Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 EMSAT was at GETAC, EMSAT gave Testimony regarding the commission, and EMSAT encouraged the EMS Committee to support the EMS Commission task force, which is now a reality, and should be announced at the next GETAC meetings. EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Thanks Mike for the information. I wish EMSAT would post updates to this list and the EMSAT list to keep members informed. Bernie Stafford EMTP _____ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:58 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: EMS Commission EMSAT was at GETAC, EMSAT gave Testimony regarding the commission, and EMSAT encouraged the EMS Committee to support the EMS Commission task force, which is now a reality, and should be announced at the next GETAC meetings. EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Ahhh.... a task force.... probably with stakeholders and consensus.... we're doomed. -Wes EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Well, after the poop-storm that ensued after people tried to get a commission through the last legislature without " consensus and stakeholders " I think this might be a more PC way to go! Mike EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 PC, maybe... Diluted by " stakeholders " with no real stake in EMS - definitely. -Wes EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 " Diluted by " stakeholders " with no real stake in EMS " not sure I understand that statement....what did you mean? Mike EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 A friend of mine who has worked in state government defined stakeholders as those who shouldn't have any right to say what happens but are given a say anyways. In other words, what do you want to bet the Texas EMS Commission will be stacked with lots of non-EMS people and the executive director will be a nursing or a public health type? -Wes EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I'll be the devil's advocate here....who isn't a stakeholder in EMS? The public, hospitals, docs, local government, state government, RACs, emergency management, FDs, public safety, academia, medical schools all have a stake in EMS because they are touched by EMS in some way, shape, form or fashion. Since we serve the public, and are a mix breed of clinical medicine, public health and public safety, we have a broad constituency. My bet is that it will look a lot like the current Governor's advisory board with an infrastructure driven by what falls under the EMS commission's jurisdiction...just EMS certification of individuals (ala BNE) or certification of individuals and providers (old, old TDH) or certifications of individuals, providers and trauma designation of facilities (current DSHS). The broader the scope, the more stakeholders. Since we're starting with a blank slate, we have the opportunity to draw the picture as we see fit, hopefully with the buy-in of the other stakeholders. We just have to realize that no matter what the final outcome, we have to make sure there are people out there with the credentials, experience and capability of running that entity. Which leads us back to the old (at least three of four dead horses old) discussion about higher education, undergraduate and graduate degrees and the role it will play in our profession. Education isn't just about what we do today and the " what will " (that's training), education prepares us for tomorrow and what if. Wes is right in that the person running it may not come from EMS ranks. But, good or bad, the public health, nursing, business and many other fields have got their academic preparation ducks in a row, priming the pump for when opportunity knocks to raise the bar for their respective professions. Just my $.000568 cents worth of knowledgeable insight. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Exercise Coordinator Community Preparedness Section Texas Department of State Health Services Phone: x2665 BlackBerry: Fax: Barry.Sharp@... EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 that could very well be true. In essence, out of the frying pan (DSHS) into the fire (EMS Commission) EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 In other words, the moral is to be careful what we ask for. Let's make sure the legislation is well-drafted and doesn't come out of the legislative committee process looking vastly different from what we've proposed. I can just picture the " nightmare " scenario -- a nurse executive director overseen by a commission made up of urban fire chiefs proposing statewide protocols... -Wes EMS Commission My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? Bernie Stafford EMTP -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I agree that our education is of importance. I however also know we have educated individuals within the ranks of EMS that have the insight and the heart to follow through with what needs to be done. We need to have an individual in charge of this Commission that has come from EMS and who will have EMS as the main focus for the duties of the commission. Anything less is not an EMS Commission. To say that EMS does not have anyone with the education to be in charge of the Commission is false and will destroy what the EMS Commission will stand for. It has not been that long ago that nurses became organized. EMS can do the same. Fight the Good Fight, Never Give Up and Never Surrender. Just my opinion. Barry Sharp wrote: I'll be the devil's advocate here....who isn't a stakeholder in EMS? The public, hospitals, docs, local government, state government, RACs, emergency management, FDs, public safety, academia, medical schools all have a stake in EMS because they are touched by EMS in some way, shape, form or fashion. Since we serve the public, and are a mix breed of clinical medicine, public health and public safety, we have a broad constituency. My bet is that it will look a lot like the current Governor's advisory board with an infrastructure driven by what falls under the EMS commission's jurisdiction...just EMS certification of individuals (ala BNE) or certification of individuals and providers (old, old TDH) or certifications of individuals, providers and trauma designation of facilities (current DSHS). The broader the scope, the more stakeholders. Since we're starting with a blank slate, we have the opportunity to draw the picture as we see fit, hopefully with the buy-in of the other stakeholders. We just have to realize that no matter what the final outcome, we have to make sure there are people out there with the credentials, experience and capability of running that entity. Which leads us back to the old (at least three of four dead horses old) discussion about higher education, undergraduate and graduate degrees and the role it will play in our profession. Education isn't just about what we do today and the " what will " (that's training), education prepares us for tomorrow and what if. Wes is right in that the person running it may not come from EMS ranks. But, good or bad, the public health, nursing, business and many other fields have got their academic preparation ducks in a row, priming the pump for when opportunity knocks to raise the bar for their respective professions. Just my $.000568 cents worth of knowledgeable insight. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Exercise Coordinator Community Preparedness Section Texas Department of State Health Services Phone: x2665 BlackBerry: Fax: Barry.Sharp@... Danny L. Owner/NREMT-P Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response (PETSAR) Office Fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 In a message dated 3/31/06 8:51:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, staffdoc@... writes: My question is what is EMSAT doing ??? Has this been discussed by the EMSAT board and if so do they have a plan. Several individuals have said we must organize and have numbers if an EMS Commission is to be become a reality which is a very true and accurate statement. Come on EMSAT, where are you?????? EMSAT has conducted a poll and is currently considering what level of support there is for another run at the Commission legislation. Without a strong backing from the EMS community, it makes little sense to proceed. I am sure this will be on the agenda for the next EMSAT meeting which is tentatively scheduled for May 17th, pending meeting room availability and double checking for conflicts. If this is something a majority of the members think we should do, I feel certain that it will be a high priority for the association. If this is the case, we will need support from the ground up to give it the momentum it will need. , President EMSAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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