Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

[Guest guest]

ECA-Amarillo College-1979-with Danny White; EMT-B-Lubbock Christian

College-1980-Don Nickels; EMT-SS 1983-Dr. Dan , Seymour, Tx;

1986-Paramedic-Dr. Dan . ---- Millican, LP/CRT

[Guest guest]

I didn't mention my EMT-B. 1977 I think it was. We decided to go from Red

Cross to EMT, and add to our skills and equipment. Those of you from those

days remember that an 8-hour RedCross First Aid course was all that was

required. Ambulances had to carry a " first-aid kit " and a traction splint.

That

was it.

Jimmy Dunn helped us get the course organized. We had several physicians

who agreed to teach us the course, but we soon discovered that they were either

clueless as to what an EMT did and wanted to have us intubating and doing

intracardiac injections right off the bat or they never showed up for class.

So we divided the Orange Book up into chapters and basically taught

ourselves.

In those days folks from the Regional TDH offices came and did the skills

exams, and boy were they strict. Dressing, bandaging, and splinting had to be

done just so, and we took pride in following all the rules. We all passed our

exams the first time around.

We did lots of time in the ER, and we learned to bag with the BVM in the OR

with the anesthesiologist. I remember coming out after a procedure in which I

had been the sole ventilator for an hour or so, and my left hand was

semi-permanently claw shaped.

We bought our first ambulance, which was a Ford low-top van with plywood

cabinets, which kept falling over on us after about the first year. But we

were

a huge improvement over what we had before even though, in those days, we

didn't know anything about Load and Go. We stayed and played. We delivered

our

patients to the hospital beautifully splinted and bandaged after 45 minutes

on scene. They were, of course, 90% dead from shock, but we didn't allow

those broken bones to move an inch.

By the time I got to paramedic school, concepts were changing. The first IV

I ever started in the field was with Houston FD and it was enroute to The

Tubs. I was scared to death about sticking on the roll, but once it was done,

and I saw I could do it, that became my permanent plan.

HFD had some great medics in those days, and I learned lessons from them I

will never forget.

Gene G.

>

> I forgot about the special skills rockers for EMT: IV therapy, airway

> management, cardiovascular care. These proceeded EMT-Intermediate.

>

> From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On

> Behalf Of hire-Pattison EMS

> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:39 AM

> To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem

> Subject: Re: Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

>

> I started as an ECA in 1978, became an EMT-B about a year later, Special

> Skills in 1989 and Paramedic in 1990. I won't say how old I was when I

> started, but I'm (unsuccessfully) hiding more years than .

>

> --I have an outline for an Emergency First Aid Course that was

> apparently sponsored or put on by County Emergency Corps. It is dated

> June 21, 1940. Makes for some interesting reading. Give me a call if you

> would like to see it sometime.

>

> Maxine Pate

> hire EMS

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:13:45 -0400

> >From: sremtp20@... <mailto:sremtp20%mailto:sr>

> >Subject: Re: Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

> >To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai>

> >

> > I have tried not to reply to the call for all Dino

> > Medics, unfortunately I cant hide the years any

> > longer.....EMT 1973 (City of Houston Health Dept.,

> > Randy Bertin & Dr. Baker), EMT/Special Skills 1979,?

> > & Paramedic 1980 (completer courses with the old

> > County Emergency Corps; the late

> > Beasley EMS classes) ( Caroline Emergency Care

> > in the Streets).? Not many of us left around that

> > have more than 25 -35 years in service.

> >

> > Damn I am old.....(yes Gene and Dave, we have

> > something in common, just like a few others we know;

> > Ron, Henry).

> >

> > Scarborough

> > Deputy Director

> > Austin County EMS?

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I liked the funeral home work. I could always make someone smile. Why did we

come up with high tops with inverters? We had to be 18 to get an EMT

certificate & recertify every two years. It was not racing. It was just sure

fun. Not all the paper work & suits. I learned the old tricks the hard way.

Stretcher pushed down a bridge, keys taken, back door blocked, ect. It was

fun. If the Q2B was still coasting, you were on scene too long.

B. Diamond

1243 Mystic Parkway

Spring Branch, TX 78070

Office

Fax

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of sremtp20@...

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:06 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

Ok....OK......you did not ask how much time BEFORE an official EMS

certification......Thanks Steve for bringing this up......hmmmmmmm!

Add an additional 3-4 years while in school working for 2 funeral homes

ambulances (meat wagons,etc).?

Scarborough

Austin County EMS

Re: Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

Basic in 1980 and Paramedic in 82. Seems like yesterday. Funny thing, I

was 38 years old when it all started. Wish I had been 22 or younger.

what a trip it has been.

Andy Foote

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 05/14/2008 09:05:46 Central Daylight Time,

phillipsdo@... writes:

Do I qualify with my strange route?

EMT-B at Baylor in Dallas Jan 1982, worked part-time for Professional

Ambulance in Dallas (got my 15 min of fame picking up bodies for ME

office and at Cowboy games). Paramedic class in Terrell finished in

1984. My renewed patch expired in 1992 while I was a resident in

Missouri and Ohio. NREMT *%$@*^'s would not let me take the tests

because I had expired a few weeks before I met them while I was

administering skills exams for Columbus FD.

Finally became an EMS medical director in Missouri in 2001 and moved

back home to Texas in 2003.

Mine's almost as bad....NR EMT A (A-47xxx) in 1976, 91B2F (Flight Medic) in

1980, renewed NR EMT A in 1981...part time ED doc 1988-99, full time since

then...EMS Director 1994-99... Medical Director for B and P courses

1998-2006...now looking for an ambulance outfit to work with...

ck

S. Krin, DO FAAFP

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" If the Q2B was still coasting, you were on scene too long "

In some ways there can be truth in that statement.

LNM

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Re: Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

Basic in 1980 and Paramedic in 82. Seems like yesterday. Funny thing, I

was 38 years old when it all started. Wish I had been 22 or younger.

what a trip it has been.

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Yep, he is here at TLC (dispatch) doing very well. Prior to that he officiated

my sons football games for several years when we lived in Paris. Yep we resumed

our coffee meetings at Lenny's I mean Denny's...

wegandy1938@... wrote: Just having worked for Pro ought to qualify

you. Anybody know where Charlie

Amelucke (sp?) is?

GG

>

> Do I qualify with my strange route?

>

> EMT-B at Baylor in Dallas Jan 1982, worked part-time for Professional

> Ambulance in Dallas (got my 15 min of fame picking up bodies for ME

> office and at Cowboy games). Paramedic class in Terrell finished in

> 1984. My renewed patch expired in 1992 while I was a resident in

> Missouri and Ohio. NREMT *%$@*^'s would not let me take the tests

> because I had expired a few weeks before I met them while I was

> administering skills exams for Columbus FD.

>

> Finally became an EMS medical director in Missouri in 2001 and moved

> back home to Texas in 2003.

>

> Don

>

>

> >

> > Does one need to be a " P " to be a Dino Medic?

> >

> > I became an EMT-A in November of 1981 FWIW.

> >

> > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/ Freelance Cons Freelance Consul

> Consultant

> >

> > LNMolino@...

> >

> > (Cell Phone)

> > (Home Phone)

> > (IFW/TFW/FSS Office)

> > (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax)

> >

> > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> >

> > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 -

> 1962)

> >

> > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the

> author and the

> > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated

> with unless I

> > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is

> intended only for its

> > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

> > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> domain by the

> > original author.

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 5/13/2008 5:50:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > staffdoc9109@ staffdoc91

> >

> > Congrats Gentleman..

> >

> > Welcome to the Dino Medic Club. I graduated from TCOM in 1981 or

> 82, hard to

> > remember that far back and Doc Bledsoe was my instructor. I was

> working for

> > s EMS in Fort Worth...OMG I can't believe I admitted that. I am

> > currently working at Cook Children's Medical Center taking care of

> the pedi

> > patients.

