Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 There is no specific state rule that requires the individual to carry their state cert card. s s wrote: Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I do not believe so (and I sure hope not!!). The only DSHS rule I am aware of states that all personnel in an " in-service vehicle " or " on-scene " must be " prominently identified " by name, cert level and provider (service) name. I don't carry my card, as I just wear my credentialing badge, and a copy of my cert is on file. s s wrote: > > Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their > certification cards on their person while on duty? > > thanks > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 As far as mandatory carry, I see nothing on the rules. I keep mine in a card pocket on the clip that I have my ID on. s s wrote: Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I've always been told that you have to carry it with you while on duty, so that if you are stopped by someone from DSHS at a facility, that you can show that you are certified at the level that you are displaying on your uniform. As stated before, 157.11 just states that you have to have some type of ID to identify you on scene that has your name, cert level and the name of the company or FRO that you are with. Wayne michael hay wrote: There is no specific state rule that requires the individual to carry their state cert card. s s wrote: Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 As far as it being a " rule " , I couldn't tell you for sure. I do know that when I have been involved in unannounced DSHS inspections, they asked for cert cards on enough persons present to staff vehicles. They write down the level and cert # on their inspection form. Chambers, LP ----Original Message---- From: larn572001@... Date: 01/01/2008 23:49 To: Subj: Re: Cert cards while on duty As far as mandatory carry, I see nothing on the rules. I keep mine in a card pocket on the clip that I have my ID on. s s wrote: Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 It doesn't say picture **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 The state ask to see them when they inspect a truck. henry Cert cards while on duty Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 You know, Just carry it with your drivers license, and you never have to worry about it. Tom & Marsha LeNeveu Paramedic, Future RN; & RN Fort Worth Texas Email: TomMarshaLeNeveu@... yahoo Group: Christian_Medic Cert cards while on duty Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks ------------ --------- --------- --- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 It depends on how you interpret " holds a license " ; it would seem that it should not be taken literally: § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. (a) A person may not operate, conduct, or maintain an emergency medical service, advertise that the person is an emergency medical services provider, or otherwise engage in or profess to be engaged in the provision of emergency medical services unless the person holds a license as an emergency medical services provider issued by the department in accordance with this chapter. (a-1) A person may not transport a patient by stretcher in a vehicle unless the person holds a license as an emergency medical services provider issued by the department in accordance with this chapter. For purposes of this subsection, " person " means an individual, corporation, organization, government, governmental subdivision or agency, business, trust, partnership, association, or any other legal entity. ( A person may not practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel unless the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted under this chapter. © A certificate or license issued under this chapter is not transferable. ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of s s Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:01 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Cert cards while on duty Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 No. But they must have an ID with company name,cert level,and a pic ID. Cert cards while on duty Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yeah they tried with me and i told them i did not need to carry it.he insisted and i told him to talk to his boss,who had informed me a few years prior. Re: Cert cards while on duty The state ask to see them when they inspect a truck. henry Cert cards while on duty Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? thanks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Wherfe in the rule does it say that you have to have a picture ID? Maxine Pate hire EMS ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:13:31 -0600 > >Subject: RE: Cert cards while on duty >To: <texasems-l > > > No. But they must have an ID with company name,cert > level,and a pic ID. > > Cert cards while on duty > > Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel > carry their certification cards on their person > while on duty? > > thanks > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick. The rule only requires that your name and certification level be displayed. That can be through either a name tag or embroidery on your shirt. I used to keep my picture ID with my cert in the holder in my pocket after we started wearing polos with embroidered names and ranks on them, but as I read the rule it's not necessary to have your cert on your person. The DSHS person can easily look it up. Since the rule does not specifically require that you carry the cert on your person, I doubt that any such " fine " or other disciplinary measure would stand up. The reason for the rule is not to prove your certification to DSHS, but rather to identify you and your level of certification to the public. Now, a licensed provider is required to display the license in the ambulance vehicle, but that's another matter entirely. Gene G. > > Ok so just for grins; > If I am asked to show current DSHS certification and I don't have it (kinda > like Concealed Handgun, or DL) I can be ticketed and have to show proof later > on or even have to deal with a ticket