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My son who had a cold & croup this past weekend saw his temperature spike to 105. Acetaminophen didn't really bring it down that much so the

doc gave him ibuprofen which really helped. The doc is saying I should give it every 6 hrs to bring his fever down but "it might make him nauseous".

Does anyone know if ibuprofen is known to cause gut issues? Did some googling and all I came up with is that ibuprofen seems to be used to actually kill candida.

Anyone has any info or experience with ibuprofen? is is safe on the gut? Really worried about seeing a regression with this.....

Thanks for your help

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It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last week for migraines.We don't give acetaminophen anymore.

 

Hello

My son who had a cold & croup this past weekend saw his temperature spike to 105. Acetaminophen didn't really bring it down that much so the

doc gave him ibuprofen which really helped. The doc is saying I should give it every 6 hrs to bring his fever down but " it might make him nauseous " .

Does anyone know if ibuprofen is known to cause gut issues? Did some googling and all I came up with is that ibuprofen seems to be used to actually kill candida.

Anyone has any info or experience with ibuprofen? is is safe on the gut? Really worried about seeing a regression with this.....

Thanks for your help 

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We've been using Ibuprofen for pain issues for my son for over a year daily now. The doctors don't advise it, but it is the least of the evils I can find for his situation. I have given 's Aloe Vera daily as well since using it. So far we've not seen any side effects from it's use. Studies in diseases with brain inflammation are actually shwoing it to be benficial in those situations. We are using it for low back back pain with bulging discs for L-4 - S1 and lumbar foraminal stenosis along with benfotiamine. The docotrs choice was neurotin. Too many side effects for my liking on kids like mine.

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Re: ibuprofen- side effects? gut issues?

It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last week for migraines.

We don't give acetaminophen anymore.

Hello

My son who had a cold & croup this past weekend saw his temperature spike to 105. Acetaminophen didn't really bring it down that much so the doc gave him ibuprofen which really helped. The doc is saying I should give it every 6 hrs to bring his fever down but "it might make him nauseous".

Does anyone know if ibuprofen is known to cause gut issues? Did some googling and all I came up with is that ibuprofen seems to be used to actually kill candida.

Anyone has any info or experience with ibuprofen? is is safe on the gut? Really worried about seeing a regression with this.....

Thanks for your help

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Have you visited the Stop Calling It Autism Website?The treatment protocol there requires long term use of ibuprofen along with probiotics (Vsl #3 and custom are the ones suggested...I know, not for everyone). They are trying to raise some $$ to do a broader study on probiotics protecting the gut during ibu use. So if you're going to do the ibu anyway, better off making sure you've got a heavy-hittin' probiotic on board. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:16 AM Subject: Re: ibuprofen- side effects? gut issues?

We've been using Ibuprofen for pain issues for my son for over a year daily now. The doctors don't advise it, but it is the least of the evils I can find for his situation. I have given 's Aloe Vera daily as well since using it. So far we've not seen any side effects from it's use. Studies in diseases with brain inflammation are actually shwoing it to be benficial in those situations. We are using it for low back back pain with bulging discs for L-4 - S1 and lumbar foraminal stenosis along with benfotiamine. The docotrs choice was neurotin. Too many side effects for my liking on kids like mine.

Patty T - mom to

http://www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

Re: ibuprofen- side effects? gut issues?

It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last week for migraines.

We don't give acetaminophen anymore.

Hello

My son who had a cold & croup this past weekend saw his temperature spike to 105. Acetaminophen didn't really bring it down that much so the doc gave him ibuprofen which really helped. The doc is saying I should give it every 6 hrs to bring his fever down but "it might make him nauseous".

Does anyone know if ibuprofen is known to cause gut issues? Did some googling and all I came up with is that ibuprofen seems to be used to actually kill candida.

Anyone has any info or experience with ibuprofen? is is safe on the gut? Really worried about seeing a regression with this.....

Thanks for your help

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Thank Tammy, we do use Culturelle 3 x daily and two other probiotics I rotate in and out daily as well. Both are lesser expensive one but with 8 and 12 strains of bacteria each. We have to stay away from anything with strep in it.

Re: ibuprofen- side effects? gut issues?

It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last week for migraines.

We don't give acetaminophen anymore.

