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Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a portion

of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were white, with

red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock. When I hit the

streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s (the mad dog monitor).

Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now, I'm

the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a long

strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank you

to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me when I was

coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

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If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might be a

Dino.

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a portion of

a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were white, with red

and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock. When I hit the streets

as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s (the mad dog monitor). Oh how

we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now, I'm

the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a long

strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me when I

was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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I guess I might qualify.

Telecare. white or orange box (weighed a TON) with integrated UHF med

channel radio, EKG monitor, EKG Strip writer, digital blood pressure, and

fixed flow chemical oxygen canister.

EMT Basic in 1977.

Had the IV and Airway Special Skills Rockers in 1979.

Paramedic in 1982.

Retired from active EMS 2 years ago. doing a bit of consulting now.

Man. what a ride!

Jack..

Dinomedic.

Certified Old Fart

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Subject: Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

be a Dino.

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

(the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

long strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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Did anyone actually USE the Telecare or the Biophone??

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Subject: Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

be a Dino.

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

(the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

long strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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Heyyyy.. Old timers disease kicking in.

I forgot the defibrillator.

<sigh>

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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:37 PM

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I guess I might qualify.

Telecare. white or orange box (weighed a TON) with integrated UHF med

channel radio, EKG monitor, EKG Strip writer, digital blood pressure, and

fixed flow chemical oxygen canister.

EMT Basic in 1977.

Had the IV and Airway Special Skills Rockers in 1979.

Paramedic in 1982.

Retired from active EMS 2 years ago. doing a bit of consulting now.

Man. what a ride!

Jack..

Dinomedic.

Certified Old Fart

From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

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On

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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:05 PM

To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

be a Dino.

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

(the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

long strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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I used the Biophone. All 60 pounds of it with the removable EKG screen with

the green screen.

Bernie Stafford EMTP

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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:38 PM

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Did anyone actually USE the Telecare or the Biophone??

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To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

be a Dino.

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

(the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

long strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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Along about 1982 or so, TDH got some grant money to buy medical

communications equipment, and they came up with a hybrid system that was a

radio/land line

interface. I can't remember the name of it. Can anybody help?

Anyway, we got this stuff through our RAC, and TDH sent some guy who

supposedly had worked on communications on Air Force One to put it in. The

first

thing that happened was that the phone companies had no clue about it, nor were

they interested in learning about it. In our area the phone companies were

General Telephone (in the county seat where the transmitter/receivers/repeater

were), and in my home town where SW Bell was the provider. There was not only

no communication between them, but they were hostile to each other.

After months of delay and numerous visits by Mr. AFOne RadioPhone, we finally

managed to get the receiver/dedicated line put in. Then the fun began.

Three o'clock in the morning. I'm transporting a chest-pain patient. I

punch in the dedicated number to Fannin County Hospital. Ringgggg, Ringgggggg,

Rinnggggg, " Hello? " " Good morning, this is Honey Grove Medic 1, paramedic

Gandy. We're 15 minutes out with a 78 year-old male with chest pain. How do

you copy? " " Hello? " " Yes, this is HG Med 1. Is this Fannin County

Hospital? " " Who? Who are you calling? This is Larry Smedlow in Ravenna. "

" Oh, sorry Mr. Smedlow, our radio must have dialed the wrong number. Please

excuse the call. " " Yhmmmph, OK, night. "

I try again. This time I manually punch in the number of Fannin County

Hospital ER, the dedicated EMS line. " Ringggggg, ringggggggggg, ringgggggg. "

" Hnhmmmmfff, who's this? "

" Er, this is Honey Grove Medic One. How do you copy? " " Who the f*** is

this? It's f****** 3 o'clock in the morning. F*** off! "

" OH, I am very sorry, sir. Please excuse the call. "

By now we're pulling into the driveway at said hospital. The back door is

locked, as it always was after 10 pm, and there's nobody in the ER. However,

there is a big red button on the wall that you push for service. So I'm

standing there cursing TDH, General Telephone, SW Bell, and that BOZO from Air

Force ONE and my patient is groaning and moaning and for all I know TTD on me.

Finally, after what seemed like decades, Nurse Ingrid opened the door and

wants to know what we want. " Well, " I say, " I've got a patient here having a

heart attack, and we thought it would be a good thing if we brought him to the

hospital. " " WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL!! "

" Yes ma'am, I know. We did call but kept getting a busy signal, " I lied.

Next day I called Gene Weatherall and told him about the situation with our

high-powered communications system and told him that the guy from Air Force One

was a complete idiot, and to send us somebody who knew what he was doing.

Whereupon Gene said, " Hey, we know he's an idiot, but he's the best idiot

we've got, so he's your idiot too. So when are you coming to Austin? "

We found out that General Telephone would randomly switch the supposedly

dedicated line to the next customer who applied for a phone, because it never

told

its field guys about our system. They had no clue and didn't have any

interest in getting one. The system worked, maybe once or twice in a year, but

most of the time it was worthless.