if the inspector so chooses to give it > since I cannot show proof of current certification right then? > > W > > Sal wrote: > Well gotta have a DL to drive the unit so that satisfies the pic id. > > Cert cards while on duty > > > > Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel > > carry their certification cards on their person > > while on duty? > > > > thanks > > > > ------------ -------- -------- -- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Well gotta have a DL to drive the unit so that satisfies the pic id. Cert cards while on duty > > Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel > carry their certification cards on their person > while on duty? > > thanks > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Ok so just for grins; If I am asked to show current DSHS certification and I don't have it (kinda like Concealed Handgun, or DL) I can be ticketed and have to show proof later on or even have to deal with a ticket if the inspector so chooses to give it since I cannot show proof of current certification right then? W Sal wrote: Well gotta have a DL to drive the unit so that satisfies the pic id. Cert cards while on duty > > Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel > carry their certification cards on their person > while on duty? > > thanks > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Thanks Gene. RE: Cert cards while on duty > >To: <texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem> > > > > No. But they must hav [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Well, let's look at it this way. If I forget my DL, the cop who stopped me can instantly verify my status with name and DOB, and if I happen to know my DL number, which I do, it's even better. I know few cops who would bother to write you once they verified by radio or MDT that you were valid, since any judge would dismiss the charge. Now, I happen to have my License number memorized (12433) and I can spout it off instantly. So If I happened to get up in the middle of the night and found that my name badge had come loose and I left it on the floor of the bunk room, I can still prove to Officer that I'm certified. Of course, Officer knows my ugly mug and can't forget it, so when one's infamous all that's beside the point. LOL. For you " not yet infamous " folks, just learn your cert number and you ought to be fine as a practical matter. Mr. Optimistic. gg > > I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick. > I Most Certainly Agree! I see how that can be misconstrued, but not the > intent.....Sorry if it was taken that way Sal and anyone else at the state > level...... > > But if they ask to see it and I don't have it and they question weather or > not I am a certified to practice what keeps them from doing it. Our law > enforcement agencies are allowed that latitude. It is not a bad thing, just an > enforcement option they have. Requires someone who cannot verify at that time to > go and take the time to prove they are certified. If they are not required > then why do we even have the cards in the first place then. Lets save the > money, put it online and if you want it print it, do so otherwise lets save more > money. I always believed the card was there to validate or verify that I was > certified at a particular level and current. If asked to produce it like any > other certification or License issued by the government I should be able to do > so and if there is an off chance of catching someone fraudulently posing as > a Medic or EMT, would being asked to produce this card not help limit those > practicing outside of their certification date or outside their > scope of practice. The ability to access that information may or may not be > easily accessed, but a card is now. > > Can you imagine both on a state and local level what would be brought into > question if they actually had just seen someone at the back doors at Parkland > and since they could not produce a Certification Card let them go since the > shirt said Paramedic/Service/ Can you imagine both on a state and local level > what would be brought into question if they actually had just seen someone at > the back doors at Parkland and since they could not produce a Certification > Card let them go since the hi > > The truth is I guess I missed the whole change over when it occurred and the > discussions that went along with it. > > Sorry for tasteless input > Chris > > Sal wrote: > Thanks Gene. > > RE: Cert cards while on duty > > >To: <texasems-l@texasems-l@<wbr> > > > > > > No. But they must hav > > [The entire original message is not included] > > ------------ -------- -------- -- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Hey Rick, Just get it tattooed on your forehead, complete with your picture, and that solves the problem. I think we should require all certificants and licensees to have a picture of themselves tattooed on their forehead so that they can prove that they're them. (I'll be opening a tattoo parler immediately). GG > > I am licensed to drive, licensed as a paramedic and licensed as a registered > nurse. I keep all of those in my wallet and my wallet is with me anytime > that I am out of the house. Required by law or not it makes sense to me to keep > my licenses with me so that I can prove to regulatory authorities that I am > licensed to participate in the activity that I am participating in. > When it comes to EMS or nursing, the law may not require my license be on my > person, but I am required to display at least my name and level and agency > to those that I am rendering care to so that they understand (in theory) what > I am able to do to help them. > Rick > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > Behalf Of Weinzapfel > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:30 PM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: RE: Cert cards while on duty > > I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick. > I Most Certainly Agree! I see how that can be misconstrued, but not the > intent.....Sorry if it was taken that way Sal and anyone else at the state > level...... > > But if they ask to see it and I don't have it and they question weather