Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

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No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groupskids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not " nutritionists " we have education in nutrition they require us to take.

It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to " not judge a book by its cover " but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly.

I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the

kitchen. They might write " rotting veggies in jars on counter " LOL ~ perhaps in the cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your " nourishing traditions " cookbook so if they saw ityou could say " i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics " Don't explain it rolling your

eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)

OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins

and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher

abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.

Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.

It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happened

and that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.

So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.

I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said " I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email! "

So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....

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they are not all bad toni just like not all docters are all bad or anyone for that matter...but the first time i was investigated,,,( when the docters said i was starving my son and was mentally ill because i claimed the milk made him sick.)...i really did have evil socail workers....the first lady in the hospital put me thru hell in fron of my son I had to plead with her for me to find a nurse to watch him so he didnt have to watch me cry...she didnt give a F. then i had a worker comin to my house three times a week who actually made up stuff about me...and twisted everything she saw....I swear before God this happened and i say this because we like to believe people are not evil but the sad truth is that they are evil people

out thier....

and when it comes to a DCF worker who has power ocer your childs life it is down right dangerous....

sometimes you get a decent worker.. i had many experiences with not being that lucky....and so just like everyone else in the world you have good and bad and you cant assume you will have a good and fair socail worker you have to be prepared for the worst....wish i had known this four years ago when i thought socail workers couldnt lie.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:23 AMSubject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not "nutritionists" we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to "not judge a book by its cover" but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly. I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the kitchen. They might write "rotting veggies in jars on counter" LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your "nourishing traditions" cookbook so if they saw ityou could say "i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics" Don't explain it rolling your eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said "I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email!"So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....Sent from my iPod

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this last investigation i had a worker who maybe wasnt evil but i begged him not to contact my ex..i told him he was abusive and i was scared for my sons safety....he casually told me while that their was a new program called fathers inititive and they wanted to get the fathers invloved.

i couldnt believe my ears....i think he was eating something while he was talking to me...like everything i said meant notheing.....i went thru hell to bring up proof of my abuse i went thru which was bullshit.....then i had to cantact a lot of people to keep this one itty bitty socail worker with the power of F###in God to not destroy my life.

why was he so insensitive to smething as serious as domestic violence? well we could say he was hardened by the job and what he had seen? i think that is the biggest lie people tell themselves that they are hardened by what they have seen....

i spent my entire life living in abuse...almost died as a kid due to abuse i lived thru....i seen the ungliness in people so many times I truely thought there could not possibly be a God.....so when i hear someone wine about bein hardened by life i want to scream...becuase its a lie....people can be good despite seeing and goin thru the worst of things and then people can be evil just because they can and becuase they are selfish.

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:01 PMSubject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

they are not all bad toni just like not all docters are all bad or anyone for that matter...but the first time i was investigated,,,( when the docters said i was starving my son and was mentally ill because i claimed the milk made him sick.)...i really did have evil socail workers....the first lady in the hospital put me thru hell in fron of my son I had to plead with her for me to find a nurse to watch him so he didnt have to watch me cry...she didnt give a F. then i had a worker comin to my house three times a week who actually made up stuff about me...and twisted everything she saw....I swear before God this happened and i say this because we like to believe people are not evil but the sad truth is that they are evil people out thier....

and when it comes to a DCF worker who has power ocer your childs life it is down right dangerous....

sometimes you get a decent worker.. i had many experiences with not being that lucky....and so just like everyone else in the world you have good and bad and you cant assume you will have a good and fair socail worker you have to be prepared for the worst....wish i had known this four years ago when i thought socail workers couldnt lie.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:23 AMSubject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not "nutritionists" we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to "not judge a book by its cover" but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly. I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the kitchen. They might write "rotting veggies in jars on counter" LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your "nourishing traditions" cookbook so if they saw ityou could say "i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics" Don't explain it rolling your eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said "I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email!"So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....Sent from my iPod

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I guess the point that disappoints me and disillusioned me is that someone can say whatever lies about how u treat uo child and they will drop everything to investigate u.....Yet no one drs social worker will investigate our concerns on why our kids r unwell instead they make it out we r mad and do not know our own kids and ve no idea how and when they became unwellBig govm always right and we r always wrong!!!Sent from my iPod

this last investigation i had a worker who maybe wasnt evil but i begged him not to contact my ex..i told him he was abusive and i was scared for my sons safety....he casually told me while that their was a new program called fathers inititive and they wanted to get the fathers invloved.

i couldnt believe my ears....i think he was eating something while he was talking to me...like everything i said meant notheing.....i went thru hell to bring up proof of my abuse i went thru which was bullshit.....then i had to cantact a lot of people to keep this one itty bitty socail worker with the power of F###in God to not destroy my life.

why was he so insensitive to smething as serious as domestic violence? well we could say he was hardened by the job and what he had seen? i think that is the biggest lie people tell themselves that they are hardened by what they have seen....

i spent my entire life living in abuse...almost died as a kid due to abuse i lived thru....i seen the ungliness in people so many times I truely thought there could not possibly be a God.....so when i hear someone wine about bein hardened by life i want to scream...becuase its a lie....people can be good despite seeing and goin thru the worst of things and then people can be evil just because they can and becuase they are selfish.

