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So I'm thinking of going to my brother's for the weekend. I have the 3 days off,

and he lives about 200 miles away.

The bigger issue is that my nada lives on his property. he built a 1200 sq ft

house for her 2 years ago, she and fada moved in. Fada died a month ago,

prompting me to do a lot of learning about BPD and NPD, and getting into therapy

again

Now I find myself drawn to being there, for 2 reasons. FIrst, I want to observe

how I see and interact with my brother at this point. And I want to see how nada

is acting these days.

Even as I write this, it sounds " bad " to me - like I may be putting myself in

danger again...

I did talk with my therapist about it, and she said to just remember that I'm a

grownup and I can leave when I want to now, and that might be good for me to

experience my own power.

So- hold good thoughts, please?

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The decision is of course up to you, and we'll support whatever decision you

make. A couple of thoughts if you do choose to go:

1. Get a hotel room, preferably a reasonable distance from your brother's

house. You might want to not let them know the name of this hotel, just in case.

2. Have your own means of escape immediately available, i.e. no " rides " that

could potentially leave you stranded if the craziness comes out.

3. Have those boundaries up and well-fortified with emotional razor wire and

snipers. Let nothing slide. Be a complete pain in the a$$ if you need to, to

prevent any verbal acid from corroding your soul.

4. Bring fireworks. Lots and lots of fireworks. Light them when you sense the

craziness coming on and if nothing else you'll have a good light show.

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> So I'm thinking of going to my brother's for the weekend. I have the 3 days

off, and he lives about 200 miles away.

>

> The bigger issue is that my nada lives on his property. he built a 1200 sq ft

house for her 2 years ago, she and fada moved in. Fada died a month ago,

prompting me to do a lot of learning about BPD and NPD, and getting into therapy

again

>

> Now I find myself drawn to being there, for 2 reasons. FIrst, I want to

observe how I see and interact with my brother at this point. And I want to see

how nada is acting these days.

>

> Even as I write this, it sounds " bad " to me - like I may be putting myself in

danger again...

> I did talk with my therapist about it, and she said to just remember that I'm

a grownup and I can leave when I want to now, and that might be good for me to

experience my own power.

>

> So- hold good thoughts, please?

>

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My suggestion is that you don't actually stay with either your brother or your

nada, and take your own car or rent a car for the duration of your stay there so

you have your own transportation.

Choose a nearby hotel or motel to stay at, so that if you find that you are

being subjected to abusive attacks by either or both of them, you can leave

quickly and drive yourself back to your own, private hotel room. You won't be

stuck with them, in their home(s), dependent on their good will to allow you

leave if and when you want to.

It is a kind of primitive power-play, but in the case of personality disordered

parents and sibs with a history of behaving abusively toward you, it is just

smarter to retain your power to come and go at your own discretion and have your

own safe place to sleep in. It puts you on more of a level playing field with

them.

Just my two cents' worth, to consider if it resonates with you.

-Annie

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> So I'm thinking of going to my brother's for the weekend. I have the 3 days

off, and he lives about 200 miles away.

>

> The bigger issue is that my nada lives on his property. he built a 1200 sq ft

house for her 2 years ago, she and fada moved in. Fada died a month ago,

prompting me to do a lot of learning about BPD and NPD, and getting into therapy

again

>

> Now I find myself drawn to being there, for 2 reasons. FIrst, I want to

observe how I see and interact with my brother at this point. And I want to see

how nada is acting these days.

>

> Even as I write this, it sounds " bad " to me - like I may be putting myself in

danger again...

> I did talk with my therapist about it, and she said to just remember that I'm

a grownup and I can leave when I want to now, and that might be good for me to

experience my own power.

>

> So- hold good thoughts, please?

>

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I agree with writermanque! I posted my response before reading this one, and I

basically agreed totally: have your own hotel room, have your own

transportation. The fireworks are a nice touch!

-Annie

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> > So I'm thinking of going to my brother's for the weekend. I have the 3 days

off, and he lives about 200 miles away.