> >

> > Bernie Stafford EMTP

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>>> So how young can you be and still be considered a dino medic? <<<

Don't worry Dawn. This is Texas. Anytime we want to do anything we

have to figure out a way to grandfather everyone in.

Kenny Navarro

[Guest guest]

That's a name out of the past as well as Pro! Guess it's time to chime in too.

ECA in 1978 and EMT in '79 in Nacogdoches. The " orange book " from ACEP was the

text. I was a student at SFA and volunteered on the ambulance. We ran out of

the county ED (Memorial Hospital) so when not on a call we worked the ED and

learned a lot from the Docs and nurses. Docs were not there 24/7. They had to

be called in, especially at night and on weekends. You never knew what doc,

there for what specialty was showing up. Coming in with an OB you could have the

orthopedist on call who comes in!!!

You had to renew your certification every 2 years and that was with state doing

the skills and written testing!

1981 was special skills and going to work for Paris, TX who was just starting to

do ALS. We had to call for permission to start IV's or intubate! They didn't

have standing orders/protocols yet. When it was a bad call and you started the

IV in the back of the ambulance, it wasn't uncommon to shove the needle in the

bench seat so no one would get stuck by it during the call and clean it up

later. It was also a time when only " wimps " wore gloves unless it was an OB

call. Getting blood on you was a sign of a " good " call and almost like a badge

of honor!!! We weren't worried about HIV (what was that) and most didn't worry

about hep or other diseases too often! What a change.

1982 Paramedic school back in Nacogdoches. Carolines book was it! In the

1980's was HEB ambulance service....post s era back in the DFW metroplex.

We thought we were something with 2 paramedics on the box (no high-top vans

anymore!) was running things, Barnhart was a supervisor,

was there. Donnie P. you remember those days right!? I've been able to

work with a lot of great medics over the years! Still run into many of them/you

at conference!

Teel, LP, NREMT-P, BS

Town of Highland Park EMS Coordinator

University Park EMS Coordinator

Paramedic Instructor

Emergency Medicine Education University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at

Dallas

Pager

Cell

>>> 5/14/2008 19:28 >>>

Just having worked for Pro ought to qualify you. Anybody know where Charlie

Amelucke (sp?) is?

GG

[Guest guest]

1976- EMT-B through CLEMC; I was with CLCVFD

1979- EMT-P UTSAHS- Houston (Gene Weatherall and Vicki )

1985- First AAS from Amarillo College in Paramedicine Technology

Busy with this and that ever since.

" A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the

simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. " Proverbs 22:3

[Guest guest]

If you see him give him a big Howdy for me.

GG

>

> Yep, he is here at TLC (dispatch) doing very well. Prior to that he

> officiated my sons football games for several years when we lived in Paris.

Yep we

> resumed our coffee meetings at Lenny's I mean Denny's...

>

> wegandy1938@wegandy wrote: Just having worked for Pro ought to qualify you.

> Anybody know where Charlie

> Amelucke (sp?) is?

>

> GG

>

>

> >

> > Do I qualify with my strange route?

> >

> > EMT-B at Baylor in Dallas Jan 1982, worked part-time for Professional

> > Ambulance in Dallas (got my 15 min of fame picking up bodies for ME

> > office and at Cowboy games). Paramedic class in Terrell finished in

> > 1984. My renewed patch expired in 1992 while I was a resident in

> > Missouri and Ohio. NREMT *%$@*^'s would not let me take the tests

> > because I had expired a few weeks before I met them while I was

> > administering skills exams for Columbus FD.

> >

> > Finally became an EMS medical director in Missouri in 2001 and moved

> > back home to Texas in 2003.

> >

> > Don

> >

> > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In texasems-l@yahoogro

> > >

> > > Does one need to be a " P " to be a Dino Medic?

> > >

> > > I became an EMT-A in November of 1981 FWIW.

