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I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

a day.

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I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having multiple afib

events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the evening... for

years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as a trigger,

and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the afib at bay. I

think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger, and for others not so

much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just one glass... I don't at

all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise either.

I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine and

my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so frequently, and

especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might risk a glass

or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some every day, much

as I'd like to.

martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

a day.

Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

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send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

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my warfarin

dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

If I understand well your INR level was too low

And therefore you had to increase your warfarin dosage.

Am I right?

Regards, Ervin

_____

From: AFIBsupport [mailto:AFIBsupport ] On

Behalf Of Quarter Acre Orchids

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:16 AM

To: AFIBsupport

Subject: Re: natural blood thinning

I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having multiple

afib events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the evening...

for years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as a

trigger, and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the

afib at bay. I think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger, and

for others not so much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just one

glass... I don't at all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise

either.

I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine

and my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so frequently,

and especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might risk

a glass or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some

every day, much as I'd like to.

martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

a day.

Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be

acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

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I think more on the lines that beer & wine were making up for the extra

dose`s of Warfarin which I now have to take, but up to then my inr was

constant 2.5 & 3.

Regards

> my warfarin

> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

>

> If I understand well your INR level was too low

>

> And therefore you had to increase your warfarin dosage.

>

> Am I right?

>

>

>

> Regards, Ervin

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: AFIBsupport [mailto:AFIBsupport ] On

> Behalf Of Quarter Acre Orchids

> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:16 AM

> To: AFIBsupport

> Subject: Re: natural blood thinning

>

>

>

> I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having multiple

> afib events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the

> evening...

> for years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as a

> trigger, and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the

> afib at bay. I think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger, and

> for others not so much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just

> one

> glass... I don't at all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise

> either.

>

> I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine

> and my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so frequently,

> and especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might

> risk

> a glass or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some

> every day, much as I'd like to.

>

> martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

> I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

> expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

> This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

> like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

> the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

> I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

> avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

> would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

> a day.

>

>

>

>

>

> Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

>

> Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should

> be

> acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

>

>

>

>

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It all depends. I have found alcohol to be an AFIB trigger for me. I

had about a half a glass of wine one time and ended up in full blown

AFIB

Kathy

>

> I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

> expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

> This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

> like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have

checked

> the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one

please

> I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

> avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

> would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of

warfarin

> a day.

>

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I use the crystalised root ginger for its well documented blood thinning

properties as well as the anti inflammatary effects. (There are also ginger

capsules but I prefer the root/stem).

I do not however take Warfarin or Coumadin, I was prescribed Plavix

(Clopidogrel). I asked my cardio about the root ginger (I eat two square inch

pieces

after meals twice a day and take 75mg Plavix a day and my cardio thinks this

is fine but I am going to ask for an INR test.

I would be wary of using anything to thin the blood as well as Warfarin

without checking with your specialist first.

Take care!

Haze

In a message dated 04/02/2006 20:07:27 GMT Standard Time,

funinsun29@... writes:

>

> I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

> expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

> This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

> like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have

checked

> the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one

please

> I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

> avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

> would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of

warfarin

> a day.

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Wild salmon is a natural blood thinner. I have one meal of wild salmon per week

and my INR is constant, 2.5 - 3.5. My dosage is 5 mg every day except on Thurs,

it is 2 1/2 mg. I have had occasions where I have had two meals of salmon

(twice a week) and have found that my INR has risen to 3.7, 4.0 etc. I plan to

start having wild salmon twice a week and see if I can be 5mg, 5 days a week and

on the other 2 day take a dosage of 2 1/2mg. Natural blood thinner is better

than warfarin!

skubdoo skubdoo@...> wrote:

I think more on the lines that beer & wine were making up for the extra

dose`s of Warfarin which I now have to take, but up to then my inr was

constant 2.5 & 3.

Regards

> my warfarin

> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

>

> If I understand well your INR level was too low

>

> And therefore you had to increase your warfarin dosage.

>

> Am I right?