We applied for and got another grant for straight radio communications with

the hospital and after that things were better. Somewhere, in some closet,

the original equipment lurks.

But in the meantime, one incident happened that's worth sharing. Before we

got direct communications with the hospital we had to talk by radio to the

sheriff's dispatcher, and he or she would relay our messages by phone to the ER.

One night I was riding with the sheriff, and a call went out for a " man

down " at the local VFW hall. We were not far away, and we got there in maybe 5

mindutes. Walked in to find a man lying in the middle of the dance floor,

with a man's jacket rolled up and placed beneath his head, insuring that his

airway was definitely not patient. He was coded. The place was packed, but the

patrons were all sitting at their tables, drinking their drinks, and nobody was

doing anything for the newly deceased. The jukebox was probably playing

or Patsy Cline. I don't remember.

Sheriff and I started CPR, and soon Fannin County Ambulance showed up. Now,

in those days we were all basics. So they came in and we got Mr. Deceased

on the cot and started to the ambulance with him, all the time doing FIRST

CLASS CPR.

Got to the door and Mr. Deceased's arms happened to flop just before the

door, and the EMTs were hustling the cot to the ambulance and didn't see this,

so

Mr. Deceased's arms caught on the door, effectively extricating him from the

cot. Undeterred, we replaced him on the cot and got enroute to the hospital.

Now all these EMTs were friends of mine, and we were doing the best we

could. We thought.

I got on the radio and called SO and said, " Call Fannin County and tell them

we're enroute with a cardiac arrest. " " 10-4 " was the response.

We get to the hospital and the door's locked. I am furious. I lean on the

red bell button, and eventually a nurse shows up and opens the door and lets

us in.

After the patient was pronounced, I said, as nicely as I could, " why was the

door locked and why weren't y'all ready for us when we got here? " She

explained it perfectly. She said, " Gene, SO called and said y'all were coming

with

a prisoner who was under arrest. We couldn't get very excited about that. "

I had no alternative but to agree.

GG

>

>

>

> When working with P's in New Jersey in the early 1980's I never heard of nor

> saw anything like what is being called a Telecare but we DID have a Motorola

> Bio-Phone and up until well the late 1990's if you were more then about 3

> blocks ahead of the Medic unit and its repeater the sound went south FAST.

> Since NJ is as Gene would say a " Mother May I State (more so then than now)

we'd

> get chewed out quite a lot by both Medics and Medical Control Docs on that

> point as BLS Providers (as if that affected us ;))

>

> --

> Lou Molino, Sr.

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> From the road some where ;)

> (Cell Phone)

>

> Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

> be a Dino.

> Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

> Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

> cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

> portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

> white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

> When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

> (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

> I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

> long strange trip it's been.

>

> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

> you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

> when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> office

> fax

>

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When working with P's in New Jersey in the early 1980's I never heard of nor saw

anything like what is being called a Telecare but we DID have a Motorola

Bio-Phone and up until well the late 1990's if you were more then about 3 blocks

ahead of the Medic unit and its repeater the sound went south FAST. Since NJ is

as Gene would say a " Mother May I State (more so then than now) we'd get chewed

out quite a lot by both Medics and Medical Control Docs on that point as BLS

Providers (as if that affected us ;))

--

Lou Molino, Sr.

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

From the road some where ;)

(Cell Phone)

Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

be a Dino.

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

(the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

long strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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Correct Jack, It also had room for you BVM Laryngoscope and blades along with a

telephone multicoupler. It came with a special rack that fit your stretcher. I

still have one of the quick connect pins that held the rack on. When you talke

about the Telecare box the employment phrase comes to mind " can you lift? " Half

the time all or none of the box would work. We never could find anyone to work

on them. When the Life Pak 5 with the blue screen came out we thought we were

the doo doo.

There is one person that I know on the list here who is remaining silent that

has been in EMS longer than I have. Mr. Koonce, he taught me everthing I didn't

know. However in those days I thought I knew everything. EMT Class in 1972 an

Paramedic in 1973.

The book was a draft copy not even in print of Caroline.

Dennis Gross and Bob Koonce put the class together with Dr's and Nurses as guest

speakers.

First IV was with a butterfly followed by I think Aboject ? They came in a

plastic container and we always carried one or two in the pocket.

First stretcher was the old funeral home cot followed by model 30.

First ambulance 65 Hearse with huge wind up siren followed by first Mod U Lance

with single rear.

I think Mr. Koonce did some time in Austin on the Ambulance and for the state

prior to 1973 when I first met him.

Henry

Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

(the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

long strange trip it's been.

I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

office

fax

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Gene - we had Kell-Pioneers 1980-82 - RTSS system (early cell phone is basically

what it was). Is that the same thing you're thinking about?

Don

>>> 05/15/08 3:32 AM >>>

Along about 1982 or so, TDH got some grant money to buy medical

communications equipment, and they came up with a hybrid system that was a

radio/land line

interface. I can't remember the name of it. Can anybody help?

