Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information.Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal.So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins.My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help.Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out.Here are the two articles:http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.htmlhttp://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdfCathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a big deal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information. Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal. So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins. My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help. Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out. Here are the two articles: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.html http://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdf Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a bigdeal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information.Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal.So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins.My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help.Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out.Here are the two articles:http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.htmlhttp://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdfCathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 We saw unbelievable improvements in the first 2 days. It has been almost 2 years since we started and my son still gets aggressive with apple, grapes, and strawberries. We have been able to add in other high salicylate items in small quantities. Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a big deal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information. Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal. So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins. My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help. Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out. Here are the two articles: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.html http://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdf Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Cassie,It is the salicates that are eliminated in Stage 1, I think. Go for it.I tried everything I could when I was working on . And that was my key to success. It if didn't work or was too expensive for the gains, we dropped it but we learned something about his issues every time we tried a new diet or supplement or therapy. It does adds up after awhile.sally From: "cmateos2@..." To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Feingold diet Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a big deal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information. Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal. So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins. My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help. Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out. Here are the two articles: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.html http://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdf Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 How long did it take u for him to be recovered, and at what age did he recover? What did u try?CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:23:39 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet Cassie,It is the salicates that are eliminated in Stage 1, I think. Go for it.I tried everything I could when I was working on . And that was my key to success. It if didn't work or was too expensive for the gains, we dropped it but we learned something about his issues every time we tried a new diet or supplement or therapy. It does adds up after awhile.sally From:"cmateos2@..." To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Feingold diet Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a bigdeal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information.Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal.So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins.My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help.Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out.Here are the two articles:http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.htmlhttp://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdfCathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I saw improvements in a week but FG literature says stick with it 6 weeks before doing stage 2.Stage 2 is when you add stuff back. Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates. Cassie--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 The first thing we did years ago for our daughter was a low salicylate diet. Within 48 hours she went from waking 5-15 times a night screaming to just waking 1-3 times a night. Her daytime hyperactivity and aggressive episodes reduced within a few days, significantly over a few weeks. We found over the next couple of years that she was extremely sensitive to both salicylates and oxalates. Salicylates would cause hyperactivity, aggression, and high pitched screaming with transitions or difficult challenges followed by a meltdown. Oxalates generally brought crying fits, fatigue, general intolerance to life. We went down to an extremely limited diet and could tell very clearly when she had gotten a salicylate. When free of salicylates, she improved in all aspects of mood regulation. We also found her to be very sensitive to GMO's and to manufactured foods, with similar reactions (likely the chemicals and lubricants used in processing in the case of manufactured foods). After our 2 years of very limited diet, we grew weary of the limitations and were still facing issues suggestive of viruses and parasites, and mineral depletion. I had long thought it interesting that Mia did well when we essentially limited her diet to things that did not upset parasites. So we started a parasite treatment with Wormwood, adding in Breakstone and Milk Thistle to support the kidneys and liver. Immediately her tactile sensitivity improved- along with many neurological