Texas Medical Lifeline

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> Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did. Thanks

> for your time.

Lawson

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Dacid:

I ran into this kind of Problem with a company called Prime Care in Houston.I

lost a lot of money in salary,one whole month. I went to what we call in Texas

a Pay .Day Law Commission and got a paltry sum of my money back. There are no

lawyers in Texas with a pair of huevos in this state or a governor who will

help get the salary a medic is rightfully due or even worse condones it and

allows them to operate another ambulance company in the same city. I hope your

girl friend does better than I did. I think medics in this state need to raise a

howl with our current governor to put a stop to this situation Regards,rabbiems

budlitemedic81 wrote:

> Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did. Thanks

> for your time.

Lawson

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Texas Medical Lifeline has the contract with Texas Motor Speedway and

NASCAR to provide ambulances and personnel for the NASCAR and IRL

events at Texas Motor Speedway in Fort Worth. My 2 sons and I have

worked for this company during the races since November of last year.

We were told that we would get paid within a few weeks and we were. We

were told that we would get paid once the company got paid from TMS or

NASCAR (Not sure who pays the ambulance company). We were paid as we

were told and we will be back to the IRL races in June. That has been

my only experience with Texas Medical Lifeline. However, they were easy

to work for and had very friendly people. I look forward to continuing

working the races for this company.

Rusty Powers

EMS Director

Olton EMS

>

> > Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> > isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> > about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> > company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> > tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> > that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> > let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did.

Thanks

> > for your time.

>

>

> Lawson

>

[Guest guest]

>

> > Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> > isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> > about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> > company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> > tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> > that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> > let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did.

Thanks

> > for your time.

>

>

> Lawson

>

We had done a Prision Break event with this company and the equuipment

was substandard and we never recieved any pay for this event. She kept

saying she would meet us and bring a check and never showed up. This

was back in October now she makes no attempt to get us paid. She can

purchase used ambulances but cant compansate the personnel for staffing

these events. I know where her priorities are. I have heard from other

employees that they have had to run all over town trying to get paid. I

would recommend talking to other employees there before wasting your

time. She tries to place the blame on TMS but she knows in advance the

schedule and should budget the payroll to compensate the personnel

while she waits on the payment from TMS. I wish you the best and hope

you recieve the compensation you deserve.

Thanks,

Mel

[Guest guest]

I worked for TML out at TMS several days and was paid for all of the time that I

worked for them out there, as was others that worked during that time. She

needs to contact them back if she wants her one day pay.

Wayne

Subject: Texas Medical Lifeline

To: texasems-l

Date: Monday, May 12, 2008, 9:47 PM

> Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did. Thanks

> for your time.

Lawson

[Guest guest]

It forever amazes me that people keep going to work for these companies

expecting something to be different than it was with the last lowlife they

worked for....... repeating mistakes yet expecting different results. That sound

sane to you?

Consider this. Places like the race track don't hire the best. They don't

necessarily hire the adequate. They hire the lowest bidder. As long as medics

are willing to work for lowlifes there will be plenty of competition for low

bid.

Look at the track's last choice. That company is shut down by the feds and the

owners are going to prison for Medicare fraud. Sound like a high quality

operation to you? How many of you guys were out on the streets looking for work

after that one? Yet obviously some are still willing to do the same thing with

another company and risk the same outcome.

How long will it take before the medics on the street realize these fly by

nights should be avoided? You get what you pay for.

Larry

>

> > Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> > isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> > about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> > company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> > tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> > that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> > let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did. Thanks

> > for your time.

>

>

> Lawson

>

[Guest guest]

Larry,

I have to add something to your post. I have worked for both of the providers

that have been out at TMS, and had little problems with either. Know one

forseen the closure of Greater Dallas when they started out at TMS. It was not

until the feds raided everyone, including Greater Dallas EMS, and Medicare

payments were being withheld from Greater Dallas that they finally went under.

I have worked with the owner of Texas Medical Lifeline before she ever started

this service at another place. I have nothing against her and have talked with

her about TML. She just wantes to make an honest living doing events and not

have to worry about the feds. It's not the medics fault that this service

failed

Unless you know something that I don't, I've not heard where they Greater Dallas

case or anyothers have gone to court, the only one I know of is the Doctor's

Ambulance case and yes, he is doing 8 yrs federal time.