Anyway, we got this stuff through our RAC, and TDH sent some guy who

supposedly had worked on communications on Air Force One to put it in. The

first

thing that happened was that the phone companies had no clue about it, nor were

they interested in learning about it. In our area the phone companies were

General Telephone (in the county seat where the transmitter/receivers/repeater

were), and in my home town where SW Bell was the provider. There was not only

no communication between them, but they were hostile to each other.

After months of delay and numerous visits by Mr. AFOne RadioPhone, we finally

managed to get the receiver/dedicated line put in. Then the fun began.

Three o'clock in the morning. I'm transporting a chest-pain patient. I

punch in the dedicated number to Fannin County Hospital. Ringgggg, Ringgggggg,

Rinnggggg, " Hello? " " Good morning, this is Honey Grove Medic 1, paramedic

Gandy. We're 15 minutes out with a 78 year-old male with chest pain. How do

you copy? " " Hello? " " Yes, this is HG Med 1. Is this Fannin County

Hospital? " " Who? Who are you calling? This is Larry Smedlow in Ravenna. "

" Oh, sorry Mr. Smedlow, our radio must have dialed the wrong number. Please

excuse the call. " " Yhmmmph, OK, night. "

I try again. This time I manually punch in the number of Fannin County

Hospital ER, the dedicated EMS line. " Ringggggg, ringggggggggg, ringgggggg. "

" Hnhmmmmfff, who's this? "

" Er, this is Honey Grove Medic One. How do you copy? " " Who the f*** is

this? It's f****** 3 o'clock in the morning. F*** off! "

" OH, I am very sorry, sir. Please excuse the call. "

By now we're pulling into the driveway at said hospital. The back door is

locked, as it always was after 10 pm, and there's nobody in the ER. However,

there is a big red button on the wall that you push for service. So I'm

standing there cursing TDH, General Telephone, SW Bell, and that BOZO from Air

Force ONE and my patient is groaning and moaning and for all I know TTD on me.

Finally, after what seemed like decades, Nurse Ingrid opened the door and

wants to know what we want. " Well, " I say, " I've got a patient here having a

heart attack, and we thought it would be a good thing if we brought him to the

hospital. " " WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL!! "

" Yes ma'am, I know. We did call but kept getting a busy signal, " I lied.

Next day I called Gene Weatherall and told him about the situation with our

high-powered communications system and told him that the guy from Air Force One

was a complete idiot, and to send us somebody who knew what he was doing.

Whereupon Gene said, " Hey, we know he's an idiot, but he's the best idiot

we've got, so he's your idiot too. So when are you coming to Austin? "

We found out that General Telephone would randomly switch the supposedly

dedicated line to the next customer who applied for a phone, because it never

told

its field guys about our system. They had no clue and didn't have any

interest in getting one. The system worked, maybe once or twice in a year, but

most of the time it was worthless.

We applied for and got another grant for straight radio communications with

the hospital and after that things were better. Somewhere, in some closet,

the original equipment lurks.

But in the meantime, one incident happened that's worth sharing. Before we

got direct communications with the hospital we had to talk by radio to the

sheriff's dispatcher, and he or she would relay our messages by phone to the ER.

One night I was riding with the sheriff, and a call went out for a " man

down " at the local VFW hall. We were not far away, and we got there in maybe 5

mindutes. Walked in to find a man lying in the middle of the dance floor,

with a man's jacket rolled up and placed beneath his head, insuring that his

airway was definitely not patient. He was coded. The place was packed, but the

patrons were all sitting at their tables, drinking their drinks, and nobody was

doing anything for the newly deceased. The jukebox was probably playing

or Patsy Cline. I don't remember.

Sheriff and I started CPR, and soon Fannin County Ambulance showed up. Now,

in those days we were all basics. So they came in and we got Mr. Deceased

on the cot and started to the ambulance with him, all the time doing FIRST

CLASS CPR.

Got to the door and Mr. Deceased's arms happened to flop just before the

door, and the EMTs were hustling the cot to the ambulance and didn't see this,

so

Mr. Deceased's arms caught on the door, effectively extricating him from the

cot. Undeterred, we replaced him on the cot and got enroute to the hospital.

Now all these EMTs were friends of mine, and we were doing the best we

could. We thought.

I got on the radio and called SO and said, " Call Fannin County and tell them

we're enroute with a cardiac arrest. " " 10-4 " was the response.

We get to the hospital and the door's locked. I am furious. I lean on the

red bell button, and eventually a nurse shows up and opens the door and lets

us in.

After the patient was pronounced, I said, as nicely as I could, " why was the

door locked and why weren't y'all ready for us when we got here? " She

explained it perfectly. She said, " Gene, SO called and said y'all were coming

with

a prisoner who was under arrest. We couldn't get very excited about that. "

I had no alternative but to agree.

GG

>

>

>

> When working with P's in New Jersey in the early 1980's I never heard of nor

> saw anything like what is being called a Telecare but we DID have a Motorola

> Bio-Phone and up until well the late 1990's if you were more then about 3

> blocks ahead of the Medic unit and its repeater the sound went south FAST.