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:01 PMSubject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

they are not all bad toni just like not all docters are all bad or anyone for that matter...but the first time i was investigated,,,( when the docters said i was starving my son and was mentally ill because i claimed the milk made him sick.)...i really did have evil socail workers....the first lady in the hospital put me thru hell in fron of my son I had to plead with her for me to find a nurse to watch him so he didnt have to watch me cry...she didnt give a F. then i had a worker comin to my house three times a week who actually made up stuff about me...and twisted everything she saw....I swear before God this happened and i say this because we like to believe people are not evil but the sad truth is that they are evil people out thier....

and when it comes to a DCF worker who has power ocer your childs life it is down right dangerous....

sometimes you get a decent worker.. i had many experiences with not being that lucky....and so just like everyone else in the world you have good and bad and you cant assume you will have a good and fair socail worker you have to be prepared for the worst....wish i had known this four years ago when i thought socail workers couldnt lie.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:23 AMSubject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not "nutritionists" we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to "not judge a book by its cover" but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly. I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the kitchen. They might write "rotting veggies in jars on counter" LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your "nourishing traditions" cookbook so if they saw ityou could say "i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics" Don't explain it rolling your eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said "I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email!"So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....Sent from my iPod

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Toni, that's SO MESSED UP!  I think I'd question Gabi more abt the situation bc they're getting awfully defensive - it almost looks like they're putting an investigation on you to distract your attention from something else that happened there.  Does Gabi have an aide?  She said the class got loud bc the teacher left the room.  Why did the teacher leave a room full of kids unattended especially when one of the kids has ASD?  

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I don't know. But it's a private school, they don't give a rat's ass she's ASD.:-(Last year there was a diff principal and she let her teachers handle things differently.That's why we started there. Some people were smarter than me and left the school

when they heard the other administration were leaving.

 

Toni, that's SO MESSED UP!  I think I'd question Gabi more abt the situation bc they're getting awfully defensive - it almost looks like they're putting an investigation on you to distract your attention from something else that happened there.  Does Gabi have an aide?  She said the class got loud bc the teacher left the room.  Why did the teacher leave a room full of kids unattended especially when one of the kids has ASD? 

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Channa, that's really fucked up. I am so sorry. :-(

 

this last investigation i had a worker who maybe wasnt evil but i begged him not to contact my ex..i told him he was abusive and i was scared for my sons safety....he casually told me while that their was a new program called fathers inititive and they wanted to get the fathers invloved.

i couldnt believe my ears....i think he was eating something while he was talking to me...like everything i said meant notheing.....i went thru hell to bring up proof of my abuse i went thru which was bullshit.....then i had to cantact a lot of people to keep this one itty bitty socail worker with the power of F###in God to not destroy my life.

why was he so insensitive to smething as serious as domestic violence? well we could say he was hardened by the job and what he had seen?  i think that is the biggest lie people tell themselves that they are hardened by what they have seen....

i spent my entire life living in abuse...almost died as a kid due to abuse i lived thru....i seen the ungliness in people so many times I truely thought there could not possibly be a God.....so when i hear someone wine about bein hardened by life  i want to scream...becuase its a lie....people can be good despite seeing and goin thru the worst of things and then people can be evil just because they can and becuase they are selfish.

 

To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:01 PMSubject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

 

they are not all bad toni just like not all docters are all bad or anyone for that matter...but the first time i was investigated,,,( when the docters said i was starving my son and was mentally ill because i claimed the milk made him sick.)...i really did have evil socail workers....the first lady in the hospital put me thru hell in fron of my son I had to plead with her for me to find a nurse to watch him so he didnt have to watch me cry...she didnt give a F.     then i had a worker comin to my house three times a week who actually made up stuff about me...and twisted everything she saw....I swear before God this happened and i say this because we like to believe people are not evil but the sad truth is that they are evil people out thier....

and when it comes to a DCF worker who has power ocer your childs life it is down right dangerous....

sometimes you get a decent worker..  i had many experiences with not being that lucky....and so just like everyone else in the world you have good and bad and you cant assume you will have a good and fair socail worker  you have to be prepared for the worst....wish i had known this four years ago when i thought socail workers couldnt lie.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

 

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not " nutritionists " we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-)

So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to " not judge a book by its cover " but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly.