>

>

>

> Regards, Ervin

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: AFIBsupport [mailto:AFIBsupport ] On

> Behalf Of Quarter Acre Orchids

> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:16 AM

> To: AFIBsupport

> Subject: Re: natural blood thinning

>

>

>

> I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having multiple

> afib events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the

> evening...

> for years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as a

> trigger, and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the

> afib at bay. I think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger, and

> for others not so much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just

> one

> glass... I don't at all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise

> either.

>

> I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine

> and my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so frequently,

> and especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might

> risk

> a glass or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some

> every day, much as I'd like to.

>

> martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

> I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

> expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

> This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

> like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

> the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

> I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

> avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

> would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

> a day.

>

>

>

>

>

> Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

>

> Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should

> be

> acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

>

>

>

>

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Well done people in a fib should not take alchohol ever. It is like drinking

petrol and gives your body too much energy too quickly and strains the

heart. Eat a few red grapes a day instead. Instead of alchohol you should

turn things on thier head and think low GI food such as porridge etc.

Re: natural blood thinning

>>

>>

>>

>> I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having multiple

>> afib events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the

>> evening...

>> for years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as a

>> trigger, and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the

>> afib at bay. I think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger, and

>> for others not so much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just

>> one

>> glass... I don't at all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise

>> either.

>>

>> I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine

>> and my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so frequently,

>> and especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might

>> risk

>> a glass or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some

>> every day, much as I'd like to.

>>

>> martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

>> I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

>> expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

>> dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

>> This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

>> like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

>> the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

>> I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

>> avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

>> would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

>> a day.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

>> List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

>> For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

>> send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

>>

>> Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should

>> be

>> acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Thanks everyone regarding this subject, I shall take these answers up with

my Path lab and if they ok it, I shall give it a go....whatever they say I

shall post.

>

> Wild salmon is a natural blood thinner. I have one meal of wild salmon

> per week and my INR is constant, 2.5 - 3.5. My dosage is 5 mg every day

> except on Thurs, it is 2 1/2 mg. I have had occasions where I have had two

> meals of salmon (twice a week) and have found that my INR has risen to 3.7,

> 4.0 etc. I plan to start having wild salmon twice a week and see if I can

> be 5mg, 5 days a week and on the other 2 day take a dosage of 2

> 1/2mg. Natural blood thinner is better than warfarin!

>

> skubdoo skubdoo@...> wrote:

> I think more on the lines that beer & wine were making up for the extra

> dose`s of Warfarin which I now have to take, but up to then my inr was

> constant 2.5 & 3.

>

> Regards

>

>

>

>

>

> > my warfarin

> > dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

> >

> > If I understand well your INR level was too low

> >

> > And therefore you had to increase your warfarin dosage.

> >

> > Am I right?

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards, Ervin

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: AFIBsupport [mailto:AFIBsupport ]

> On

> > Behalf Of Quarter Acre Orchids

> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:16 AM

> > To: AFIBsupport

> > Subject: Re: natural blood thinning

> >

> >

> >

> > I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having

> multiple

> > afib events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the

> > evening...

> > for years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as

> a

> > trigger, and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the

> > afib at bay. I think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger,

> and

> > for others not so much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just

> > one

> > glass... I don't at all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise

> > either.

> >

> > I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine

> > and my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so

> frequently,

> > and especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might

> > risk

> > a glass or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some

> > every day, much as I'd like to.

> >

> > martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

> > I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

> > expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

> > dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

> > This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

> > like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

> > the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

> > I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

> > avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

> > would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

> > a day.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> >

> > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

> should

> > be

> > acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I for one will be looking out for what your Path lab says :) I hope you get

something interesting!

I am concerned sometimes that I maybe taking too many blood thinning things

as not only do I have the root ginger, but also cold liver oil, and Vitamin

E (which are both slightly blood thinning) and I also eat wild salmon at

least twice a week as I am a fish lover ( I dont eat red meat), but I had no

idea

it was blood thinning?

Is this because of the Omega's in it do you happen to know?