> Since NJ is as Gene would say a " Mother May I State (more so then than now)

we'd

> get chewed out quite a lot by both Medics and Medical Control Docs on that

> point as BLS Providers (as if that affected us ;))

>

> --

> Lou Molino, Sr.

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> From the road some where ;)

> (Cell Phone)

>

> Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

> be a Dino.

> Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

> Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

> cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

> portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

> white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

> When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

> (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

> I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

> long strange trip it's been.

>

> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

> you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

> when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> office

> fax

>

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf

Of wegandy1938@...

Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:33 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

Along about 1982 or so, TDH got some grant money to buy medical

communications equipment, and they came up with a hybrid system that was a

radio/land line

interface. I can't remember the name of it. Can anybody help?

Anyway, we got this stuff through our RAC, and TDH sent some guy who

supposedly had worked on communications on Air Force One to put it in. The first

thing that happened was that the phone companies had no clue about it, nor were

they interested in learning about it. In our area the phone companies were

General Telephone (in the county seat where the transmitter/receivers/repeater

were), and in my home town where SW Bell was the provider. There was not only

no communication between them, but they were hostile to each other.

After months of delay and numerous visits by Mr. AFOne RadioPhone, we finally

managed to get the receiver/dedicated line put in. Then the fun began.

Three o'clock in the morning. I'm transporting a chest-pain patient. I

punch in the dedicated number to Fannin County Hospital. Ringgggg, Ringgggggg,

Rinnggggg, " Hello? " " Good morning, this is Honey Grove Medic 1, paramedic

Gandy. We're 15 minutes out with a 78 year-old male with chest pain. How do

you copy? " " Hello? " " Yes, this is HG Med 1. Is this Fannin County

Hospital? " " Who? Who are you calling? This is Larry Smedlow in Ravenna. "

" Oh, sorry Mr. Smedlow, our radio must have dialed the wrong number. Please

excuse the call. " " Yhmmmph, OK, night. "

I try again. This time I manually punch in the number of Fannin County

Hospital ER, the dedicated EMS line. " Ringggggg, ringggggggggg, ringgggggg. "

" Hnhmmmmfff, who's this? "

" Er, this is Honey Grove Medic One. How do you copy? " " Who the f*** is

this? It's f****** 3 o'clock in the morning. F*** off! "

" OH, I am very sorry, sir. Please excuse the call. "

By now we're pulling into the driveway at said hospital. The back door is

locked, as it always was after 10 pm, and there's nobody in the ER. However,

there is a big red button on the wall that you push for service. So I'm

standing there cursing TDH, General Telephone, SW Bell, and that BOZO from Air

Force ONE and my patient is groaning and moaning and for all I know TTD on me.

Finally, after what seemed like decades, Nurse Ingrid opened the door and

wants to know what we want. " Well, " I say, " I've got a patient here having a

heart attack, and we thought it would be a good thing if we brought him to the

hospital. " " WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL!! "

" Yes ma'am, I know. We did call but kept getting a busy signal, " I lied.

Next day I called Gene Weatherall and told him about the situation with our

high-powered communications system and told him that the guy from Air Force One

was a complete idiot, and to send us somebody who knew what he was doing.

Whereupon Gene said, " Hey, we know he's an idiot, but he's the best idiot

we've got, so he's your idiot too. So when are you coming to Austin? "

We found out that General Telephone would randomly switch the supposedly

dedicated line to the next customer who applied for a phone, because it never

told

its field guys about our system. They had no clue and didn't have any

interest in getting one. The system worked, maybe once or twice in a year, but

most of the time it was worthless.

We applied for and got another grant for straight radio communications with

the hospital and after that things were better. Somewhere, in some closet,

the original equipment lurks.

But in the meantime, one incident happened that's worth sharing. Before we

got direct communications with the hospital we had to talk by radio to the

sheriff's dispatcher, and he or she would relay our messages by phone to the ER.

One night I was riding with the sheriff, and a call went out for a " man

down " at the local VFW hall. We were not far away, and we got there in maybe 5

mindutes. Walked in to find a man lying in the middle of the dance floor,

with a man's jacket rolled up and placed beneath his head, insuring that his

airway was definitely not patient. He was coded. The place was packed, but the

patrons were all sitting at their tables, drinking their drinks, and nobody was

doing anything for the newly deceased. The jukebox was probably playing

or Patsy Cline. I don't remember.

Sheriff and I started CPR, and soon Fannin County Ambulance showed up. Now,

in those days we were all basics. So they came in and we got Mr. Deceased

on the cot and started to the ambulance with him, all the time doing FIRST

CLASS CPR.

Got to the door and Mr. Deceased's arms happened to flop just before the

door, and the EMTs were hustling the cot to the ambulance and didn't see this,

so

Mr. Deceased's arms caught on the door, effectively extricating him from the

cot. Undeterred, we replaced him on the cot and got enroute to the hospital.

Now all these EMTs were friends of mine, and we were doing the best we

could. We thought.