Hello

My son who had a cold & croup this past weekend saw his temperature spike to 105. Acetaminophen didn't really bring it down that much so the doc gave him ibuprofen which really helped. The doc is saying I should give it every 6 hrs to bring his fever down but "it might make him nauseous".

Does anyone know if ibuprofen is known to cause gut issues? Did some googling and all I came up with is that ibuprofen seems to be used to actually kill candida.

Anyone has any info or experience with ibuprofen? is is safe on the gut? Really worried about seeing a regression with this.....

Thanks for your help

--

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There is another issue with Advil, I can't remember exactly.- Will try to find

it. That being said, we have used it in the past for severe croup to avoid the

recommended perscription steroid. Now, though, as we have seen setbacks whenever

we use Advil, we've sworn off this and Tylenol altogether. For croup we use

saline nasal rinses (Neti pot or flush), and a humidifier. We haven't had severe

croup since we started this regimen when we get it.

One thing to take note on with the acetaminophin, if you don't already know all

of this, is that it is a sulfate. Here's an explanation of why that is bad in

ASD, from a Mom's blog (from this list?). If I remember correctly it also

reduces glutathione??

http://healingautismandadhd.wordpress.com/diet-2/phenolssalicylates/

Phenols are present in food dyes, artificial flavors, preservatives and in

highly colored fruits and vegetables, in bioflavonoids, and in cartenoids

(carotene, lutein, lycopene, xanthophylls, and zeaxanthin). Almost all foods

have phenols, but in varying amounts. Salicylates are a subgroup of phenols.

Salicylate is a group of chemicals related to aspirin. There are several kinds

of salicylate, which plants make as a natural pesticide to protect themselves.

Foods high in natural salicylates are tomatoes, apples, peanuts, bananas,

oranges, cocoa (chocolate), red grapes, coffee, all berries, peppers (bell &

chili) to name a few.

Symptoms of PST/sulfate deficiency(problems with phenols/salicylates) are

reddened ears, hyperactivity, inappropriate laughter, night sweats, black under

eyes, excessive thirst, eczema, facial flushing, trouble falling to sleep,

disturbed sleep and odorous bed clothes. Your child doesn't have to exhibit all

of these symptoms in order to have trouble with phenols. My son gets most of

these symptoms and he not only becomes very hyper, but he starts to stim and he

has trouble with emotion regulation.

One very important sulfotransferase enzyme is the one that attaches sulfate to

phenol compounds, called phenol-sulfotransferase (PST). The PST is under active

in the majority of autistic children. Without the PST enzyme working properly,

the liver will have trouble eliminating the phenols in food. PST is a Phase 2

liver enzyme that detoxifies leftover hormones and a wide variety of toxic

molecules, such as phenols and amines that are produced in the body (and even in

the gut by bacteria, yeast, and other fungi) as well as food dyes and chemicals.

Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most children on the autism spectrum are very low

in sulfate due to a deficiency in the PST pathway. This detoxification pathway

processes other phenolic compounds including salicylates (salicylates are a

subset of phenols), artificial food colorings, artificial flavorings, and some

preservatives. Besides requiring PST, research has found the salicylates further

suppress the activity of any PST enzyme present, making matters worse. Food dyes

also have been shown to inhibit the PST enzyme.

The problem can be two- fold: there may be a lack of phenol-sulfotransferase

enzymes, or there may be a lack of the sulfates (due to the absence of or to the

poor absorption of amino acids in the diet, or due to a failure to metabolize

them into sulfate form). Dr. Waring believes the lack of sulfates is the

primary problem. Since sulfur intake is low, and its oxidation is slow in many

autistic children, phenols and salicylates that requires or uses up sulfate ions

during its metabolism, will make the situation worse. Tylenol is phenolic and

one or two minutes after a dose of Tylenol, the entire supply of sulfate in the

liver is gone!

