Immusist or AC Chelation to Address Heavy Metals

[Guest guest]

Good evening, all,

For those using Immusist, are you using the dye-free version?

I had a session with Payne and he recommended Immusist and AC chelation.

I am doing the two week prep for AC chelation.

1. If I wanted to do AC chelation and then follow later with Immusist, is there

a recommended delay (2 weeks, 4 weeks or what) before starting AC chelation?

2. Also, I went to the Immusist website. What are " surfactant blends " ?

3. Is AC chelation still preferred over Immusist? I have seen posts where some

state so.

4. What is the dosing schedule? How many drops initially? And what is the

ramp up schedule (after x number of days, add x number of drops per day till max

drops). What are the max drops for a child?

I am definitely going to take Immusist first for two weeks to see what

happens....

Thank you in advance,

Jerry

[Guest guest]

Jerry,

We've been using Immusist for over a year now. Being on the grassroots team

including working w/several of the docs & groups w/it here's my thoughts.

1) Since you are a patient of 's I'd recommend if possible you listen to

a copy of the recent webinar he just did. He had 4 approx 1 hour sessions, ALL

EXCELLENT!!! The one that I recommend 1st & formost to help you understand this

some is the last day (Thursdays-the 4th webinar). He mentioned Immusist multiple

times because of the many good things it helps with the body. Because it is both

immune support & organ support on a cellular basis he considers it a basic

to assisting cellular health (minerals & Immusist were the 2 things he spoke

about multiple times). I have also been told that he was just a presenter in

Florida w/over 400 doctors....he labled it a basic in " Surfactant Therapies " .

In regards to which one, I recommend for our kids the clean " Natural " product.

When we started we only had the choice of the original, & had to use it w/the

stuff I try to avoid. Across the board our group has used up the original & now

purchased/switched to the Natural that is now available.

Knowing & having done chelation, I would personally recommend because of the

organ support that the surfactants provide starting the Immusist 1st, then move

toward AC chelation next. It is my opinion that those that have you start AC

chelation 1st, don't understand the organ/cellular level support that the

surfactants give the body. My best advise, since you are a patient is to confirm

this w/. I also advise you to confirm the starting & ramp-up dosing that

he recommends for you....he knows this stuff better than anyone!!!! I'm very

experienced in the Biomed rehelm after 7 years on the board, having been to

multiple high level conferences & having seen some increadible docs....he's at

the top of the list of people I trust... & has researched Immusist to the point

of speaking before high level think-tanks about it.

Immusist is a combination of 80 edible surfactants that are chosen for their

benefitial properties to the body. Their main job is to hydrate, oxygenate &

reduce the surfact tension of the cells. What are surfactants? I have some good

info already put up to further educate on this....more info can be found on

messages #112416,

message #112612 has dosages & ramp-up advise....I copied part of it for you

here:

" Dosage (from post #112143)

• Generally pretty healthy adult: 16 drops a day

• Slight immune challenged (colds/flu 2-3+ times a year or other slight immune

concerns): 16 drops 2x a day

• Significant immune challenged (All auto-immune related issues): 16 drops 3x a

day.

• Most Children are at 1/2 doses

• What I'm experiencing with ASD....because of the toxic nature we are

experiencing a case-by-case basis but basically most are starting @ 3 drops 2x a

day & watching/modifying as needed.

Optimum dosage that you'll work toward is as stated above, that would be

children @ 8 drops once or twice a day. "

" When I recently started the RN from my husbands surgery's son (5yo ASD

non-verbal that had done some basic DAN stuff like diet, basic vits &

anti-fungals) she did:

2 drops 1x day for 3 days; then bumped up to

2 drops 2x day am+pm; after 1 week she bumped up to

3 drops 2x day am+pm; she intends to bump up again in about a week to 4 drops 2x

day am+pm. "

Start slow & work up....basically, the more toxic the child the slower I'd go.

My son 13 had been through 7 successful years of Biomed including successful

chelation w/supperior docs...he started on 5 & is now on 10 drops 2x a day. I

have not had any WOW moments...but have seen slow steady progress (he just

showed us his report card....this year he's advanced to regular ed Language Art

(7th grade)...he's been doing nouns/pronouns/adjectives/adverbs/etc at grade

level & just brought home an A- (whoooo!!! this is the kid the UW said would

probably never read...way to go BioMeds!!!!)....In fact, very proud here....he

brought home a 3.8 GPA, mainly regular ed!! Two years ago I was happy he finally

brought home a C & was proud of that....can't believe how much more they get

w/extra some oxygen to the cell!!!

You taking Immusist is a good thing....I know many, many moms & dad (including

us) that are doing better on it as well ). I know many that have been able to

reduce or eliminate stuff they are taking that their bodies no longer need as

their bodies heal. I also personally sleep better now as well....though I still

have to do better about getting to bed earlier, just not enough time in the

day....

There are several things I am working on, one is a taped phone interview with

him about Immusist as he has researched it & has some fantastic information we

could all learn from. I spoke w/him at length about it & can't wait to put it up

for the groups to learn furhter too. I'll let the group know as it is done &

ready to be posted up.

