Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Tammy, Over the years our docs have had us use the binder 1st so they are on board to mop up the chelation. For example, we are currently using cilantro (Biopures) as a natural chelator (also have to dose in warm water to kill something...forget all the details). Cilantro mobilizes but does not bind, so we have to take chlorella (also Biopures) 1/2 hour before the cilantro to have the binders ready to grab the mobilized metals. Tammy, I really, really liked the algea you found...if you have that handy my mom-o-meter is telling me you should use that in addition to the ALA just to have a really good greens binder on board...my2c... Blessings!! Rita > > We're all set and ready to start chelating. Rita, Channa, and friends: how would you reccomend dosing the binders? With every dose along with the chelator or at the end of the round? How much? (Tom is 9, 80lbs) I'm starting with ALA only and just HATE the thought of that last day of the round when metals are left to redistribute wherever. If I want to start this weekend, I'd probably have to use chlorella or alfalfa. What do you guys think? > > Thanks for anything you have to offer > -Tammy > > Sent from my Kindle Fire > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you so much. I think it may have been the other Tammy that found it. because while I DO remember the search for clean C, I don't remember the algae....my memory is horrible - i hate to think how bad it will be by the time i get old. Ive got about three brain cells retaining 100 gigs of info. : ) Sent from my Kindle Fire Sent: Mon Feb 13 15:38:50 EST 2012 To: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Binders for chelation Tammy, Over the years our docs have had us use the binder 1st so they are on board to mop up the chelation. For example, we are currently using cilantro (Biopures) as a natural chelator (also have to dose in warm water to kill something...forget all the details). Cilantro mobilizes but does not bind, so we have to take chlorella (also Biopures) 1/2 hour before the cilantro to have the binders ready to grab the mobilized metals. Tammy, I really, really liked the algea you found...if you have that handy my mom-o-meter is telling me you should use that in addition to the ALA just to have a really good greens binder on board...my2c... Blessings!! Rita > > We're all set and ready to start chelating. Rita, Channa, and friends: how would you reccomend dosing the binders? With every dose along with the chelator or at the end of the round? How much? (Tom is 9, 80lbs) I'm starting with ALA only and just HATE the thought of that last day of the round when metals are left to redistribute wherever. If I want to start this weekend, I'd probably have to use chlorella or alfalfa. What do you guys think? > > Thanks for anything you have to offer > -Tammy > > Sent from my Kindle Fire > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Do u follow the dosing on the label for the binders? -tammy Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 tammy you so funny...yes it was you that found the clean c but i looked at the other products and found the algae on it..it is really good company. dont feel bad...i am so full of mercury toxins...i think of the one sponge bob episode...where all he knows is breathing and fine dining...he is an expert at fine dining...but when someone asked him what his name was he fell apart...i relate to this ... on a bad day i couldnt tell you my name or even what month it is..I havent brushed my teeth in maybe two months? shhh...if i was taken to the ER they might diagnos me with dementia? but damn if i dont know my biomed.. mwahahahaha....(crazy laugh) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:57 PMSubject: Re: Re: Binders for chelation Thank you so much. I think it may have been the other Tammy that found it. because while I DO remember the search for clean C, I don't remember the algae....my memory is horrible - i hate to think how bad it will be by the time i get old. Ive got about three brain cells retaining 100 gigs of info. : )Sent from my Kindle Fire Sent: Mon Feb 13 15:38:50 EST 2012To: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Binders for chelation Tammy,Over the years our docs have had us use the binder 1st so they are on board to mop up the chelation. For example, we are currently using cilantro (Biopures) as a natural chelator (also have to dose in warm water to kill something...forget all the details). Cilantro mobilizes but does not bind, so we have to take chlorella (also Biopures) 1/2 hour before the cilantro to have the binders ready to grab the mobilized metals.Tammy, I really, really liked the algea you found...if you have that handy my mom-o-meter is telling me you should use that in addition to the ALA just to have a really good greens binder on board...my2c...Blessings!!Rita>> We're all set and ready to start chelating. Rita, Channa, and friends: how would you reccomend dosing the binders? With every dose along with the chelator or at the end of the round? How much? (Tom is 9, 80lbs) I'm starting with ALA only and just HATE the thought of that last day of the round when metals are left to redistribute wherever. If I want to start this weekend, I'd probably have to use chlorella or alfalfa. What do you guys think?