Eliminating the yeast overgrowth may also reduce the burden of phenolics on the

body. Yeasts and fungi in the intestines can produce phenolics. Therefore,

eliminating the yeast, and avoiding the phenols, salicylates and in food may

reduce the strain on the PST enzyme. Making sure there is enough magnesium

should help the functioning of the PST enzyme. Yet you must be careful with the

B6. Too much coenzyme B6 can suppress PST. However, Dr. Waring found that this

effect is mitigated if more magnesium is given. & #65279;

There is a digestive enzyme product made by Houston Nutraceuticals that might

help. Their No-Fenol product helps the body remove carbohydrates from phenolic

compounds and this may make it easier for the liver to remove these phenolic

compounds. This is their website, www.houstonni.com and their phone (866) 757-

8627. My son has trouble processing phenols and this enzyme has made it

possible for him to enjoy phenolic fruits and vegetables. Kirkman Labs also

sells one called Phenol Assist.

There are two ways you can relieve the toxic load in the PST pathway. One is

reducing the amount of phenols and toxins entering the body. This is the basis

of the Feingold Program. The second method of enhancing the detoxification

process is to supply more sulfate. This increases the amount of toxins processed

out. Sulfate ions may not be absorbed well from the gut, so simply giving more

sulfur directly by swallowing supplements may not produce satisfactory results.

Some people have seen improvements by supplementing with the sulfur-containing

amino acids cysteine and taurine, or MSM (methysulfonylmethane), or by using one

of the many commercially available MSM creams. However, others have not found

this tolerable. This may be because their body is unable to convert the sulfur

to the needed sulfate form.

My son does well with Taurine and Epsom salt baths because the form of sulfur in

the Epsom salts is already sulfate and readily available to the body. Epsom

salts are magnesium sulfate and are available at most local grocers or health

food stores, Costco, Wal-Mart, or inexpensively in bulk at agricultural supply

stores. Be sure to purchase U.S.P. (United States pharmaceutical grade).

When given an Epsom salt bath, the magnesium and sulfate in the salts are

absorbed into the body through the skin. Because the sulfur is already in the

sulfate form, it does not need to be converted like other forms of sulfur do.

Sulfate is thought to circulate in the body up to about nine hours. Any Epsom

salts left on the skin may continue to be absorbed as long as it is still on the

skin, offering continuous `timed-released' input into the bloodstream.

I put 1.5 to 2 cups of Epsom salts in hot bath water to dissolve and then add

the cold water to balance the temperature. My son will soak for about 15 minutes

before I use natural soaps or shampoos. Others add baking soda and lavender oil

to enhance the relaxation effects. I give my son an Epsom salt bath at least 5

nights a week, others do less. It really soothes and calms him for bedtime.

For more detailed information on salicylate sensitivity, symptoms and foods,

visit DeFelice's website Enzymestuff at

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionsensitivities.htm and click on " list of

salicylates in food and products.

>

> It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term

> use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last

> week for migraines.

>

> We don't give acetaminophen anymore.

>

>

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Yeah, Feingold diet eliminates advil; but my kids never had issues with it. They are sensitive to other phenols however.We do use dye-free, so that likely helps. Our generic dye free advil equivalent does have PEG or parabens or some other garbage in it.

We were seeing a net gain from it however.... but as I said this weekend just switched over to a migraine supplement so hoping it will alleviate general inflammation in the body.Tylenol does reduce glutathione and that increases gut permeability (when glutathione is decreased) so in general, not a good thing. I was a huge user of tylenol for a long time with me and my kids and I think it contributed to their oxidative stress. :-( (I prophylactically gave it before vaccines. DUMB ME!)

 

There is another issue with Advil, I can't remember exactly.- Will try to find it. That being said, we have used it in the past for severe croup to avoid the recommended perscription steroid. Now, though, as we have seen setbacks whenever we use Advil, we've sworn off this and Tylenol altogether. For croup we use saline nasal rinses (Neti pot or flush), and a humidifier. We haven't had severe croup since we started this regimen when we get it.

One thing to take note on with the acetaminophin, if you don't already know all of this, is that it is a sulfate. Here's an explanation of why that is bad in ASD, from a Mom's blog (from this list?). If I remember correctly it also reduces glutathione??

http://healingautismandadhd.wordpress.com/diet-2/phenolssalicylates/

Phenols are present in food dyes, artificial flavors, preservatives and in highly colored fruits and vegetables, in bioflavonoids, and in cartenoids (carotene, lutein, lycopene, xanthophylls, and zeaxanthin).  Almost all foods have phenols, but in varying amounts. Salicylates are a subgroup of phenols. Salicylate is a group of chemicals related to aspirin. There are several kinds of salicylate, which plants make as a natural pesticide to protect themselves.  Foods high in natural salicylates are tomatoes, apples, peanuts, bananas, oranges, cocoa (chocolate), red grapes, coffee, all berries, peppers (bell & chili) to name a few.

