Guest guest Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 This is the first Christmas that I can remember being peaceful. Not just because I have the gift this year of good mental health---I think it is because I have finally accepted the blessing of having (temporary) no contact with nada. I've not heard from narsty nada since I decided I was going to call the pitches as I saw them. I played ump, and as she threw her spitballs AT me, I told her calmly that she had struck out. Now I am reflecting in the peace and quiet of a darkened stadium at the end of my last season in Nada's Little League. I've aged out at a game I really never liked. I am no longer going to play, and I am enjoying that realization. At this point, it does not even matter that she is the one who is blocking my efforts to communicate. I truly feel at peace. I've only mailed two packages so far, and the rest will wait until after Christmas (I hid some presents away that I don't seem to be able to find!) At this time of year, I would really rather go reflective, write letters, bake cookies and enjoy candlelight in the windows. When we lived in the northeast US, I loved the winter even more for its ingathering and time of deep rest. Last night was a solstice celebration at our spiritual fellowship. I'd never been to a Solstice celebration before, or wanted to. I kind of thought Solstice was a politically correct way for non-religious folks to band together. Now I realize that this is the reason for the season, and long ago, the Christians decided to add their bit to the mix. Yet the Lord was not born this time of year! I really only went last night because friends were performing last night. It was a beautiful festival of light with no religious references. Just honoring our human connection to this time of darkness, when the sun was perceived by the ancients as " standing still. " We had beautiful music and harmony of voices. We sang along. The night was so free of the extra baggage that I grew up with from Lutheranism. That is when I really understood, that though I am a Christian, I don't like that the church decided to celebrate Jesus birth at the wrong time of year. I'd rather just have this be a reflective time, and honor nature, frankly. Lest religious issues be divisive, I'll stop there. I'll take it back to the reason I posted. This time of year, growing up with grouchy, grinchy nada (with high ideals to boot), this season was a true hell. I always preferred Thanksgiving, because of its focus on simply eating a communal meal together. Perhaps the confusion and high expectations for Christmas we partly because nada grew up in a household that celebrated two Christmases, in a country where religious celebrations were banned. When she came to the States in the 50's, she was already confused about her identity. Trying to be Lutheran AND Ukrainian, Russian and German, THEN coming to America where we had this kooky Santa Claus business AND Thanksgiving, I am sure it was just too much for her. I've come to realize nada also has ADD. At any rate, the holidays always had the worst of fights in our family and dashed expectation and huge disappointments. With the Solstice celebration last night, I suddenly saw clear of all that, to see essentials. This has always been a time in which I craved introspection and quiet, uplifting music. And I suddenly got that it is possible for me to enjoy it my way with my family. I am now glad I am not married to someone who was raised in the Christian traditions. My husband is a lapsed Baha'i. The second Christmas season with nada in the background, has given me time to really look inside my own heart. I'm clearing away the guilt that nada conveyed to me, about how to celebrate the holiday and forging my own meaning from the season. To reduce the chance of ugliness and dismay, I may decide not to take any phone calls from nada (I doubt she will call, actually) until after the New Year. By that time, perhaps nada's own inner turmoil will have passed. Grinchy, grouchy nada can wait until Orthodox Christmas, or receive her packages on January 6th. I am still assembling thoughtful little things for her and my dad that are light (weight) and homemade. She likes that anyways. I am not people-pleasing this year, when she could be in a bad mood and throw my present away. In fact, I may just wait until she calls me and WANTS their presents sent before I go to the post office to mail it. I've sent a card to her PO Box. I finally give up on trying to get her to be normal about her mail. If she wants to drive a half hour for her letters, let her! Not having nada at all in this holiday is a blessing this year. I am realizing I like my own company. This is the best gift nada could have given me. I pray that she finds peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Hi V. Ha !....narsty..!! Tonight we found out that now my cousin's brother is at the lawyer saying he was almost the Executor of Uncle Will. Will this ever stop? I am also so glad.. no sociopath brother.and ma b is is where she wants to be and IF she wants to call...and my family here and friends together. Me, now half sane. Dr. visit today says I must remain careful from some time. One work day to go and 12 off...to rest. You wrote very well tonight. I also found out that cousin's husband has now verified they have letters uncle gave them years back about nasty dealings re money with my parents about my step gamma's house when she was ill...and they wanted her out...all correspondence with uncle to his sister..my mother. More sense is coming forth. I will ask for these letters as I heal more. Today I narrowly escaped a near 3 second miss of a feeder spray of gravel at a construction fix-site