I got on the radio and called SO and said, " Call Fannin County and tell them

we're enroute with a cardiac arrest. " " 10-4 " was the response.

We get to the hospital and the door's locked. I am furious. I lean on the

red bell button, and eventually a nurse shows up and opens the door and lets

us in.

After the patient was pronounced, I said, as nicely as I could, " why was the

door locked and why weren't y'all ready for us when we got here? " She

explained it perfectly. She said, " Gene, SO called and said y'all were coming

with

a prisoner who was under arrest. We couldn't get very excited about that. "

I had no alternative but to agree.

GG

In a message dated 5/14/08 9:57:38 PM,

lnmolino@...<mailto:lnmolino%40aol.com> writes:

>

>

>

> When working with P's in New Jersey in the early 1980's I never heard of nor

> saw anything like what is being called a Telecare but we DID have a Motorola

> Bio-Phone and up until well the late 1990's if you were more then about 3

> blocks ahead of the Medic unit and its repeater the sound went south FAST.

> Since NJ is as Gene would say a " Mother May I State (more so then than now)

we'd

> get chewed out quite a lot by both Medics and Medical Control Docs on that

> point as BLS Providers (as if that affected us ;))

>

> --

> Lou Molino, Sr.

> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> From the road some where ;)

> (Cell Phone)

>

> Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you might

> be a Dino.

> Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

> Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

> cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

> portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

> white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

> When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

> (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

> I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

> long strange trip it's been.

>

> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

> you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

> when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> office

> fax

>

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It sure sounds like the old RTSS system. I recall the idiot (excuse me -

best idiot) and how the equipment functioned......or didn't function.

> Gene - we had Kell-Pioneers 1980-82 - RTSS system (early cell phone is

> basically what it was). Is that the same thing you're thinking about?

> Don

>

>

>

>>>> 05/15/08 3:32 AM >>>

> Along about 1982 or so, TDH got some grant money to buy medical

> communications equipment, and they came up with a hybrid system that was a

> radio/land line

> interface. I can't remember the name of it. Can anybody help?

>

> Anyway, we got this stuff through our RAC, and TDH sent some guy who

> supposedly had worked on communications on Air Force One to put it in.

> The first

> thing that happened was that the phone companies had no clue about it, nor

> were

> they interested in learning about it. In our area the phone companies

> were

> General Telephone (in the county seat where the

> transmitter/receivers/repeater

> were), and in my home town where SW Bell was the provider. There was not

> only

> no communication between them, but they were hostile to each other.

>

> After months of delay and numerous visits by Mr. AFOne RadioPhone, we

> finally

> managed to get the receiver/dedicated line put in. Then the fun began.

>

> Three o'clock in the morning. I'm transporting a chest-pain patient. I

> punch in the dedicated number to Fannin County Hospital. Ringgggg,

> Ringgggggg,

> Rinnggggg, " Hello? " " Good morning, this is Honey Grove Medic 1,

> paramedic

> Gandy. We're 15 minutes out with a 78 year-old male with chest pain. How

> do

> you copy? " " Hello? " " Yes, this is HG Med 1. Is this Fannin County

> Hospital? " " Who? Who are you calling? This is Larry Smedlow in

> Ravenna. "

> " Oh, sorry Mr. Smedlow, our radio must have dialed the wrong number.

> Please

> excuse the call. " " Yhmmmph, OK, night. "

>

> I try again. This time I manually punch in the number of Fannin County

> Hospital ER, the dedicated EMS line. " Ringggggg, ringggggggggg,

> ringgggggg. "

> " Hnhmmmmfff, who's this? "

>

> " Er, this is Honey Grove Medic One. How do you copy? " " Who the f***

> is

> this? It's f****** 3 o'clock in the morning. F*** off! "

>

> " OH, I am very sorry, sir. Please excuse the call. "

>

> By now we're pulling into the driveway at said hospital. The back door

> is

> locked, as it always was after 10 pm, and there's nobody in the ER.

> However,

> there is a big red button on the wall that you push for service. So I'm

> standing there cursing TDH, General Telephone, SW Bell, and that BOZO from

> Air

> Force ONE and my patient is groaning and moaning and for all I know TTD on

> me.

>

> Finally, after what seemed like decades, Nurse Ingrid opened the door and

> wants to know what we want. " Well, " I say, " I've got a patient here

> having a

> heart attack, and we thought it would be a good thing if we brought him to

> the

> hospital. " " WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL!! "

>

> " Yes ma'am, I know. We did call but kept getting a busy signal, " I lied.

>

> Next day I called Gene Weatherall and told him about the situation with

> our

> high-powered communications system and told him that the guy from Air

> Force One

> was a complete idiot, and to send us somebody who knew what he was doing.

>

> Whereupon Gene said, " Hey, we know he's an idiot, but he's the best idiot

> we've got, so he's your idiot too. So when are you coming to Austin? "

>

> We found out that General Telephone would randomly switch the supposedly

> dedicated line to the next customer who applied for a phone, because it

> never told

> its field guys about our system. They had no clue and didn't have any

> interest in getting one. The system worked, maybe once or twice in a

> year, but

> most of the time it was worthless.

