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In a message dated 5/7/2002 10:19:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

joyk10@... writes:

> >As I understand it, butter was traditionally made from soured

> cream,

>

> What about buttermilk? Does it have to be 'cultured' buttermilk to be

> effective when using it to soak grains?

>

> I have used the liquid left after making butter from fresh cream for

> soaking

> oatmeal; is this really buttermilk?

>

> Thanks,

> Joy

>

The stuff you get from making butter is real buttermilk. The way I figure it

the cultured stuff was invented by a person looking for a use for skimmed

milk before people were brainwashed into thinking it was a health food.

Belinda

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In a message dated 5/7/2002 5:54:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

dkemnitz2000@... writes:

> PS We fed the skim milk to the hogs! Ever do that? If you have

> you'll know why pigs are called pigs.

>

>

We still do, about 3 times a week.

Belinda

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In a message dated 5/7/2002 7:53:41 PM Central Daylight Time,

dkemnitz2000@... writes:

> > PS We fed the skim milk to the hogs! Ever do that? If you have

> > > you'll know why pigs are called pigs.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > We still do, about 3 times a week.

> >

> >

> > Belinda

> >

> >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WE do to some extent. In those days I

> carried water from a hand pump well for 30 head or so. Today we feed

> only 2 pigs and their diet consists of sour whole milk and yogurt as

> well as some fresh milk and wheat. I've found out the two pigs are

> much easier to feed than 30. We'll have bacon and lard one of these

> days for those NT times. Dennis

>

>

We have one lone sow right now. We tried to get out of the hog business (no

money in it) but found we couldn't sell Ruby Pig (bottle baby) or butcher

her, tho sometimes the latter is a real temptation. Ruby is going for a visit

next week and will come back to make little piggies for the Christmas

holiday. Ooooo but roast suckling pig sure is good!

Belinda

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> In a message dated 5/7/2002 10:19:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

> joyk10@h... writes:

>

>

> > >As I understand it, butter was traditionally made from soured

> > cream,

> >

> > What about buttermilk? Does it have to be 'cultured' buttermilk

to be

> > effective when using it to soak grains?

> >

> > I have used the liquid left after making butter from fresh cream

for

> > soaking

> > oatmeal; is this really buttermilk?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Joy

> >

>

> The stuff you get from making butter is real buttermilk. The way I

figure it

> the cultured stuff was invented by a person looking for a use for

skimmed

> milk before people were brainwashed into thinking it was a health

food.

>

> Belinda

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Belinda and Joy, believe it or not, cream was sent to

the creamery via the railroad (without refrigeration) twice weekly

back in the 50's. That cream had to be nearly sour before it left our

depot. I think they made butter with sour cream because the

manufacturers discovered it possible. That left cultured buttermilk to

sell as well. I suppose they blended sweet cream with sour cream and

also, I think they added NaOH (Sodium Hydroxide, known to the creamery

workers as caustic) to bring the titrable acidity down (neutralize

some of the acid). They may have called NaOH a manufacturing aid in

those days. Anyway that's the way it was! Dennis

PS We fed the skim milk to the hogs! Ever do that? If you have

you'll know why pigs are called pigs.

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> In a message dated 5/7/2002 5:54:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

> dkemnitz2000@y... writes:

>

>

> > PS We fed the skim milk to the hogs! Ever do that? If you have

> > you'll know why pigs are called pigs.

> >

> >

>

> We still do, about 3 times a week.

>

>

> Belinda

>

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WE do to some extent. In those days I

carried water from a hand pump well for 30 head or so. Today we feed

only 2 pigs and their diet consists of sour whole milk and yogurt as

well as some fresh milk and wheat. I've found out the two pigs are

much easier to feed than 30. We'll have bacon and lard one of these

days for those NT times. Dennis

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