or > not I am a certified to practice what keeps them from doing it. Our law > enforcement agencies are allowed that lattitude. It is not a bad thing, just an > enforcment option they have. Requires someone who cannot veify at that time to > go and take the time to prove they are certified. If they are not required > then why do we even have the cards in the first place then. Lets save the money, > put it online and if you want it print it, do so otherwise lets save more > money. I always believed the card was there to validate or verify that I was > certified at a particular level and current. If asked to produce it like any > other certification or License issued by the government I should be able to do > so and if there is an off chance of catching someone fraudulently possing as > a Medic or EMT, would being asked to produce this card not help limit those > practicing outside of their certification date or outside their > scope of practice. The ability to access that information may or may not be > easily accessed, but a card is now. > > Can you immagine both on a state and local level what would be brought into > qestion if they actually had just seen someone at the back doors at Parkland > and since they could not produce a Certification Card let them go since the > shirt said Paramedic/Service/ Can you immagine both on a state and local level > what would be brought into qestion if they actually had just seen someone at > the back doors at Parkland and since they could not produce a Certification > Card let them go since the shirt > > The truth is I guess I missed the whole change over when it occured and the > discussions that went along with it. > > Sorry for tastless input > Chris > > Sal <scapuchino@... <mailto:scapuchino%mailto:scap> > wrote: > Thanks Gene. > > RE: Cert cards while on duty > > >To: <texasems-l@texasems-l@<wbr> > > > > > > No. But they must hav > > [The entire original message is not included] > > ------------ -------- -------- -- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick. I Most Certainly Agree! I see how that can be misconstrued, but not the intent.....Sorry if it was taken that way Sal and anyone else at the state level...... But if they ask to see it and I don't have it and they question weather or not I am a certified to practice what keeps them from doing it. Our law enforcement agencies are allowed that lattitude. It is not a bad thing, just an enforcment option they have. Requires someone who cannot veify at that time to go and take the time to prove they are certified. If they are not required then why do we even have the cards in the first place then. Lets save the money, put it online and if you want it print it, do so otherwise lets save more money. I always believed the card was there to validate or verify that I was certified at a particular level and current. If asked to produce it like any other certification or License issued by the government I should be able to do so and if there is an off chance of catching someone fraudulently possing as a Medic or EMT, would being asked to produce this card not help limit those practicing outside of their certification date or outside their scope of practice. The ability to access that information may or may not be easily accessed, but a card is now. Can you immagine both on a state and local level what would be brought into qestion if they actually had just seen someone at the back doors at Parkland and since they could not produce a Certification Card let them go since the shirt said Paramedic/Service/Name and that was good enough. Then later find out that the individual was practicing with none and if they had been required to produce could not and were ticketed and followed up on then this individual would have been caught sooner. The truth is I guess I missed the whole change over when it occured and the discussions that went along with it. Sorry for tastless input Chris Sal wrote: Thanks Gene. RE: Cert cards while on duty > >To: <texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem> > > > > No. But they must hav [The entire original message is not included] --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I am licensed to drive, licensed as a paramedic and licensed as a registered nurse. I keep all of those in my wallet and my wallet is with me anytime that I am out of the house. Required by law or not it makes sense to me to keep my licenses with me so that I can prove to regulatory authorities that I am licensed to participate in the activity that I am participating in. When it comes to EMS or nursing, the law may not require my license be on my person, but I am required to display at least my name and level and agency to those that I am rendering care to so that they understand (in theory) what I am able to do to help them. Rick ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Weinzapfel Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:30 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: Cert cards while on duty I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick. I Most Certainly Agree! I see how that can be misconstrued, but not the intent.....Sorry if it was taken that way Sal and anyone else at the state level...... But if they ask to see it and I don't have it and they question weather or not I am a certified to practice what keeps them from doing it. Our law enforcement agencies are allowed that lattitude. It is not a bad thing, just an enforcment option they have. Requires someone who cannot veify at that time to go and take the time to prove they are certified. If they are not required then why do we even have the cards in the first place then. Lets save the money, put it online and if you want it print it, do so otherwise lets save more money. I always believed the card was there to validate or verify that I was certified at a particular level and current. If asked to produce it like any other certification or License issued by the government I should be able to do so and if there is an off chance of catching someone fraudulently possing as a Medic or EMT, would being asked to produce this card not help limit those practicing outside of their certification date or