> >

> > The bigger issue is that my nada lives on his property. he built a 1200 sq

ft house for her 2 years ago, she and fada moved in. Fada died a month ago,

prompting me to do a lot of learning about BPD and NPD, and getting into therapy

again

> >

> > Now I find myself drawn to being there, for 2 reasons. FIrst, I want to

observe how I see and interact with my brother at this point. And I want to see

how nada is acting these days.

> >

> > Even as I write this, it sounds " bad " to me - like I may be putting myself

in danger again...

> > I did talk with my therapist about it, and she said to just remember that

I'm a grownup and I can leave when I want to now, and that might be good for me

to experience my own power.

> >

> > So- hold good thoughts, please?

> >

>

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Make sure your cell phone is fully charged at all times and you have the number

of local taxi companies. Just in case circumstances combine to separate you

from your car. Also arrange visiting times to be a few hours on and a few hours

off to give you recovery time.

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> > > So I'm thinking of going to my brother's for the weekend. I have the 3

days off, and he lives about 200 miles away.

> > >

> > > The bigger issue is that my nada lives on his property. he built a 1200 sq

ft house for her 2 years ago, she and fada moved in. Fada died a month ago,

prompting me to do a lot of learning about BPD and NPD, and getting into therapy

again

> > >

> > > Now I find myself drawn to being there, for 2 reasons. FIrst, I want to

observe how I see and interact with my brother at this point. And I want to see

how nada is acting these days.

> > >

> > > Even as I write this, it sounds " bad " to me - like I may be putting myself

in danger again...

> > > I did talk with my therapist about it, and she said to just remember that

I'm a grownup and I can leave when I want to now, and that might be good for me

to experience my own power.

> > >

> > > So- hold good thoughts, please?

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks for all of the suggestions. I did make a hotel reservation. If they are

crazy when I get there, I will just spend the night in the hotel and come home

leisurely. Actually, there are lots of things in the area that I've always

wanted to do and see- I could happily keep myself amused for a couple of days,

so I may spend the whole weekend, not just with them! I do have my own car, keys

and cell phone ALWAYS in my pocket- good point about keeping the cell phone well

charged. Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes.

> >

> > So I'm thinking of going to my brother's for the weekend. I have the 3 days

off, and he lives about 200 miles away.

> >

> > The bigger issue is that my nada lives on his property. he built a 1200 sq

ft house for her 2 years ago, she and fada moved in. Fada died a month ago,

prompting me to do a lot of learning about BPD and NPD, and getting into therapy

again

> >

> > Now I find myself drawn to being there, for 2 reasons. FIrst, I want to

observe how I see and interact with my brother at this point. And I want to see

how nada is acting these days.

> >

> > Even as I write this, it sounds " bad " to me - like I may be putting myself

in danger again...

> > I did talk with my therapist about it, and she said to just remember that

I'm a grownup and I can leave when I want to now, and that might be good for me

to experience my own power.

> >

> > So- hold good thoughts, please?

> >

>

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Hi All!

Well, I did go to my brother's, stayed in the hotel Saturday night (and avoided

the nada church drama Sunday am) but enjoyed being with my brother. I really

wanted to go, now that I know more about BPD and NPD, to see if he's a PD or

just reacts to them.

If he were a PD, too, that would have been my last ever visit there, but he's

not. Somehow, I feel calmer knowing that.

Chris

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> Thanks for all of the suggestions. I did make a hotel reservation. If they are

crazy when I get there, I will just spend the night in the hotel and come home

leisurely. Actually, there are lots of things in the area that I've always

wanted to do and see- I could happily keep myself amused for a couple of days,

so I may spend the whole weekend, not just with them! I do have my own car, keys

and cell phone ALWAYS in my pocket- good point about keeping the cell phone well

charged. Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes.

>

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Great! I'm glad the visit with your brother turned out to be pleasant for you

and that he isn't a pd person, and you avoided encountering hystrionics on

nada's part. High five!

-Annie

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> > Thanks for all of the suggestions. I did make a hotel reservation. If they

are crazy when I get there, I will just spend the night in the hotel and come

home leisurely. Actually, there are lots of things in the area that I've always

wanted to do and see- I could happily keep myself amused for a couple of days,

so I may spend the whole weekend, not just with them! I do have my own car, keys

and cell phone ALWAYS in my pocket- good point about keeping the cell phone well

charged. Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes.

> >

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