Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 When I was diagnosed the beginning of May my A1c was 10.8. Now my fasting is usually between 90 and 105. During the day it rarely goes over 110, and usually is in the same range as fasting, even after eating because I always walk 1/2 hour after meals and that seems to be helping a lot, and also on metformin in the morning. I am worrying because I hear others say they have heart attacks with an A1c of even 8 or 9. So even though my BS has been very stable and running in good ranges and I am exercising, have lowered my BP - today was 120/78, and am eating low carbs also, but not red meats, pork, etc., just chicken, fish and my own organic free range eggs from my own hens, healthy oils,and vegetables, - well I am still worried about dropping dead of a heart attack. I have lost some weight, but am still grossly overweight, need to lose 100 pounds, have already lost 30 in, but on a plateau for the last week. I am worried about dying of a heart attack, even though my BS and BP are running much better ranges now and I am exercising regularly, and eliminated saturated fats, except what might be present in the chicken I eat (I do drain and skim it off). I don't see the doctor until next week, was the soonest I could get in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums having heart attacks with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 > I don't see the doctor until next week, was the soonest I could get > in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums having heart attacks > with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. > > Margaret > Margaret, there are so many other factors in having a heart attack. You are doing the best you can and have done better than most I would say in so short of time. I know if I focused on every aspect of risks I have right now I would not be able to function. I do what I can about what I know to do and what I can control and not worry about the rest. If you would feel better, ask to see a cardiologist or have a treadmill stress test to see what your risks really are. It's hard to know all the details of those who have had heart attacks with better numbers than yours. It is not always about BG numbers but many other things. I think it's pretty normal to be worried when you first hear all of these things. When we are reading and learning about all of this it is pretty much shock factor about the reality of it. But everything is not going to be the same for all of us. Just read about symptoms and signs of heart attacks or strokes and be aware but try not to worry. It's the not knowing that can cause more worry. A1C tests are typically a 3 mo average but generally show the last month or few weeks more accurately. So a person could in fact go along with higher numbers for two months and then in one month go really low and it all looks well. Guess what I want to say is the A1C is not the total picture of risk factors. It could also be they had diabetes for years uncontrolled or other problems you never heard about. Genetics play a big factor. Multiple health problems contribute. Make a list of concerns for your dr and discuss with him. If for peace of mind you want further tests by all means ask for it. In the meantime, don't feel like whatever happens to others will happen to you. If you find out you can do something to lessen your risk then do so otherwise don't worry about something that may or may not happen. It kind of ruins the now time. Positive thoughts and outlook do a lot to lessen risks of heart attacks too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Margaret I take Quercitin as a supplement saw it on the 700 club recommended by a heart dr he had on there. This is the stuff found in the skin of apples. It is also good for allergies. I know I used to get hives everyday of my life especially in this Texas sun and it seems to be helping with that too. Here is one article I found. http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Quercetincs.html Diabetes and heart disease. When I was diagnosed the beginning of May my A1c was 10.8. Now my fasting is usually between 90 and 105. During the day it rarely goes over 110, and usually is in the same range as fasting, even after eating because I always walk 1/2 hour after meals and that seems to be helping a lot, and also on metformin in the morning. I am worrying because I hear others say they have heart attacks with an A1c of even 8 or 9. So even though my BS has been very stable and running in good ranges and I am exercising, have lowered my BP - today was 120/78, and am eating low carbs also, but not red meats, pork, etc., just chicken, fish and my own organic free range eggs from my own hens, healthy oils,and vegetables, - well I am still worried about dropping dead of a heart attack. I have lost some weight, but am still grossly overweight, need to lose 100 pounds, have already lost 30 in, but on a plateau for the last week. I am worried about dying of a heart attack, even though my BS and BP are running much better ranges now and I am exercising regularly, and eliminated saturated fats, except what might be present in the chicken I eat (I do drain and skim it off). I don't see the doctor until next week, was