Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

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is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:

http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm

I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.

Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g).

You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.

Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?

You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )

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This is interesting to me, also. Tom had responded very well to carnitine at first then after some time began to complain of belly aches. Assuming he was getting more than he needed, I dropped the carnitine and the belly aches disappeared. I was just telling is how he does not care for gf breads and cereals so he avoids them all together. Now I'm wondering if it was a lack of carbs. You're "wikkid smaht" ; )

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I imagine the problem with fully eliminating carbs for a prolonged period of time is that I can see how it would exacerbate mito dysfunction?  (I'm not challenging what you're saying, I'm just talking from my experience with it from my 2 kids...which isn't a whole lot).  I'm not saying that it's not necessary to do it temporarily for some types of situations, because sometimes we need to remove all carbs for a little while if it's perpetuating some GI inflammation, but I'm finding that thinking about how carnitine needs carbs to be work properly, and I'm not even talking about the carnitine that's supplemented -- it's probably true even for the carnitine that's coming from food sources and made by the body -- with a zero carb diet for a prolonged period of time, I wonder if it will affect the way carnitine is utilized, thus, when people are on virtually carb-free diets for any prolonged of time, they may start

experiencing symptoms that mimick carnitine deficiency and it's not that there's an actual carnitine deficiency but more that the body doesn't have the starchy carbohydrate resources to use the carnitine from food sources? 

I had to eliminate starches for my kids for a while because of the GI inflammation that was caused by being gluten-free for close to a year (well, actually, longer if you count being SCD -- it was over a year) and me not knowing that I should have supplemented a good b-complex when I did GFCF initially.  But after a while of carnitine supplementation, I found that it was helpful to reintroduce carbs again and the kids actually started doing better. 

I think a lot of the diets should be viewed as a treatment that has a limited life.  We still eat mostly all whole foods (we still maintain a diet of 90% whole foods and once in a while, they can have a health food store-bought snack with no more than 5 ingredients) but after I re-introduced gluten again, they did much better.  I think diets should be viewed as a form of " medicine " because eliminating things can be as effective as supplementing things, but it should be viewed as a temporary treatment and, IMHO, it shouldn't be something that goes on for years, especially if it's having negative effects. 

And, certainly, if a diet is found to be having negative effects, I would view that as a " medicine " that isn't right for the child and I would 100% alter the diet back to one when when their GI system was doing better.  It kind of gets under my skin when I see people suggesting that I wasn't doing the diet right and there was a cross-contamination issue.  That wasn't our problem.  Our problem was that my son needed the things in wheat and dairy in his diet.  I hate it that there's all this guilt slammed on me for pulling him off the diet.  I got some stories about people who kept saying that my son needed to be GF (the GI specialist, our behavior person from the children's hospital) -- but it was the wrong thing to do to treat the issues we had.  It's definitely something that should not be universally and indefinitely prescribed to all ASD kids. 

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As difficult as Gaps diet is one of the reason I took it up is that there is the two year time line and after that she even goes into how u can reintroduce grains ect back into uo diet...

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Hi is,

 

I'm fairly new to this group and was just reading through your post and all the replies.  I'm intrigued because my son is very much a gut kid, and we have been GFCF for about a year and a half now.  We do strict food rotation, but he is still constantly developing new IgG sensitivities.  We do LDN but I haven't noticed any related improvement in food tolerances (but to be fair, we didn't start it to help with foods).  We are on the LOD, which takes so many " healthy " foods off the table.  Between GFCF, allergies, sensitivities, LOD and rotation, he always seems hungry now.  I've spent evenings and weekends dedicated to food--exactly as was described in earlier posts--and if I am honest, in my darker moments, I feel that my whole existence now is just to meet his special dietary needs.  :(   Simultaneously, both my husband and I started new jobs in the past few months AND we bought a new home and moved AND there were the holidays AND my son and I have been sick on and off for like 8 weeks out of the past 12 AND I found out that I am severly anemic (to the point of needing a transfusion, which I declined) which certainly has contributed to fatigue.  In general, the past year and a half has been so frustrating and tiring, I can't even describe the toll it has taken on our family.  And food is at the center of all of it.

