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Someone asked the question to this the other day. So here are the figures as

of today that includes paid and free members from Texas.

Ron

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> I'm looking at the latest update from NAEMT membership statistics and

> there are 920 members in Texas. I don't have a breakdown of paid members

> versus free ones from taking NAEMT classes.

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> Connie Meyer

> NAEMT Board of Directors

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We have a winner! Actually the number NAEMT gave me was 878 but I think that

was just dues paying Members and they did mention they had a " number of non

paying Members " .

Now the $64,000 is why do we have 878+ NEMT members and only < 300 EMSAT

Members?

So if you're an NAEMT Member and NOT an EMSAT Member might you give us a

shot?

_http://www.texasemsat.org/_ (http://www.texasemsat.org/)

(http://www.emsatoftexas.org)

Or cpontact me off line to discuss any issues or concerens about EMSAT that

you may have (an offer open to ALL TEXAS EMS folks BTW).

LNM

Member of the Board of directors of EMSAT

In a message dated 5/8/2006 11:38:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

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Someone asked the question to this the other day. So here are the figures as

of today that includes paid and free members from Texas.

Ron

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> I'm looking at the latest update from NAEMT membership statistics and

> there are 920 members in Texas. I don't have a breakdown of paid members

> versus free ones from taking NAEMT classes.

>

> Connie Meyer

> NAEMT Board of Directors

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> ----- Original Message -----

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I think that one of the reasons that there are so few members is the fact that

those organizations are usually only mentioned on this list. Only a fraction of

EMTs and Paramedics in Texas belong to this group. EMSAT has not done a very

good job at getting the word out to the EMS providers in Texas along with the

benefits of becoming a member.

Re: Texas Numbers

> I'm looking at the latest update from NAEMT membership statistics and

> there are 920 members in Texas. I don't have a breakdown of paid members

> versus free ones from taking NAEMT classes.

>

> Connie Meyer

> NAEMT Board of Directors

>

> ----- Original Message -----

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What should EMSAT do to get the word out? They have done the following over

the years.

1. Have a booth at the EMS Conference

2. Hold their General Membership Meeting that is well posted at the

Conference during hours that does not interfere with classes

3. Held Receptions at the Conference

4. Have posted on this egroup since 1998

5. Have a quarterly news letter

6. Held Special called meetings on EMS legislation with over 25 Stakeholder

groups

7. Filed and passed legislation

8. Had booths at EMStock

9. Kept ads in the Texas EMS Magazine

10. Held meetings around the State in different locations

11. Held quarter meetings during GETAC meetings and at other times not with

GETAC. There is one coming up next week.

12 Held two EMSAT Conferences of their own.

13. Has kept a website

14. Has website listed at the DSHS website as a link and is linked at TAA,

and many other sites

15. Sold and has held Corporate Memberships

16. Testified many times at GETAC and the Legislature

17. Visited EMS Services and Other organizations to recruit members

18. Solicited EMS Students

19. Has it's own egroup that anyone can join

20. Sponsored the Texas EMS Party that TDH use to do at the EMS conference

and sponsored a party on 6th street in Austin during the conference.

This is JUST a FEW things they have done. EMSAT I know is always open to

suggestions. You have any? We need them. Or is it the EMS Community just

won't support a professional association? There are about 900,000 First

Responders in the U.S. NAEMT only has about 12,000 members of th 900,000

First Reponders , and about 66% of those are free memberships. They have

been around about 20 years longer than EMSAT. What should they do?

Thanks

Ron

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>> I'm looking at the latest update from NAEMT membership statistics and

>> there are 920 members in Texas. I don't have a breakdown of paid

>> members

>> versus free ones from taking NAEMT classes.

>>

>> Connie Meyer

>> NAEMT Board of Directors

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

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Welcome back Ron. <grin>

-Wes

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What should EMSAT do to get the word out? They have done the following over

the years.

1. Have a booth at the EMS Conference

2. Hold their General Membership Meeting that is well posted at the

Conference during hours that does not interfere with classes

3. Held Receptions at the Conference

4. Have posted on this egroup since 1998

5. Have a quarterly news letter

6. Held Special called meetings on EMS legislation with over 25 Stakeholder

groups

7. Filed and passed legislation

8. Had booths at EMStock

9. Kept ads in the Texas EMS Magazine

10. Held meetings around the State in different locations

11. Held quarter meetings during GETAC meetings and at other times not with

GETAC. There is one coming up next week.