issues. Several months later we did a more comprehensive parasite cleanse with Humaworm, which I've written a lot about. Long story short, if your child does show benefit from the Feingold or any low salicylate diet, this points directly to parasite issues and I highly recommend saving years of pain and heading straight to treating parasites. > > > ** > > > > > > ** Did u see improvements right away? > > I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and > > hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks > > when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates. > > Cassie > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals: > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet : > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 > ------ > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 My son does have a limited diet also. What kinds of foods does your daughter eat? Just for an idea.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:39:12 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet The first thing we did years ago for our daughter was a low salicylate diet. Within 48 hours she went from waking 5-15 times a night screaming to just waking 1-3 times a night. Her daytime hyperactivity and aggressive episodes reduced within a few days, significantly over a few weeks. We found over the next couple of years that she was extremely sensitive to both salicylates and oxalates. Salicylates would cause hyperactivity, aggression, and high pitched screaming with transitions or difficult challenges followed by a meltdown. Oxalates generally brought crying fits, fatigue, general intolerance to life. We went down to an extremely limited diet and could tell very clearly when she had gotten a salicylate. When free of salicylates, she improved in all aspects of mood regulation. We also found her to be very sensitive to GMO's and to manufactured foods, with similar reactions (likely the chemicals and lubricants used in processing in the case of manufactured foods).After our 2 years of very limited diet, we grew weary of the limitations and were still facing issues suggestive of viruses and parasites, and mineral depletion. I had long thought it interesting that Mia did well when we essentially limited her diet to things that did not upset parasites. So we started a parasite treatment with Wormwood, adding in Breakstone and Milk Thistle to support the kidneys and liver. Immediately her tactile sensitivity improved- along with many neurological issues. Several months later we did a more comprehensive parasite cleanse with Humaworm, which I've written a lot about. Long story short, if your child does show benefit from the Feingold or any low salicylate diet, this points directly to parasite issues and I highly recommend saving years of pain and heading straight to treating parasites. > > > **> >> >> > ** Did u see improvements right away?> > I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and> > hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks> > when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.> > Cassie> >> ----------------------------------------------------------> Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565> ----------------------------------------------------------> Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565> ------> Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 We started working on him when he was 16 and he recovered at 22. That said, he still has issues that are the result of not being mentally present for school (and life) for 20 years. But it beats still having all those issues. He is much happier and we see a day on the horizon when he will have caught up.We tried a lot of stuff although, the vitamins were probably the biggest. I have detailed much of it at http://survivingtheautismspectrum.blogspot.com/sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Feingold diet How long did it take u for him to be recovered, and at what age did he recover? What did u try?CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:23:39 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet Cassie,It is the salicates that are eliminated in Stage 1, I think. Go for it.I tried everything I could when I was working on . And that was my key to success. It if didn't work or was too expensive for the gains, we dropped it but we learned something about his issues every time we tried a new diet or supplement or therapy. It does adds up after awhile.sally From: "cmateos2@..." To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Feingold diet Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a big deal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information. Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal. So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins. My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help. Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out. Here are the two articles: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.html http://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdf Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Sally, Thank you. Every now and then I let that seed of doubt enter my brain. Stories like yours keep me going. xoxox -Tammy Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 We ate a LOT of pinto beans. I mean, at least once a day. We ate tinkyada organic rice pasta often also. Organic sesame seed oil (reacted to grapeseed and olive), sometimes ghee, but reactions there also. We added in coconut oil to great affect. Green beans seemed safe. Also orange or yellow bell peppers (although the texture bothered Mia- I would chop them up finely and cook in a lot of salt and oil and add as a sauce on top of beans). We made sushi with rice and thinly sliced green beans, and occasionally avacodo, although the sushi wrappers and avacado caused some hyperactivity. We also did spring rolls when we could find rice paper wrappers (tapioca starch or bean wrappers caused reactions). I would make a peanut sauce with tahini, rice syrup, and coconut aminos. Or we used coconut aminos plain as a 'soy sauce'. We made a lot of soups with cabbage, green beans (sauteed until some are a little browned for flavor), water, rice, rice