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oh my gosh Bettina....unreal..I was scared they were goin to accuse me of that next ...and of course every day I live in fear...i picked up mt son from school today and had his probiotics to give him as we were

goin to run some errands an we wernt goin home....i parked in the back parking lot

looked around like a criminal and then shouted like a drill sergeant hurry! swallow the pills before they see us! this paranoia cant be good for my son....but this is the land we live in.

I want to put together a compilation of all these posts ONLY if I get you guys permission and would withhold names..i will contact off list I want to put an article together and start sending it off to as many places as possible...

I doubt anything would get published as this is the elephant in the room no one will admit too...

but i want to keep trying....i have to keep trying......

if things keep goin this way many more kids are gonna get hurt...

if they really saw how kids are getting better from these strict diets and supps they wouldnt be persecuting us like this....but then again these people are not lookin for the truth ..

its bullcrap.

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:54 PMSubject: Re: Re : Re : channa update

Hello Mothers out there! I too have been through the ringer with CPS. This December I went to the ER with my 16 yr old who is unstable from Lyme in the CNS and had the preexisting diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. He is deteriorating quickly. I managed to get him to the infectious disease doctor in late December. I am considering suing the hospital for obstruction of medical care. They did not treat him, just called in social services. I asked for him to be transported to Children's Egleston in Atlanta (who said they said I could) to be admitted and worked up for Lyme, since I had just received the test on Wednesday before this Sunday visit to the Er. Then the Er doc in Athens tells me that they can't transport him. I was accused of Munchausen's by proxy. I still don't have the three page report the SW wrote up. DFCS cleared me and closed the case. I live in fear of doing the alternative treatments , because I know they will use this

against me if they can. Yet, do do anything different is hardly effective. NOw I have to decide to do the antibiotics for 18 months, or to used rife and other killing protocol for lyme. I see the ID dr. the end of this month to discuss the treatment plan. I too did the chelation in 2008-09 and saw great improvement, unfortunately we have lost ground now more than ever. I can only say that we are truly losing our rights as parents in an incompetent society who knows just enough to be dangerous with only a few sages to turn to, who themselves are considered not wise by the world's standards. We live in frightening times. Bettina

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:03 PMSubject: Re : Re : channa update

Wow! I would never think there is another crazy society like that were I live (I can't say mine, I'm not a French from birth).

My no chance is my son's father, no longer my husband, I have another one, far much better (-:

He wants his son spent his life in institution, in this case, no money to pay for him! Easy count, isn't it?

And here, the institution is worse of all hells.

Struggle with autism is hard, struggle with INSTITUTION is... I feel me little bit Don Quichote this time.

De : Christel Church À : mb12valtrex Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 Janvier 2012 17h10Objet : Re: Re : channa update

I went through that in maine as well because the preschool my son was in didn't like that he never got carbs or milk even though they had notes from the dr stating he couldn't because of allergies and medical issues. she called CPS every day for weeks apparently saying he had a diaper rash *yup we had strep and yeast issues) and was to yellow....seriously. it was a 8 month investigation where I was told If I chelated my son again they would conciter it abuse and reopen the case. my drs also rushed to my defence and other friends. it was crazy like we don't have enough to fight for our kids

From: Channa Brennon

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:07 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re : channa update

oh Marina, this was the saddest part of all for me...knowing that so many good mothers are goin thru this....I wish I was the only one this insanity happened too...

yes my lawyer told me that if they kept the case open he thought they would try to go with the "possessive mother" label....that I couldnt seperate my identity from my son. "all those home cooked meals from scratch...must be something loony with me."

I have heard how horrible it is in europe..I plan on spending the rest of my life exposing the dangers of so called child protective services amoung other things....

my advice is to never show emotions around them. they will label you as unstable if you do. act like a polite robot. get as many letters from as many people willing to defend you as a mother....find a therapist/mental health proffesional that you really feel comfortable with and start seeing her so she can defend you!

if you dont have a docter to back you up then tell them you stopped all biomed/ wierd diets ect. then find as decent a docter as possible to defend you and that you are now feeding' treating your child in appropriate way. but most of all find a docter willing to defend your views on vaccintations....

my docter was useless except he didnt beleive in vaccinations and believed in food allergies.

also find an orginazation that beleives in homeschooling to keep your rights to do so...I will write you off list also. ..I just think its important all of us know how this can happen to any of us!

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:14 AMSubject: Re : channa update

Hi Channa,

here's France and the same hell (I think worse): investigation because I treat my son for Lyme and do the GFCFSF diet.

For me, it's not finished yet: the investigation described me like "possesive mother"... because the public school don't want my son any longer and I must do homescooling.

Hope I'll have the same chance that you, but here's France....

Marina

De : channabrennon À : mb12valtrex Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 Janvier 2012 4h19Objet : channa updateI just wanted to give an update with my son in hopes it will be any benefit to others...I am still on imusist with my son and while he had great language gains there is a lot of aggression and irritibility..i am finally ordering some chlorella tonight in hopes the binder will help..his poop is getting lighter and thinner...telling me stuff is building in the liver and the colon....also he is on humaworm! just to make it more fun...so lots of things dieing but not really goin anywhere...so as i said im ordering chlorella and just

started today with pysilium powder....willl add in some senna every couple days so i can hopefully see things moving out..other then that i am excited to get some more minerals on board as i believe this is another issue for my son...thanks to every one on this group who share their experiences i realized that my sons growth issues are probably do to zinc defieciency...and i am goin to get some of the liquid hopefully easy to assimilate kind with no sorbate this time!and last i want to start up with AC chelation again because he always was the calmest when on rounds....I also want to say thank you to all the prayers and kind words that was sent to me over the last three months.. I found out today the DCF investigation has been closed.it was three months of pure hell they put me thru...they pushed so hard tryin to find me guilty of something and only by the grace of God and the fact i had so many people come to my

defense..teachers his docter ect...they realized they could not win..they realized I would fight them with both fists flying..if it wasnt for the fact my ped doesnt believe in vaccinations they would have forced me to vaccinate my son. DCF have the power to do anything they want. it is sick and almost unbelievable that evil that is done by the people who are suppose to protect. kind of like the FDA or your mainstream pediatrician.I wont go on my whole world sucks rant..but just want to say I love you guys ..xo channa------------------------------------

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Channa : I have seen it time and time again," Pride goeth before the down fall of man"...These people are prideful and arrogant that we encounter. We yearn for justice, as most do when we experience the sting of injustice. I personally think that the philosophy of the primacy of the parents according to the natural law has been totally disregarded. Even when my son was in the ER and I saw the social worker taking him a sandwich, I said, " Mam, are you taking that to my son..and she said," Yes." I politely told her not to give that to him , because he was on a strict gluten and casein free diet. She defied me so arrogantly saying," Mam , your son is hungry.I have already given him half of a sandwich and I will give him the other." to

which I replied it will make him violently ill...the best thing you can do for him is to abide by the doctor's orders. She continued to defy me with verbage...I then had to get the ER doctor , and told him I had the med records in my bag that specifically stated he was to be GFCF and I did not appreciate her disrespect for my authority . It is a crime that someone is given that much power in a case where it is the very livelihood of the child and family that is risk. There was a woman in GA that had her kids taken away from her because they had lyme, and the controversy of treatment.I heard about that through GA Lyme right about the time they got on me in December. Fortunately, they were returned to her,but not without the legal hullabaloo and much suffering. I read on the web site of M.A.M.A. Mother against Munshausen's by proxy Association of an infant that died, because of the SW

and doctor not listening to the mother in the ER. I think it was at Vanderbilt University Hospital. It was one of those hospitals in Nashville, TN. I really want to sue about this,but don't know if I am going to be bringing fire down on my own head if I pursue this. It is a matter of principle. This was the second time I had to deal with DFCS . When he was about nine he ran off from me in the neighborhood barefoot in March. I couldn't catch him. Of course, this was a behavioral pattern he had and is common for ASD. He looked like an orphan ,because he had a blanket wrapped around him . Some do good neighbors stopped him on the road, because it was during school hours and he was being homeschooled then. They never understood that he was having behavior problems due to ASD and food allergies. This was before we ever took him to have chelation. That social worker wanted to crucify me. Found out later

she was new to the business , so she was a zealot. We had to call HomeSchool Legal Defense Association to write a letter and my husband threatened to sue them if this was not closed. At least the SW we got with DCFS this time had a brain in her head. It was the one at the hospital that was on the witch hunt. It is so frightening to have a sick child to begin with and worry what the final outcome is going to be. It is just compounded as we are threatened by society of losing our privileges. I just wish they would leave us the ... alone, so we can do our jobs in peace. As for publishing these things , it would be fine with me...I just don't think we can get much of anywhere without legal advocacy as a collective whole. Laws need to be revised to protect parents from stupidity of SW's . I know they had to revise the laws in Canada ,because it was a runaway buggy. So happy for you that things were resolved. They just closed my case last

week. I am just glad we have our yahoo support groups..(I am on three of them) Without having that contact and knowing that I am not in this alone..I think I would succumb completely to the depression that dogs me till these problems are resolved. Best wishes to all of you, personally, all the other families, and all warrior moms out there. We will be able to say someday, " We have fought the good fight." Bettina To: "mb12valtrex "

<mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:47 PM Subject: OT : more cps saga

oh my gosh Bettina....unreal..I was scared they were goin to accuse me of that next ...and of course every day I live in fear...i picked up mt son from school today and had his probiotics to give him as we were

goin to run some errands an we wernt goin home....i parked in the back parking lot

looked around like a criminal and then shouted like a drill sergeant hurry! swallow the pills before they see us! this paranoia cant be good for my son....but this is the land we live in.

I want to put together a compilation of all these posts ONLY if I get you guys permission and would withhold names..i will contact off list I want to put an article together and start sending it off to as many places as possible...

I doubt anything would get published as this is the elephant in the room no one will admit too...

but i want to keep trying....i have to keep trying......

if things keep goin this way many more kids are gonna get hurt...

if they really saw how kids are getting better from these strict diets and supps they wouldnt be persecuting us like this....but then again these people are not lookin for the truth ..

its bullcrap.

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:54 PMSubject: Re: Re : Re : channa update

Hello Mothers out there! I too have been through the ringer with CPS. This December I went to the ER with my 16 yr old who is unstable from Lyme in the CNS and had the preexisting diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. He is deteriorating quickly. I managed to get him to the infectious disease doctor in late December. I am considering suing the hospital for obstruction of medical care. They did not treat him, just called in social services. I asked for him to be transported to Children's Egleston in Atlanta (who said they said I could) to be admitted and worked up for Lyme, since I had just received the test on Wednesday before this Sunday visit to the Er. Then the Er doc in Athens tells me that they can't transport him. I was accused of Munchausen's by proxy. I still don't have the three page report the SW wrote up. DFCS cleared me and closed the case. I live in fear of doing the alternative treatments , because I know they will use this

against me if they can. Yet, do do anything different is hardly effective. NOw I have to decide to do the antibiotics for 18 months, or to used rife and other killing protocol for lyme. I see the ID dr. the end of this month to discuss the treatment plan. I too did the chelation in 2008-09 and saw great improvement, unfortunately we have lost ground now more than ever. I can only say that we are truly losing our rights as parents in an incompetent society who knows just enough to be dangerous with only a few sages to turn to, who themselves are considered not wise by the world's standards. We live in frightening times. Bettina

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:03 PMSubject: Re : Re : channa update

Wow! I would never think there is another crazy society like that were I live (I can't say mine, I'm not a French from birth).

