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Abby can't be 13 already !! I know just turned 15 but it's hard

realizing our 'lil ones' are growing up.

just reminded me this morning that he'll be able to get his learners

permit this summer YIKES!!!!

Casey

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I don't even want to think about that!!! Tim said the other day--I can't wait

till August I'll be a teenager!! I said no you won't you'll be 12!!! ok I

can't wait till next year in august--then I'll be a teenager--I can wait!!!

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Abby can't be 13 already !! I know just turned 15 but it's hard

realizing our 'lil ones' are growing up.

just reminded me this morning that he'll be able to get his learners

permit this summer YIKES!!!!

Casey

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oh my lol i sometimes say ill b old next bday lol

>

> I don't even want to think about that!!! Tim said the other day--I can't

> wait till August I'll be a teenager!! I said no you won't you'll be 12!!! ok

> I can't wait till next year in august--then I'll be a teenager--I can

> wait!!!

>

>

> Re: hello

>

> !!!!

>

> Abby can't be 13 already !! I know just turned 15 but it's hard

> realizing our 'lil ones' are growing up.

> just reminded me this morning that he'll be able to get his learners

> permit this summer YIKES!!!!

>

> Casey

>

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> Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate

> in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q & A.

> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

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  • 3 years later...

Hi Debbie,

Good to hear from you. Tell your son that is really awesome they raised that

much money.

Hugs

nne

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world "

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May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever "

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> hello

>

> HELLO GROUP, IM ON MY NIECES CP. AS SOON AS MY FINANCES ALLOWS I WILL BE

> GETTING

> A CP AND GETTING ON LINE. MY COUSIN DEBBI TOLD ME ABOUT THE EMAILS

> EVERYONE WAS

> GETTING. IM VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HOPE THIS FINDS EVERYONE WELL.

> THANKSGIVING

> IS ON ITS WAY. TWO MORE DAYS. MY DID THIS YEAR FLY.EVERYTHINGS FINE WITH

> ME. A

> LITTLE LEG TROUBLE BUT NOTHING I CANT DEAL WITH. MY SON ZACHARYS DOING

> GREAT.

> HES IN FOOTBALL.THEY HAD 13 GAMES AND WON EVERY ONE OF THEM. DONT KNOW IF

> ANYONE

> HAS HEARD OF THE HEATHERS HEAVEN BUT ITS IN MEMORY OF HEATHER MILLER. A

> GIRL WHO

> DIED OF CANCER. WELL MY SONS TEAM AND A FEW OTHER TEAMS HAD A PLAY OFF

> GAME PLUS

> THERE WAS A WHOLE DAY OF FUN AND OTHER STUFF IN HER MEMORY AND FOR OTHERS

> WHO

> HAVE OR HAD CANCER. ALL TOGETHER THEY RAISED 129 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR

> CANCER

> RESEARCH.JUST GOES TO SHOW THERE ARE SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD.

> WELL I

> GUESS IVE SAID ENOUGH. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT AND SAFE HOLIDAY. ALL

> OUR

> LOVE DEBBIE AND ZACK HUTZELL

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Hi Debbie,

Good to hear from you. Tell your son that is really awesome they raised that

much money.

Hugs

nne

To the world you might be one person, but to one person you just might be the

world "

" May the Lord Bless you and keep you,

May the Lord Make his face shine upon you, and give you Peace...Forever "

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

http://breastcancerpatientssoulmatesforlife.bravehost.com/

Anxiety Depression and Breast Cancer

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AnxietyDepressionandBreastCancer

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

The Cancer Club

www.cancerclub.com

> hello

>

> HELLO GROUP, IM ON MY NIECES CP. AS SOON AS MY FINANCES ALLOWS I WILL BE

> GETTING

> A CP AND GETTING ON LINE. MY COUSIN DEBBI TOLD ME ABOUT THE EMAILS

> EVERYONE WAS

> GETTING. IM VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HOPE THIS FINDS EVERYONE WELL.

> THANKSGIVING

> IS ON ITS WAY. TWO MORE DAYS. MY DID THIS YEAR FLY.EVERYTHINGS FINE WITH

> ME. A

> LITTLE LEG TROUBLE BUT NOTHING I CANT DEAL WITH. MY SON ZACHARYS DOING

> GREAT.

> HES IN FOOTBALL.THEY HAD 13 GAMES AND WON EVERY ONE OF THEM. DONT KNOW IF

> ANYONE

> HAS HEARD OF THE HEATHERS HEAVEN BUT ITS IN MEMORY OF HEATHER MILLER. A

> GIRL WHO

> DIED OF CANCER. WELL MY SONS TEAM AND A FEW OTHER TEAMS HAD A PLAY OFF

> GAME PLUS

> THERE WAS A WHOLE DAY OF FUN AND OTHER STUFF IN HER MEMORY AND FOR OTHERS

> WHO

> HAVE OR HAD CANCER. ALL TOGETHER THEY RAISED 129 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR

> CANCER

> RESEARCH.JUST GOES TO SHOW THERE ARE SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD.

> WELL I

> GUESS IVE SAID ENOUGH. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT AND SAFE HOLIDAY. ALL

> OUR

> LOVE DEBBIE AND ZACK HUTZELL

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DebbieIt's SO good to hear from you! I am looking forward to you being back on line on a regular basis. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Way to go to Zack!hugs SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Cc: deborahhutzell@...Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 7:09:40 AMSubject: hello

HELLO GROUP, IM ON MY NIECES CP. AS SOON AS MY FINANCES ALLOWS I WILL BE GETTING A CP AND GETTING ON LINE. MY COUSIN DEBBI TOLD ME ABOUT THE EMAILS EVERYONE WAS GETTING. IM VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HOPE THIS FINDS EVERYONE WELL. THANKSGIVING IS ON ITS WAY. TWO MORE DAYS. MY DID THIS YEAR FLY.EVERYTHINGS FINE WITH ME. A LITTLE LEG TROUBLE BUT NOTHING I CANT DEAL WITH. MY SON ZACHARYS DOING GREAT. HES IN FOOTBALL.THEY HAD 13 GAMES AND WON EVERY ONE OF THEM. DONT KNOW IF ANYONE HAS HEARD OF THE HEATHERS HEAVEN BUT ITS IN MEMORY OF HEATHER MILLER. A GIRL WHO DIED OF CANCER. WELL MY SONS TEAM AND A FEW OTHER TEAMS HAD A PLAY OFF GAME PLUS THERE WAS A WHOLE DAY OF FUN AND OTHER STUFF IN HER MEMORY AND FOR OTHERS WHO HAVE OR HAD CANCER. ALL TOGETHER THEY RAISED 129 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR CANCER

RESEARCH.JUST GOES TO SHOW THERE ARE SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD. WELL I GUESS IVE SAID ENOUGH. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT AND SAFE HOLIDAY. ALL OUR LOVE DEBBIE AND ZACK HUTZELL

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Nice to see you posting...your son should be proud!

Stay safe and healthy...see you online soon!

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-- hello

HELLO GROUP, IM ON MY NIECES CP. AS SOON AS MY FINANCES ALLOWS I WILL BE GETTING A CP AND GETTING ON LINE. MY COUSIN DEBBI TOLD ME ABOUT THE EMAILS EVERYONE WAS GETTING. IM VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HOPE THIS FINDS EVERYONE WELL. THANKSGIVING IS ON ITS WAY. TWO MORE DAYS. MY DID THIS YEAR FLY.EVERYTHINGS FINE WITH ME. A LITTLE LEG TROUBLE BUT NOTHING I CANT DEAL WITH. MY SON ZACHARYS DOING GREAT. HES IN FOOTBALL.THEY HAD 13 GAMES AND WON EVERY ONE OF THEM. DONT KNOW IF ANYONE HAS HEARD OF THE HEATHERS HEAVEN BUT ITS IN MEMORY OF HEATHER MILLER. A GIRL WHO DIED OF CANCER. WELL MY SONS TEAM AND A FEW OTHER TEAMS HAD A PLAY OFF GAME PLUS THERE WAS A WHOLE DAY OF FUN AND OTHER STUFF IN HER MEMORY AND FOR OTHERS WHO HAVE OR HAD CANCER. ALL TOGETHER THEY RAISED 129 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR CANCER RESEARCH.JUST GOES TO SHOW THERE ARE SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD. WELL I GUESS IVE SAID ENOUGH. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT AND SAFE HOLIDAY. ALL OUR LOVE DEBBIE AND ZACK HUTZELL

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  • 1 year later...

I just discovered through my work with a counselor that my mother most likely

has bpd. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that her erratic, controlling

behavior had a name and that my brother and I are NOT alone in dealing with

someone like this.

No one ever believed us. " She so nice and she loves you " ,they say. Yet, they

have never seen the red faced rage because they chewed their food too loudly or

walked too heavily. They have not been the recipients of constant put down

humor or isolated from friends and neighbors. I doubt any of them who think she

is so wonderful and misunderstood were ever chased up the stairs while being hit

or hid under bed covers to get away from the beating.

My heart goes out to all of you on this list, but I am so relieved to know that

it is NOT just me. That I am not over reacting and I am not making things up,

as some would believe. I feel validated now, if that makes any sense.

Rosie

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Welcome to the Group Rosie. Yes, I too found it so validating to discover that

it wasn't just me, that I wasn't the only one who had grown up with a mother who

could seem so nice and charming around other adults, and yet could change into

such a terrifying, raging, critical person toward me (and my Sister and our dad)

in private. Her rages sometimes struck out of the blue, and at other times I

could see the irritation and anger building up in her toward an explosive rage.

Her rages often included physical violence toward my Sister and me, as well as

shaming and humiliating us. It helped me greatly to realize that I did not

cause my mother to act that way. So, you are not alone.

My suggestion for new members is to read up as much as you can about the Cluster

B personality disorders. Borderline pd is part of this cluster: the dramatic,

erratic personality disorders are histrionic pd, borderline pd, narcissistic pd,

and antisocial pd. Some of the traits and behaviors of the other Cluster B pds

can overlap borderline pd, and sometimes occur with bpd as a comorbidity.

There are many good books out there now, such as Randi Kreger's books, and

Lawson's book " Understanding The Borderline Mother " , and a book called

'Surviving A Borderline Parent. " There are books about overcoming codependency,

and about setting protective boundaries for yourself, also. There is a reading

list at the home site of this Group.

There is something about understanding and accepting that our parent has a

genuine mental illness that somehow allows us to take their abusive behaviors

toward us less personally; it helps us to shed the misplaced guilt,

inappropriate feelings of responsibility and false beliefs that if we somehow

try harder, we will change our parents or cure them, or make them happy.

It is simply not in our power to save our mentally ill parent from their own

self.

Nothing we can possibly do or say can make your mother happy with herself,

inside herself. She is the only one who has that power, but she has to want to

change herself and seek therapy. We, the children of the mentally ill, did not

cause our parent to become mentally ill and we can't cure them.

All we CAN do, all we have the power to do is decide how we are going to behave,

and how we are going to manage a relationship with someone who is chronically

abusive to us, or dangerous to us, or someone who chronically exploits us, or is

chronically looking to us to rescue them. We CAN choose to protect ourselves,

and seek therapy for ourselves to help us heal from the emotional damage

inflicted on us during our vulnerable growing-up years.

As adults we now have the power to create normal, reasonable boundaries to

protect ourselves from further exploitation, mistreatment, and abuse, such as

going Low or LImited Contact with firm boundaries and consequences in place. In

the most severe cases (if our parent or sibling is threatening to harm us/our

family physically or do other harm) we have the power to decide to go totally No

Contact either temporarily or permanently.

So, welcome. We're all on a journey here toward personal healing and greater

peace, each by our own paths. But its good to have fellow travelers on that

road with us.

-Annie

>

> I just discovered through my work with a counselor that my mother most likely

has bpd. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that her erratic, controlling

behavior had a name and that my brother and I are NOT alone in dealing with

someone like this.

>

> No one ever believed us. " She so nice and she loves you " ,they say. Yet, they

have never seen the red faced rage because they chewed their food too loudly or

walked too heavily. They have not been the recipients of constant put down

humor or isolated from friends and neighbors. I doubt any of them who think she

is so wonderful and misunderstood were ever chased up the stairs while being hit

or hid under bed covers to get away from the beating.

>

> My heart goes out to all of you on this list, but I am so relieved to know

that it is NOT just me. That I am not over reacting and I am not making things

up, as some would believe. I feel validated now, if that makes any sense.

>

> Rosie

>

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