vinegar (just a tablespoon for acidity), rice syrup, salt, maybe coconut aminos, maybe some pintos added in. Our essentially beans and rice diet favored yeast, which was an issue, but it quieted all of the other reactions, so was a great help. Every morning we had a shake made with coconut oil, tahini, rice syrup, glutamine powder, Inner Eco coconut kefir, and So Delicious coconut milk (blend everything but coconut milk first, slowly add in coconut milk while blending- this keeps the warm oils and cold milk from separating). Tahini is high in oxalates, but also high in zinc (zinc in intestines deters parasites). The coconut milk has added vitamins (and Vit. A Palmitate, which we were directed to avoid), and we saw reactions to it if she drank more than the 1/2 cup or so in the shake (or if she had treats of tahini and rice syrup more than once a day)- but it and the tahini (just a TBSP or so per shake) seemed to go over really well and these shakes were our best breakfast ever- they really helped all of our girls put a little weight on when they were so thin. We did find one corn chip that the girls did not react to. Not that I was dying to give them corn, it was just great to find one thing that I did not have to make and that could be a grab and go snack. The brand is Que Pasa. They use non GMO corn but also non GMO oil, which we didn't find in any other brand. The girls reacted horribly to any other manufactured GF snacks, especially rice crackers and rice cakes. . . NOW, after focusing on parasite cleansing, our diet has really opened up. We had this week chili, pancakes, blueberry cake, chicken pot pie, chard and mushroom quiche. . . . (all homemade, GFCF). We also did a full round of NAET after the first parasite cleanse to reset the nervous system and found it to be very beneficial- our diet had opened up before the NAET, but afterwards it was a true windfall. We had cornucopia meals, trying several things at once- a real joy after our years of pinto beans. Now, when Mia doesn't want to take a supplement, I ask her " Do you want to go back to eating pinto beans? " All that being said, we still haven't gotten rid of ascaris (microscopic roundworm), and reactions peak especially during egg laying cycles. > > My son does have a limited diet also. What kinds of foods does your daughter eat? Just for an idea. > Cassie > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Omg that's what happens to my son! Apples, grapes, strawberries, chocolate, and this past weekend when he drank some diet coke.Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:17:34 -0600To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We saw unbelievable improvements in the first 2 days. It has been almost 2 years since we started and my son still gets aggressive with apple, grapes, and strawberries. We have been able to add in other high salicylate items in small quantities. Did u see improvements right away? I'm wondering if I should give it a try since my son gets aggressive and hyper when he eats apple, grapes, chocolate, and diet soda (which he sneaks when we aren't looking) and I noticed they all have salicates.CassieSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Feingold diet We have been on the Feingold Diet. It is actually in two stages; the first removes oxalates as well, I believe, then the second is just all additives and artificial food coloring, etc.It is just a wonderful general diet for everyone. It does not eliminate high fructose corn syrup or GMO foods, I don't think, but people are always encouraged to change their diet beyond Feingold to what works best.Go to their website and enroll; they send you all the info including a book with recommended foods/brands, etc.My husband does all the food shopping and it was daunting the first couple times but then he got the hang of it and it was not a big deal.Even though my son has recovered, we pretty much live my it still. It is just common sense once you get used to it. Why put junk in our bodies; we will pay one way or another.sally To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Feingold diet Does anyone follow the feingold diet? I would love some info about it pls!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:28:58 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Interesting info on Yucca It is funny how I can search for information and not find anything and then I try again a little differently and hit upon a wealth of information. Anyway, yucca gets discussed here as something that can help lower ammonia in the body. I have heard some recommendations say that it should be given with high protein meals (because the breakdown of protein produces ammonia) and some just recommend taking capsules during the day without specifying with a protein meal. So I was researching to try to figure out if it only worked on ammonia in the digestive system or if it worked in the bloodstream as well. I can't say that I got an exact answer because the first short article I will link says it is the saponins that bind the ammonia and saponins don't leave the digestive system. However, the second article says the mode of action on yucca reducing air ammonia levels (when yucca is given to livestock) is not known, but it is not believed to be the saponins. My conclusion was to try to give it when protein meals are eaten, but if I don't give it at that time, to still give it during the day because there still may be ammonia in the digestive system and/or there may be another mode of action which will still help. Anyway, with all the talk about Immusist being a propietary surfactant product, I thought some of you might be interested in knowing that yucca is also a surfactant, is antiprotozoal, and has blood cholesterol lowering properties. The one thing that jumped out at me as possibly not being good is that the quillaja (soapbark tree) saponins can increase gut mucuosal permeability, but I don't know if that is true of yucca saponins. It won't stop me from using it, but I wanted to point it out. Here are the two articles: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/sp-su98/saponins.html http://www.asas.org/symposia/9899proc/0909.pdf Cathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 FG stage 1 does not restrict HFCS but some people need to remove that as well --- we did that anyway asa good idea. My kids still have it occasionally when we cannot find a suitable replacement. I prefer to give them HFCS to artificial sweetener but either stinks. :-( Omg that's what happens to my son! Apples, grapes, strawberries, chocolate, and this past weekend when he drank some diet coke.Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Tony check this : http://www.naturesflavors.com/index.php/syrups/xylitol-syrups/xylitol-flavor-syrups.html maybe you can give a try. Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thank you :-) Tony check this : http://www.naturesflavors.com/index.php/syrups/xylitol-syrups/xylitol-flavor-syrups.html maybe you can give a try. Grace -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 You probably already know all of this, and possibly more, and I promise I am not shunning, just thinking out loud- -on top of the issue of glycemic index, the HFCS is difficult because it is from GMO corn (has pesticide in it), and can have mercury from the processing of it. These are the main issues, right? And diet coke- is that sweetened with Aspertame? This is an excitotoxin which aggravates the overstimulated microglia in our kids' immune stimulated brains, right? Also, of interest, unless a product lists sugar as 'organic', it is most likely not produced from cane, but rather from GMO sugar beets, which have pesticides in every cell. . . I promise, promise I am not griping, just refreshing my info/thoughts. We have been sugar free in any form (excpeting rice syrup, which has its issues, and recently maple syrup, which also has its issues) for so long now, I forget the details but get asked a lot. > > > ** > > > > > > ** Omg that's what happens to my son! Apples, grapes, strawberries, > > chocolate, and this past weekend when he drank some diet coke. > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals: > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------ > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet : > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 > ------ > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 that funny melissa, becuase after all the years of searching for the perfect diet for my son...i found he with his sensitve gut did really good with beans....for a while we ate beans meat veggies and that was it...i was surprised as beans are spose to be hard to digest according to some nutritionists To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:24 AMSubject: Re: Feingold diet We ate a LOT of pinto beans. I mean, at least once a day. We ate tinkyada organic rice pasta often also. Organic sesame seed oil (reacted to grapeseed and olive), sometimes ghee, but reactions there also. We added in coconut oil to great affect. Green beans seemed safe. Also orange or yellow bell peppers (although the texture bothered Mia- I would chop them up finely and cook in a lot of salt and oil and add as a sauce on top of beans). We made sushi with rice and thinly sliced green beans, and occasionally avacodo, although the sushi wrappers and avacado caused some hyperactivity. We also did spring rolls when we could find rice paper wrappers (tapioca starch or bean wrappers caused reactions). I would make a peanut sauce with tahini, rice syrup, and coconut aminos. Or we used coconut aminos plain as a 'soy sauce'. We made a lot of soups with cabbage, green beans (sauteed until some are a little browned for flavor), water, rice, rice vinegar (just a tablespoon for acidity), rice syrup, salt, maybe coconut aminos, maybe some pintos added in. Our essentially beans and rice diet favored yeast, which was an issue, but it quieted all of the other reactions, so was a great help.Every morning we had a shake made with coconut oil, tahini, rice syrup, glutamine powder, Inner Eco coconut kefir, and So Delicious coconut milk (blend everything but coconut milk first, slowly add in coconut milk while blending- this keeps the warm oils and cold milk from separating). Tahini is high in oxalates, but also high in zinc (zinc in intestines deters parasites). The coconut milk has added vitamins (and Vit. A Palmitate, which we were directed to avoid), and we saw reactions to it if she drank more than the 1/2 cup or so in the shake (or if she had treats of tahini and rice syrup more than once a day)- but it and the tahini (just a TBSP or so per shake) seemed to go over really well and these shakes were our best breakfast ever- they really helped all of our girls put a little weight on when they were so thin.We did find one corn chip that the girls did not react to. Not that I was dying to give them corn, it was just great to find one thing that I did not have to make and that could be a grab and go snack. The brand is Que Pasa. They use non GMO corn but also non GMO oil, which we didn't find in any other brand. The girls reacted horribly to any other manufactured GF snacks, especially rice crackers and rice cakes. . . NOW, after focusing on parasite cleansing, our diet has really opened up. We had this week chili, pancakes, blueberry cake, chicken pot pie, chard and mushroom quiche. . . . (all homemade, GFCF). We also did a full round of NAET after the first parasite cleanse to reset the nervous system and found it to be very beneficial- our diet had opened up before the NAET, but afterwards it was a true windfall. We had cornucopia meals, trying several things at once- a real joy after our years of pinto beans. Now, when Mia doesn't want to take a supplement, I ask her "Do you want to go back to eating pinto beans?" :)All that being said, we still haven't gotten rid of ascaris (microscopic roundworm), and reactions peak especially during egg laying cycles. >> My son does have a limited diet also. What kinds of foods does your daughter eat? Just for an idea.> Cassie> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Welcome! To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 5:39 PMSubject: Re: Feingold diet Thank you :-) Tony check this : http://www.naturesflavors.com/index.php/syrups/xylitol-syrups/xylitol-flavor-syrups.html maybe you can give a try. Grace -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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