> grandmothers all have heightened senses that all of my siblings have.

> My paternal grandmother can touch electronics like toasters and be able to

> tell if it's plugged in. She taught me how to do this and was really pleased

> that I could. It's like a faint vibration in your fingertips and I can tell

> if phones, computers, etc. are on. Kind of a pleasant, warming feeling.

> My maternal grandmother also " cooks by smell " , something I definitely can't

> do!

> My nada has perfect pitch and says she can do this by being able to " see "

> where the note is.

> My paternal uncle however, said after he recovered from cancer, his sense

> of smell was totally different and more keen. Unrelated, but cool.

>

> As for the heightened sensitivities, I also run on adrenaline and am very

> sensitive to touch. I am very sensitive though and too much stuff going on

> easily overwhelms me. Crowds are difficult at times. I can become accustomed

> to some sensory overload, but most leaves me feeling burnt out and sleepy.

>

> Clefairy

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I may have posted about this before, but i have this thing. Its

> > > > not a

> > > > > handicap or a disability, its just something about me that is

> > > > different. It

> > > > > maybe could even be looked at as a talent or gift.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry if I have written about this before - but I continue to be

> very

> > > > > interested in this.

> > > > >

> > > > > I see, and have for as long as I can remember, seen numbers and

> some

> > > > letters

> > > > > as having personalities. Evens are female. Odds are male. Prime

> > > > numbers are

> > > > > unkind. Two is always yellow (bright yellow) and is the gentlest of

> > > > all the

> > > > > numbers. One is white and is quite boring. HA HA

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm adding this to the fact that I am extremely sensitive - by that

> I

> > > > don't

> > > > > mean I'm emotionally sensitive (though I am). What I mean is that

> my

> > > > skin is

> > > > > sensitive, my hearing is sensitive, my sense of smell is sensitive

> and

> > > > I

> > > > > have much better vision than average. I'm not sure how to compare

> my

> > > > sense

> > > > > of taste to other people's but I am much pickier about food than

> most

> > > > people

> > > > > I know and I'm great in the kitchen and I have a talent with spices

> > > > and

> > > > > flavors.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I just kind of wonder if I have some weird nada-passed-down

> > > > genetic deal

> > > > > that makes me different. Fortunately it didn't manifest in BPD or

> > > > > schizophrenia or whatever - but yeah, neurologically I'm . . .

> well. .

> > > > .

> > > > > sensitive.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is a description of it. I relate very much to sound having

> color,

> > > > names

> > > > > having smells or flavor, even physical sensations I can relate to

> > > > sounds,

> > > > > for example, when I move I kind of hear percussion. . . when I

> dance I

> > > > > always sing percussion to match and I often teach dances to beats

> that

> > > > DO

> > > > > NOT exist in the music. . . Anyway

> > > > >

> > > > > Do any other KOs have THIS MUCH weirdness to their neurology? I

> also

> > > > > have extremely sensitive circadian rhythms, and I am prone to

> > > > migraines and

> > > > > fibromyalgia.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Most people experience the sensory world as a place of orderly

> > > > segregation.

> > > > > Sight, sound, smell, taste and touch are distinct and separate: A

> > > > Beethoven

> > > > > symphony is not pink and azure; the name does not taste like

> > > > creamed

> > > > > spinach. Yet there are those for whom these basic rules of the

> senses

> > > > do not

> > > > > seem to apply. They have a rare condition called Synesthesia, in

> which

> > > > the

> > > > > customary boundaries between the senses appear to break down, sight

> > > > mingling

> > > > > with sound, or taste with touch. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >