LDM-100: Does it kill bad bacteria and good bacteria? Or just bad bacteria?

[Guest guest]

Good afternoon, all,

I just received my son's comprehensive stool analysis back. Nothing in

Dysbiotic Flora category. However, I am not liking the Commensal Imbalanced

Flora.

Beneficial Flora

4+ Bacteroides fragilis group

4+ Bifidobacterium spp.

4+ Escherichia coli

2+ Lactobacillus spp.

1+ Enterococcus spp.

1+ Clostridium spp.

Commensal (Imbalanced flora)

1+ Alpha hemolytic strep

1+ Beta strep, group B

4+ Hemolytic Escherichia coli

1+ Staphylococcus aureus

If I use LDM-100, will it kill good bacteria as well as bad bacteria?

The Hemolytic Escherichia coli is new. We have never seen this CSAs of the

past.

Any recommendations to combat? Is LDM-100 strong enough?

Do I need to go the antibiotic route?

Thank you for the opinions/advice in advance,

Jerry

[Guest guest]

Jerry,

LDM-100 does not kill the good bacteria like antibiotics. As a natural it is

also an anti-fungal as well as a anti-bacterial & anti-viral. As a natural the

body also just knows better what to do with it.

We have seen the body cycle into some of the surpressed bacterias as the

biofilms are broken up & the body detoxes....a good example of this is in the

Zyto spreadsheet in the files (actually Immusist has some of these same

properties....the body cycles into things that it previously surpressed... & yes,

Immusist is also a biofilm buster...I spoke w/someone in our docs office that

was very stagnant on other biofilm protocols & she broke through to biofilm

detox w/i short time on the Immusist..she told me about it herself as we visited

about her personal experience herself as we were waiting in the waiting room).

You can go to this groups Files to see some of the bad bacteria cycle in to

detox & the LDM-100 work through it. If you are in fact breaking through Biofilm

into a detox mode there have been times our group has ended up bringing other

things on-board to help the body w/detox...at times even antibiotics, this is

especially true of hard cases like high strep.

I'm short on time right now so I hope you forgive....I'm just going to copy 2

things that I think are interesting along these lines....both these are from

answers to some off-list e-mails I've been working with recently....sorry for

the jeapardy as I'm only passing you my answer, but you'll get the drift...

" w/her son Strep has been a big issue, he ended up on 6 weeks of antibiotics for

it (here's where the PANDA's part of our groups use comes in) & 2 months ago had

to have his very swollen tonsils+A out (they were swollen to the point of taking

up 1/2 his throat area). With the PANDA's ( & the kick up as the body tries to

deal with the strep...aggression is her #1 bigg issue at this point.....I have

to say here he was 3, non-verbal & very difficult when I met him....at this

point 1 year later on Immusist he's verbal & doing much better cognitively &

behaviourally, though when the OCD /strep kicks up he can have his aggressive

moments....but overall, he's doing SOOOO much better with the Biomedical

intervention. His base protocol for a year is Immusist, NDF+, vits/minerals,

diet....to that Monolauren (anti-viral...her son does not muscle test/ART test

well yet for it..I think w/the strep the LDM-100 detox would be to much for him

to still detox right now...after the T & A surgury he's being kept on antibiotics

for at least 6 weeks to further help the strep...he's currently towards the end

of the 6 weeks & is doing strep & aggression better....sometimes it's not what

you're taking per say...it just may be what the body has cycled to in it's

detox...). "

Also:

" use the LDM-100 topically...our doc actually had some that were not ready for a

full out oral dosing doing 1 drop in the bellybutton ...this will prepare his

body for it. As the binders stabalize him, I'd try that 1st. Also, add a drop of

LDM-100 w/a drop of Immusist to his toothbrush to brush his teeth (I'm finding

this not only kills bacteria but it's also whitening our teeth ;o).

In regards to the Hemolytic Escherichia coli (E. coli)...this could be a couple

of things including something he recently ate....from wiki (ps...I found the vit

K info interesting...):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli

My thoughts/opinion:

1) Immusist may also help as our group is having good digestive improvements

(it's been a big help, especially w/1 of our WA groups leaky gut...his lab just

came back from 9mo ago he " had the worst leaky gut one of our docs had ever

seen " to just a few foods...has blown all of us away.