12 Held two EMSAT Conferences of their own.

13. Has kept a website

14. Has website listed at the DSHS website as a link and is linked at TAA,

and many other sites

15. Sold and has held Corporate Memberships

16. Testified many times at GETAC and the Legislature

17. Visited EMS Services and Other organizations to recruit members

18. Solicited EMS Students

19. Has it's own egroup that anyone can join

20. Sponsored the Texas EMS Party that TDH use to do at the EMS conference

and sponsored a party on 6th street in Austin during the conference.

This is JUST a FEW things they have done. EMSAT I know is always open to

suggestions. You have any? We need them. Or is it the EMS Community just

won't support a professional association? There are about 900,000 First

Responders in the U.S. NAEMT only has about 12,000 members of th 900,000

First Reponders , and about 66% of those are free memberships. They have

been around about 20 years longer than EMSAT. What should they do?

Thanks

Ron

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>> I'm looking at the latest update from NAEMT membership statistics and

>> there are 920 members in Texas. I don't have a breakdown of paid

>> members

>> versus free ones from taking NAEMT classes.

>>

>> Connie Meyer

>> NAEMT Board of Directors

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

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> kWhat should EMSAT do to get the word out? They have done the following over

> the years.

> 1. Have a booth at the EMS Conference

> 2. Hold their General Membership Meeting that is well posted at the

> Conference during hours that does not interfere with classes

> 3. Held Receptions at the Conference

Items 1-3 only apply to those at conference, less than 10% of EMS folks (or so).

> 4. Have posted on this egroup since 1998

> 5. Have a quarterly news letter

Items 4 and 5 apply to the approx 1% of EMS folks who are also on this list.

> 6. Held Special called meetings on EMS legislation with over 25 Stakeholder

> groups

> 7. Filed and passed legislation

Items 6 and 7 have little " reach, " PR-wise, with the EMSAT name on

them... they're practically invisible. Invaluable as a service, but

invisible nonetheless.

> 8. Had booths at EMStock

Very good idea, but poor execution, and only reached 300 people at best

> 9. Kept ads in the Texas EMS Magazine

With what " draw? " What was the " hook " for the ads? Wholly ineffective.

> 10. Held meetings around the State in different locations

> 11. Held quarter meetings during GETAC meetings and at other times not with

> GETAC. There is one coming up next week.

All of which less than 1% of EMS folks will attend, and less than 5%

could even tell you what's going on with...

> 12 Held two EMSAT Conferences of their own.

With what advertising (direct, by the numbers) and what attendance?

Less than 1%?

> 13. Has kept a website

But not really kept it up to date well...

> 14. Has website listed at the DSHS website as a link and is linked at TAA,

> and many other sites

This is passive - this doesn't count, especially with search engines

being de rigeur...

> 15. Sold and has held Corporate Memberships

To what percentage of Texas corporations? And how much did the use of

telemarketing actually damage EMSAT's credibility and reputation?

> 16. Testified many times at GETAC and the Legislature

> 17. Visited EMS Services and Other organizations to recruit members

> 18. Solicited EMS Students

How many people did these reach? Not even 5% of the EMS population?

> 19. Has it's own egroup that anyone can join

Why join? What's the benefit? And how can I join if I don't know

about it because advertising/awareness is ineffective/low,

respectively?

> 20. Sponsored the Texas EMS Party that TDH use to do at the EMS conference

> and sponsored a party on 6th street in Austin during the conference.

Again, reaching how many people??? Less than 5% for sure, right?

> This is JUST a FEW things they have done. EMSAT I know is always open to

> suggestions. You have any? We need them.

Yes, the same ones presented for years... get suppliers, etc. to

offset costs for a direct mail campaign through advertising and

incentives (mail everyone a professional brochure, and they get a

discount from the sponsor of the DM piece for joining EMSAT, and the

sponsor gets new customers). In the brochure, tout the real, tangible

benefits of joining EMSAT. If there aren't enough, raise dues to the

point you can add more. People expect less for cheap, and perceive

value with increased cost if the benefits are measureable. Split

memberships into co-funded local chapters... local issues, local

awareness, local representation and local influence - with the locals

(perhaps by RAC region?) supporting EMSAT at the state level?

I believe that TEMSF, recently re-formed (i.e. under new management),

can help EMSAT with this, and I'd love to sit down and explain how

this was originally intended to work - a partnership for the

progression of EMS in Texas. Who, of the EMSAT board, lives in/near

Austin or San ? I'd love to see what you/they think...

Mike , Director

Texas EMS Foundation

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