> > Thanks for anything you have to offer> -Tammy> > Sent from my Kindle Fire> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 well i am using five capsules of algae one to three times a day....I would think taking the algae an hour from the ALA would work well....or what i been doin this round is gave ALA dose and twenty minutes later gave the algae...so that the ALA has a chance to be absorbed some...my son is about 38 pounds channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:14 PMSubject: Binders for chelation We're all set and ready to start chelating. Rita, Channa, and friends: how would you reccomend dosing the binders? With every dose along with the chelator or at the end of the round? How much? (Tom is 9, 80lbs) I'm starting with ALA only and just HATE the thought of that last day of the round when metals are left to redistribute wherever. If I want to start this weekend, I'd probably have to use chlorella or alfalfa. What do you guys think? Thanks for anything you have to offer-TammySent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Tammy, You're going to love this (sarcastic here)...no, it's never that easy...oh how nice it would be to just follow a lable w/our kids & be able to trust everything w/our kids....but all of them are sooooo different. I kinda think of binders kinda like enzymes. You sorta dose working up (by itself so you see whether their body tollerates it well...because even different binders have their intolerances in our kids..uhhhh). Start slow...work up on the 1st one....if they like that one you can add other one....then add your chelation. I've seen others over the years not have the extra binders & I personally think there are more behaviours & extra chance of redistribution w/o the good binders already on board. Most binders are food, especially if they're from the greens catagory (ie superfoods...the more you know about superfoods, the better ) Sorry, offtrack once again....so like enzymes, it's not just the size of the kid but also what it's working on (ie..the enzymes break down food so the more food you need broken down the more enzymes it's going to take to break it down...so at times I'd only give my son 1 if he was doing a light snack...other times (like Thanksgiving dinner @ my families....) it's a 3 or 4 enzymer meal.....I know, graffic pictures... Now...applied to binders....depends on what they are dumping & how they are acting. If in chelating they are acting off, drooling, very emotional....I'd pretty much figure the mercy is dumping & add in extra things that bind metals....if you want me to resend my research on toxic metal symptoms to refresh, just hollar, I'll dig it up & resend it as refresher. When we went in to do LED detox...Activated Charcoal was always dosed just before.... & sometimes Pectasol in addition. With all of these make sure you are drinking lots of water to flush as well. Dosages for us (13, detoxed for 7 years...phewwwww). W/'s mercury dumping right now (on Immusist, Chilantro, Chlorella, MB12 & periodic lasers....Immusist has made the biggest difference as the rest was being done b/4 the jump last year)...his DD Hair report has him dumping higher than even his hard core chelation days....mercury is into yellow @ .63 & arsenic is right at yellow @.081...other than the magnesium still in the yellow (rrrr...at least it's up from last year so we're making progress... & Finally, zinc is in the white..whoooo, we'll take the improvements, slow as they seem...). With this going on we're ART testing at Chlorella-6 tablets pm, Alfalfa-4 tablets am+4pm. For one of the 3yo's in our WA group he's on 3 tablets Alfalfa & NDF+...I'll have to ask the mom how much but I think this one is dose appropriate for a child on NDF+ (don't know as I don't do this one). Sorry for the book...this stuff is broad & child specific...but hope it helps... Blessings, Rita > > Do u follow the dosing on the label for the binders? > > -tammy > > Sent from my Kindle Fire > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thank you so much! Please don't ever apologize for the awesome information you share. I'll take every little bit I can get. In the back of.my mind (pretty much from the jump) I knew I had to chelate. But I needed to soak in as much as I could beforehand and honestly, I never felt completely comfortable with the idea until I started learning about binders. I'm interested in pectasol. That feels right to me. I'm totally paranoid about ocean products, so I wouldlean towards alfalfa/pectin/ cilantro. He tolerates supplements pretty well. So far, we've never seen anything crazy. Thanks again, Tammy Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Lol Channa,you are the best. And let me just say one bad-ass warrior mom if you were doing rounds every three hours with binders 20 minutes before hand. That's dedication, folks! Every three hours I can handle - I never sleep much longer than that uninterrupted anyhow...but twenty minutes before...that's pretty damn good. Tammy Sent from my Kindle Fire Sent: Mon Feb 13 19:08:43 EST 2012 To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: Binders for chelation tammy you so funny...yes it was you that found the clean c but i looked at the other products and found the algae on it..it is really good company. dont feel bad...i am so full of mercury toxins...i think of the one sponge bob episode...where all he knows is breathing and fine dining...he is an expert at fine dining...but when someone asked him what his name was he fell apart...i relate to this ... on a bad day i couldnt tell you my name or even what month it is..I havent brushed my teeth in maybe two months? shhh...if i was taken to the ER they might diagnos me with dementia? but damn if i dont know my biomed.. mwahahahaha....