Symptoms of PST/sulfate deficiency(problems with phenols/salicylates) are reddened ears, hyperactivity, inappropriate laughter, night sweats, black under eyes, excessive thirst, eczema, facial flushing, trouble falling to sleep, disturbed sleep and odorous bed clothes.  Your child doesn't have to exhibit all of these symptoms in order to have trouble with phenols.  My son gets most of these symptoms and he not only becomes very hyper, but he starts to stim and he has trouble with emotion regulation.

One very important sulfotransferase enzyme is the one that attaches sulfate to phenol compounds, called phenol-sulfotransferase (PST). The PST is under active in the majority of autistic children. Without the PST enzyme working properly, the liver will have trouble eliminating the phenols in food.  PST is a Phase 2 liver enzyme that detoxifies leftover hormones and a wide variety of toxic molecules, such as phenols and amines that are produced in the body (and even in the gut by bacteria, yeast, and other fungi) as well as food dyes and chemicals.

Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most children on the autism spectrum are very low in sulfate due to a deficiency in the PST pathway. This detoxification pathway processes other phenolic compounds including salicylates (salicylates are a subset of phenols), artificial food colorings, artificial flavorings, and some preservatives. Besides requiring PST, research has found the salicylates further suppress the activity of any PST enzyme present, making matters worse. Food dyes also have been shown to inhibit the PST enzyme.

The problem can be two- fold: there may be a lack of phenol-sulfotransferase enzymes, or there may be a lack of the sulfates (due to the absence of or to the poor absorption of amino acids in the diet, or due to a failure to metabolize them into sulfate form).  Dr. Waring believes the lack of sulfates is the primary problem.  Since sulfur intake is low, and its oxidation is slow in many autistic children, phenols and salicylates that requires or uses up sulfate ions during its metabolism, will make the situation worse.  Tylenol is phenolic and one or two minutes after a dose of  Tylenol, the entire supply of sulfate in the liver is gone!

Eliminating the yeast overgrowth may also reduce the burden of phenolics on the body. Yeasts and fungi in the intestines can produce phenolics. Therefore, eliminating the yeast, and avoiding the phenols, salicylates and in food may reduce the strain on the PST enzyme.  Making sure there is enough magnesium should help the functioning of the PST enzyme. Yet you must be careful with the B6. Too much coenzyme B6 can suppress PST.  However, Dr. Waring found that this effect is mitigated if more magnesium is given. & #65279;

There is a digestive enzyme product made by Houston Nutraceuticals that might help. Their No-Fenol product helps the body remove carbohydrates from phenolic compounds and this may make it easier for the liver to remove these phenolic compounds. This is their website, www.houstonni.com and their phone (866) 757- 8627.  My son has trouble processing phenols and this enzyme has made it possible for him to enjoy phenolic fruits and vegetables.  Kirkman Labs also sells one called Phenol Assist.

There are two ways you can relieve the toxic load in the PST pathway. One is reducing the amount of phenols and toxins entering the body. This is the basis of the Feingold Program.  The second method of enhancing the detoxification process is to supply more sulfate. This increases the amount of toxins processed out. Sulfate ions may not be absorbed well from the gut, so simply giving more sulfur directly by swallowing supplements may not produce satisfactory results. Some people have seen improvements by supplementing with the sulfur-containing amino acids cysteine and taurine, or MSM (methysulfonylmethane), or by using one of the many commercially available MSM creams. However, others have not found this tolerable. This may be because their body is unable to convert the sulfur to the needed sulfate form.

My son does well with Taurine and Epsom salt baths because the form of sulfur in the Epsom salts is already sulfate and readily available to the body. Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate and are available at most local grocers or health food stores, Costco, Wal-Mart, or inexpensively in bulk at agricultural supply stores.  Be sure to purchase U.S.P. (United States pharmaceutical grade).