As the body naturally chelates, the AC chelation will come behind & help mop up

the bodies natural metals dump. My son is personally dumping both mercury &

arsenic at levels higher than when I actively chelated all by just helping the

cells work better w/Immusist. I speak about how important binders are in the

prior posts...do an advanced search in this group using key words like

" surfactant chelation " ....you'll see some good info to help to inform you

further. Do not hesitate.... & please pass back the info for all of us to

learn....to ask what he would recommend for Your Child...he will

individualize it for you....that's worth A LOT!!!!

Blessings,

Rita

>

> Good evening, all,

>

> For those using Immusist, are you using the dye-free version?

>

> I had a session with Payne and he recommended Immusist and AC

chelation. I am doing the two week prep for AC chelation.

>

> 1. If I wanted to do AC chelation and then follow later with Immusist, is

there a recommended delay (2 weeks, 4 weeks or what) before starting AC

chelation?

>

> 2. Also, I went to the Immusist website. What are " surfactant blends " ?

>

> 3. Is AC chelation still preferred over Immusist? I have seen posts where

some state so.

>

> 4. What is the dosing schedule? How many drops initially? And what is the

ramp up schedule (after x number of days, add x number of drops per day till max

drops). What are the max drops for a child?

>

> I am definitely going to take Immusist first for two weeks to see what

happens....

>

> Thank you in advance,

>

> Jerry

>

[Guest guest]

i can only tell you what happened with my kid. AC chelation got my kid sleeping thru the night...stopped his violent behavior self injury ect i could go on with all the gains...after a year of AC chelation I can only say good things about it...but still language was always slow to come...

Immusist got my son an explosion of language where we had been stuck for a year with minimum progress..

i been using immusist i believe a couple months....we are havin some negatives but i believe it is because he is dumping stuff and i didnt have binders on board....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 11:34 PMSubject: Immusist or AC Chelation to Address Heavy Metals

Good evening, all,For those using Immusist, are you using the dye-free version?I had a session with Payne and he recommended Immusist and AC chelation. I am doing the two week prep for AC chelation.1. If I wanted to do AC chelation and then follow later with Immusist, is there a recommended delay (2 weeks, 4 weeks or what) before starting AC chelation?2. Also, I went to the Immusist website. What are "surfactant blends"?3. Is AC chelation still preferred over Immusist? I have seen posts where some state so.4. What is the dosing schedule? How many drops initially? And what is the ramp up schedule (after x number of days, add x number of drops per day till max drops). What are the max drops for a child?I am definitely going to take Immusist first for two weeks to see what happens....Thank you in advance,Jerry

[Guest guest]

Good evening, Rita and Channa,

Thank you for your inputs.

I will definitely start Immusist.

Thank you again,

Jerry

>

> Good evening, all,

>

> For those using Immusist, are you using the dye-free version?

>

> I had a session with Payne and he recommended Immusist and AC

chelation. I am doing the two week prep for AC chelation.

>

> 1. If I wanted to do AC chelation and then follow later with Immusist, is

there a recommended delay (2 weeks, 4 weeks or what) before starting AC

chelation?

>

> 2. Also, I went to the Immusist website. What are " surfactant blends " ?

>

> 3. Is AC chelation still preferred over Immusist? I have seen posts where

some state so.

>

> 4. What is the dosing schedule? How many drops initially? And what is the

ramp up schedule (after x number of days, add x number of drops per day till max

drops). What are the max drops for a child?

>

> I am definitely going to take Immusist first for two weeks to see what

happens....

>

> Thank you in advance,

>

> Jerry

>

[Guest guest]

Never did Immusist.AC chelation got my son eating more foods and he no longer needed a diaper at night. (For the loss of diapers alone it was worth every sleepless night.)

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i can only tell you what happened with my kid. AC chelation got my kid sleeping thru the night...stopped his violent behavior self injury ect i could go on with all the gains...after a year of AC chelation I can only say good things about it...but still language was always slow to come...

Immusist got my son an explosion of language where we had been stuck for a year with minimum progress..

i been using immusist i believe a couple months....we are havin some negatives but i believe it is because he is dumping stuff and i didnt have binders on board....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 11:34 PMSubject: Immusist or AC Chelation to Address Heavy Metals

Good evening, all,For those using Immusist, are you using the dye-free version?I had a session with Payne and he recommended Immusist and AC chelation. I am doing the two week prep for AC chelation.1. If I wanted to do AC chelation and then follow later with Immusist, is there a recommended delay (2 weeks, 4 weeks or what) before starting AC chelation?2. Also, I went to the Immusist website. What are "surfactant blends"?3. Is AC chelation still preferred over Immusist? I have seen posts where some state so.4. What is the dosing schedule? How many drops initially? And what is the ramp up schedule (after x number of days, add x number of drops per day till max drops). What are the max drops for a child?I am definitely going to take Immusist first for two weeks to see what happens....Thank you in advance,Jerry