downtown across from my work..last week a train/bus type stalking. My eclectic therapist/friend believes these r manifestations from Spirit showing me I am protected..a few days ago in the elevator, a woman that works on my floor was with me. We were casually talking about this break coming. She then blurted into talk on Spirit and how Perspective is the answer to our life.which is exactly my study and focus in therapy. She then went to her desk and promptly gave me a copy of a book she has in her drawer to keep her on track on how we must choose to live through Spirit and positive energy..I did not even know her. Synchronicity abounds in my life and now more than ever. I am blessed. Take care...it will be a Nada Lite Christmas this year for the first time and I am good for it. Even my Dr. today agreed. Best to you, Bonnie From: WTOAdultChildren1 [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of V.S. Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 06:33 PM To: wtoAdultChildren1 Subject: christmas without " narsty " nada This is the first Christmas that I can remember being peaceful. Not just because I have the gift this year of good mental health---I think it is because I have finally accepted the blessing of having (temporary) no contact with nada. I've not heard from narsty nada since I decided I was going to call the pitches as I saw them. I played ump, and as she threw her spitballs AT me, I told her calmly that she had struck out. Now I am reflecting in the peace and quiet of a darkened stadium at the end of my last season in Nada's Little League. I've aged out at a game I really never liked. I am no longer going to play, and I am enjoying that realization. At this point, it does not even matter that she is the one who is blocking my efforts to communicate. I truly feel at peace. I've only mailed two packages so far, and the rest will wait until after Christmas (I hid some presents away that I don't seem to be able to find!) At this time of year, I would really rather go reflective, write letters, bake cookies and enjoy candlelight in the windows. When we lived in the northeast US, I loved the winter even more for its ingathering and time of deep rest. Last night was a solstice celebration at our spiritual fellowship. I'd never been to a Solstice celebration before, or wanted to. I kind of thought Solstice was a politically correct way for non-religious folks to band together. Now I realize that this is the reason for the season, and long ago, the Christians decided to add their bit to the mix. Yet the Lord was not born this time of year! I really only went last night because friends were performing last night. It was a beautiful festival of light with no religious references. Just honoring our human connection to this time of darkness, when the sun was perceived by the ancients as " standing still. " We had beautiful music and harmony of voices. We sang along. The night was so free of the extra baggage that I grew up with from Lutheranism. That is when I really understood, that though I am a Christian, I don't like that the church decided to celebrate Jesus birth at the wrong time of year. I'd rather just have this be a reflective time, and honor nature, frankly. Lest religious issues be divisive, I'll stop there. I'll take it back to the reason I posted. This time of year, growing up with grouchy, grinchy nada (with high ideals to boot), this season was a true hell. I always preferred Thanksgiving, because of its focus on simply eating a communal meal together. Perhaps the confusion and high expectations for Christmas we partly because nada grew up in a household that celebrated two Christmases, in a country where religious celebrations were banned. When she came to the States in the 50's, she was already confused about her identity. Trying to be Lutheran AND Ukrainian, Russian and German, THEN coming to America where we had this kooky Santa Claus business AND Thanksgiving, I am sure it was just too much for her. I've come to realize nada also has ADD. At any rate, the holidays always had the worst of fights in our family and dashed expectation and huge disappointments. With the Solstice celebration last night, I suddenly saw clear of all that, to see essentials. This has always been a time in which I craved introspection and quiet, uplifting music. And I suddenly got that it is possible for me to enjoy it my way with my family. I am now glad I am not married to someone who was raised in the Christian traditions. My husband is a lapsed Baha'i. The second Christmas season with nada in the background, has given me time to really look inside my own heart. I'm clearing away the guilt that nada conveyed to me, about how to celebrate the holiday and forging my own meaning from the season. To reduce the chance of ugliness and dismay, I may decide not to take any phone calls from nada (I doubt she will call, actually) until after the New Year. By that time, perhaps nada's own inner turmoil will have passed. Grinchy, grouchy nada can wait until Orthodox Christmas, or receive her packages on January 6th. I am still assembling thoughtful little things for her and my dad that are light (weight) and homemade. She likes that anyways. I am not people-pleasing this year, when she could be in a bad mood and throw my present away. In fact, I may just wait until she calls me and WANTS their presents sent before I go to the post office to mail it. I've sent a card to her PO Box. I finally give up on trying to get her to be normal about her mail. If she wants to drive a half hour for her letters, let her! Not having nada at all in this holiday is a blessing this year. I am realizing I like my own company. This is the best gift nada could have given