In talking with someone that has done the TMS contract before, NASCAR I'm told

has a 45 day turn around on getting the provider paid, not sure what the time is

on the actual track.

Until you work for TML don't be so quick to judge and think that they are like

the rest of the fly-by-night services popping up.

Wayne

It forever amazes me that people keep going to work for these companies

expecting something to be different than it was with the last lowlife they

worked for....... repeating mistakes yet expecting different results. That sound

sane to you?

Consider this. Places like the race track don't hire the best. They don't

necessarily hire the adequate. They hire the lowest bidder. As long as medics

are willing to work for lowlifes there will be plenty of competition for low

bid.

Look at the track's last choice. That company is shut down by the feds and the

owners are going to prison for Medicare fraud. Sound like a high quality

operation to you? How many of you guys were out on the streets looking for work

after that one? Yet obviously some are still willing to do the same thing with

another company and risk the same outcome.

How long will it take before the medics on the street realize these fly by

nights should be avoided? You get what you pay for.

Larry

>

> > Has anyone worked for this company before ??? My impression of them

> > isn't very good at this time. My girlfriend worked for them one day

> > about a month and a half ago. She still has yet to be paid by the

> > company. All we are getting is " it's in the mail " or " I'll mail it

> > tomorrow. " As far as I'm concerned they are another shady company

> > that is money hungry. If anyone has had the same problem with them

> > let me know how you finally go your money or if you even did. Thanks

> > for your time.

>

>

> Lawson

>

[Guest guest]

Honestly, I really don't have a duck in this race so what I have to say is

merely observational. I beg forgiveness from the list admins if I'm being out of

line.

Dear Wayne D. Let me take your reply a point at a time.

> Know one forseen the closure of Greater Dallas

I’m sorry, but what exactly are you trying to say?

> I have worked for both of the providers

Please forgive me if I don’t consider that much of an endorsement.

> It was not until the feds raided everyone

Memory tells me it was 16 or 17 companies out of the 50 or 100 in north Texas.

Certainly not everyone.

> She just wantes to make an honest living

> doing events and not have to worry about

> the feds.

I have no reason to doubt this, but good intentions do not always translate to

good business. In this case it appears the owner is living from paycheck to

paycheck, while expecting her employees to carry the load for her when there is

more month than money. In other words, it seems her eyes are bigger than her

ability.

> It's not the medics fault that

> this service failed

You’ve kind of missed my point. I don't blame the EMTs for business failures,

I blame them for the easy existence of such businesses. Lowlife EMS companies

depend on the eagerness and ignorance of the worldly inexperienced EMT

workforce. As long as there is a ready supply of EMTs willing to work for low

wages, these companies stay afloat. When something happens, like the feds

knocking on the door, or the race track not paying the bill soon enough, do you

think the owner is going to skip paying the mortgage on her home to make a

timely payroll? When her business finally fails, do you think she will consider

the EMTs first? Sorry, but I'm cynical.

> In talking with someone that has

> done the TMS contract before, NASCAR

> I'm told has a 45 day turn around

I don’t know why this matters. Does General Motors wait until a car is sold

before the autoworkers get paid? Why does the owner not have sufficient funds to

make timely payroll? Why does she think she has the right to have a business

without fully secured funding sufficient to guarantee timely payroll? That is

simply a bad business plan. Whether unscrupulous or simply clueless, this is the

description of a lowlife EMS company.

> Until you work for TML don't be so

> quick to judge

Lame statement. One need not touch a stove more than once to recognize the

signs of danger. When employees resort to posting messages on internet forums

seeking aid in getting paid it is pretty apparent something is rotten in

Denmark.

Oh, and it seems I remember you making such posts on at least a few occasions,

so you should know what I’m talking about.

Larry

[Guest guest]

You guys are dipping into the cool-aid and you dont even know the

flavor!!!

