Guest guest Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 I am pretty new here and I am curious as to how your nada responded when you told her you thought she had BPD (for those of you that took this step). Did she deny it or did she see how it may be the case? If she denied it, what has your relationship been like since then? The reason I ask is because I shared my BPD suspicions with my nada about a month ago and then told her I wanted a year long stretch of no contact in order to find my own true self away from her. Now I am a bit wondering what to expect from her if and when I decide to resume things. Thanks for your help, Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Hi, I had done my research on BPD and didn't think it was a good idea to confront nada in person. We live near a medical school-associated BPD clinic with a nationally recognized expert. My brother and I, having gone absolutely NUTS with nada's behavior over the past few months, decided to make an appointment for ourselves in order to receive some guidance as to what to do. Unfortunately, it costs $256.00 for a one hour appointment. I had just gotten married and had NO money, and he had just gotten married and had NO money, so we had to wait. In the meantime, somebody in the family apparently let it out, and the message came back to me through my grandmother that nada knew *nothing* was wrong with *her* and *she* wasn't going to any therapy. That pretty much summed it all up as hopeless for me. I have been no contact since. I hope you have better luck. What did your nada say when you told her? --. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 In general , the responses fall into 2 areas, depending on what Nada needs at the moment. 1. There is nothing wrong with me, You are the ( crazy, mean, heartless, ungrateful ) one. 2. See, there IS something wrong with me, so you have to overlook my erratic or cruel behaviors, because, as YOU said, I m BPD. 3. And sometimes, I was happy till YOU told me I have BPD. Either way, by and large, Nada is not going to respond to therapy, or go to therapy, or change her behaviors, because of anything you say. Nor, more often than not, because of anything a T says. It will somehow be YOUR fault , for telling her, for accusing her, for lying on her, for her unhappiness, or for not overlooking all her Nada traits when you KNOW she is a BPD. The urge to " tell " her what s wrong is steeped in our desire to have her change, to have her be happy, for real, to have her not be miserable to us and in her own life, to have her magically say Ah Ha! and from that epiphany, grow into the normal Mom we always wanted, needed, and Yes, deserved. Sadly, it is unlikely. Doug > > I am pretty new here and I am curious as to how your nada responded when you told her you thought she had BPD (for those of you that took this step). Did she deny it or did she see how it may be the case? If she denied it, what has your relationship been like since then? > > The reason I ask is because I shared my BPD suspicions with my nada about a month ago and then told her I wanted a year long stretch of no contact in order to find my own true self away from her. Now I am a bit wondering what to expect from her if and when I decide to resume things. > > Thanks for your help, > > Darcy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Thanks for your response to this. I found your answer really, really helpful, especially your last paragraph. I told my nada I thought she had BPD because I felt if she knew the cause of what had caused her heartache all these years, maybe it would help her straighten out her life. Now I understand it probably won't make a difference. I didn't have much to lose by telling her. I am the no-good child and my siblings side with my nada- being the good little foot soldiers that she groomed them to be. It has been a tough go for awhile with all of them so nothing will change by what I said. Maybe they will just hate me more. Oh well. Darcy > > > > I am pretty new here and I am curious as to how your nada responded > when you told her you thought she had BPD (for those of you that took > this step). Did she deny it or did she see how it may be the case? If > she denied it, what has your relationship been like since then? > > > > The reason I ask is because I shared my BPD suspicions with my nada > about a month ago and then told her I wanted a year long stretch of no > contact in order to find my own true self away from her. Now I am a bit > wondering what to expect from her if and when I decide to resume things. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Darcy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hi Darcy, After my Nada received the BPD diagnosis, she has used it like a get-out-of- jail -free card., for every imaginable violation of boundaries, and human rights. When caught in egregious lies, and dangerous, cruel, manipulative behaviors, she whips out her diagnosis, and waves it around as though she expects to get it validated for free merchandise or prizes. BPDs do not simply suffer from a lack of information, they suffer from a lack of empathy, and compassion, and conscience. They have an emotional deficit, in varying degrees of profoundness. Doug layed it out really well. Its so frustrating, we want them to want to change, to express genuine remorse, and caring, but, .....it just isn't there within them. I don't believe they have the capacity to do so. That in no way excuses their behavior, it should, however, discourage us from expecting them to behave in ways they cannot. Easier said, than done, tho. Sunspot > ** > > > Thanks for your response to this. I found your answer really, really > helpful, especially your last paragraph. I told my nada I thought she had > BPD because I felt if she knew the cause of what had caused her heartache > all these years, maybe it would help her straighten out her life. Now I > understand it probably won't make a difference. > > I didn't have much to lose by telling her. I am the no-good child and my > siblings side with my nada- being the good little foot soldiers that she > groomed them to be. It has been a tough go for awhile with all of them so > nothing will change by what I said. Maybe they will just hate me more. Oh > well. > > Darcy > > > > > > > > > I am pretty new here and I am curious as to how your nada responded > > when you told her you thought she had BPD (for those of you that took > > this step). Did she deny it or did she see how it may be the case? If > > she denied it, what has your relationship been like since then? > > > > > > The reason I ask is because I shared my BPD suspicions with my nada > > about a month ago and then told her I wanted a year long stretch of no > > contact in order to find my own true self away from her. Now I am a bit > > wondering what to expect from her if and when I decide to resume things. > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > Darcy > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Darcy, I have found it easier without a family like this. Through career struggles and now a husband with brain cancer, I just don't need the constant complaining and triangulation associated with the kind of situation you describe and which, I, too, came out of. Life hasn't gotten easier without them because of all the other trials that came up, but at least I don't have people who act like this to deal with, too. So sorry you are dealing with this. --. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Oh, Sunspot, so true! My nada doesn't acknowledge the BPD diagnosis. My sis and I somehow found out about 25 years ago, when she was hospitalized. " Cluster B " . Somewhere along the way, she also got a bipolar disorder. She labels all her abusive behavior as " bipolar moments. " That she can apparently turn off and on like a light switch, unlike true bipolar disorder. Of course, meds have been ineffective for the most part, because it's BPD. > > > > > > > > I am pretty new here and I am curious as to how your nada responded > > > when you told her you thought she had BPD (for those of you that took > > > this step). Did she deny it or did she see how it may be the case? If > > > she denied it, what has your relationship been like since then? > > > > > > > > The reason I ask is because I shared my BPD suspicions with my nada > > > about a month ago and then told her I wanted a year long stretch of no > > > contact in order to find my own true self away from her. Now I am a bit > > > wondering what to expect from her if and when I decide to resume things. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > > > Darcy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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