me. I pray that she finds peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Thanks for sharing that, . I can feel a sense of peace permeating your post, which is lovely. I think its kind of cool (no pun intended) to reflect on how much the great religions of the world have in common, at this time of year. (Me personally, I am mostly an agnostic, but I think all the great religions of the world are just different and equally valid Paths to the same ultimate goal, which is Goodness: to leave the world a better place than it was when we arrived, if at all possible, even if its just a tiny bit better.) Here's wishing much peace and goodness to all of us in the coming year. -Annie > > This is the first Christmas that I can remember being peaceful. Not just because I have the gift this year of good mental health---I think it is because I have finally accepted the blessing of having (temporary) no contact with nada. > > I've not heard from narsty nada since I decided I was going to call the pitches as I saw them. I played ump, and as she threw her spitballs AT me, I told her calmly that she had struck out. Now I am reflecting in the peace and quiet of a darkened stadium at the end of my last season in Nada's Little League. I've aged out at a game I really never liked. I am no longer going to play, and I am enjoying that realization. > > At this point, it does not even matter that she is the one who is blocking my efforts to communicate. > > I truly feel at peace. I've only mailed two packages so far, and the rest will wait until after Christmas (I hid some presents away that I don't seem to be able to find!) At this time of year, I would really rather go reflective, write letters, bake cookies and enjoy candlelight in the windows. When we lived in the northeast US, I loved the winter even more for its ingathering and time of deep rest. > > Last night was a solstice celebration at our spiritual fellowship. I'd never been to a Solstice celebration before, or wanted to. I kind of thought Solstice was a politically correct way for non-religious folks to band together. Now I realize that this is the reason for the season, and long ago, the Christians decided to add their bit to the mix. Yet the Lord was not born this time of year! > > I really only went last night because friends were performing last night. It was a beautiful festival of light with no religious references. Just honoring our human connection to this time of darkness, when the sun was perceived by the ancients as " standing still. " We had beautiful music and harmony of voices. We sang along. The night was so free of the extra baggage that I grew up with from Lutheranism. That is when I really understood, that though I am a Christian, I don't like that the church decided to celebrate Jesus birth at the wrong time of year. I'd rather just have this be a reflective time, and honor nature, frankly. > > Lest religious issues be divisive, I'll stop there. I'll take it back to the reason I posted. This time of year, growing up with grouchy, grinchy nada (with high ideals to boot), this season was a true hell. I always preferred Thanksgiving, because of its focus on simply eating a communal meal together. > > Perhaps the confusion and high expectations for Christmas we partly because nada grew up in a household that celebrated two Christmases, in a country where religious celebrations were banned. When she came to the States in the 50's, she was already confused about her identity. Trying to be Lutheran AND Ukrainian, Russian and German, THEN coming to America where we had this kooky Santa Claus business AND Thanksgiving, I am sure it was just too much for her. I've come to realize nada also has ADD. At any rate, the holidays always had the worst of fights in our family and dashed expectation and huge disappointments. > > With the Solstice celebration last night, I suddenly saw clear of all that, to see essentials. This has always been a time in which I craved introspection and quiet, uplifting music. And I suddenly got that it is possible for me to enjoy it my way with my family. I am now glad I am not married to someone who was raised in the Christian traditions. My husband is a lapsed Baha'i. The second Christmas season with nada in the background, has given me time to really look inside my own heart. I'm clearing away the guilt that nada conveyed to me, about how to celebrate the holiday and forging my own meaning from the season. > > To reduce the chance of ugliness and dismay, I may decide not to take any phone calls from nada (I doubt she will call, actually) until after the New Year. By that time, perhaps nada's own inner turmoil will have passed. > > Grinchy, grouchy nada can wait until Orthodox Christmas, or receive her packages on January 6th. I am still assembling thoughtful little things for her and my dad that are light (weight) and homemade. She likes that anyways. I am not people-pleasing this year, when she could be in a bad mood and throw my present away. In fact, I may just wait until she calls me and WANTS their presents sent before I go to the post office to mail it. > > I've sent a card to her PO Box. I finally give up on trying to get her to be normal about her mail. If she wants to drive a half hour for her letters, let her! > > Not having nada at all in this holiday is a blessing this year. I am realizing I like my own company. This is the best gift nada could have given me. I pray that she finds peace. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Hi , I'm so happy for you that you have peace this time of year. That you are free...that you can spend time refelecting and doing the things that are comforting to you. I too am not seeing my Nada (and poor Dad because he has to be where she is) this year and it is wonderful. In all of my years there have been very few years where she has not been here the day. This IS the first year we will not be seeing my parents at all at some point during the holiday. We mailed our gifts to one another. I talked to Nada yesterday (I have been calling once a month or this month...2 times.)and it was a downer. A real reminder of why I need to go back to once a month. She was complaining about how she has not received many Christmas cards. She feels that the ones she has received were only because the person she received them from had received hers first and that they sent her one at the last minute. What???? I think that is crazy. Every topic went on with underlying negativity. My Mom is so good at that. I like your term....Narsty Nada....that is my Mom. Have a Blessed day, > > This is the first Christmas that I can remember being peaceful. Not just because I have the gift this year of good mental health---I think it is because I have finally accepted the blessing of having (temporary) no contact with nada. > > I've not heard from narsty nada since I decided I was going to call the pitches as I saw them. I played ump, and as she threw her spitballs AT me, I told her calmly that she had struck out. Now I am reflecting in the peace and quiet of a darkened stadium at the end of my last season in Nada's Little League. I've aged out at a game I really never liked. I am no longer going to play, and I am enjoying that realization. > > At this point, it does not even matter that she is the one who is blocking my efforts to communicate. > > I truly feel at peace. I've only mailed two packages so far, and the rest will wait until after Christmas (I hid some presents away that I don't seem to be able to find!) At this time of year, I would really rather go reflective, write letters, bake cookies and enjoy candlelight in the windows. When we lived in the northeast US, I loved the winter even more for its ingathering and time of deep rest. > > Last night was a solstice celebration at our spiritual fellowship. I'd never been to a Solstice celebration before, or wanted to. I kind of thought Solstice was a politically correct way for non-religious folks to band together. Now I realize that this is the reason for the season, and long ago, the Christians decided to add their bit to the mix. Yet the Lord was not born this time of year! > > I really only went last night because friends were performing last night. It was a beautiful festival of light with no religious references. Just honoring our human connection to this time of darkness, when the sun was perceived by the ancients as " standing still. " We had beautiful music and harmony of voices. We sang along. The night was so free of the extra baggage that I grew up with from Lutheranism. That is when I really understood, that though I am a Christian, I don't like that the church decided to celebrate Jesus birth at the wrong time of year. I'd rather just have this be a reflective time, and honor nature, frankly. > > Lest religious issues be divisive, I'll stop there. I'll take it back to the reason I posted. This time of year, growing up with grouchy, grinchy nada (with high ideals to boot), this season was a true hell. I always preferred Thanksgiving, because of its focus on simply eating a communal meal together. > > Perhaps the confusion and high expectations for Christmas we partly because nada grew up in a household that celebrated two Christmases, in a country where religious celebrations were banned. When she came to the States in the 50's, she was already confused about her identity. Trying to be Lutheran AND Ukrainian, Russian and German, THEN coming to America where we had this kooky Santa Claus business AND Thanksgiving, I am sure it was just too much for her. I've come to realize nada also has ADD. At any rate, the holidays always had the worst of fights in our family and dashed expectation and huge disappointments. > > With the Solstice celebration last night, I suddenly saw clear of all that, to see essentials. This has always been a time in which I craved introspection and quiet, uplifting music. And I suddenly got that it is possible for me to enjoy it my way with my family. I am now glad I am not married to someone who was raised in the Christian traditions. My husband is a lapsed Baha'i. The second Christmas season with nada in the background, has given me time to really look inside my own heart. I'm clearing away the guilt that nada conveyed to me, about how to celebrate the holiday and forging my own meaning from the season. > > To reduce the chance of ugliness and dismay, I may decide not to take any phone calls from nada (I doubt she will call, actually) until after the New Year. By that time, perhaps nada's own inner turmoil will have passed. > > Grinchy, grouchy nada can wait until Orthodox Christmas, or receive her packages on January 6th. I am still assembling thoughtful little things for her and my dad that are light (weight) and homemade. She likes that anyways. I am not people-pleasing this year, when she could be in a bad mood and throw my present away. In fact, I may just wait until she calls me and WANTS their presents sent before I go to the post office to mail it. > > I've sent a card to her PO Box. I finally give up on trying to get her to be normal about her mail. If she wants to drive a half hour for her letters, let her! > > Not having nada at all in this holiday is a blessing this year. I am realizing I like my own company. This is the best gift nada could have given me. I pray that she finds peace. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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