I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the

kitchen. They might write " rotting veggies in jars on counter " LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your " nourishing traditions " cookbook so if they saw ityou could say " i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics " Don't explain it rolling your

eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.

Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher

abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did,

made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instruction

has started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her

out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said " I don't WANT to talk to him,

I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email! " So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are getting

home with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....

Sent from my iPod

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Aside from evil, there seems to be no defense against stupidity. Stupidity endures, because of the lack of humility. If people had humility they would not be afraid of learning. They operate under the illusion that their thoughts can only be right, they know all they need to know, therefore, all others who think differently must be wrong. Arrogance is the opposite of humility. Arrogant and mean/ evil people are very dangerous in positions of power. Only collectively do we stand a chance in reigning in the abuse. It pays to be prudent and even paranoid when dealing with various institutions.ie. education and medicine. The two goods of health and education that we desire for our children often end up being the tail of the snake for us, depending on what resources we have available to us. How I have often had the vision of a special school for ASD kids with parents as stakeholders, and special educators, therapists and DAN medical doctor's and nurses and nutritionist on contract and on site at the institution. This way parents can have the peace of mind they deserve. If I could become a doctor, I would devote my life to them doing this very thing. BettinaSent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT & T Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school) No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groupskids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not "nutritionists" we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to "not judge a book by its cover" but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly. I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the kitchen. They might write "rotting veggies in jars on counter" LOL ~ perhaps in thecabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your "nourishing traditions" cookbook so if they saw ityou could say "i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics" Don't explain it rolling your eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with thekids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think veryappropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said "I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email!"So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....Sent from my iPod--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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I love love love this post! To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity

(added in what happened at school)

Aside from evil, there seems to be no defense against stupidity. Stupidity endures, because of the lack of humility. If people had humility they would not be afraid of learning. They operate under the illusion that their thoughts can only be right, they know all they need to know, therefore, all others who think differently must be wrong. Arrogance is the opposite of humility. Arrogant and mean/ evil people are very dangerous in positions of power. Only collectively do we stand a chance in reigning in the abuse. It pays to be prudent and even paranoid when dealing with various institutions.ie. education and medicine. The two goods of health and education that we desire for our children often end up being the tail of the snake for us, depending on what resources we have available to us. How I have often had the vision of a

special school for ASD kids with parents as stakeholders, and special educators, therapists and DAN medical doctor's and nurses and nutritionist on contract and on site at the institution. This way parents can have the peace of mind they deserve. If I could become a doctor, I would devote my life to them doing this very thing. BettinaSent from my Motorola ATRIXâ„¢ 4G on AT & T Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not "nutritionists" we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to "not judge a book by its cover" but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly. I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the kitchen. They might write "rotting veggies in jars on counter" LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your "nourishing traditions" cookbook so if they saw ityou could say "i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics" Don't explain it rolling your eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said "I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email!"So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....Sent from my iPod

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Bettina,I have considered med school. I would be very old before I got into practice tho. LOLPS I have a cousin named Betina. :-) (One T)

 

Aside from evil, there seems to be no defense against stupidity. Stupidity endures, because of the lack of humility. If people had humility they would not be afraid of learning. They operate under the illusion that their thoughts can only be right, they know all they need to know, therefore, all others who think differently must be wrong. Arrogance is the opposite of humility. Arrogant and mean/ evil people are very dangerous in positions of power. Only collectively do we stand a chance in reigning in the abuse. It pays to be prudent and even paranoid when dealing with various institutions.ie. education and medicine. The two goods of health and education that we desire for our children often end up being the tail of the snake for us, depending on what resources we have available to us. How I have often had the vision of a special school for ASD kids with parents as stakeholders, and special educators, therapists and DAN medical doctor's and nurses and nutritionist on contract and on site at the institution.  This way parents can have the peace of mind they deserve. If I could become a doctor, I would devote my life to them doing this very thing. Bettina

Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT & T Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

 

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not " nutritionists " we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-)

So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to " not judge a book by its cover " but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly.

I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the

kitchen. They might write " rotting veggies in jars on counter " LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your " nourishing traditions " cookbook so if they saw ityou could say " i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics " Don't explain it rolling your

eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.

Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher

abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did,

made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instruction

has started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her

out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said " I don't WANT to talk to him,

I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email! " So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are getting

home with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....