 

Everyone knows so much here that I don't feel qualified to add a lot.     But I wanted to reach out and let you know that you are not alone in your frustrations and experiences, and you are most definitely not a bad mommy!  Anyone who does everything you've done can't possibly be a bad mommy.  Putting forth the time and effort to understand what things are truly good and bad for your child separates you from so many other parents out there, and learning is a process.  Nowadays, when I see families whose young children are chowing down on Mc's, I remember that regardless of the challenges we face, I know I am every bit as good as parent as those are!  Others just happen to be lucky (or not) because the damage happening to their children is not so readily apparent on the outside.  And that is not necessarily a good thing - though admittedly, it is much easier on a daily basis!

 

It sounds like you avoid high oxalates, but several foods that have come up are very high in oxalates.  For example, quinoa, millet, brown rice, amaranth, buckwheat, sweet potatoes, spinach, almonds - all are high.  When we switched to LOD, pretty much all of the grains/carbs left in my son's diet disappeared.  It seems like practically all of the alternative grains, are high-ox, so by default we've ended up creating a diet for him that is, incidentally, full of meats, vegetables and some fruits.  He immediately had huge and unmistakeable gains when I strictly removed all high-ox foods.  We've gone backward recently because I actually think he is getting gluten and/or casein at preschool and haven't figured out how to handle that yet.  Super frustrating situation there.  But before he started preschool, his digestion had drastically increased, and one of the times we saw a marked improvement was when we started LOD.  So I just wanted to mention that since it sounds like the problems you are running into may coincide with consuming oxalates unknowingly since many of the foods you mentioned are high.  If you are trying to do LOD, you may want to go back and reexamine, one by one, the foods in your son's diet to really be sure of the content.  Also, sometime oxalates can be reduced depending on the method of cooking, so just something to also be aware of. 

 

Remember that you are at least taking steps to help your child, whereas so many just accept that " it is what it is " and don't even do biomed, diets, etc.  Despite any setbacks, you are further along that you would be if you had done nothing, and you will never have to look back and ask yourself " what if.... "

 

Hugs,

 

Hi everyone,I know a few of you were discussing the arsenic in organic brown rice issue few days ago. I just feel completely frustrated and overwhelmed. I don't know what to feed my kid. Honestly he has more gut issues than when he used both cow's milk and gluten. Since we limited the diet to gluten free, we are left with rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, quinoa, millet extra. He doesn't tolerate quinoa and millets. Get stomach aches with most of the lentils and beans. He tolerates white rice and white potatoes with no physical symptoms but can't have sweet potatoes. I used to make almond flour bread for him but I stopped as almond is high in oxalates. Now I am not left with a lot of rotating options. My son is 8 1/2 yrs old now and cannot survive without grains. I have been rotating between white rice(basmati) and brown rice pasta by Tinkyada (both organic and the regular). Now it seems like I have even one less option. I read on one of the posts few days ago that it is safer to consume indian/indonesian rice and the one that we get from costco are indian basmati rice. I am tired of being gluten free as honestly I didn't see so many problems when he was eating gluten. Then I see Dr G's diet which allows the white bread. Channa recommended the GAPS diet but there is no way my son would be ok with that. I have limited the quantity of grains in his diet but it is impossible to remove all the grains. I have recently added back one lentil but I have to be very careful with that as he has trouble digesting lentils. Sometimes I really want to give up on the diet and restart everything as this is so frustrating that organic brown rice is even dangerous. I hope Cheryl reads this post and Cheryl if you do, please share with us what you do with your children's diet as I have read your comment several times that diet was not an issue at your house and it didn't help in your case when you tried. I was just getting ready to focus on Feingold diet and now this issue with rice and that is what he eats almost every day and I am pumping my kid with arsenic. This is awful. If anyone has any ideas about the arsenic free rice pasta, please let me know. I am so sorry I keep bothering the group with my frustrations - seems like every few days I am discovering something crazy that I have been doing with my kid (bad mommy!),like I was exposing him to too much phenol without realizing what was going on.

is

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I been off line a couple days as my computer got virus...so if i answer something that already been said forgive me...

i think if kids have gut issues that means bacteria and yeast will usually be an issue....rice sugar grains can feed yeast...high meat intake can feed bacteria (in my opinion)

the yeast and bacteria can cause leaky gut so then you have to be careful with hard to digest foods...any thing that comes out the same way it came in is hard to digest so for example white rice easier then brown rice....cooked veggies easier then raw....along with good enzymes at every meal...

I think a kid with gut issues should have the majority of their diet be cooked veggies with pasture butter all kind of veggies!

meat i would keep limited to small portions.....and if you feel you must do grains then i would also give in small portions....i have heard organic jasmine rice by lundberg to have been tested the least amount of arsenic....but I would have to double check on that i think a company called comsumer alert has that kind of data....

my son did well after some gut healing with organic oatmeal a couple times a week and rice a couple times a week..as well as potatoes...i do a lot of rutabagus and turnip....and califlower all those are lower oxylate then potatoes and not as starchy.....someone correct me if im wrong.

i recently have been blessed with a vitamixer and just started green smoothies at my house...i am keeping my fingers crossed as i know friut and the whole salycate thing has been a issue for me......but

greens blended are so much easier to digest....so i hoping it will go well....if your kid can do bananas i would suggest get a vitamix i know it expensive but on QVC this home shopping network they have a 90 dollars a month plan for vitamix....

any ways we can keep brainstorming...keep askin questions we will figure it out:)

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:07 PMSubject: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Hi everyone,I know a few of you were discussing the arsenic in organic brown rice issue few days ago. I just feel completely frustrated and overwhelmed. I don't know what to feed my kid. Honestly he has more gut issues than when he used both cow's milk and gluten. Since we limited the diet to gluten free, we are left with rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, quinoa, millet extra. He doesn't tolerate quinoa and millets. Get stomach aches with most of the lentils and beans. He tolerates white rice and white potatoes with no physical symptoms but can't have sweet potatoes. I used to make almond flour bread for him but I stopped as almond is high in oxalates. Now I am not left with a lot of rotating options. My son is 8 1/2 yrs old now and cannot survive without grains. I have been rotating between white rice(basmati) and brown rice pasta by Tinkyada (both organic and the regular). Now it seems like I have even one less option. I read on one of the posts

few days ago that it is safer to consume indian/indonesian rice and the one that we get from costco are indian basmati rice. I am tired of being gluten free as honestly I didn't see so many problems when he was eating gluten. Then I see Dr G's diet which allows the white bread. Channa recommended the GAPS diet but there is no way my son would be ok with that. I have limited the quantity of grains in his diet but it is impossible to remove all the grains. I have recently added back one lentil but I have to be very careful with that as he has trouble digesting lentils. Sometimes I really want to give up on the diet and restart everything as this is so frustrating that organic brown rice is even dangerous. I hope Cheryl reads this post and Cheryl if you do, please share with us what you do with your children's diet as I have read your comment several times that diet was not an issue at your house and it didn't help in your case when you tried. I was just

getting ready to focus on Feingold diet and now this issue with rice and that is what he eats almost every day and I am pumping my kid with arsenic. This is awful. If anyone has any ideas about the arsenic free rice pasta, please let me know. I am so sorry I keep bothering the group with my frustrations - seems like every few days I am discovering something crazy that I have been doing with my kid (bad mommy!),like I was exposing him to too much phenol without realizing what was going on. is

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my bad....the company is www.consumerlabs.com it cost money to join but they have tested all the products that they deem safe...i dont know if they have rice on their....i just use jasmine rice by lundberg

chanan

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:41 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

I been off line a couple days as my computer got virus...so if i answer something that already been said forgive me...

i think if kids have gut issues that means bacteria and yeast will usually be an issue....rice sugar grains can feed yeast...high meat intake can feed bacteria (in my opinion)

the yeast and bacteria can cause leaky gut so then you have to be careful with hard to digest foods...any thing that comes out the same way it came in is hard to digest so for example white rice easier then brown rice....cooked veggies easier then raw....along with good enzymes at every meal...

I think a kid with gut issues should have the majority of their diet be cooked veggies with pasture butter all kind of veggies!

meat i would keep limited to small portions.....and if you feel you must do grains then i would also give in small portions....i have heard organic jasmine rice by lundberg to have been tested the least amount of arsenic....but I would have to double check on that i think a company called comsumer alert has that kind of data....

my son did well after some gut healing with organic oatmeal a couple times a week and rice a couple times a week..as well as potatoes...i do a lot of rutabagus and turnip....and califlower all those are lower oxylate then potatoes and not as starchy.....someone correct me if im wrong.

i recently have been blessed with a vitamixer and just started green smoothies at my house...i am keeping my fingers crossed as i know friut and the whole salycate thing has been a issue for me......but

greens blended are so much easier to digest....so i hoping it will go well....if your kid can do bananas i would suggest get a vitamix i know it expensive but on QVC this home shopping network they have a 90 dollars a month plan for vitamix....

any ways we can keep brainstorming...keep askin questions we will figure it out:)

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:07 PMSubject: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Hi everyone,I know a few of you were discussing the arsenic in organic brown rice issue few days ago. I just feel completely frustrated and overwhelmed. I don't know what to feed my kid. Honestly he has more gut issues than when he used both cow's milk and gluten. Since we limited the diet to gluten free, we are left with rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, quinoa, millet extra. He doesn't tolerate quinoa and millets. Get stomach aches with most of the lentils and beans. He tolerates white rice and white potatoes with no physical symptoms but can't have sweet potatoes. I used to make almond flour bread for him but I stopped as almond is high in oxalates. Now I am not left with a lot of rotating options. My son is 8 1/2 yrs old now and cannot survive without grains. I have been rotating between white rice(basmati) and brown rice pasta by Tinkyada (both organic and the regular). Now it seems like I have even one less option. I read on one of the posts

few days ago that it is safer to consume indian/indonesian rice and the one that we get from costco are indian basmati rice. I am tired of being gluten free as honestly I didn't see so many problems when he was eating gluten. Then I see Dr G's diet which allows the white bread. Channa recommended the GAPS diet but there is no way my son would be ok with that. I have limited the quantity of grains in his diet but it is impossible to remove all the grains. I have recently added back one lentil but I have to be very careful with that as he has trouble digesting lentils. Sometimes I really want to give up on the diet and restart everything as this is so frustrating that organic brown rice is even dangerous. I hope Cheryl reads this post and Cheryl if you do, please share with us what you do with your children's diet as I have read your comment several times that diet was not an issue at your house and it didn't help in your case when you tried. I was just

getting ready to focus on Feingold diet and now this issue with rice and that is what he eats almost every day and I am pumping my kid with arsenic. This is awful. If anyone has any ideas about the arsenic free rice pasta, please let me know. I am so sorry I keep bothering the group with my frustrations - seems like every few days I am discovering something crazy that I have been doing with my kid (bad mommy!),like I was exposing him to too much phenol without realizing what was going on. is

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also wanted to mention my son can do small amounts of rice but no way could he ever eat processed rice bread or muffins ect....maybe when it is processed it gets more condensed...just throwin more stuff out there

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:18 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

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great post alberta.....wikkit smaht:)

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:13 AMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

This is interesting to me, also. Tom had responded very well to carnitine at first then after some time began to complain of belly aches. Assuming he was getting more than he needed, I dropped the carnitine and the belly aches disappeared. I was just telling is how he does not care for gf breads and cereals so he avoids them all together. Now I'm wondering if it was a lack of carbs. You're "wikkid smaht" ; )

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Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't

have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the

pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can

recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big

concern with these spreads?

is

>

> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf

flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to

try:

>

>

http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientg\

rains.htm

>

> I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber

and 3x more calcium than rice. You could make pancakes/crepes with them, butter

them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.

>

> Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130

g.) than rice (150 g).

> You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing

buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4

of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to

something good.

>

> Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?