When given an Epsom salt bath, the magnesium and sulfate in the salts are absorbed into the body through the skin. Because the sulfur is already in the sulfate form, it does not need to be converted like other forms of sulfur do. Sulfate is thought to circulate in the body up to about nine hours. Any Epsom salts left on the skin may continue to be absorbed as long as it is still on the skin, offering continuous `timed-released' input into the bloodstream.

I put 1.5 to 2 cups of Epsom salts in hot bath water to dissolve and then add the cold water to balance the temperature. My son will soak for about 15 minutes before I use natural soaps or shampoos. Others add baking soda and lavender oil to enhance the relaxation effects.  I give my son an Epsom salt bath at least 5 nights a week, others do less.  It really soothes and calms him for bedtime.

For more detailed information on salicylate sensitivity, symptoms and foods, visit DeFelice's website Enzymestuff at http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionsensitivities.htm and click on " list of salicylates in food and products.

>

> It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term

> use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last

> week for migraines.

>

> We don't give acetaminophen anymore.

>

>

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ou can also compound things, we have our IBproffin compounded, same for our benadril

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:47 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: ibuprofen- side effects? gut issues?

Yeah, Feingold diet eliminates advil; but my kids never had issues with it. They are sensitive to other phenols however.We do use dye-free, so that likely helps. Our generic dye free advil equivalent does have PEG or parabens or some other garbage in it.We were seeing a net gain from it however.... but as I said this weekend just switched over to a migraine supplement so hoping it will alleviate general inflammation in the body.Tylenol does reduce glutathione and that increases gut permeability (when glutathione is decreased) so in general, not a good thing. I was a huge user of tylenol for a long time with me and my kids and I think it contributed to their oxidative stress. :-( (I prophylactically gave it before vaccines. DUMB ME!)