....AS both a long time employee at the previous TMS EMS provider

(greater Dallas EMS)and a current PRN employee at TML, i saw many very

capable EMT's and PARAMEDICS that could provide stellar performance

during any kind of event, espesially during race weekend!!!

....and as a side story, the reason greater dallas EMS Failed was a

combination of managment, operation : FREE-RIDE ( google it; you'll see)

and a third party billing service.

BUT IN RESPONSE TO THE COMPANY IN QUESTION--- Texas Medical Lifeline

has always treated me with the upmost respect, paid me on time, and has

always made sure i was ok- just the other day, i was brought lunch AND

DINNER, on my last shift. DID i MENTION THAT it was PAID FOR OUT OF

POCKET? Greater Dallas never brought us anything or made sure we were

ok...

TML (Texas Medical Lifeline) has always been up front with me as far

as payment goes... when they first started she was very upfront with

every1 as far as the payment schedule issues_being a new company and

all, it is very hard to get a buisness going and provide payrole and

equipment in the same month!

AS for the medics who currently work at TML, they are not your

average " transfer service medics " .... The employees have a diverse

background of EMS experience: Every medic has had at least a few years

experience as a medic in a high-call-volume system, we have dual

certified medics that are also firefighters, not to some with a few

years experience at the track itself!!!

Any past employee of TML who have negitive feelings toward TML have

complaints that are only 1-sided: no one mentions the fact they no-

called no-showed, when behind the companies back to get a better

contract, or do not answer phone calls when they are needed to work...

..AND HOW DARE YOU COMPARE GM to THIS COMPANY!!! when gm vehilcles

sell for 50k used, then it would be valid. GM is a failing company that

is using its sell of stock to slow the ineviable failure of closing its

doors-----

AS for TML, they started with 1 ambulance.... 9 months later, they

now have 4, 3 are paid for. what other small buisness do you know that

has quadrupled there fleet in under a year?

[Guest guest]

Yes Larry you are correct, I have make many of the same statements about other

issues or services, just as you have without having the " full story " or yes, I'm

guilty of that also.

But, on this issue I have first hand knowledge, know the owner, have worked with

her before she started TML, and have worked for her now that she has started TML

because I like working at TMS.

I will agree that there are many " shady " providers out there that tell

inexperienced EMT's and paramedics how to run and write calls so that they get

paid for them. Those are the ones that the feds look at. The experienced ones

should know better...I said should.

Poor management and poor business decision are the down fall of many provider,

or they get greedy like the Doctor's Ambulance, Royal, Care Plus and other shut

down by the AG, IRS and other state and federal agencies.

I do have to agree with the post by Lonnie Lee, the people working for TML are

NOT " inexperienced transport medics or EMTs " . They are experienced people who

work full time as EMTs, paramedics or fire fighters with either a

private/public/fire based 911 service. NASCAR want allow just anyone to work on

the track. Spectator care maybe different, but the ones that I have worked with

either with Greater Dallas or TML have all been very professional and again work

other " real " EMS or fire jobs.

Yes, any provider or employer should make sure that there people are paid. You

talk about GM, how many got paid when GM shut down in Arlington for those

several weeks? None. What did those people do, GM did not have the money to

pay them while they were off. I've worked for places in the past where you

wondered if you were going to get paid, or if the check was going to be good.

One place, non-EMS we had to wait a week after payday until they got their money

in...needless to say, I didn't stay long at that place.

Yes, people get on here and vent about bad EMS providers, as I said, guilty. We

all know that there are good and bad ones out there, but we all have to work

together. If people are not getting paid, then those people should continue to

contact the provider, send certified letters, call TWC or US DOL Wage and Hour

and file complaints, as they may eventually get their money. We all want to get

paid for the work that we do whether that be EMS or not. Again, I can say that

TML has paid me for the time that I worked and it was on time.

Wayne Dennis, EMTP

Subject: Re: Texas Medical Lifeline

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, May 16, 2008, 11:01 AM

Honestly, I really don't have a duck in this race so what I have to say is

merely observational. I beg forgiveness from the list admins if I'm being out of

line.

Dear Wayne D. Let me take your reply a point at a time.

