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One of my latest theories is that BPD is actually Sensory Processing Disorder,

which is not yet in the DSM but is currently being studied because so many

autistic kids have it. Basically, this neorological disorder manifests as either

your senses are undersensitive (meaning you need more touch than normal to feel

it, for example) or oversensitive (loud noises are excruciatingly painful, can't

stand tags in clothing, cigarette smoke makes you need to run away). If our

senses are oversensitive, they will feel overloaded and therefore assaulted and

will act out. To compensate, we become very controlling over our environment.

If you think your nada is like thus, I highly recommend reading up on this. The

literature I've read pertains to kids, but it's very possible that our nadas

have this and have not developed the correct coping mechanisms, which means they

lash out emotionally. What helps this disorder is occupational therapy and

social skills groups. Because it's neurological, talk therapy can teach us and

our nadas to recognize the symptoms and to head it off before the assault.

Occupational therapists know so many tricks. For example, if you can't avoid

going to loud places if your nada is oversensitive to noise, offer her noise

canceling headphones. Encourage your nada to chew gum if she's undersensitive to

touch. Keep soothing her with something that relaxes her, like fidget toys (pens

to chew on, squeeze balls) or get a fish tank.

> Hi,

>

> One of the books that has helped me the most, is Evil Genes, by Barbara

> Oakley. Fantastic book!

> Best of luck, Sunspot

>

>

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>

>> I had the same experience my nada wanted(s) me to keep to a perfect little

>> (tiny) range of emotions. she constantly berated me for " overreacting "

>> whenever I responded to anything. she still sees me as incapable of real

>> emotions because she sees me as so irrational.

>> I think children are invalidating by nature I have 3. but I was carefully

>> trained to be an expert doormat. I used to feel like I was in trouble 24/7.

>> now I know she just wants control too bad for her I have a personality.

>>

>>

>>>>

>>>>> **

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Hello everyone,

>>>>> I'm a new member, and my therapist recently recommended that I read

>>>>> Understanding the Borderline Mother. I stayed up all night reading

>> and I

>>>>> cannot believe how accurate it is. I felt like I was reading my own

>> diary.

>>>>> It was insane how much truth was packed into one book. I couldn't

>> believe

>>>>> what I was reading. I had no idea anyone else could have experienced

>> what I

>>>>> went through, because it seems that no one wants to talk about it.

>> Everyone

>>>>> around me wants to pretend like the abusive relationship I survived

>> with my

>>>>> stepmother was OK. Almost normal, even. I've felt so worthless for

>> so long,

>>>>> and I have so much more pain to work through, but I feel like this

>> book has

>>>>> given me some hope. I'm not sure what the next step for me is. I will

>>>>> probably read Stop Walking on Eggshells once I can get a copy from

>> the

>>>>> library. Any other book recommendations?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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My husband has sensory integration disorder (the old name, aka, Sensory

Processing Disorder.) He's not autistic, but he is more intelligent than

the average bear--was a gifted student and started college just before he

turned 14. (Just sharing all this as a background).

And while I understand where you're coming from with BPD being similar to

SPD, I respectfully disagree. My husband is under/oversensitive with

different things, and it is wholly different from BPD, judging from my

experience and reading others' stories. While DH does control his

environment, he controls only the part that directly affects him, and he

knows he can't control other people. If something bothers him, he will

speak up, and discuss it with others, so he and others can work out a

solution. It's actually a physical sort of disorder with direct and

understandable effects.

BPD on the other hand, as we know, is a personality disorder. It is true

that BPD people have difficulty integrating their emotions, and

understanding the cause-effect of their actions and others' emotions.

Because of this, they start being controlling and manipulative of other

people and their environment, to make them feel better, but then they

continue to feel like crap and start blaming others for not walking on

eggshells in their " controlled " environment. And instead of talking it out

normally, they tend to overreact and either lash out or retreat from the

world, as a way of " conditioning " others, charging them with the task of

making the BPD person better.

So, when DH has a problem with an irritating environment, it's a logical

problem. Tags=irritating=buy tagless clothes. He talks it out and takes it

on himself to soothe his own environment, and responds in a measured way.

My fada on the other hand, when he as a problem with an irritating

environment, it is an illogical problem which lies entirely in his own

emotions and perceptions thereof. My daughter isn't talkative=she hates

me=disown her. He responded in an overreaction way, because it didn't occur

to him that I might be busy with full time undergrad and two part time

jobs, working 35+ hrs a week, and balancing friends, a bf, and my FOO, and

might not have time to talk to them all the time.

I can see SPD and BPD as a weak analogy, but certainly not anywhere to be

the same thing.