>

> You might find better luck moving away from the " breads " and trying muffins

instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into

the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all

the sugar. ; )

>

> Sent from my Kindle Fire

>

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Alberta, I agree with you about the theory you have about carnitine working

better with carbs. Fist of all, even based on biochemical pathways, it makes

sense to have relatively good carb availability for the mito to complete the

cycles for energy production. And then I have my own experience that in 2010, my

son would get a very limited amount of carb which he took only every 4th day. He

was still very yeasty and at the same time, he had absolutely no energy to do

anything in academics or other activities. He would just sit on the sofa and

stare in one corner or just fidget with some little item. We felt like he was

not even present in the house. Each day was a nightmare for us as my son was

lost and it seemed like he had no life in him. If all this had taken care of

yeast, I wouldn't complain but yeast is still an issue. Maybe he was in distress

as mito function was severely affected. After 10 months on that diet, his OAT

had showed markers for mito dysfunction and oxidative stress and now that you

mention it, I am positive that it was related to lack of carbs affecting his

mito as I believe that my son does have mito dysfunction. I personally believe

in moderation of different food groups. But the problem with gfcf diet is that

although wheat is gone but you start feeding your child other less nutritious

carbs which continues to feed yeast. My son is on ubiquinol now and I am

gradually going to add the remaining cocktail also.

is

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Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;). Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....Many thanks, To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?

is

>

> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:

>

> http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm

>

> I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.

>

> Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g).

> You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.

>

> Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?

>

> You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )

>

> Sent from my Kindle Fire

>

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Be careful cooking with olive oil. It is a low heat or no heat oil. Try palm oil, coconut oil or canola oil. They are high heat oils. When you heat olive oil is changes the molecular structure and can be toxic to our kids. I use cast iron skillets and stone to cook with. You season the cast iron and it will become non stick. I use stone mostly for baking. I place a pizza stone in my oven at all times and put parchment paper on it so is does not absorb food or oils.

Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;).

Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....

Many thanks,

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?is>> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:> > http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm> > I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could

make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.> > Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g). > You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.> > Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?> > You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )> > Sent from my Kindle Fire>

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Thank you Kerri for those tips!! I used coconut oil for awhile and then realized that my kids were sensitive to it and went back to Olive oil, forgetting that one of our Drs. had mentioned something about not cooking with olive oil! Oh, again another mistake:( Any tips on where to buy safe cast iron and stoneware products? Many thanks!! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

,

Be careful cooking with olive oil. It is a low heat or no heat oil. Try palm oil, coconut oil or canola oil. They are high heat oils. When you heat olive oil is changes the molecular structure and can be toxic to our kids. I use cast iron skillets and stone to cook with. You season the cast iron and it will become non stick. I use stone mostly for baking. I place a pizza stone in my oven at all times and put parchment paper on it so is does not absorb food or oils.

Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;).

Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....

Many thanks,

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?is>> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:> > http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm> > I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could

make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.> > Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g). > You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.> > Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?> > You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )> > Sent from my Kindle Fire>

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is, we use soy free earth balance spread. (the red container). There are so many things you can put it in the middle of the panackes....bacon is a yummy sometimes treat. Plain or vanilla yogurt with fruit or berries (not good for trvaling because the pancakes will get soggy) you could do peanutbutter or sunbutter with a little jam. If I messed around enough, i could probably make some sort of yummy paste/spread from an avacado base. If you can do bananas, that would be yummy, too.

, I don't do well on stainless for pancakes. With the exception of my waffle/panackes mix (and the occasional gfcf grilled cheese), all of my other cooking is done with stainless. But those I do on teflon, keeping the heat low.I havent even come close to mastering the art of not burning them otherwise.

-Tammy

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To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Subject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;). Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....Many thanks, To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?

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> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:

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> http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm

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> I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.

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> Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g).

> You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.

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> Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?