>

> We applied for and got another grant for straight radio communications

> with

> the hospital and after that things were better. Somewhere, in some

> closet,

> the original equipment lurks.

>

> But in the meantime, one incident happened that's worth sharing. Before

> we

> got direct communications with the hospital we had to talk by radio to the

> sheriff's dispatcher, and he or she would relay our messages by phone to

> the ER.

> One night I was riding with the sheriff, and a call went out for a " man

> down " at the local VFW hall. We were not far away, and we got there in

> maybe 5

> mindutes. Walked in to find a man lying in the middle of the dance

> floor,

> with a man's jacket rolled up and placed beneath his head, insuring that

> his

> airway was definitely not patient. He was coded. The place was packed,

> but the

> patrons were all sitting at their tables, drinking their drinks, and

> nobody was

> doing anything for the newly deceased. The jukebox was probably playing

> or Patsy Cline. I don't remember.

>

> Sheriff and I started CPR, and soon Fannin County Ambulance showed up.

> Now,

> in those days we were all basics. So they came in and we got Mr.

> Deceased

> on the cot and started to the ambulance with him, all the time doing FIRST

> CLASS CPR.

>

> Got to the door and Mr. Deceased's arms happened to flop just before the

> door, and the EMTs were hustling the cot to the ambulance and didn't see

> this, so

> Mr. Deceased's arms caught on the door, effectively extricating him from

> the

> cot. Undeterred, we replaced him on the cot and got enroute to the

> hospital.

> Now all these EMTs were friends of mine, and we were doing the best we

> could. We thought.

>

> I got on the radio and called SO and said, " Call Fannin County and tell

> them

> we're enroute with a cardiac arrest. " " 10-4 " was the response.

>

> We get to the hospital and the door's locked. I am furious. I lean on

> the

> red bell button, and eventually a nurse shows up and opens the door and

> lets

> us in.

>

> After the patient was pronounced, I said, as nicely as I could, " why was

> the

> door locked and why weren't y'all ready for us when we got here? " She

> explained it perfectly. She said, " Gene, SO called and said y'all were

> coming with

> a prisoner who was under arrest. We couldn't get very excited about

> that. "

> I had no alternative but to agree.

>

> GG

>

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>> When working with P's in New Jersey in the early 1980's I never heard of

>> nor

>> saw anything like what is being called a Telecare but we DID have a

>> Motorola

>> Bio-Phone and up until well the late 1990's if you were more then about

>> 3

>> blocks ahead of the Medic unit and its repeater the sound went south

>> FAST.

>> Since NJ is as Gene would say a " Mother May I State (more so then than

>> now) we'd

>> get chewed out quite a lot by both Medics and Medical Control Docs on

>> that

>> point as BLS Providers (as if that affected us ;))

>>

>> --

>> Lou Molino, Sr.

>> FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

>> From the road some where ;)

>> (Cell Phone)

>>

>> Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>>

>> If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you

>> might

>> be a Dino.

>> Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>>

>> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

>> Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the

>> red

>> cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

>> portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic

>> were

>> white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card

>> stock.

>> When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old

>> MD3s

>> (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>>

>> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky.

>> Now,

>> I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky.

>> What a

>> long strange trip it's been.

>>

>> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big

>> thank

>> you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated

>> me

>> when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>>

>> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

>> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

>> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

>> office

>> fax

>>

>> ------------ -------- -------- -------- -------- --------

>>

>> No virus found in this incoming message.

>> Checked by AVG.

>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1431 - Release Date:

>> 5/13/2008

>> 7:55 PM

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Hey Buddy,

I remember those days of the curly haired trauma junkie, and the

basketball games in back of AMS station,

In texasems-l , Todd wrote:

>

> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College

of Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book

with the red cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a

distorted picture of a portion of a light bar. My first certication

cards for basic and medic were white, with red and blue ink, and were

on a light, perforated card stock. When I hit the streets as an EMT,

half of our monitors were the old MD3s (the mad dog monitor). Oh how

we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma

junky. Now, I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a

Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a long strange trip it's been.

>

> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a

big thank you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally

tolerated me when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> office

> fax

>

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THAT'S IT! The name had escaped me.

GG

>

> Gene - we had Kell-Pioneers 1980-82 - RTSS system (early cell phone is

> basically what it was). Is that the same thing you're thinking about?

> Don

>

> >>> <wegandy1938@wegandy> 05/15/08 3:32 AM >>>

> Along about 1982 or so, TDH got some grant money to buy medical

> communications equipment, and they came up with a hybrid system that was a

> radio/land line

> interface. I can't remember the name of it. Can anybody help?

>

> Anyway, we got this stuff through our RAC, and TDH sent some guy who

> supposedly had worked on communications on Air Force One to put it in. The

> first

> thing that happened was that the phone companies had no clue about it, nor

> were

> they interested in learning about it. In our area the phone companies were

> General Telephone (in the county seat where the transmitter/ General T

> General

> were), and in my home town where SW Bell was the provider. There was not

> only

> no communication between them, but they were hostile to each other.

