Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 From one of the ACEP lists, forwarded by permission, and with a request for other lessons learned to be passed back to Miami FD ck S. Krin, DO FAAFP <block quote> Please Note: " Reply " goes to the individual who sent the post. -------------------------------------------- I fully agree that waveform capnography is tremendously helpful in managing intubations and belongs on the EMS trucks, but we want to make everyone aware of a simple glitch we found in our EMS use, one that’s not likely to be seen in OR/ICU/ED (where patient and device don’t move). A loosely connected sensor/filterline may show a solid straight black line, but may NOT be sensing the patient’s CO2. If the waveform line is perfectly straight (horizontal), this is overwhelmingly likely to be a poor sensor connection, NOT a misplaced tube or problem with the patient. I presented this at the Eagles “EMS State of the Science†course in Dallas. Several other EMS Medical Directors with same device (LP12) had seen the same “solid straight flat black line at zero†but most didn’t realize the cause (I think it was just Jui, MD, who caught it too)—and we all were previously taught that this type of tracing meant that ETT was misplaced (or patient truly DEAD). Please check your capnography system for same concern, and let EMS personnel know so that they can recognize and troubleshoot. If user doesn’t recognize that the sensor is simply loose (machine does NOT give any indicator warning), the user may respond by removing/replacing a correctly placed tube, or terminate resuscitation efforts because it looks like ETCO2 is zero. More info: We implemented waveform capnography in City of Miami Fire Rescue using the LP 12 with Oridion Microstream module. The sensor/filterline screws into the monitor “until finger tight†but does not lock into place. As the line is screwed in, the tracing on the screen goes from a dashed line (unconnected) to a solid black line (supposedly connected). Although we usually get great CO2 waveform tracings, we found many code summaries with snapshot strips showing a solid, perfectly straight flat black line at zero. At first, we reviewed these with other EM and EMS physicians, anesthesiologists, and company personnel—most of whom said “misplaced tube, should have been pulled. †Good paramedics were adamant that the tube was well placed, though, and then we had runs where the tracing went from solid flat line at zero to good waveform (or vice versa) with no intervention done—then saw a couple patients resuscitated while the CO2 line was still flat at zero, and then runs where the LP 12 showed zero but a colorimetric or bar graph ETCO2 device showed great readings. And what true biological reading is ever absolutely flat?? Turns out that as the filterline is being screwed in, tracing goes from dashed line to solid, but if not 100% connected, the solid line stays straight at zero (is NOT sensing patient’s CO2). Screw the sensor in a hair more, and tiny waveform appears (very low plateau). Screw it in the rest of the way and the waveform reaches its full, real height. Actual ETCO2 # shone on device may or may not be of help. During cardiac arrest (e.g., post defib or if moving patient), it’s easy for the filterline to unscrew a little bit, and tracing changes to flat line—as a paramedic from another system pointed out, the sensor line comes coiled in a package, and coil effect in the plastic makes it twist outward. Please go to the link below for slides showing this. Troubleshooting tips for LP12 ETCO2 use with intubations: * Hand-straighten the tubing before it is connected to patient or monitor (takes out coils) * Be sure to tighten fully when first connecting the CO2 sensor line to the LP * When fully tight, the “wings†on the connector should be perfectly horizontal (confirmed by PhysioControl engineer) * If a solid but straight black line at zero appears (no waveform), immediately tighten the connection and recheck waveform tracing and the numerical ETCO2 reading * If line is still straight, recheck patient and tube immediately— reconfirm tube placement carefully by all clinical means, including looking again with laryngoscope to see tube going thru cords; recheck that good CPR is being done. If tube is confirmed by other means, use it and DOCUMENT well. If any doubt remains, then replace tube. Also, if a solid straight flat black line at any higher number suddenly appears on the tracing, try checking connection and then replace with new sensor, but this is most likely due to the pump (inside device) shutting off because liquid entered the device (not yet confirmed by Physio). Device does not tell user if pump shuts off, but when pump shuts off the screen tracing just stays up at whatever height it was just at, and shows a solid straight line (confirmed by Physio). It might stay that way until drying out hours later, or being serviced. Am happy to answer any questions. And I’ve apologized to my paramedics wrongly told by me that they misplaced an ETT!! Kathy Schrank, MD, FACEP EMS Medical Director, City of Miami Fire Rescue UM/JMH Emergency Medicine kschrank@... _http://www.acep.org/workarea/downloadasset.aspx?id=38120_ (http://www.acep.org/workarea/downloadasset.aspx?id=38120) </block quote> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? 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