outside their scope of practice. The ability to access that information may or may not be easily accessed, but a card is now. Can you immagine both on a state and local level what would be brought into qestion if they actually had just seen someone at the back doors at Parkland and since they could not produce a Certification Card let them go since the shirt said Paramedic/Service/Name and that was good enough. Then later find out that the individual was practicing with none and if they had been required to produce could not and were ticketed and followed up on then this individual would have been caught sooner. The truth is I guess I missed the whole change over when it occured and the discussions that went along with it. Sorry for tastless input Chris Sal <scapuchino@... <mailto:scapuchino%40yahoo.com> > wrote: Thanks Gene. RE: Cert cards while on duty > >To: <texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem> > > > > No. But they must hav [The entire original message is not included] --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 In a message dated 1/3/2008 4:29:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, wegandy1938@... writes: Well, let's look at it this way. If I forget my DL, the cop who stopped me can instantly verify my status with name and DOB, and if I happen to know my DL number, which I do, it's even better. I know few cops who would bother to write you once they verified by radio or MDT that you were valid, since any judge would dismiss the charge. Just the other day my son was stopped by a TAMU Officer, it was for suspicions vehicle (he delivers pizza and did not know the area so he's skirting the mail boxes etc. cop sees him stops him fair enough). The kids got his old mans lead foot so he's not " squeaky clean " but he's also not a 3 time DWI loose etc. Well he comes up as DL suspended with a code for DWI but he has not a single DWI or anything close on his record hence the cop gives him a written warning for driving while suspended and tells him to get to DPS after the Holiday and get that fixed then go see the City Judge to get this handled . The kid walked in to the city court today and took 15 minutes to fix it. Electronics are great but they do have humans pushing buttons. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Owner and President of LNM Emergency Services Consulting Services (LNMECS) Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I think you should specialize in tattoos of the cartoon versions of each of us so that we can have a little fun while on the calls. LOL It would be a protection against being not being able to prove we are ourselves as well as entertainment for the kiddies. Jane Dinsmore To: texasems-l@...: wegandy1938@...: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:32:21 -0500Subject: Re: Cert cards while on duty Hey Rick,Just get it tattooed on your forehead, complete with your picture, and that solves the problem. I think we should require all certificants and licensees to have a picture of themselves tattooed on their forehead so that they can prove that they're them. (I'll be opening a tattoo parler immediately).GGIn a message dated 1/3/08 12:47:24 PM, rick.moore@... writes:> > I am licensed to drive, licensed as a paramedic and licensed as a registered > nurse. I keep all of those in my wallet and my wallet is with me anytime > that I am out of the house. Required by law or not it makes sense to me to keep > my licenses with me so that I can prove to regulatory authorities that I am > licensed to participate in the activity that I am participating in.> When it comes to EMS or nursing, the law may not require my license be on my > person, but I am required to display at least my name and level and agency > to those that I am rendering care to so that they understand (in theory) what > I am able to do to help them.> Rick> > ____________ ________ ________ _> > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > Behalf Of Weinzapfel> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:30 PM> To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem> Subject: RE: Cert cards while on duty> > I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick.> I Most Certainly Agree! I see how that can be misconstrued, but not the > intent.....Sorry if it was taken that way Sal and anyone else at the state > level......> > But if they ask to see it and I don't have it and they question weather or > not I am a certified to practice what keeps them from doing it. Our law > enforcement agencies are allowed that lattitude. It is not a bad thing, just an > enforcment option they have. Requires someone who cannot veify at that time to > go and take the time to prove they are certified. If they are not required > then why do we even have the cards in the first place then. Lets save the money, > put it online and if you want it print it, do so otherwise lets save more > money. I always believed the card was there to validate or verify that I was > certified at a particular level and current. If asked to produce it like any > other certification or License issued by the government I should be able to do > so and if there is an off chance of catching someone fraudulently possing as > a Medic or EMT, would being asked to produce this card not help limit those > practicing outside of their certification date or outside their> scope of practice. The ability to access that information may or may not be > easily accessed, but a card is now.> > Can you immagine both on a state and local level what would be brought into > qestion if they actually had just seen someone at the back doors at Parkland > and since they could not produce a Certification Card let them go since the > shirt said Paramedic/Service/ Can you immagine both on a state and local level > what would be brought into qestion if they actually had just seen someone at > the back doors at Parkland and since they could not produce a Certification > Card let them go since the shirt> > The truth is I guess I missed the whole change over when it occured and the > discussions that went along with it.> > Sorry for tastless input> Chris> > Sal <scapuchino@... <mailto:scapuchino%mailto:scap> > wrote:> Thanks Gene.