>

> After months of delay and numerous visits by Mr. AFOne RadioPhone, we

> finally

> managed to get the receiver/dedicated line put in. Then the fun began.

>

> Three o'clock in the morning. I'm transporting a chest-pain patient. I

> punch in the dedicated number to Fannin County Hospital. Ringgggg,

> Ringgggggg,

> Rinnggggg, " Hello? " " Good morning, this is Honey Grove Medic 1, paramedic

> Gandy. We're 15 minutes out with a 78 year-old male with chest pain. How do

> you copy? " " Hello? " " Yes, this is HG Med 1. Is this Fannin County

> Hospital? " " Who? Who are you calling? This is Larry Smedlow in Ravenna. "

> " Oh, sorry Mr. Smedlow, our radio must have dialed the wrong number. Please

> excuse the call. " " Yhmmmph, OK, night. "

>

> I try again. This time I manually punch in the number of Fannin County

> Hospital ER, the dedicated EMS line. " Ringggggg, ringggggggggg, ringgggggg. "

> " Hnhmmmmfff, who's this? "

>

> " Er, this is Honey Grove Medic One. How do you copy? " " Who the f*** is

> this? It's f****** 3 o'clock in the morning. F*** off! "

>

> " OH, I am very sorry, sir. Please excuse the call. "

>

> By now we're pulling into the driveway at said hospital. The back door is

> locked, as it always was after 10 pm, and there's nobody in the ER. However,

> there is a big red button on the wall that you push for service. So I'm

> standing there cursing TDH, General Telephone, SW Bell, and that BOZO from

> Air

> Force ONE and my patient is groaning and moaning and for all I know TTD on

> me.

>

> Finally, after what seemed like decades, Nurse Ingrid opened the door and

> wants to know what we want. " Well, " I say, " I've got a patient here having a

> heart attack, and we thought it would be a good thing if we brought him to

> the

> hospital. " " WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL!! "

>

> " Yes ma'am, I know. We did call but kept getting a busy signal, " I lied.

>

> Next day I called Gene Weatherall and told him about the situation with our

> high-powered communications system and told him that the guy from Air Force

> One

> was a complete idiot, and to send us somebody who knew what he was doing.

>

> Whereupon Gene said, " Hey, we know he's an idiot, but he's the best idiot

> we've got, so he's your idiot too. So when are you coming to Austin? "

>

> We found out that General Telephone would randomly switch the supposedly

> dedicated line to the next customer who applied for a phone, because it

> never told

> its field guys about our system. They had no clue and didn't have any

> interest in getting one. The system worked, maybe once or twice in a year,

> but

> most of the time it was worthless.

>

> We applied for and got another grant for straight radio communications with

> the hospital and after that things were better. Somewhere, in some closet,

> the original equipment lurks.

>

> But in the meantime, one incident happened that's worth sharing. Before we

> got direct communications with the hospital we had to talk by radio to the

> sheriff's dispatcher, and he or she would relay our messages by phone to the

> ER.

> One night I was riding with the sheriff, and a call went out for a " man

> down " at the local VFW hall. We were not far away, and we got there in maybe

> 5

> mindutes. Walked in to find a man lying in the middle of the dance floor,

> with a man's jacket rolled up and placed beneath his head, insuring that his

> airway was definitely not patient. He was coded. The place was packed, but

> the

> patrons were all sitting at their tables, drinking their drinks, and nobody

> was

> doing anything for the newly deceased. The jukebox was probably playing

> or Patsy Cline. I don't remember.

>

> Sheriff and I started CPR, and soon Fannin County Ambulance showed up. Now,

> in those days we were all basics. So they came in and we got Mr. Deceased

> on the cot and started to the ambulance with him, all the time doing FIRST

> CLASS CPR.

>

> Got to the door and Mr. Deceased's arms happened to flop just before the

> door, and the EMTs were hustling the cot to the ambulance and didn't see

> this, so

> Mr. Deceased's arms caught on the door, effectively extricating him from the

> cot. Undeterred, we replaced him on the cot and got enroute to the hospital.

> Now all these EMTs were friends of mine, and we were doing the best we

> could. We thought.

>

> I got on the radio and called SO and said, " Call Fannin County and tell them

> we're enroute with a cardiac arrest. " " 10-4 " was the response.

>

> We get to the hospital and the door's locked. I am furious. I lean on the

> red bell button, and eventually a nurse shows up and opens the door and lets

> us in.

>

> After the patient was pronounced, I said, as nicely as I could, " why was the

> door locked and why weren't y'all ready for us when we got here? " She

> explained it perfectly. She said, " Gene, SO called and said y'all were

> coming with

> a prisoner who was under arrest. We couldn't get very excited about that. "

> I had no alternative but to agree.