the soonest I could get in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums having heart attacks with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. Margaret Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/ To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to: diabetes-unsubscribe Hope you come back soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 > > When I was diagnosed the beginning of May my A1c was 10.8. Now my > fasting is usually between 90 and 105. During the day it rarely > goes over 110, and usually is in the same range as fasting, even > after eating because I always walk 1/2 hour after meals and that > seems to be helping a lot, and also on metformin in the morning. > > I am worrying because I hear others say they have heart attacks with > an A1c of even 8 or 9. So even though my BS has been very stable > and running in good ranges and I am exercising, have lowered my BP - > today was 120/78, and am eating low carbs also, but not red meats, > pork, etc., just chicken, fish and my own organic free range eggs > from my own hens, healthy oils,and vegetables, - well I am still > worried about dropping dead of a heart attack. I have lost some > weight, but am still grossly overweight, need to lose 100 pounds, > have already lost 30 in, but on a plateau for the last week. > > I am worried about dying of a heart attack, even though my BS and BP > are running much better ranges now and I am exercising regularly, > and eliminated saturated fats, except what might be present in the > chicken I eat (I do drain and skim it off). > > I don't see the doctor until next week, was the soonest I could get > in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums having heart attacks > with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. > > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 > > When I was diagnosed the beginning of May my A1c was 10.8. Now my > fasting is usually between 90 and 105. During the day it rarely > goes over 110, and usually is in the same range as fasting, even > after eating because I always walk 1/2 hour after meals and that > seems to be helping a lot, and also on metformin in the morning. > > I am worrying because I hear others say they have heart attacks with > an A1c of even 8 or 9. So even though my BS has been very stable > and running in good ranges and I am exercising, have lowered my BP - > today was 120/78, and am eating low carbs also, but not red meats, > pork, etc., just chicken, fish and my own organic free range eggs > from my own hens, healthy oils,and vegetables, - well I am still > worried about dropping dead of a heart attack. I have lost some > weight, but am still grossly overweight, need to lose 100 pounds, > have already lost 30 in, but on a plateau for the last week. > Sorry for sending that blank - accidentally hit the send key. Unfortunately, there are no guarantees. Plenty of non-diabetics have heart attacks. All we can do is the best we can. You are doing all the right things. You just need to continue doing them. You don't need to lose the weight over night, so don't obsess about plateauing for a week or so. It happens with any diet. Your diet is good (actually lean pork is fine to eat). You're getting regualr exercise. You should have your lipids checked. I assume your blood pressure is normal or controlled on medication. I assume you don't smoke. Those are all essential. Generally an aspirin a day is recommended. There is good evidence it lowers the incidence of strokes in women, and may lower heart attacks. There is pretty good evidence that taking 2 mg. a day of folic acid can lower the chance of a heart attack. The role of anti- oxidants is unclear. In normal doses, they can't hurt you. An exercise test is reasonable to do. It sometimes can pick up very early significant coronary artery that could potentially be treated with angioplasty. BTW, an A1c of 8 or 9 is still very abnormal. If your blood sugars are running where you say they are, you should be well under 6. Ron http://groups.yahoo.com/group/healthy_recipes_for_diabetic_friends All recipes, no spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 > > Margaret I take Quercitin as a supplement saw it on the 700 club > recommended by a heart dr he had on there. This is the stuff found in the > skin of apples. It is also good for allergies. I know I used to get hives > everyday of my life especially in this Texas sun and it seems to be helping > with that too. Here is one article I found. > http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Quercetincs.html > > Thanks for mentioning that. I forgot about recommending bioflavonoids. The ones available from food - chocolate, red wine, grape juice and a number of other sources - do help reduce heart attacks. I'd be hesitant about relying on individual biofavonoids like quercitin since it hasn't been clearly demonstrated to be effective in humans. The ones in foods are more complex mixtures of compounds. In addition, the alcohol in wine and other beverages taken in small amounts every day also lower the incidence of heart attacks and strokes. Obviously, alcohol shouldn't be drunk to excess or by those with liver disease and some other conditions. Check with your doctor. Ron http://groups.yahoo.com/group/healthy_recipes_for_diabetic_friends all recipes, no spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 I myself had a heart attack eight years ago. The risk factor I am told to watch mainly is cholesterol. Keep the LDL down and the HDL high. That is mainly a matter of avoiding saturated fat and trans fats (such as from the partially hyrodgenated oils that you see listed on packaged foods). Instead consume more monounsaturated fats, which are in olive oil and nuts. But avoiding obesity is important, too. Shively --- margaret redmountainfarm@...