My no chance is my son's father, no longer my husband, I have another one, far much better (-:

He wants his son spent his life in institution, in this case, no money to pay for him! Easy count, isn't it?

And here, the institution is worse of all hells.

Struggle with autism is hard, struggle with INSTITUTION is... I feel me little bit Don Quichote this time.

De : Christel Church À : mb12valtrex Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 Janvier 2012 17h10Objet : Re: Re : channa update

I went through that in maine as well because the preschool my son was in didn't like that he never got carbs or milk even though they had notes from the dr stating he couldn't because of allergies and medical issues. she called CPS every day for weeks apparently saying he had a diaper rash *yup we had strep and yeast issues) and was to yellow....seriously. it was a 8 month investigation where I was told If I chelated my son again they would conciter it abuse and reopen the case. my drs also rushed to my defence and other friends. it was crazy like we don't have enough to fight for our kids

From: Channa Brennon

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:07 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re : channa update

oh Marina, this was the saddest part of all for me...knowing that so many good mothers are goin thru this....I wish I was the only one this insanity happened too...

yes my lawyer told me that if they kept the case open he thought they would try to go with the "possessive mother" label....that I couldnt seperate my identity from my son. "all those home cooked meals from scratch...must be something loony with me."

I have heard how horrible it is in europe..I plan on spending the rest of my life exposing the dangers of so called child protective services amoung other things....

my advice is to never show emotions around them. they will label you as unstable if you do. act like a polite robot. get as many letters from as many people willing to defend you as a mother....find a therapist/mental health proffesional that you really feel comfortable with and start seeing her so she can defend you!

if you dont have a docter to back you up then tell them you stopped all biomed/ wierd diets ect. then find as decent a docter as possible to defend you and that you are now feeding' treating your child in appropriate way. but most of all find a docter willing to defend your views on vaccintations....

my docter was useless except he didnt beleive in vaccinations and believed in food allergies.

also find an orginazation that beleives in homeschooling to keep your rights to do so...I will write you off list also. ..I just think its important all of us know how this can happen to any of us!

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:14 AMSubject: Re : channa update

Hi Channa,

here's France and the same hell (I think worse): investigation because I treat my son for Lyme and do the GFCFSF diet.

For me, it's not finished yet: the investigation described me like "possesive mother"... because the public school don't want my son any longer and I must do homescooling.

Hope I'll have the same chance that you, but here's France....

Marina

De : channabrennon À : mb12valtrex Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 Janvier 2012 4h19Objet : channa updateI just wanted to give an update with my son in hopes it will be any benefit to others...I am still on imusist with my son and while he had great language gains there is a lot of aggression and irritibility..i am finally ordering some chlorella tonight in hopes the binder will help..his poop is getting lighter and thinner...telling me stuff is building in the liver and the colon....also he is on humaworm! just to make it more fun...so lots of things dieing but not really goin anywhere...so as i said im ordering chlorella

and just

started today with pysilium powder....willl add in some senna every couple days so i can hopefully see things moving out..other then that i am excited to get some more minerals on board as i believe this is another issue for my son...thanks to every one on this group who share their experiences i realized that my sons growth issues are probably do to zinc defieciency...and i am goin to get some of the liquid hopefully easy to assimilate kind with no sorbate this time!and last i want to start up with AC chelation again because he always was the calmest when on rounds....I also want to say thank you to all the prayers and kind words that was sent to me over the last three months.. I found out today the DCF investigation has been closed.it was three months of pure hell they put me thru...they pushed so hard tryin to find me guilty of something and only by the grace of God and the fact i had so many people come to my

defense..teachers his docter ect...they realized they could not win..they realized I would fight them with both fists flying..if it wasnt for the fact my ped doesnt believe in vaccinations they would have forced me to vaccinate my son. DCF have the power to do anything they want. it is sick and almost unbelievable that evil that is done by the people who are suppose to protect. kind of like the FDA or your mainstream pediatrician.I wont go on my whole world sucks rant..but just want to say I love you guys ..xo channa------------------------------------

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