> Know one forseen the closure of Greater Dallas

I’m sorry, but what exactly are you trying to say?

> I have worked for both of the providers

Please forgive me if I don’t consider that much of an endorsement.

> It was not until the feds raided everyone

Memory tells me it was 16 or 17 companies out of the 50 or 100 in north Texas.

Certainly not everyone.

> She just wantes to make an honest living

> doing events and not have to worry about

> the feds.

I have no reason to doubt this, but good intentions do not always translate to

good business. In this case it appears the owner is living from paycheck to

paycheck, while expecting her employees to carry the load for her when there is

more month than money. In other words, it seems her eyes are bigger than her

ability.

> It's not the medics fault that

> this service failed

You’ve kind of missed my point. I don't blame the EMTs for business failures,

I blame them for the easy existence of such businesses. Lowlife EMS companies

depend on the eagerness and ignorance of the worldly inexperienced EMT

workforce. As long as there is a ready supply of EMTs willing to work for low

wages, these companies stay afloat. When something happens, like the feds

knocking on the door, or the race track not paying the bill soon enough, do you

think the owner is going to skip paying the mortgage on her home to make a

timely payroll? When her business finally fails, do you think she will consider

the EMTs first? Sorry, but I'm cynical.

> In talking with someone that has

> done the TMS contract before, NASCAR

> I'm told has a 45 day turn around

I don’t know why this matters. Does General Motors wait until a car is sold

before the autoworkers get paid? Why does the owner not have sufficient funds to

make timely payroll? Why does she think she has the right to have a business

without fully secured funding sufficient to guarantee timely payroll? That is

simply a bad business plan. Whether unscrupulous or simply clueless, this is the

description of a lowlife EMS company.

> Until you work for TML don't be so

> quick to judge

Lame statement. One need not touch a stove more than once to recognize the signs

of danger. When employees resort to posting messages on internet forums seeking

aid in getting paid it is pretty apparent something is rotten in Denmark.

Oh, and it seems I remember you making such posts on at least a few occasions,

so you should know what I’m talking about.

Larry

[Guest guest]

My comments in line:

> Yes Larry you are correct, I have make many

> of the same statements about other issues or

> services

Without being too rude, that was my point. Your history shows that you first

defend, the later condemn the various services for whom you have worked.

However, that isn’t the greater point I was attempting.

> I have first hand knowledge, know the owner,

> have worked with her before she started TML

Again, irrelevant to my point, and not much of a reference.

> there are many " shady " providers out there

This is more to my point. Indeed there are plenty of lowlife ambulance

services, however not all of these has the single goal of ripping off Medicare.

Some are simply pie in the sky former EMTs who want to be in the business,

regardless of the lack of business experience or financing.

> Poor management and poor business decision

> are the down fall of many provider

Good. We finally agree on something. Now, how many of these failed providers

of the past have shut the doors owing employers and suppliers? My whole point is

that this provider has the same markings of all those who previously failed, yet

we keep taking jobs with them, perpetuating this really bad image of our

profession.

> Yes, any provider or employer should make sure

> that there people are paid.

Which is something this provider is apparently very good at. From the off-list

messages I’ve received it appears that those who choose to terminate employment

do not enjoy the benefit of promptly paid wages. I’ve heard from one who quit

because she never got paid, two with bouncing checks yet to be collected, and

six who quit and have yet to get a final check. I heard from one fire fighter

who said she had to hound the owner for weeks to get a final paycheck.

I was also told that this provider got a contract at a horse race track, but

lost it due to inability to make payroll or buy supplies.

> how many got paid when GM shut down

This one seems to have flown right over your head. The GM workers on layoff

weren't working, so didn't have money owed to them. They got paid for the work

already performed and the checks didn't bounce. The company you seek to defend

received the benefit of the employee’s work, and then failed to pay wages due.

> I can say that TML has paid me for the time that I worked and it was on

time.

Good for you, Mr. Lee and any others who have managed to be in such good

graces. Others seem not to have been so fortunate.

Since you've done such a good job helping me prove my points, I see little use

in continuing this debate. I'm much more comfortable lurking and shall resume

that status now.

Good day,

Larry