Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Oh is Yasko an ND? I thought she was just a PHD? But I kind of agree with her assessment. We are on her supps now too (just a few) and they are great IMO. It makes a huge difference for some kids and lots of doctors are using it. You might want to read what Yasko says about glutamate for another perspective - she doesn't use namenda as she is an ND. She says glutamate is the gun and calcium is the bullet. And yes some disagree with her. > > It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda > for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase > calmness? > > Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, > which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by glutamate. > My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your child's > brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and learn by > using this drug? > > The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated > by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, > which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they > use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. > > The two big ones are: > > 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. > This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long > lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest > being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are > often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. > > 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as > efficiently as they should. > Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a > gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten > sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts > Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid > Decarboxylase)Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a > gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 > > I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their > doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. > > I hope this helps. > > Yours in health, > > Dr. Mike > > A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACAN > Defeat Autism Now! Clinician > > Diplomate of the American Chiropractic Academy of Neurology > > 115 Eileen Way, Suite 107 > Syosset, NY 11791 > > > 1085 Park Ave, Suite 1E > New York, NY 10128 > > _www.NYCFutureDocs.com_ (http://www.nycfuturedocs.com/) > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Thanks Channa for that! I have 5HTP on my list. Have you heard of kids with ultrasensitive guts doing ok with it? Any recs on which are "cleanest" versions of 5htp? Will have to look into the others. I know my son's neurotransmitters were really high when we tested a year ago but i feel like the drs. haven't addressed those directly ....not sure why???..... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Re: Namenda i sent a post that i think got lost in cyberspace...i wanted to mention....5htp and theanine work great in calming over excited glutamate receptors in my sons brain for some people like my son. also to a lesser extent valerian (high in gaba) also i really like neuroprotek and PS, those are for brain inflammation....but of course you always start with the diet! removing offending foods like gluten and in my sons case many other foods and if that doesnt help look into pathogen overload being the culpirit channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:17 AMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Good point. I don't think I mentioned that my son has seizure activity and was already GF and on gobs of GABA to get a response. Also, had eliminated excitotixins and were on low oxalate diet.The gobs of GABA, etc, did not help as much as the GabaPlus and B6 and magnesium.B6 and mag being other natural ways to calm the brain and seizure activity.I only considered Namenda as an alternative to the anti-seizure meds the neurologist was pushing, which had severe side effects.Now, thank goodness we have not had to do any of the RXs for him.Georgiasand, and is, hope you find your answers. :-) Hope I didn't derail this thread. PS Thanks for the reminder, I am going to see if I can get the doc to pull a GAD blood test. It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase calmness? Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by glutamate. My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your child's brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and learn by using this drug? The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. The two big ones are: 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as efficiently as they should. Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid Decarboxylase), you are left with increased glutamate levels which keep the brain excited and not enough GABA which shuts the brain down. I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. I hope this helps.Yours in health, Dr. Mike A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACANDefeat Autism Now! Clinician Diplomate of the American Chiropractic Academy of Neurology115 Eileen Way, Suite 107Syosset, NY 117911085 Park Ave, Suite 1ENew York, NY 10128www.NYCFutureDocs.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't think there is an accurate way to know the levels of neurotransmitters at the brain level by measuring other things like blood and urine. I think the way to be sure is measuring CSF but then again I guess that might not be either. It was a lot of trial and error (A LOT!) before we found something that worked here for my son.5htp seemed to be helpful for a while but I removed it and we are ok without it. Fingers crossed. LOL Thanks Channa for that! I have 5HTP on my list. Have you heard of kids with ultrasensitive guts doing ok with it? Any recs on which are " cleanest " versions of 5htp? Will have to look into the others. I know my son's neurotransmitters were really high when we tested a year ago but i feel like the drs. haven't addressed those directly ....not sure why???..... To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: Re: Re: Namenda i sent a post that i think got lost in cyberspace...i wanted to mention....5htp and theanine work great in calming over excited glutamate receptors in my sons brain for some people like my son. also to a lesser extent valerian (high in gaba) also i really like neuroprotek and PS, those are for brain inflammation....but of course you always start with the diet! removing offending foods like gluten and in my sons case many other foods and if that doesnt help look into pathogen overload being the culpirit channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:17 AMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Good point. I don't think I mentioned that my son has seizure activity and was already GF and on gobs of GABA to get a response. Also, had eliminated excitotixins and were on low oxalate diet.The gobs of GABA, etc, did not help as much as the GabaPlus and B6 and magnesium. B6 and mag being other natural ways to calm the brain and seizure activity.I only considered Namenda as an alternative to the anti-seizure meds the neurologist was pushing, which had severe side effects.Now, thank goodness we have not had to do any of the RXs for him. Georgiasand, and is, hope you find your answers. :-) Hope I didn't derail this thread. PS Thanks for the reminder, I am going to see if I can get the doc to pull a GAD blood test. It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase calmness? Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by glutamate. My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your child's brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and learn by using this drug? The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. The two big ones are: 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as efficiently as they should. Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid Decarboxylase), you are left with increased glutamate levels which keep the brain excited and not enough GABA which shuts the brain down. I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. I hope this helps.Yours in health, Dr. Mike A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACANDefeat Autism Now! 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 NeuroLab in the UK - Dr. Galkina Analysis of Brain Chemistry tries to do this. > > > > ** > > > > ** > > It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda > > for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase > > calmness? > > > > Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, > > which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by > > glutamate. My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your > > child's brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and > > learn by using this drug? > > > > The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated > > by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, > > which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they > > use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. > > > > The two big ones are: > > > > 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. > > This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long > > lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest > > being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are > > often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. > > > > 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as > > efficiently as they should. > > Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a > > gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten > > sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts > > Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid > > Decarboxylase)**, you are left with increased glutamate levels which keep > > the brain excited and not enough GABA which shuts the brain down. > > > > I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their > > doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Yours in health, > > > > Dr. Mike > > > > * A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACAN** > > Defeat Autism Now! Clinician * > > Diplomate of the American Chiropractic Academy of Neurology > > > > 115 Eileen Way, Suite 107 > > Syosset, NY 11791 > > > > > > 1085 Park Ave, Suite 1E > > New York, NY 10128 > > > > www.NYCFutureDocs.com <http://www.nycfuturedocs.com/> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals: > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet : > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 > > ------ > > Toni > > > > ------ > > Mind like a steel trap... > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals: > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet : > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 > ------ > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 LOL Google here I come! :-) NeuroLab in the UK - Dr. Galkina Analysis of Brain Chemistry tries to do this. > > > > ** > > > > ** > > It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda > > for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase > > calmness? > > > > Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, > > which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by > > glutamate. My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your > > child's brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and > > learn by using this drug? > > > > The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated > > by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, > > which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they > > use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. > > > > The two big ones are: > > > > 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. > > This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long > > lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest > > being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are > > often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. > > > > 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as > > efficiently as they should. > > Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a > > gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten > > sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts > > Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid > > Decarboxylase)**, you are left with increased glutamate levels which keep > > the brain excited and not enough GABA which shuts the brain down. > > > > I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their > > doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Yours in health, > > > > Dr. Mike > > > > * A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACAN** > > Defeat Autism Now! Clinician * > > Diplomate of the American Chiropractic Academy of Neurology > > > > 115 Eileen Way, Suite 107 > > Syosset, NY 11791 > > > > > > 1085 Park Ave, Suite 1E > > New York, NY 10128 > > > > www.NYCFutureDocs.com <http://www.nycfuturedocs.com/> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals: > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet : > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 > > ------ > > Toni > > > > ------ > > Mind like a steel trap... > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals: > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet : > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 > ------ > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 i didnt use the cleanest 5htp...whatever i found at health store...surc naturals was one brand i used... also i wanted to mention i used theanine which i specifically read helps with glutamate excitability and added the 5 htp which enhanced the effect greatly.... so i recomend giving the two together... also wanted to mention after reading part of the article tammy posted on huntingtons......i find niacin the flushing kind really calming for my son......in the article they talk about energy problems in the cell as a cause for glutamate issues...which im guessing is a mitochondrial issue? so niacin helps greatly with the cells energy department....maybe the niacin also effects glutamate issues? channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Thanks Channa for that! I have 5HTP on my list. Have you heard of kids with ultrasensitive guts doing ok with it? Any recs on which are "cleanest" versions of 5htp? Will have to look into the others. I know my son's neurotransmitters were really high when we tested a year ago but i feel like the drs. haven't addressed those directly ....not sure why???..... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:15 PMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 megan also i noticed when my sons diet is veering off track i found the 5 htp/theanine didnt work so good.. so i really am obbsessive about his diet...and then i find the most the supps do what they spose to do i find having OCD helps as a parent To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Thanks Channa for that! I have 5HTP on my list. Have you heard of kids with ultrasensitive guts doing ok with it? Any recs on which are "cleanest" versions of 5htp? Will have to look into the others. I know my son's neurotransmitters were really high when we tested a year ago but i feel like the drs. haven't addressed those directly ....not sure why???..... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:15 PMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda i sent a post that i think got lost in cyberspace...i wanted to mention....5htp and theanine work great in calming over excited glutamate receptors in my sons brain for some people like my son. also to a lesser extent valerian (high in gaba) also i really like neuroprotek and PS, those are for brain inflammation....but of course you always start with the diet! removing offending foods like gluten and in my sons case many other foods and if that doesnt help look into pathogen overload being the culpirit channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:17 AMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Good point. I don't think I mentioned that my son has seizure activity and was already GF and on gobs of GABA to get a response. Also, had eliminated excitotixins and were on low oxalate diet.The gobs of GABA, etc, did not help as much as the GabaPlus and B6 and magnesium.B6 and mag being other natural ways to calm the brain and seizure activity.I only considered Namenda as an alternative to the anti-seizure meds the neurologist was pushing, which had severe side effects.Now, thank goodness we have not had to do any of the RXs for him.Georgiasand, and is, hope you find your answers. :-) Hope I didn't derail this thread. PS Thanks for the reminder, I am going to see if I can get the doc to pull a GAD blood test. It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase calmness? Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by glutamate. My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your child's brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and learn by using this drug? The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. The two big ones are: 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as efficiently as they should. Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid Decarboxylase), you are left with increased glutamate levels which keep the brain excited and not enough GABA which shuts the brain down. I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. I hope this helps.Yours in health, Dr. Mike A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACANDefeat Autism Now! Clinician Diplomate of the American Chiropractic Academy of Neurology115 Eileen Way, Suite 107Syosset, NY 117911085 Park Ave, Suite 1ENew York, NY 10128www.NYCFutureDocs.com-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Dr. Woeller also suggests elemental lithium. He explains glutamate issues very nicely @ his website. -Tammy To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: Namenda megan also i noticed when my sons diet is veering off track i found the 5 htp/theanine didnt work so good.. so i really am obbsessive about his diet...and then i find the most the supps do what they spose to do i find having OCD helps as a parent To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 6:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Thanks Channa for that! I have 5HTP on my list. Have you heard of kids with ultrasensitive guts doing ok with it? Any recs on which are "cleanest" versions of 5htp? Will have to look into the others. I know my son's neurotransmitters were really high when we tested a year ago but i feel like the drs. haven't addressed those directly ....not sure why???..... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:15 PMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda i sent a post that i think got lost in cyberspace...i wanted to mention....5htp and theanine work great in calming over excited glutamate receptors in my sons brain for some people like my son. also to a lesser extent valerian (high in gaba) also i really like neuroprotek and PS, those are for brain inflammation....but of course you always start with the diet! removing offending foods like gluten and in my sons case many other foods and if that doesnt help look into pathogen overload being the culpirit channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:17 AMSubject: Re: Re: Namenda Good point. I don't think I mentioned that my son has seizure activity and was already GF and on gobs of GABA to get a response. Also, had eliminated excitotixins and were on low oxalate diet.The gobs of GABA, etc, did not help as much as the GabaPlus and B6 and magnesium.B6 and mag being other natural ways to calm the brain and seizure activity.I only considered Namenda as an alternative to the anti-seizure meds the neurologist was pushing, which had severe side effects.Now, thank goodness we have not had to do any of the RXs for him.Georgiasand, and is, hope you find your answers. :-) Hope I didn't derail this thread. PS Thanks for the reminder, I am going to see if I can get the doc to pull a GAD blood test. It is key to understand why a doctor would prescribe a drug like Namenda for a child on the spectrum. Is it to reduce hyperactivity or to increase calmness? Namenda is used in Alzheimer's disease as an NMDA receptor antagonist, which means it blocks the NMDA receptor from being turned 'on' by glutamate. My question is, do you realize that you are shutting down your child's brain to a certain degree and not allowing it to grow, expand and learn by using this drug? The NMDA receptor is the main 'on' switch for the brain. It is activated by glutamate. In pathological situations, it can be turned on and kept on, which leads to excitotoxicity and eventually cell death. That is why they use Namenda. By why would a child with ASD have a situation like this. The two big ones are: 1. They are being exposed to excitotoxins that mimic glutamate. This would cause overstimulation of the NMDA receptors. There are long lists of things easily found on the web that are excitotoxins. The biggest being MSG and Aspartame, but there are many names for these and they are often hidden in many foods that we are exposed to. 2. The next is that they can't naturally convert glutamate to gaba as efficiently as they should. Look at Gluten sensitivity. The antibodies that are built up against a gluten in a person with this sensitivity (now 1 in 3 people are Gluten sensitive) have been found to attack GAD which is the enzyme that converts Glutamate to GABA in the body. Without sufficient GAD (Glutamic Acid Decarboxylase), you are left with increased glutamate levels which keep the brain excited and not enough GABA which shuts the brain down. I hate to see kids put on meds as a 1st line therapy, especially if their doctor has not considered all of the biochemical reasons for their issues. I hope this helps.Yours in health, Dr. Mike A. Gruttadauria, DC, DACANDefeat Autism Now! Clinician Diplomate of the American Chiropractic Academy of Neurology115 Eileen Way, Suite 107Syosset, NY 117911085 Park Ave, Suite 1ENew York, NY 10128www.NYCFutureDocs.com-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 We did Neuroscience neurotransmitter testing early on. Very enlightening. Mia's excitatory NT's were the highest our DR had ever seen. Unfortunately the only direction we received was to take a couple of supplements that manage the symptoms. This group's understanding just in this last round of discussions is better. But the testing was fantastic. https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?p=home > > > ** > > > > > > NeuroLab in the UK - Dr. Galkina Analysis of Brain Chemistry tries to do > > this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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