All the Doctors I have asked all say that I cannot be over-thinning my

blood if I am on the Daily recommended requirements of Cold Liver oil and Vit E

etc, and in all cases I am below RDI levels..but I certainly do notice that my

periods are lighter and more flow with them when on these supplements and

foods..so much so that pre-period I have had to cut out the Cod liver oil and

Vitamin E, and it has made a big difference between manageable and almost

unmanageable periods, so it is all thinning the blood for sure!

Haze

In a message dated 05/02/2006 09:18:39 GMT Standard Time,

skubdoo@... writes:

Thanks everyone regarding this subject, I shall take these answers up with

my Path lab and if they ok it, I shall give it a go....whatever they say I

shall post.

>

> Wild salmon is a natural blood thinner. I have one meal of wild salmon

> per week and my INR is constant, 2.5 - 3.5. My dosage is 5 mg every day

> except on Thurs, it is 2 1/2 mg. I have had occasions where I have had

two

> meals of salmon (twice a week) and have found that my INR has risen to 3.7,

> 4.0 etc. I plan to start having wild salmon twice a week and see if I can

> be 5mg, 5 days a week and on the other 2 day take a dosage of 2

> 1/2mg. Natural blood thinner is better than warfarin!

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I have spoken to the path lab and they say the use of supplements and herbal

remedies is frowned upon due to the fact that the manufacturing process can

be different from batch to batch as can the herbs etc.

Warfarin is manufactured to a standard and the medical profession know

exactly what it will or will not do as per presribed dose which is the

correct way, but this cannot be said about herbal remedies, and lets admit

it..it is rather hit and miss and when talking blood thinning for AF I want

it right.

I have been assured that a dose of warfarin in the 8 to 9 mg bracket is not

a lot and is classed as low, but at the end of the day what works for one

may not work for another.

>

>

>

>

> I for one will be looking out for what your Path lab says :) I hope you

> get

> something interesting!

> I am concerned sometimes that I maybe taking too many blood thinning

> things

> as not only do I have the root ginger, but also cold liver oil, and

> Vitamin

> E (which are both slightly blood thinning) and I also eat wild salmon at

> least twice a week as I am a fish lover ( I dont eat red meat), but I had

> no idea

> it was blood thinning?

> Is this because of the Omega's in it do you happen to know?

>

> All the Doctors I have asked all say that I cannot be over-thinning my

> blood if I am on the Daily recommended requirements of Cold Liver oil and

> Vit E

> etc, and in all cases I am below RDI levels..but I certainly do notice

> that my

> periods are lighter and more flow with them when on these supplements and

> foods..so much so that pre-period I have had to cut out the Cod liver oil

> and

> Vitamin E, and it has made a big difference between manageable and almost

> unmanageable periods, so it is all thinning the blood for sure!

> Haze

>

> In a message dated 05/02/2006 09:18:39 GMT Standard Time,

> skubdoo@... writes:

>

> Thanks everyone regarding this subject, I shall take these answers up

> with

> my Path lab and if they ok it, I shall give it a go....whatever they say

> I

> shall post.

>

>

> >

> > Wild salmon is a natural blood thinner. I have one meal of wild salmon

> > per week and my INR is constant, 2.5 - 3.5. My dosage is 5 mg every

> day

> > except on Thurs, it is 2 1/2 mg. I have had occasions where I have

> had

> two

> > meals of salmon (twice a week) and have found that my INR has risen to

> 3.7,

> > 4.0 etc. I plan to start having wild salmon twice a week and see if

> I can

> > be 5mg, 5 days a week and on the other 2 day take a dosage of 2

> > 1/2mg. Natural blood thinner is better than warfarin!

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

and thanks for reporting back about what the Path lab says..pretty

predictable and understandeable I guess, as professionally speaking they can't

be seen

to be advising FOR anything that hasnt had clinical trials and isn't proven

to work and as they do so rightly say it's not an exact science and there can

be variations in quality etc.

However they haven't got the drugs to be without side effects as yet, so its

horses for courses I guess. We may not get a clot/ stroke when using

Warfarin or Coumadin but we could get a haemorrage and they can be just as

devastating as a clot. Both my brother and husbands brother had cerebral

haemorrages

under the age of 40yrs and only just lived through them, both have changed

lives.