> > >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/ Freelance Cons Freelance Consul

> > Consultant

> > >

> > > LNMolino@...

> > >

> > > (Cell Phone)

> > > (Home Phone)

> > > (IFW/TFW/FSS Office)

> > > (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax)

> > >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> > >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 -

> > 1962)

> > >

> > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the

> > author and the

> > > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> > > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated

> > with unless I

> > > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is

> > intended only for its

> > > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

> > > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> > domain by the

> > > original author.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 5/13/2008 5:50:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > > staffdoc9109@ staffdoc91

> > >

> > > Congrats Gentleman..

> > >

> > > Welcome to the Dino Medic Club. I graduated from TCOM in 1981 or

> > 82, hard to

> > > remember that far back and Doc Bledsoe was my instructor. I was

> > working for

> > > s EMS in Fort Worth...OMG I can't believe I admitted that. I am

> > > currently working at Cook Children's Medical Center taking care of

> > the pedi

> > > patients.

> > >

> > > Bernie Stafford EMTP

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

If she was cute you could use the brake on the Q2. ECA jan 77, EMT Summer of

77, EMT-P Summer of 78, Henry Barber instructed,

back when he could tie his own shoes, prepublished edition of Caroline text,

which I still have.

Vernon Gresham

-- Re: Joining the ranks of Dino Medics

Basic in 1980 and Paramedic in 82. Seems like yesterday. Funny thing, I

was 38 years old when it all started. Wish I had been 22 or younger.

what a trip it has been.

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[Guest guest]

I will, the world around here just got a little smaller. Yep " were back in the

county " .

LMc

wegandy1938@... wrote:

If you see him give him a big Howdy for me.

GG

>

> Yep, he is here at TLC (dispatch) doing very well. Prior to that he

> officiated my sons football games for several years when we lived in Paris.

Yep we

> resumed our coffee meetings at Lenny's I mean Denny's...

>

> wegandy1938@wegandy wrote: Just having worked for Pro ought to qualify you.

> Anybody know where Charlie

> Amelucke (sp?) is?

>

> GG

>

>

> >

> > Do I qualify with my strange route?

> >

> > EMT-B at Baylor in Dallas Jan 1982, worked part-time for Professional

> > Ambulance in Dallas (got my 15 min of fame picking up bodies for ME

> > office and at Cowboy games). Paramedic class in Terrell finished in

> > 1984. My renewed patch expired in 1992 while I was a resident in

> > Missouri and Ohio. NREMT *%$@*^'s would not let me take the tests

> > because I had expired a few weeks before I met them while I was

> > administering skills exams for Columbus FD.

> >

> > Finally became an EMS medical director in Missouri in 2001 and moved

> > back home to Texas in 2003.

> >

> > Don

> >

> > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In texasems-l@yahoogro

> > >

> > > Does one need to be a " P " to be a Dino Medic?

> > >

> > > I became an EMT-A in November of 1981 FWIW.

> > >

> > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

> > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> > > Freelance Consultant/Trainer/ Freelance Cons Freelance Consul

> > Consultant

> > >

> > > LNMolino@...

> > >

> > > (Cell Phone)

> > > (Home Phone)

> > > (IFW/TFW/FSS Office)

> > > (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax)

> > >

> > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

> > >

> > > " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

> > > discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 -

> > 1962)

> > >

> > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the

> > author and the

> > > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

> > > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated

> > with unless I

> > > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is

> > intended only for its

> > > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

> > > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public

> > domain by the

> > > original author.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 5/13/2008 5:50:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > > staffdoc9109@ staffdoc91

> > >

> > > Congrats Gentleman..

> > >

> > > Welcome to the Dino Medic Club. I graduated from TCOM in 1981 or

> > 82, hard to

> > > remember that far back and Doc Bledsoe was my instructor. I was

> > working for

> > > s EMS in Fort Worth...OMG I can't believe I admitted that. I am

> > > currently working at Cook Children's Medical Center taking care of

> > the pedi

> > > patients.