> **

>

>

> One of my latest theories is that BPD is actually Sensory Processing

> Disorder, which is not yet in the DSM but is currently being studied

> because so many autistic kids have it. Basically, this neorological

> disorder manifests as either your senses are undersensitive (meaning you

> need more touch than normal to feel it, for example) or oversensitive (loud

> noises are excruciatingly painful, can't stand tags in clothing, cigarette

> smoke makes you need to run away). If our senses are oversensitive, they

> will feel overloaded and therefore assaulted and will act out. To

> compensate, we become very controlling over our environment.

>

> If you think your nada is like thus, I highly recommend reading up on

> this. The literature I've read pertains to kids, but it's very possible

> that our nadas have this and have not developed the correct coping

> mechanisms, which means they lash out emotionally. What helps this disorder

> is occupational therapy and social skills groups. Because it's

> neurological, talk therapy can teach us and our nadas to recognize the

> symptoms and to head it off before the assault.

>

> Occupational therapists know so many tricks. For example, if you can't

> avoid going to loud places if your nada is oversensitive to noise, offer

> her noise canceling headphones. Encourage your nada to chew gum if she's

> undersensitive to touch. Keep soothing her with something that relaxes her,

> like fidget toys (pens to chew on, squeeze balls) or get a fish tank.

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > One of the books that has helped me the most, is Evil Genes, by Barbara

> > Oakley. Fantastic book!

> > Best of luck, Sunspot

> >

> >

> >

> >> **

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I had the same experience my nada wanted(s) me to keep to a perfect

> little

> >> (tiny) range of emotions. she constantly berated me for " overreacting "

> >> whenever I responded to anything. she still sees me as incapable of real

> >> emotions because she sees me as so irrational.

> >> I think children are invalidating by nature I have 3. but I was

> carefully

> >> trained to be an expert doormat. I used to feel like I was in trouble

> 24/7.

> >> now I know she just wants control too bad for her I have a personality.

> >>

> >>

> >>>>

> >>>>> **

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Hello everyone,

> >>>>> I'm a new member, and my therapist recently recommended that I read

> >>>>> Understanding the Borderline Mother. I stayed up all night reading

> >> and I

> >>>>> cannot believe how accurate it is. I felt like I was reading my own

> >> diary.

> >>>>> It was insane how much truth was packed into one book. I couldn't

> >> believe

> >>>>> what I was reading. I had no idea anyone else could have experienced

> >> what I

> >>>>> went through, because it seems that no one wants to talk about it.

> >> Everyone

> >>>>> around me wants to pretend like the abusive relationship I survived

> >> with my

> >>>>> stepmother was OK. Almost normal, even. I've felt so worthless for

> >> so long,

> >>>>> and I have so much more pain to work through, but I feel like this

> >> book has

> >>>>> given me some hope. I'm not sure what the next step for me is. I will

> >>>>> probably read Stop Walking on Eggshells once I can get a copy from

> >> the

> >>>>> library. Any other book recommendations?

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

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I don't see anything to make me think they're the same thing,

but I can easily see how having Sensory Processing Disorder

along with BPD could really aggravate BPD. I don't think that

people with BPD are at all good at learning coping mechanisms of

any sort, for other health issues, for work or social

situations, or for anything else that doesn't go the way they

want.

At 02:48 AM 12/08/2011 Bpd wrote:

>One of my latest theories is that BPD is actually Sensory

>Processing Disorder, which is not yet in the DSM but is

>currently being studied because so many autistic kids have it.

>Basically, this neorological disorder manifests as either your

>senses are undersensitive (meaning you need more touch than

>normal to feel it, for example) or oversensitive (loud noises

>are excruciatingly painful, can't stand tags in clothing,

>cigarette smoke makes you need to run away). If our senses are

>oversensitive, they will feel overloaded and therefore

>assaulted and will act out. To compensate, we become very

>controlling over our environment.

>

>If you think your nada is like thus, I highly recommend reading

>up on this. The literature I've read pertains to kids, but it's

>very possible that our nadas have this and have not developed

>the correct coping mechanisms, which means they lash out

>emotionally. What helps this disorder is occupational therapy

>and social skills groups. Because it's neurological, talk

>therapy can teach us and our nadas to recognize the symptoms

>and to head it off before the assault.

>

>Occupational therapists know so many tricks. For example, if

>you can't avoid going to loud places if your nada is

>oversensitive to noise, offer her noise canceling headphones.

>Encourage your nada to chew gum if she's undersensitive to

>touch. Keep soothing her with something that relaxes her, like

>fidget toys (pens to chew on, squeeze balls) or get a fish tank.

>

>

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Katrina

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