2) Good bacteria fights bad bacteria...ie...adding a little more of the good

bacteria like probiotics to not only build the good but also fight the

bad....enzymes may help further w/this as well...though enzymes could further

break down biofilm further stirring up bad bacteria which would call for more

binders to control the detox....

Sorry for the walk around w/o a lot of solid answers...a lot of help I've

been...just walking you around the block & back....kinda like a treadmill...walk

a lot but don't get far...just thinking out loud of all the things my mind goes

through w/puzzles like this....

Blessings,

Rita

>

> Good afternoon, all,

>

> I just received my son's comprehensive stool analysis back. Nothing in

Dysbiotic Flora category. However, I am not liking the Commensal Imbalanced

Flora.

>

> Beneficial Flora

> 4+ Bacteroides fragilis group

> 4+ Bifidobacterium spp.

> 4+ Escherichia coli

> 2+ Lactobacillus spp.

> 1+ Enterococcus spp.

> 1+ Clostridium spp.

>

>

> Commensal (Imbalanced flora)

> 1+ Alpha hemolytic strep

> 1+ Beta strep, group B

> 4+ Hemolytic Escherichia coli

> 1+ Staphylococcus aureus

>

> If I use LDM-100, will it kill good bacteria as well as bad bacteria?

>

> The Hemolytic Escherichia coli is new. We have never seen this CSAs of the

past.

>

> Any recommendations to combat? Is LDM-100 strong enough?

> Do I need to go the antibiotic route?

>

> Thank you for the opinions/advice in advance,

>

> Jerry

>

[Guest guest]

Good afternoon, Rita,

Perfect!!!!

I have read where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with my

son.

I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed in

the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or

IMMUSIST?

Just want to be certain.

" List of Binders -Repost of message #112878 "

Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!

Jerry

> >

> > Good afternoon, all,

> >

> > I just received my son's comprehensive stool analysis back. Nothing in

Dysbiotic Flora category. However, I am not liking the Commensal Imbalanced

Flora.

> >

> > Beneficial Flora

> > 4+ Bacteroides fragilis group

> > 4+ Bifidobacterium spp.

> > 4+ Escherichia coli

> > 2+ Lactobacillus spp.

> > 1+ Enterococcus spp.

> > 1+ Clostridium spp.

> >

> >

> > Commensal (Imbalanced flora)

> > 1+ Alpha hemolytic strep

> > 1+ Beta strep, group B

> > 4+ Hemolytic Escherichia coli

> > 1+ Staphylococcus aureus

> >

> > If I use LDM-100, will it kill good bacteria as well as bad bacteria?

> >

> > The Hemolytic Escherichia coli is new. We have never seen this CSAs of the

past.

> >

> > Any recommendations to combat? Is LDM-100 strong enough?

> > Do I need to go the antibiotic route?

> >

> > Thank you for the opinions/advice in advance,

> >

> > Jerry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

rita,

great post....love when you think out loud helps me think too

channa

bacteria which would call for more binders to control the detox....Sorry for the walk around w/o a lot of solid answers...a lot of help I've been...just walking you around the block & back....kinda like a treadmill...walk a lot but don't get far...just thinking out loud of all the things my mind goes through w/puzzles like this....Blessings,Rita

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:54 AMSubject: Re: LDM-100: Does it kill bad bacteria and good bacteria? Or just bad bacteria?

..

[Guest guest]

Jerry,

We've used many different binders in the past....our docs taught us binders

early on...it has been a breakthrough for many & very important. I LOVE ART

muscle testing (Dr Klinghardt's)...as you get to know it you'll see those highly

trained in it put the protocols together.....1st the stresses then looks for the

right balance of killer to binder then tests the whole thing together to see how

it works together....the Zyto does the same thing. As you learn this binder

thing your mom-o-meter kicks in...you start thinking about things...you're

intuition ( & for us prayer) comes to your aid ( & many times a great group like

this too) then the light bulb comes on....and ahhhh..the pieces start fitting

together better. As several posts have recently mentioned, behaviour itself

comes from the layer you are cycling.

When we were doing heavy detox (like chelating & LED detox) the heavy hitters

like charcoal was a must. We also used the Pectasol during these times as well.