There is another issue with Advil, I can't remember exactly.- Will try to find it. That being said, we have used it in the past for severe croup to avoid the recommended perscription steroid. Now, though, as we have seen setbacks whenever we use Advil, we've sworn off this and Tylenol altogether. For croup we use saline nasal rinses (Neti pot or flush), and a humidifier. We haven't had severe croup since we started this regimen when we get it.One thing to take note on with the acetaminophin, if you don't already know all of this, is that it is a sulfate. Here's an explanation of why that is bad in ASD, from a Mom's blog (from this list?). If I remember correctly it also reduces glutathione??http://healingautismandadhd.wordpress.com/diet-2/phenolssalicylates/Phenols are present in food dyes, artificial flavors, preservatives and in highly colored fruits and vegetables, in bioflavonoids, and in cartenoids (carotene, lutein, lycopene, xanthophylls, and zeaxanthin). Almost all foods have phenols, but in varying amounts. Salicylates are a subgroup of phenols. Salicylate is a group of chemicals related to aspirin. There are several kinds of salicylate, which plants make as a natural pesticide to protect themselves. Foods high in natural salicylates are tomatoes, apples, peanuts, bananas, oranges, cocoa (chocolate), red grapes, coffee, all berries, peppers (bell & chili) to name a few.Symptoms of PST/sulfate deficiency(problems with phenols/salicylates) are reddened ears, hyperactivity, inappropriate laughter, night sweats, black under eyes, excessive thirst, eczema, facial flushing, trouble falling to sleep, disturbed sleep and odorous bed clothes. Your child doesn't have to exhibit all of these symptoms in order to have trouble with phenols. My son gets most of these symptoms and he not only becomes very hyper, but he starts to stim and he has trouble with emotion regulation.One very important sulfotransferase enzyme is the one that attaches sulfate to phenol compounds, called phenol-sulfotransferase (PST). The PST is under active in the majority of autistic children. Without the PST enzyme working properly, the liver will have trouble eliminating the phenols in food. PST is a Phase 2 liver enzyme that detoxifies leftover hormones and a wide variety of toxic molecules, such as phenols and amines that are produced in the body (and even in the gut by bacteria, yeast, and other fungi) as well as food dyes and chemicals.Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most children on the autism spectrum are very low in sulfate due to a deficiency in the PST pathway. This detoxification pathway processes other phenolic compounds including salicylates (salicylates are a subset of phenols), artificial food colorings, artificial flavorings, and some preservatives. Besides requiring PST, research has found the salicylates further suppress the activity of any PST enzyme present, making matters worse. Food dyes also have been shown to inhibit the PST enzyme.The problem can be two- fold: there may be a lack of phenol-sulfotransferase enzymes, or there may be a lack of the sulfates (due to the absence of or to the poor absorption of amino acids in the diet, or due to a failure to metabolize them into sulfate form). Dr. Waring believes the lack of sulfates is the primary problem. Since sulfur intake is low, and its oxidation is slow in many autistic children, phenols and salicylates that requires or uses up sulfate ions during its metabolism, will make the situation worse. Tylenol is phenolic and one or two minutes after a dose of Tylenol, the entire supply of sulfate in the liver is gone!Eliminating the yeast overgrowth may also reduce the burden of phenolics on the body. Yeasts and fungi in the intestines can produce phenolics. Therefore, eliminating the yeast, and avoiding the phenols, salicylates and in food may reduce the strain on the PST enzyme. Making sure there is enough magnesium should help the functioning of the PST enzyme. Yet you must be careful with the B6. Too much coenzyme B6 can suppress PST. However, Dr. Waring found that this effect is mitigated if more magnesium is given. & #65279;There is a digestive enzyme product made by Houston Nutraceuticals that might help. Their No-Fenol product helps the body remove carbohydrates from phenolic compounds and this may make it easier for the liver to remove these phenolic compounds. This is their website, www.houstonni.com and their phone (866) 757- 8627. My son has trouble processing phenols and this enzyme has made it possible for him to enjoy phenolic fruits and vegetables. Kirkman Labs also sells one called Phenol Assist.There are two ways you can relieve the toxic load in the PST pathway. One is reducing the amount of phenols and toxins entering the body. This is the basis of the Feingold Program. The second method of enhancing the detoxification process is to supply more sulfate. This increases the amount of toxins processed out. Sulfate ions may not be absorbed well from the gut, so simply giving more sulfur directly by swallowing supplements may not produce satisfactory results. Some people have seen improvements by supplementing with the sulfur-containing amino acids cysteine and taurine, or MSM (methysulfonylmethane), or by using one of the many commercially available MSM creams. However, others have not found this tolerable. This may be because their body is unable to convert the sulfur to the needed sulfate form.My son does well with Taurine and Epsom salt baths because the form of sulfur in the Epsom salts is already sulfate and readily available to the body. Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate and are available at most local grocers or health food stores, Costco, Wal-Mart, or inexpensively in bulk at agricultural supply stores. Be sure to purchase U.S.P. (United States pharmaceutical grade).When given an Epsom salt bath, the magnesium and sulfate in the salts are absorbed into the body through the skin. Because the sulfur is already in the sulfate form, it does not need to be converted like other forms of sulfur do. Sulfate is thought to circulate in the body up to about nine hours. Any Epsom salts left on the skin may continue to be absorbed as long as it is still on the skin, offering continuous `timed-released' input into the bloodstream.I put 1.5 to 2 cups of Epsom salts in hot bath water to dissolve and then add the cold water to balance the temperature. My son will soak for about 15 minutes before I use natural soaps or shampoos. Others add baking soda and lavender oil to enhance the relaxation effects. I give my son an Epsom salt bath at least 5 nights a week, others do less. It really soothes and calms him for bedtime.For more detailed information on salicylate sensitivity, symptoms and foods, visit DeFelice's website Enzymestuff at http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionsensitivities.htm and click on "list of salicylates in food and products.

>> It can cause tummy pain, like ulcers... but should be fine for short term> use. We were using it daily till I switched over to a high dose B2 last> week for migraines.> > We don't give acetaminophen anymore.> >

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there was a great article I read not far back about IBprofin with use of fluconizole it drove it deeper in and was able to get better killage ability. very interesting, think I was it on www.autism.com

From: S B

Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:19 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: ibuprofen- side effects? gut issues?

HelloMy son who had a cold & croup this past weekend saw his temperature spike to 105. Acetaminophen didn't really bring it down that much so the doc gave him ibuprofen which really helped. The doc is saying I should give it every 6 hrs to bring his fever down but "it might make him nauseous". Does anyone know if ibuprofen is known to cause gut issues? Did some googling and all I came up with is that ibuprofen seems to be used to actually kill candida.Anyone has any info or experience with ibuprofen? is is safe on the gut? Really worried about seeing a regression with this.....Thanks for your help

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