> > -----Original Message-----> From: wegandy1938@wegandy <mailto:wegandy1938mailto:weg>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:14 PM> To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai>> Subject: Re: Cert cards while on duty> > I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick.> The rule only requires that your name and certification level be displayed.> That can be through either a name tag or embroidery on your shirt. I used to> keep my picture ID with my cert in the holder in my pocket after we started> wearing polos with embroidered names and ranks on them, but as I read the > rule> it's not necessary to have your cert on your person. The DSHS person can> easily look it up.> > Since the rule does not specifically require that you carry the cert on your> person, I doubt that any such " fine " or other disciplinary measure would > stand> up.> > The reason for the rule is not to prove your certification to DSHS, but> rather to identify you and your level of certification to the public. Now, a> licensed provider is required to display the license in the ambulance > vehicle, but> that's another matter entirely.> > Gene G.> In a message dated 1/2/08 8:50:03 PM, ctacdoc657@... <> mailto:ctacdoc657%mailto:ctac> writes:> > >> > Ok so just for grins;> > If I am asked to show current DSHS certification and I don't have it > (kinda> > like Concealed Handgun, or DL) I can be ticketed and have to show proof > later> > on or even have to deal with a ticket if the inspector so chooses to give > it> > since I cannot show proof of current certification right then?> >> > W> >> > Sal <scapuchino@... <mailto:scapuchino%mailto:scap> > wrote:> > Well gotta have a DL to drive the unit so that satisfies the pic id.> >> > RE: Cert cards while on duty> > >To: <texasems-l@texasems-l@<wbr>> > >> > > No. But they must hav> > [The entire original message is not included]> > ------------ -------- -------- --> Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 That's a heck of an idea Gene, why didn't I think of that? Rick ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:32 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: Cert cards while on duty Hey Rick, Just get it tattooed on your forehead, complete with your picture, and that solves the problem. I think we should require all certificants and licensees to have a picture of themselves tattooed on their forehead so that they can prove that they're them. (I'll be opening a tattoo parler immediately). GG In a message dated 1/3/08 12:47:24 PM, rick.moore@... <mailto:rick.moore%40triadhospitals.com> writes: > > I am licensed to drive, licensed as a paramedic and licensed as a registered > nurse. I keep all of those in my wallet and my wallet is with me anytime > that I am out of the house. Required by law or not it makes sense to me to keep > my licenses with me so that I can prove to regulatory authorities that I am > licensed to participate in the activity that I am participating in. > When it comes to EMS or nursing, the law may not require my license be on my > person, but I am required to display at least my name and level and agency > to those that I am rendering care to so that they understand (in theory) what > I am able to do to help them. > Rick > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > Behalf Of Weinzapfel > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:30 PM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: RE: Cert cards while on duty > > I doubt very seriously that anyone from DSHS would attempt such a trick. > I Most Certainly Agree! I see how that can be misconstrued, but not the > intent.....Sorry if it was taken that way Sal and anyone else at the state > level...... > > But if they ask to see it and I don't have it and they question weather or > not I am a certified to practice what keeps them from doing it. Our law > enforcement agencies are allowed that lattitude. It is not a bad thing, just an > enforcment option they have. Requires someone who cannot veify at that time to > go and take the time to prove they are certified. If they are not required > then why do we even have the cards in the first place then. Lets save the money, > put it online and if you want it print it, do so otherwise lets save more > money. I always believed the card was there to validate or verify that I was > certified at a particular level and current. If asked to produce it like any > other certification or License issued by the government I should be able to do > so and if there is an off chance of catching someone fraudulently possing as > a Medic or EMT, would being asked to produce this card not help limit those > practicing outside of their certification date or outside their > scope of practice. The ability to access that information may or may not be > easily accessed, but a card is now. > > Can you immagine both on a state and local level what would be brought into > qestion if they actually had just seen someone at the back doors at Parkland > and since they could not produce a Certification Card let them go since the > shirt said Paramedic/Service/ Can you immagine both on a state and local level > what would be brought into qestion if they actually had just seen someone at > the back doors at Parkland and since they could not produce a Certification > Card let them go since the shirt > > The truth is I guess I missed the whole change over when it occured and the > discussions that went along with it. > > Sorry for tastless input > Chris > > Sal <scapuchino@... <mailto:scapuchino%40yahoo.sca> <mailto:scapuchino%mailto:scap> > wrote: > Thanks Gene. > > RE: Cert cards while on duty > > >To: <texasems-l@texasems-l@<wbr> > > > > > > No. But they must hav > > [The entire original message is not included] > > ------------ -------- -------- -- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Ems personnel are not required to carry their cert cards on duty Maxie Bisop Need a definative answer on this. Must EMS personnel carry their certification cards on their person while on duty? > > thanks > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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