Mainly we now use the lighter ones that also alkalize & provide minerals...for

us right now it's Alfalfa & Chlorella (a high quality especially no

pestisides...I won't go for the cheap ones on this item...I will for many other

things, but not things like Chlorella or Alginates....btw, NICE FIND Channa...I

LIKE the one you found!!!! The reason why is because these plants by nature mop

up toxins so unless they are good/pure you could be putting more bad into the

body). For us right now we are in a spot where he's good w/the amount of binding

we have on board & the extra minerals & alkalization becomes a good benefit.

So to answer your ?...it depends on your child & what they dump w/their

detox....generally yes. The binders list separated out some of the metal binding

ones. If your detox dumps metals (which many do when killing viruses & bacterias

dump metals...again, see Stans paper on the cycling...we've very much found this

paper to be right on!!). When dumping metals yeast always kicks up for us....

If you're dumping a lot a stronger binder is needed, if not, something more

gentle that provides more than just binding is probably enough. (hope this makes

sence....)

My suggestion, start one at a time ( & give plenty of room between starting

them... & start w/the Immusist because of the organ support)....put your

mom-o-meter on high & watch to see if they need binders added...some have, some

don't...all depends on the child. Report back....we'll be here if you need us...

HTH's

Blessings!

Rita

>

> Good afternoon, Rita,

>

> Perfect!!!!

>

> I have read where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with my

son.

>

> I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed in

the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or

IMMUSIST?

>

> Just want to be certain.

>

> " List of Binders -Repost of message #112878 "

>

> Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!

>

> Jerry

[Guest guest]

Just want to quickly add: take the advice of buying quality alfalfa. Monsanto is now producing a GMO version. (The last thing our kids need) Rita, do you recommend a specific brand?

-Tammy

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Sent: Fri Feb 10 17:59:44 EST 2012

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: LDM-100: Does it kill bad bacteria and good bacteria? Or just bad bacteria?

Jerry,

We've used many different binders in the past....our docs taught us binders early on...it has been a breakthrough for many & very important. I LOVE ART muscle testing (Dr Klinghardt's)...as you get to know it you'll see those highly trained in it put the protocols together.....1st the stresses then looks for the right balance of killer to binder then tests the whole thing together to see how it works together....the Zyto does the same thing. As you learn this binder thing your mom-o-meter kicks in...you start thinking about things...you're intuition ( & for us prayer) comes to your aid ( & many times a great group like this too) then the light bulb comes on....and ahhhh..the pieces start fitting together better. As several posts have recently mentioned, behaviour itself comes from the layer you are cycling.

When we were doing heavy detox (like chelating & LED detox) the heavy hitters like charcoal was a must. We also used the Pectasol during these times as well.

Mainly we now use the lighter ones that also alkalize & provide minerals...for us right now it's Alfalfa & Chlorella (a high quality especially no pestisides...I won't go for the cheap ones on this item...I will for many other things, but not things like Chlorella or Alginates....btw, NICE FIND Channa...I LIKE the one you found!!!! The reason why is because these plants by nature mop up toxins so unless they are good/pure you could be putting more bad into the body). For us right now we are in a spot where he's good w/the amount of binding we have on board & the extra minerals & alkalization becomes a good benefit.

So to answer your ?...it depends on your child & what they dump w/their detox....generally yes. The binders list separated out some of the metal binding ones. If your detox dumps metals (which many do when killing viruses & bacterias dump metals...again, see Stans paper on the cycling...we've very much found this paper to be right on!!). When dumping metals yeast always kicks up for us....

If you're dumping a lot a stronger binder is needed, if not, something more gentle that provides more than just binding is probably enough. (hope this makes sence....)

My suggestion, start one at a time ( & give plenty of room between starting them... & start w/the Immusist because of the organ support)....put your mom-o-meter on high & watch to see if they need binders added...some have, some don't...all depends on the child. Report back....we'll be here if you need us...

HTH's

Blessings!

Rita

>

> Good afternoon, Rita,

>

> Perfect!!!!

>

> I have read where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with my son.

>

> I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed in the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or IMMUSIST?

>

> Just want to be certain.

>

> " List of Binders -Repost of message #112878 "

>

> Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!

>

> Jerry

[Guest guest]

actually tammy found it...when we were all lookin for clean vitamin C:)

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:59 PMSubject: Re: LDM-100: Does it kill bad bacteria and good bacteria? Or just bad bacteria?