(crazy laugh) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:57 PMSubject: Re: Re: Binders for chelation Thank you so much. I think it may have been the other Tammy that found it. because while I DO remember the search for clean C, I don't remember the algae....my memory is horrible - i hate to think how bad it will be by the time i get old. Ive got about three brain cells retaining 100 gigs of info. : )Sent from my Kindle Fire Sent: Mon Feb 13 15:38:50 EST 2012To: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Binders for chelation Tammy,Over the years our docs have had us use the binder 1st so they are on board to mop up the chelation. For example, we are currently using cilantro (Biopures) as a natural chelator (also have to dose in warm water to kill something...forget all the details). Cilantro mobilizes but does not bind, so we have to take chlorella (also Biopures) 1/2 hour before the cilantro to have the binders ready to grab the mobilized metals.Tammy, I really, really liked the algea you found...if you have that handy my mom-o-meter is telling me you should use that in addition to the ALA just to have a really good greens binder on board...my2c...Blessings!!Rita>> We're all set and ready to start chelating. Rita, Channa, and friends: how would you reccomend dosing the binders? With every dose along with the chelator or at the end of the round? How much? (Tom is 9, 80lbs) I'm starting with ALA only and just HATE the thought of that last day of the round when metals are left to redistribute wherever. If I want to start this weekend, I'd probably have to use chlorella or alfalfa. What do you guys think?> > Thanks for anything you have to offer> -Tammy> > Sent from my Kindle Fire> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 nooo....i didnt give binders before every dose! just in day time when i felt he needed it... To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 11:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: Binders for chelation Lol Channa,you are the best. And let me just say one bad-ass warrior mom if you were doing rounds every three hours with binders 20 minutes before hand. That's dedication, folks! Every three hours I can handle - I never sleep much longer than that uninterrupted anyhow...but twenty minutes before...that's pretty damn good. TammySent from my Kindle Fire Sent: Mon Feb 13 19:08:43 EST 2012To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Subject: Re: Re: Binders for chelation Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Ohhhhhhh....lmao....ok...... Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Rita,I have a question about NDF+. I have been using it as a chelator for my son for 2 years. We are only up to 8 drops given at am right now. Do I need an extra binder with it or does it also bind what it excreted. One more thing. I was giving NDF+ just before bedtime and my friend told me that I should not do it as it would cause redistribution ( because we pee out what is excreted and at night we don't pee as often). Can you please share your knowledge on this product. I am also on DAY 4 of the IMMUSIST (1drop given am) and I have not been giving NDF since I started immusist. Somehow I thought that both would be too much to handle. Do you have any suggestions on this? Sorry for too many questions but I am confused. Thanks Ayse Tammy, You're going to love this (sarcastic here)...no, it's never that easy...oh how nice it would be to just follow a lable w/our kids & be able to trust everything w/our kids....but all of them are sooooo different. I kinda think of binders kinda like enzymes. You sorta dose working up (by itself so you see whether their body tollerates it well...because even different binders have their intolerances in our kids..uhhhh). Start slow...work up on the 1st one....if they like that one you can add other one....then add your chelation. I've seen others over the years not have the extra binders & I personally think there are more behaviours & extra chance of redistribution w/o the good binders already on board. Most binders are food, especially if they're from the greens catagory (ie superfoods...the more you know about superfoods, the better ) Sorry, offtrack once again....so like enzymes, it's not just the size of the kid but also what it's working on (ie..the enzymes break down food so the more food you need broken down the more enzymes it's going to take to break it down...so at times I'd only give my son 1 if he was doing a light snack...other times (like Thanksgiving dinner @ my families....) it's a 3 or 4 enzymer meal.....I know, graffic pictures... Now...applied to binders....depends on what they are dumping & how they are acting. If in chelating they are acting off, drooling, very emotional....I'd pretty much figure the mercy is dumping & add in extra things that bind metals....if you want me to resend my research on toxic metal symptoms to refresh, just hollar, I'll dig it up & resend it as refresher. When we went in to do LED detox...Activated Charcoal was always dosed just before.... & sometimes Pectasol in addition. With all of these make sure you are drinking lots of water to flush as well. Dosages for us (13, detoxed for 7 years...phewwwww). W/'s mercury dumping right now (on Immusist, Chilantro, Chlorella, MB12 & periodic lasers....Immusist has made the biggest difference as the rest was being done b/4 the jump last year)...his DD Hair report has him dumping higher than even his hard core chelation days....mercury is into yellow @ .63 & arsenic is right at yellow @.081...other than the magnesium still in the yellow (rrrr...at least it's up from last year so we're making progress... & Finally, zinc is in the white..whoooo, we'll take the improvements, slow as they seem...). With this going on we're ART testing at Chlorella-6 tablets pm, Alfalfa-4 tablets am+4pm. For one of the 3yo's in our WA group he's on 3 tablets Alfalfa & NDF+...I'll have to ask the mom how much but I think this one is dose appropriate for a child on NDF+ (don't know as I don't do this one). Sorry for the book...this stuff is broad & child specific...but hope it helps... Blessings, Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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