> wrote: > When I was diagnosed the beginning of May my A1c was > 10.8. Now my > fasting is usually between 90 and 105. During the > day it rarely > goes over 110, and usually is in the same range as > fasting, even > after eating because I always walk 1/2 hour after > meals and that > seems to be helping a lot, and also on metformin in > the morning. > > I am worrying because I hear others say they have > heart attacks with > an A1c of even 8 or 9. So even though my BS has > been very stable > and running in good ranges and I am exercising, have > lowered my BP - > today was 120/78, and am eating low carbs also, but > not red meats, > pork, etc., just chicken, fish and my own organic > free range eggs > from my own hens, healthy oils,and vegetables, - > well I am still > worried about dropping dead of a heart attack. I > have lost some > weight, but am still grossly overweight, need to > lose 100 pounds, > have already lost 30 in, but on a plateau for the > last week. > > I am worried about dying of a heart attack, even > though my BS and BP > are running much better ranges now and I am > exercising regularly, > and eliminated saturated fats, except what might be > present in the > chicken I eat (I do drain and skim it off). > > I don't see the doctor until next week, was the > soonest I could get > in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums > having heart attacks > with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. > > Margaret > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 > > Margaret I take Quercitin as a supplement saw it on the 700 club > recommended by a heart dr he had on there. This is the stuff found in > the > skin of apples. It is also good for allergies. I know I used to get > hives > everyday of my life especially in this Texas sun and it seems to be > helping > with that too. Here is one article I found. > http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Quercetincs.html I'm always hesitant to take any supplements unless recommended by my physician. Many times they are a waste of money (for years, mega doses of Vitamin C was recommended to fight colds, but the truth is that excess amounts are passed through the urine and never used by the body), or they are later questioned about their safety (Omega 3 fatty acids were promoted as a prevention to some cancers, but this year the claim is that they aren't really effective and there is some concern in balancing them with Omega 6 fatty acids). By all means, if you take them and you feel they benefit you, keep right on doing it. My own personal opinion is that there is a significant benefit. I'll stick with my 'once daily' multi-vitiman (I get a store brand) and I'm not even convinced that they really do much, but my healthcare team did recommend that I do this. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 In a message dated 6/2/2006 12:11:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, redmountainfarm@... writes: I don't see the doctor until next week, was the soonest I could get in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums having heart attacks with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. Hi Margaret, I had very aggressive breast cancer 11 years ago. My oncologist wasn't sure I would survive and here I am today very healthy. I could worry about it coming back but I don't. My attitude is that God healed me of cancer and He doesn't do anything half way. There are lots of people that don't have diabetes, but they have heart attacks. I know people that have had diabetes for many years and they are still healthy. Anyone could get in their car tomorrow and drive down the street and get hit by someone else. We do the best we can and hope that we stay healthy. Worrying will only make things worse. hugs Eunice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Well this was recommend by a heart dr. sharon Re: Diabetes and heart disease. > > Margaret I take Quercitin as a supplement saw it on the 700 club > recommended by a heart dr he had on there. This is the stuff found in the > skin of apples. It is also good for allergies. I know I used to get hives > everyday of my life especially in this Texas sun and it seems to be helping > with that too. Here is one article I found. > http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Quercetincs.html > > Thanks for mentioning that. I forgot about recommending bioflavonoids. The ones available from food - chocolate, red wine, grape juice and a number of other sources - do help reduce heart attacks. I'd be hesitant about relying on individual biofavonoids like quercitin since it hasn't been clearly demonstrated to be effective in humans. The ones in foods are more complex mixtures of compounds. In addition, the alcohol in wine and other beverages taken in small amounts every day also lower the incidence of heart attacks and strokes. Obviously, alcohol shouldn't be drunk to excess or by those with liver disease and some other conditions. Check with your doctor. Ron http://groups.yahoo.com/group/healthy_recipes_for_diabetic_friends all recipes, no spam. Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/ To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to: diabetes-unsubscribe Hope you come back soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 - > In addition, the alcohol in wine and other beverages taken in small > amounts every day also lower the incidence of heart attacks and > strokes. Obviously, alcohol shouldn't be drunk to excess or by > those with liver disease and some other conditions. Check with your > doctor. > > Ron It also should not be consumed with most of these meds that diabetics are taking. Right on the labels there are warnings against it. How does one work around that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 > > Well this was recommend by a heart dr. > > sharon > Sharon, I know who you are referring to on that particular show and I would trust what they say and trust your own judgment. Not everyone is into the same type of health interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I dun' know here. I have high and low blood sugar. It has always seemed that having a little wine every day made me feel sick. Though I think, generally, it also temporarily lowers the blood sugar... Janie > > - > > In addition, the alcohol in wine and other beverages taken in small > > amounts every day also lower the incidence of heart attacks and > > strokes. Obviously, alcohol shouldn't be drunk to excess or by > > those with liver disease and some other conditions. Check with your > > doctor. > > > > Ron > > > It also should not be consumed with most of these meds that diabetics > are taking. Right on the labels there are warnings against it. How > does one work around that? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 > > - > > In addition, the alcohol in wine and other beverages taken in small > > amounts every day also lower the incidence of heart attacks and > > strokes. Obviously, alcohol shouldn't be drunk to excess or by > > those with liver disease and some other conditions. Check with your > > doctor. > > > > Ron > > > It also should not be consumed with most of these meds that diabetics > are taking. Right on the labels there are warnings against it. How > does one work around that? > Small amounts of alcohol (1-2 drinks a day) have minimal effect on blood sugar. While warning labels are important, they are often more driven by liability concerns than medical reality. Since alcohol in large quantity can cause hypoglycemia, and if taken in large quantity over a long period or massive quantity over a shorter tiem can cause liver damage, they will stick a label warning not to take with alcohol on any medication that lowers blood sugar or has potential liver toxicity. Check with your doctor. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 > > While warning labels are important, they are often more driven by > liability concerns than medical reality. aha.....that's kind of what I thought.....thanks Ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi Margaret, You are doing everything you can to keep your heart healthy. In my case, heart disease runs in both sides of my family. There are some things you cant prevent. Do what you can and try to cut out the worrying. Good luck and good health! -Sunny --- margaret redmountainfarm@...> wrote: > When I was diagnosed the beginning of May my A1c was > 10.8. Now my > fasting is usually between 90 and 105. During the > day it rarely > goes over 110, and usually is in the same range as > fasting, even > after eating because I always walk 1/2 hour after > meals and that > seems to be helping a lot, and also on metformin in > the morning. > > I am worrying because I hear others say they have > heart attacks with > an A1c of even 8 or 9. So even though my BS has > been very stable > and running in good ranges and I am exercising, have > lowered my BP - > today was 120/78, and am eating low carbs also, but > not red meats, > pork, etc., just chicken, fish and my own organic > free range eggs > from my own hens, healthy oils,and vegetables, - > well I am still > worried about dropping dead of a heart attack. I > have lost some > weight, but am still grossly overweight, need to > lose 100 pounds, > have already lost 30 in, but on a plateau for the > last week. > > I am worried about dying of a heart attack, even > though my BS and BP > are running much better ranges now and I am > exercising regularly, > and eliminated saturated fats, except what might be > present in the > chicken I eat (I do drain and skim it off). > > I don't see the doctor until next week, was the > soonest I could get > in, but I hear so many on these diabetic forums > having heart attacks > with an A1c lower than mine was, so I am worried. > > Margaret > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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