>

> GG

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > When working with P's in New Jersey in the early 1980's I never heard of

> nor

> > saw anything like what is being called a Telecare but we DID have a

> Motorola

> > Bio-Phone and up until well the late 1990's if you were more then about 3

> > blocks ahead of the Medic unit and its repeater the sound went south FAST.

> > Since NJ is as Gene would say a " Mother May I State (more so then than

> now) we'd

> > get chewed out quite a lot by both Medics and Medical Control Docs on that

> > point as BLS Providers (as if that affected us ;))

> >

> > --

> > Lou Molino, Sr.

> > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ FF/

> > From the road some where ;)

> > (Cell Phone)

> >

> > Re: Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

> >

> > If you can identify (name all the parts in the box)a telecare box you

> might

> > be a Dino.

> > Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

> >

> > Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

> > Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

> > cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

> > portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic

> were

> > white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

> > When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

> > (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

> >

> > As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

> > I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What

> a

> > long strange trip it's been.

> >

> > I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big

> thank

> > you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

> > when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

> >

> > Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> > Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> > City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> > office

> > fax

> >

> > ------------ -------- -------- -------- -------- --------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1431 - Release Date:

> 5/13/2008

> > 7:55 PM

> >

> >

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Lots of former AMS people still around...

wrote: Hey Buddy,

I remember those days of the curly haired trauma junkie, and the

basketball games in back of AMS station,

In texasems-l , Todd wrote:

>

> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College

of Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book

with the red cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a

distorted picture of a portion of a light bar. My first certication

cards for basic and medic were white, with red and blue ink, and were

on a light, perforated card stock. When I hit the streets as an EMT,

half of our monitors were the old MD3s (the mad dog monitor). Oh how

we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma

junky. Now, I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a

Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a long strange trip it's been.

>

> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a

big thank you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally

tolerated me when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> office

> fax

>

" A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the

simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. " Proverbs 22:3

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Don got it right. Ours were Kell-Pioneers. We weren't important enough to

have Apcors. LOL.

GG

>

>

> Gene,

>

> Those were Motorola Apcor radios. The did UHF, but had a land line

> interconnect for ECG transmission.

>

> Vernon Gresham

>

> -- Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> >

>

> > Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

>

> > Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

>

> > cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

>

> > portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic

> were

>

> > white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

>

> > When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

>

> > (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> >

>

> > As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

>

> > I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What

> a

>

> > long strange trip it's been.

>

> >

>

> > I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big

> thank

>

> > you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

>

> > when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> >

>

> > Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

>

> > Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

>

> > City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

>

> > office

>

> > fax

>

> >

>

> > ------------ -------- -------- -------- -------- --------

>

> >

>

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

>

> > Checked by AVG.

>

> > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1431 - Release Date:

> 5/13/2008

>

> > 7:55 PM

>

> >

>

> >

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Gene,

Those were Motorola Apcor radios. The did UHF, but had a land line interconnect

for ECG transmission.

Vernon Gresham

-- Me too--I'm a Dino Medic

>

> Here goes--In 1981, my EMT book was the old orange American College of

> Orthopoedic Surgeons text. In 1983, we used the Caroline book with the red

> cover. I think the graphic on that cover was a distorted picture of a

> portion of a light bar. My first certication cards for basic and medic were

> white, with red and blue ink, and were on a light, perforated card stock.

> When I hit the streets as an EMT, half of our monitors were the old MD3s

> (the mad dog monitor). Oh how we loved the LP5s when they came along.

>

> As for me, I was six foot five, 195 lbs of curly haired trauma junky. Now,

> I'm the same height, 285 lbs, bald-headed and a Tylenol/Alleve junky. What a

> long strange trip it's been.

>

> I think I qualify for Dino-Medic status. I would like to extend a big thank

> you to those who taught me, partnered with me and generally tolerated me

> when I was coming up through the ranks, and since then.

>

> Todd, B.S., J.D., EMT-P, " Dino-Medic "

> Public Health Preparedness Coordinator

> City of Amarillo Dept. of Public Health

> office

> fax

>

> ------------ -------- -------- -------- -------- --------

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG.

> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1431 - Release Date: 5/13/2008

> 7:55 PM

>

>

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Well my dinoness only goes back to 1987--- I was a little late to the game

went to nursing school since that was expected--- lol-- needless to say that

didn't click--- did my first basic class and was hooked--- however even as

late as the mid 1990's a lot of counties in NC were still basic--- as they say

was doing great I had progressed as far as you could go in my system Paramedic

Crew chief, and so was ready for a little adventure which brought me to

Tx--- Now that was the big jump moved and excepted a job and new next to no one

in Tx!--- lol---- thought experience counted for something some places it

doesn't-- got slapped around hard by what was Austin city then-- big ouch!---

however you jump back on the box and go on---- BTW I don't hold one places

attitudes against the rest of ya'll!----- otherwise ya'll are different and

great

( I love the state attitude!)--- but then around 2001 had to move home due

to family, which is not bad because now I am at the beach where I always

wanted to be. But I still must shake my head and chuckle at some of my co

workers

who think being a medic for 4 years is a lot of time....

D

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