I personally have nothing against taking Warfarin or Coumadin if my

specialist wanted me to.(Apart from a slight concern about Osteoporosis) but he

doesnt think it necessary at the moment (That maybe my undoing!?)

However since he doesnt want to prescribe it presently and I am on a drug

that costs our Health Service a lot more, I guess he must have his reasons.

I am torn about my personal feelings of Coumadin or Warfarin being

'reasurring protection' from a stroke..but at the same time, I have it in the

back of

my mind that a stroke is always a possibility...so the natural blood

thinning just reassures me that I'm doing more than nothing on the thinning

front

and that the Plavix I am prescribed is an antiplatelet which is proven to be

more effective than Aspirin but not as bad for us as Coumadin or Warfarin..

(though still has a list of possible serious side effects as long as my arm!)

so

I guess we all just live on in the hope that the stroke doesnt get us and

the blood thinner doesn't overthin!

Live well everyone and enjoy every day!

Haze

In a message dated 06/02/2006 16:21:47 GMT Standard Time,

skubdoo@... writes:

I have spoken to the path lab and they say the use of supplements and herbal

remedies is frowned upon due to the fact that the manufacturing process can

be different from batch to batch as can the herbs etc.

Warfarin is manufactured to a standard and the medical profession know

exactly what it will or will not do as per presribed dose which is the

correct way, but this cannot be said about herbal remedies, and lets admit

it..it is rather hit and miss and when talking blood thinning for AF I want

it right.

I have been assured that a dose of warfarin in the 8 to 9 mg bracket is not

a lot and is classed as low, but at the end of the day what works for one

may not work for another.

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Hi, Hazel.

This isn't about afib - just wanted to tell you that all your posts go into

my spam box, probably because of the triple x's in your email address!

Re: natural blood thinning

Hi ,

and thanks for reporting back about what the Path lab says..pretty

predictable and understandeable I guess, as professionally speaking they

can't be seen

to be advising FOR anything that hasnt had clinical trials and isn't proven

to work and as they do so rightly say it's not an exact science and there

can

be variations in quality etc.

However they haven't got the drugs to be without side effects as yet, so

its

horses for courses I guess. We may not get a clot/ stroke when using

Warfarin or Coumadin but we could get a haemorrage and they can be just as

devastating as a clot. Both my brother and husbands brother had cerebral

haemorrages

under the age of 40yrs and only just lived through them, both have changed

lives.

I personally have nothing against taking Warfarin or Coumadin if my

specialist wanted me to.(Apart from a slight concern about Osteoporosis)

but he

doesnt think it necessary at the moment (That maybe my undoing!?)

However since he doesnt want to prescribe it presently and I am on a drug

that costs our Health Service a lot more, I guess he must have his reasons.

I am torn about my personal feelings of Coumadin or Warfarin being

'reasurring protection' from a stroke..but at the same time, I have it in

the back of

my mind that a stroke is always a possibility...so the natural blood

thinning just reassures me that I'm doing more than nothing on the thinning

front

and that the Plavix I am prescribed is an antiplatelet which is proven to

be

more effective than Aspirin but not as bad for us as Coumadin or Warfarin..

(though still has a list of possible serious side effects as long as my

arm!) so

I guess we all just live on in the hope that the stroke doesnt get us and

the blood thinner doesn't overthin!

Live well everyone and enjoy every day!

Haze

In a message dated 06/02/2006 16:21:47 GMT Standard Time,

skubdoo@... writes:

I have spoken to the path lab and they say the use of supplements and

herbal

remedies is frowned upon due to the fact that the manufacturing process can

be different from batch to batch as can the herbs etc.

Warfarin is manufactured to a standard and the medical profession know

exactly what it will or will not do as per presribed dose which is the

correct way, but this cannot be said about herbal remedies, and lets admit

it..it is rather hit and miss and when talking blood thinning for AF I want

it right.

I have been assured that a dose of warfarin in the 8 to 9 mg bracket is not

a lot and is classed as low, but at the end of the day what works for one

may not work for another.