Jerry,We've used many different binders in the past....our docs taught us binders early on...it has been a breakthrough for many & very important. I LOVE ART muscle testing (Dr Klinghardt's)...as you get to know it you'll see those highly trained in it put the protocols together.....1st the stresses then looks for the right balance of killer to binder then tests the whole thing together to see how it works together....the Zyto does the same thing. As you learn this binder thing your mom-o-meter kicks in...you start thinking about things...you're intuition ( & for us prayer) comes to your aid ( & many times a great group like this too) then the light bulb comes on....and ahhhh..the pieces start fitting together better. As several posts have recently mentioned, behaviour itself comes from the layer you are cycling.When we were doing heavy detox (like chelating & LED detox) the heavy hitters like charcoal was a must. We also used

the Pectasol during these times as well.Mainly we now use the lighter ones that also alkalize & provide minerals...for us right now it's Alfalfa & Chlorella (a high quality especially no pestisides...I won't go for the cheap ones on this item...I will for many other things, but not things like Chlorella or Alginates....btw, NICE FIND Channa...I LIKE the one you found!!!! The reason why is because these plants by nature mop up toxins so unless they are good/pure you could be putting more bad into the body). For us right now we are in a spot where he's good w/the amount of binding we have on board & the extra minerals & alkalization becomes a good benefit.So to answer your ?...it depends on your child & what they dump w/their detox....generally yes. The binders list separated out some of the metal binding ones. If your detox dumps metals (which many do when killing viruses & bacterias dump metals...again, see Stans

paper on the cycling...we've very much found this paper to be right on!!). When dumping metals yeast always kicks up for us....If you're dumping a lot a stronger binder is needed, if not, something more gentle that provides more than just binding is probably enough. (hope this makes sence....)My suggestion, start one at a time ( & give plenty of room between starting them... & start w/the Immusist because of the organ support)....put your mom-o-meter on high & watch to see if they need binders added...some have, some don't...all depends on the child. Report back....we'll be here if you need us...HTH'sBlessings!Rita>> Good afternoon, Rita,> > Perfect!!!!> > I have read

where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with my son. > > I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed in the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or IMMUSIST? > > Just want to be certain.> > "List of Binders -Repost of message #112878"> > Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!> > Jerry

[Guest guest]

Well then THANK YOU Tammy!!! Great Find!!!!

Great Binders, Minerals, B vits & organic from what looks like a great

company/area....what more could we want...it's got My Whooo!!!

MOM POWER at it's Best!!!!

Rita

>

> actually tammy found it...when we were all lookin for clean vitamin C:)

[Guest guest]

THANKS Tammy...love the advise & rrrrrrr on GMO!!!

Re the one we use ( & ART test well on)...we've been using the Shaklee one....I'm

not here to sell anyone Shaklee...my husbands family has been using it since he

was little/he still uses the same gal his dad used growing up...we only order it

for ourselves/we do not sell or profit off it & pass our discounted amount to a

couple other in the group that ask us to order some for them (we pass them our

discount in helping them get it when needed...as a non-sales I don't even have a

site). I know that there's others out there but the taste w/the spearmint & the

price @ only $28. for a bottle of 700 tablets which lasts our family for several

months just works for us....again, I'm on the total budget version doing this.

We've found that this alfalfa is tollerated well w/some of the more sensitive in

our group...don't know if it's the spearment that helps the taste & tummy or

what...

I've always found Shaklee to be pretty clean for the price...here's their " clean

policy " that I've enjoyed for many years (we've tried a couple of other brands

over the years, but just end up coming back here...it even makes into a nice

green-mint tea. Wish I was better at keeping up w/all the cleanest

ingredients...I'm just greatful we're healing so well in spite of it). Here's a

link to the list of items Shaklee guarantees not to have:

http://www.shaklee.com.my/eng/difference.asp

I REALLY like what you found w/the Algea product...you are a researching

queen!!! Please let us know if you find something better out there at a decent

price w/other alfalfa's, I'm always open to suggestions!

Thanks again!!!!

Rita

> >

> > Good afternoon, Rita,

> >

> > Perfect!!!!

> >

> > I have read where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with

my son.

> >

> > I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed

in the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or

IMMUSIST?

> >

> > Just want to be certain.

> >

> > " List of Binders -Repost of message #112878 "

> >

> > Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!

