RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

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But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.

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> > I missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?

> > cathy

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[Guest guest]

People weren"t fasting then gobbling up acetaminophen. It would be my guess that they weren't fasting because they were feverish and feeling yucky from vaccs (and just not feeling hungry). I know nothing about Indian culture, but my guess would be people generally wouldn't start a fast while they were sick. No? -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med

School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.

>

> > I missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?

> > cathy

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

And probably not encountering gobs of other toxins at the same time...

 

People weren " t fasting then gobbling up acetaminophen. It would be my guess that they weren't fasting because they were feverish and feeling yucky from vaccs (and just not feeling hungry).  I know nothing about Indian culture, but my guess would be people generally wouldn't start a fast while they were sick. No?

 -Tammy

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

 

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of " Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)

interfering with detox " ? -----------Ratan Singh,  Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...

- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of " Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses " ;- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;

- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med

School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/   www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth

To: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...

Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

 

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.

>

> > I missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?

> > cathy

> >

> >

>

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I got your point Tammy. Thanks.People here in India fast for many reasons including religious--irrespective of whether they are ill or not. Also I am not happy with the other argument that ketones obstruct detox. In the ketogenic diet we have to take high amount of MCT, moderate protein and low carb. Our brain can utilize MCT as alternate fuel than glucose. This is important for those who have type3 diabetes where only the brain cells become glucose intolerant or insulin resistant. -----------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: t.lynn28@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:50:02 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

People weren"t fasting then gobbling up acetaminophen. It would be my guess that they weren't fasting because they were feverish and feeling yucky from vaccs (and just not feeling hungry). I know nothing about Indian culture, but my guess would be people generally wouldn't start a fast while they were sick. No? -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med

School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.

>

> > I missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?

> > cathy

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

yes ratan....i agree with you ...i think ketones are caused from low carb diets because people are eating so much more meat....

meat is acidic...we all need some acidic foods....but when your body is in acess....then you produce ketones....also fasting on nothing but water in a very toxic person could bring about to much toxins at once...

i know mainstream medicine does not approve of fasting for health....but modified juice fasting i think is a great healing tool....but most mainstream docs would disagree venemously with me....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AMSubject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------

Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth

To: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.> > > I

missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?> > cathy> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Ratan, I wish I knew, my friend. There is a facebook page (acetaminophenandautism) - perhaps if you left a message there, someone could answer. -Tammy To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

I got your point Tammy. Thanks.People here in India fast for many reasons including religious--irrespective of whether they are ill or not. Also I am not happy with the other argument that ketones obstruct detox. In the ketogenic diet we have to take high amount of MCT, moderate protein and low carb. Our brain can utilize MCT as alternate fuel than glucose. This is important for those who have type3 diabetes where only the brain cells become glucose intolerant or insulin resistant. -----------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major

Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: t.lynn28@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:50:02 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

People weren"t fasting then gobbling up acetaminophen. It would be my guess that they weren't fasting because they were feverish and feeling yucky from vaccs (and just not feeling hungry). I know nothing about Indian culture, but my guess would be people generally wouldn't start a fast while they were sick. No? -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med

School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.

>

> > I missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?

> > cathy

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Your are right Channa. So, we should follow the rule to restrict protein to 20 to 30 gm (about a fist-full) each meal. No more. But high MCT is ok.Ratan.------------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:48:36 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

yes ratan....i agree with you ...i think ketones are caused from low carb diets because people are eating so much more meat....

meat is acidic...we all need some acidic foods....but when your body is in acess....then you produce ketones....also fasting on nothing but water in a very toxic person could bring about to much toxins at once...

i know mainstream medicine does not approve of fasting for health....but modified juice fasting i think is a great healing tool....but most mainstream docs would disagree venemously with me....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AMSubject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------

Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth

To: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.> > > I

missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?> > cathy> >> >>

[Guest guest]

I also wanted to mention since the subject was brought up...i have been doin a lot of research on fasting....and done in the correct way i believe is one of the most powerful healing tools available....like anything it must be done with first educating oneself of the dangers as well as benifits....as well as the proper and safe way to fast..and lastly it is not easy to do...it takes a lot of will power ....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:25 AMSubject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

Your are right Channa. So, we should follow the rule to restrict protein to 20 to 30 gm (about a fist-full) each meal. No more. But high MCT is ok.Ratan.------------

Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:48:36 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

yes ratan....i agree with you ...i think ketones are caused from low carb diets because people are eating so much more meat....

meat is acidic...we all need some acidic foods....but when your body is in acess....then you produce ketones....also fasting on nothing but water in a very toxic person could bring about to much toxins at once...

i know mainstream medicine does not approve of fasting for health....but modified juice fasting i think is a great healing tool....but most mainstream docs would disagree venemously with me....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:23 AMSubject: RE: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night---ketones and fasting and detox

But how do you explain this: Fasting has been the tradition over centuries in India as a method to detox? Fasting (low calorie diet) is knownto be associated with longevity as proven in animal studies across species. So where go the theory of "Ketones accumulation (due to fasting)interfering with detox"? -----------

Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth

To: mb12valtrex From: caryn_reid@...Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:17:27 +0000Subject: Re: Dr. Shaw's webinar last night

I also heard him say that the accumulation of ketones from low carb diets or fasting will interfere with detox.>

> > I missed this, rats, can anyone give me a short update?> > cathy> >> >>

[Guest guest]

I don't fast long term, but I know I think more clearly when I have no food for almost an entire day. I have also noticed my kids act nicer too... and I only think this is because of all the stupid food sensitivities we have!

Really kinda stinks! :-\

 

I also wanted to mention since the subject was brought up...i have been doin a lot of research on fasting....and done in the correct way i believe is one of the most powerful healing tools available....like anything it must be done with first educating oneself of the dangers as well as benifits....as well as the proper and safe way to fast..and lastly it is not easy to do...it takes a lot of will power ....

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