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what is a typical daily dose of coumadin?

AG in Wales

> > >

> > > Wild salmon is a natural blood thinner. I have one meal of

wild salmon

> > > per week and my INR is constant, 2.5 - 3.5. My dosage is 5 mg

every

> > day

> > > except on Thurs, it is 2 1/2 mg. I have had occasions where

I have

> > had

> > two

> > > meals of salmon (twice a week) and have found that my INR has

risen to

> > 3.7,

> > > 4.0 etc. I plan to start having wild salmon twice a week and

see if

> > I can

> > > be 5mg, 5 days a week and on the other 2 day take a dosage of 2

> > > 1/2mg. Natural blood thinner is better than warfarin!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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not sure there is a typical dose. Age, metabolism, diet, illness, other

medications.. etc.... all play a part is how much one takes. I take 7.5

per day.. my mom takes 3.

It's also really important to followup with periodic testing, since

there are many factors that can change your needs from week to week.

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what is a typical daily dose of coumadin?

AG in Wales

> > >

> > > Wild salmon is a natural blood thinner. I have one meal of

wild salmon

> > > per week and my INR is constant, 2.5 - 3.5. My dosage is 5 mg

every

> > day

> > > except on Thurs, it is 2 1/2 mg. I have had occasions where

I have

> > had

> > two

> > > meals of salmon (twice a week) and have found that my INR has

risen to

> > 3.7,

> > > 4.0 etc. I plan to start having wild salmon twice a week and

see if

> > I can

> > > be 5mg, 5 days a week and on the other 2 day take a dosage of 2

> > > 1/2mg. Natural blood thinner is better than warfarin!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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AG -

From what I've seen, the standard beginning dose is 7.5 mg, except

they generally start you out at 5 mg if you weight less than 100 lbs,

or if you are age 65 or over. Then they'll adjust that up or down to

keep you in a theraputic range (INR = 2.0 to 3.0 for most people, up

to 3.5 for heart valve replacements).

I've seen maintenance dosages range from 1 or 2 mg daily, up to 15

mg daily to keep people in a theraputic range. I personally take 7.5

mg of warfarin (coumadin) daily, and that barely keeps me in the 2.0 -

2.2 range.

Mike from Minnesota

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> what is a typical daily dose of coumadin?

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> AG in Wales

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> > what is a typical daily dose of coumadin?

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> > AG in Wales

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AG. There are so many things, including other prescriptive drugs, that

affect your INR that there's no standard or good or bad amounts af

coumadin.

For example, I stay in therapeutic range with about 2 mg/day but I take

a lot of fish oil, gingko and Tapazole, all of which provide some blood

thinning on their own.

Gordon

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Have you spoken to your Doc about Omega 3 supplements?

Quarter Acre Orchids quarteracreorchids@...> wrote:

I stopped drinking wine a few months ago, after I started having multiple afib

events in a row.. I always had a glass or two of wine in the evening... for

years and years, even through 4 years of afib.. never noticed it as a trigger,

and I tell you, quitting seems to have done nothing to keep the afib at bay. I

think for some people alcohol is a humongous trigger, and for others not so

much. My sister feels her heart race if she has just one glass... I don't at

all, and my heart monitor doesn't reflect a raise either.

I'm now torn between the proposed health benefits of a glass of red wine and

my afib. I'm just so paranoid now that it's happening so frequently, and

especially now that I am forced to postpone my ablation... I might risk a glass

or two on occassion now, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for some every day, much

as I'd like to.

martin skubdoo@...> wrote:

I have recently stopped drinking beer or wine prior to meals and as

expected my warfarin levels are now all over the place, my warfarin

dose was 6 and has now climbed to 8.5 to 9.

This to me is an unexceptable level of poison in the system and would

like to help thin the blood with food....but which food,I have checked

the data base, but nothing to the point turns up, idea`s any one please

I must add I have never been a heavy drinker, but to beat AF every

avenue of relief should be investigated, but at this point in time I

would rather a half bottle of french plonk to an extra 3mg of warfarin

a day.

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