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Me too :-)

 

I love love love this post!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: Re: sound sensitivity

(added in what happened at school)

 

Aside from evil, there seems to be no defense against stupidity. Stupidity endures, because of the lack of humility. If people had humility they would not be afraid of learning. They operate under the illusion that their thoughts can only be right, they know all they need to know, therefore, all others who think differently must be wrong. Arrogance is the opposite of humility. Arrogant and mean/ evil people are very dangerous in positions of power. Only collectively do we stand a chance in reigning in the abuse. It pays to be prudent and even paranoid when dealing with various institutions.ie. education and medicine. The two goods of health and education that we desire for our children often end up being the tail of the snake for us, depending on what resources we have available to us. How I have often had the vision of a

special school for ASD kids with parents as stakeholders, and special educators, therapists and DAN medical doctor's and nurses and nutritionist on contract and on site at the institution.  This way parents can have the peace of mind they deserve. If I could become a doctor, I would devote my life to them doing this very thing. Bettina

Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT & T Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)

 

No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:

Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:

well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groups

kids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not " nutritionists " we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-)

So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to " not judge a book by its cover " but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly.

I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the

kitchen. They might write " rotting veggies in jars on counter " LOL ~ perhaps in the

cabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your " nourishing traditions " cookbook so if they saw ityou could say " i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics " Don't explain it rolling your

eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.

Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher

abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with the

kids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did,

made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instruction

has started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her

out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think very

appropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said " I don't WANT to talk to him,

I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email! " So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are getting

home with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....

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I am 50. I still want to do med school. I think I can make it to 90. It would be the way to spend the last forty. Taking care of these babies to heal their brains. Need to get my teen well first. BettinaSent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT & T Re: Re: sound sensitivity (added in what happened at school)  No, they are not dieticians, but their job training probably has a checklist of things to check.On that list it probably says:Look for signs that the child is well - fed.And then it probably gives them examples of those clues to say:well-stocked pantry/fridge/freezer with all four food groupskids of healthy weightetcI am a licensed childcare provider and although we are not " nutritionists " we have education in nutrition they require us to take.It does not make us experts. But reading the mailing list doesn't make us doctors, right? ;-) So I am just saying that the person that comes to your home is more than likely not EVIL and there must have been some reason they got into that job. These people don't know you so the best thing to do is put on the best appearance right? We might be taught to " not judge a book by its cover " but who doesn't do that, even a little? They are there to judge you, sadly. I am not sure what they would think of a countertop of fermented veggies LOL Does it mean don't do that? NO, but put your fermented veggies in the cabinet so it's not the first thing they see when they walk into the kitchen. They might write " rotting veggies in jars on counter " LOL ~ perhaps in thecabinet you have the fermenting veggies, a copy of your " nourishing traditions " cookbook so if they saw ityou could say " i read this book and trying a recipe in here for natural probiotics " Don't explain it rolling your eyes with attitude, talk to them like they are a person/friend so you don't seem on the defensive (even if internally you are)OK THIS IS SOMETHING I COPIED TO A FRIEND ABT THE OTHER DAYso I won't have to retype it, hope you can follow it.Gabi bit herself up at school on Wed, because teacher left the room for a few mins and the kids got really loud. This was middle of the day by Gabi's acct. No one told me.No nurse note. I picked her up at 3 before reg pickup so I could meet another teacher abt volunteering. Saw the bruises while waiting, but what could I do, I was supposed to meet withthis lady from 3:20 to 3:45. So I went to the meeting with thekids.Afterward, we had to book to winter haven for their therapy / play classes.Got home, baths... took pics of bruises.Morning, running late, gate was abt to close, dropped off Gab, told her run for the gate, she did, made it in on time.Went to office to say I needed to go thru gate to talk to teacher for a moment.It was 8:20 and they told me too bad class has already started. I look incredulousb/c no second bell yet and no announcements, you know darned well no instructionhas started and all I wanted to do was tell the teacher what I had seen and what had happenedand that we needed to set up a meeting, I will email her. One minute tops for this conversation.Also, they would have let me thru the gate to drop Gabi at class had we chosen not to boot her out and make her run.So the office lady says why don't you email her. So I tell her what happened and thatI don't think veryappropriate for email. Then she calls another lady over. And I tell her the same thing.Then they go and say they are getting the principal for me to talk to.I walk out. They say oh just wait he will be a minute. I said " I don't WANT to talk to him,I want to talk to the teacher. I don't like talking to him, he makes me anxious. I will just email! " So I text from my phone to the teacher.Never a response.3:45pm, I am pulling in from picking up Alek and then hitting BK, my parents are gettinghome with Gabi. Up rolls DCF. TO INVESTIGATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  In all respect Toni social workers r not dieticians or work with nutrition and as far as I know(work wth social workers) thier course does not even cover that nor do most doctors soo I would question their rational on any advice or judgement on that topic....Sent from my iPod--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.