> > >

> > > Bernie Stafford EMTP

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ya know that's what I love about ya'll------ Even though as I say i moved

back home I will always have a big warm fuzzy spot ina my heart for

Texas!!!!!!! Who knows one day I may come back. LOL--

Dawn

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[Guest guest]

Sorry, I'm late on these! I don't get to go through

these emails very often. This is so funny! I forgot

about my Caroline " Orange " book! Maybe, I'm not

as OLD as you guys, BUT I've been in EMS for 23 years!

Can imagine doing anything else! I enjoyed reading

your stories!

Peggy Word, EMT-P

Chief Flight Coordinator

MCH CareStar

--- " Bledsoe, DO "

wrote:

> There has always been a good ambulance trash

> contingent at EMStock. We can

> make most wheel-chair and handi-van accessible and

> we can hire guards to

> cover those who remain incarcerated. Let's have Skip

> Straus " Chaplain Skip "

> come for stories of his Fort Worth ambulance days

> before he found religion

> and CISM. We can make the members of his flock

> blush..

>

>

>

> When we tell stories from the old days to the

> younger people, they rarely

> believe us. Remember seeing who could go the fastest

> through the old

> Dallas/Fort Worth Turnpike in a Modulance. We often

> exceeded 100 mph and

> sucked thousands of those IBM cards out of the booth

> in the draft behind the

> ambulance. Blumberg (GRHS) still holds the

> record.

>

>

>

> From: texasems-l

> [mailto:texasems-l ] On

> Behalf Of Bernie Stafford

> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:50 AM

> To: texasems-l

> Subject: RE: Joining the ranks of Dino

> Medics

>

>

>

> I had a set of those patches somewhere. Major flash

> back.. I also worked for

> Joe Brown at the old Meissner Brown Funeral Home in

> Poly. We really need to

> have an reunion at EMStock or the EMS Conference.

>

> Bernie Stafford EMTP

>

> From: texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ]

> On

> Behalf Of Bledsoe, DO

> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:43 AM

> To: texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: Joining the ranks of Dino

> Medics

>

> I forgot about the special skills rockers for EMT:

> IV therapy, airway

> management, cardiovascular care. These proceeded

> EMT-Intermediate.

>

> From: texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ]

> On

> Behalf Of hire-Pattison EMS

> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:39 AM

> To: texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Joining the ranks of Dino

> Medics

>

> I started as an ECA in 1978, became an EMT-B about a

> year later, Special

> Skills in 1989 and Paramedic in 1990. I won't say

> how old I was when I

> started, but I'm (unsuccessfully) hiding more years

> than .

>

> --I have an outline for an Emergency First Aid

> Course that was

> apparently sponsored or put on by County

> Emergency Corps. It is dated

> June 21, 1940. Makes for some interesting reading.

> Give me a call if you

> would like to see it sometime.

>

> Maxine Pate

> hire EMS

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:13:45 -0400

> >From: sremtp20@... <mailto:sremtp20%40aol.com>

> <mailto:sremtp20%40aol.com>

> <mailto:sremtp20%40aol.com>

> >Subject: Re: Joining the ranks of Dino

> Medics

> >To: texasems-l

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> >

> > I have tried not to reply to the call for all Dino

> > Medics, unfortunately I cant hide the years any

> > longer.....EMT 1973 (City of Houston Health Dept.,

> > Randy Bertin & Dr. Baker), EMT/Special Skills

> 1979,?

> > & Paramedic 1980 (completer courses with the old

> > County Emergency Corps; the late

> > Beasley EMS classes) ( Caroline Emergency

> Care

> > in the Streets).? Not many of us left around that

> > have more than 25 -35 years in service.

> >

> > Damn I am old.....(yes Gene and Dave, we have

> > something in common, just like a few others we

> know;

> > Ron, Henry).

> >

> > Scarborough

> > Deputy Director

> > Austin County EMS?

> >

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

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