> >

> > Jerry

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Rita,

Many thanks for the wealth of information. Would like to know what brand of PECTASOL did you use? and how you dose it before or after chelation? Your reply will be very helpful.

Many thanks,

Sindhu.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, 10 February 2012, 22:59Subject: Re: LDM-100: Does it kill bad bacteria and good bacteria? Or just bad bacteria?

Jerry,We've used many different binders in the past....our docs taught us binders early on...it has been a breakthrough for many & very important. I LOVE ART muscle testing (Dr Klinghardt's)...as you get to know it you'll see those highly trained in it put the protocols together.....1st the stresses then looks for the right balance of killer to binder then tests the whole thing together to see how it works together....the Zyto does the same thing. As you learn this binder thing your mom-o-meter kicks in...you start thinking about things...you're intuition ( & for us prayer) comes to your aid ( & many times a great group like this too) then the light bulb comes on....and ahhhh..the pieces start fitting together better. As several posts have recently mentioned, behaviour itself comes from the layer you are cycling.When we were doing heavy detox (like chelating & LED detox) the heavy hitters like charcoal was a must. We also used

the Pectasol during these times as well.Mainly we now use the lighter ones that also alkalize & provide minerals...for us right now it's Alfalfa & Chlorella (a high quality especially no pestisides...I won't go for the cheap ones on this item...I will for many other things, but not things like Chlorella or Alginates....btw, NICE FIND Channa...I LIKE the one you found!!!! The reason why is because these plants by nature mop up toxins so unless they are good/pure you could be putting more bad into the body). For us right now we are in a spot where he's good w/the amount of binding we have on board & the extra minerals & alkalization becomes a good benefit.So to answer your ?...it depends on your child & what they dump w/their detox....generally yes. The binders list separated out some of the metal binding ones. If your detox dumps metals (which many do when killing viruses & bacterias dump metals...again, see Stans

paper on the cycling...we've very much found this paper to be right on!!). When dumping metals yeast always kicks up for us....If you're dumping a lot a stronger binder is needed, if not, something more gentle that provides more than just binding is probably enough. (hope this makes sence....)My suggestion, start one at a time ( & give plenty of room between starting them... & start w/the Immusist because of the organ support)....put your mom-o-meter on high & watch to see if they need binders added...some have, some don't...all depends on the child. Report back....we'll be here if you need us...HTH'sBlessings!Rita>> Good afternoon, Rita,> > Perfect!!!!> > I have read

where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with my son. > > I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed in the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or IMMUSIST? > > Just want to be certain.> > "List of Binders -Repost of message #112878"> > Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!> > Jerry

[Guest guest]

Sindhu,

It's so nice to hear from you! Hope you are doing well!

The Pectasol we used was purchased from our docs office (sorry don't know if you

can purchase it otc), EcoNugenics. The bottle says Pectasol Chelation Complex

" supports Healthy Detoxification " & " patented Pectin Alginate Complex "

Blessings,

Rita

> >

> > Good afternoon, Rita,

> >

> > Perfect!!!!

> >

> > I have read where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with

my son.

> >

> > I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed

in the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or

IMMUSIST?

> >

> > Just want to be certain.

> >

> > " List of Binders -Repost of message #112878 "

> >

> > Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!

> >

> > Jerry

>

[Guest guest]

Many thanks Rita for all your help and support. you have been such a big inspiration. GOD BLESS YOU.

Sindhu.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012, 20:03Subject: Re: LDM-100: Does it kill bad bacteria and good bacteria? Or just bad bacteria?

Sindhu,It's so nice to hear from you! Hope you are doing well!The Pectasol we used was purchased from our docs office (sorry don't know if you can purchase it otc), EcoNugenics. The bottle says Pectasol Chelation Complex "supports Healthy Detoxification" & "patented Pectin Alginate Complex"Blessings,Rita> >> > Good afternoon, Rita,> > > > Perfect!!!!> > > > I have read where you talk about cycling and we are experiencing this with my son. > > > > I believe I am missing the binders aspect. Are the same binders you listed in the thread below be utilized after the administration of LDM-100 and/or IMMUSIST? > > > > Just want to be certain.> > > > "List of Binders -Repost of message #112878"> > > > Thank you again for taking time to answer our questions and educate us!!!!> > > >

Jerry>