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> You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )

>

> Sent from my Kindle Fire

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Tammy,

Have you ever had an IgE test on your child? I was told the IgG and IgM sensitivities were unreliable. We did the IgE and results came back as I expected from his reactions. For instance, on his IgG, his was not sensitive to milk or casien. However on the IgE he is definitely allergic. When had anything with casien in the past he would break out around his mouth and on the backs of his arms and back with a rash. So, the IgE confirmed the allergy. In the past we avioded many things as we were told by our DAN and turns out the ONLY things he reacts to are the ones that were high on the IgE. The IgE shows the true allergies. Hope this makes sense. I use canola oil as a spread for my son. I put it in a stainless pump sprayer and spray it on his toast and sprinkle it with Stevia and cinnamon. It is really good! Also, I use a pancake

mix called 123 Gluten Free. I get it at Whole Foods market. I make them as a treat about every two weeks or so to cut down on sugar and carbs. Also, in my experience, the brown rice breads and products containing anything with BROWN rice or words Whole grain are harder to digest. Ener G brand makes a white rice bread and my son likes it toasted or heated slightly. His gut seems better since starting this.

Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

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Be careful cooking with olive oil. It is a low heat or no heat oil. Try palm oil, coconut oil or canola oil. They are high heat oils. When you heat olive oil is changes the molecular structure and can be toxic to our kids. I use cast iron skillets and stone to cook with. You season the cast iron and it will become non stick. I use stone mostly for baking. I place a pizza stone in my oven at all times and put parchment paper on it so is does not absorb food or oils.

Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;).

Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....

Many thanks,

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?is>> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:> > http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm> > I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could

make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.> > Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g). > You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.> > Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?> > You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )> > Sent from my Kindle

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Tammy,

You may want to try cast iron with oil to season. It is non stick and non toxic. Our DAN doc says "Give your teflon to someone you do not like"

Kerri

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

is, we use soy free earth balance spread. (the red container). There are so many things you can put it in the middle of the panackes....bacon is a yummy sometimes treat. Plain or vanilla yogurt with fruit or berries (not good for trvaling because the pancakes will get soggy) you could do peanutbutter or sunbutter with a little jam. If I messed around enough, i could probably make some sort of yummy paste/spread from an avacado base. If you can do bananas, that would be yummy, too.

, I don't do well on stainless for pancakes. With the exception of my waffle/panackes mix (and the occasional gfcf grilled cheese), all of my other cooking is done with stainless. But those I do on teflon, keeping the heat low.I havent even come close to mastering the art of not burning them otherwise.

-TammySent from my Kindle Fire

Sent: Sat Feb 18 22:29:50 EST 2012To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Subject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;).

Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....

Many thanks,

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?is>> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:> > http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm> > I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could

make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.> > Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g). > You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.> > Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?> > You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )> > Sent from my Kindle Fire>

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Look online to buy. I would buy from USA manufacturer. My son does not do well with coconut either. I use canola but it is corn so if an allergy try something else. Look online for high heat MCT oils.

Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:54 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Thank you Kerri for those tips!! I used coconut oil for awhile and then realized that my kids were sensitive to it and went back to Olive oil, forgetting that one of our Drs. had mentioned something about not cooking with olive oil! Oh, again another mistake:( Any tips on where to buy safe cast iron and stoneware products?

Many thanks!!

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

,

Be careful cooking with olive oil. It is a low heat or no heat oil. Try palm oil, coconut oil or canola oil. They are high heat oils. When you heat olive oil is changes the molecular structure and can be toxic to our kids. I use cast iron skillets and stone to cook with. You season the cast iron and it will become non stick. I use stone mostly for baking. I place a pizza stone in my oven at all times and put parchment paper on it so is does not absorb food or oils.

Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:29 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Yes, thank you Tammy for this info! I have saved this for when I am really going to start cooking again (currently, i am taking the short cut easy route and just cooking meat, veg with olive oil and some fruit....GFCF bread, rice cakes, crackers are all store bought;).

Can you tell me what you use to cook your pancakes/crepes? Can you use a regular stainless steel cooking pan? I am always looking for cookware free of teflon/non stick and it seems like alot of waffle makers etc are made of teflon....

Many thanks,

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:14 PMSubject: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Tammy, I am definitely gonna give buckwheat a try as I remember my son didn't have a positibe IGG on that. I will have to save this post of yours for the pancake idea as it really sounds promising for my son. Also, if you can recommend a safe spread for my son, that would be great. Is oxalate a big concern with these spreads?is>> is, here'a jiffy little article I keep in my files. It lists various gf flours and grains, their nutritional benefits and info and has some recipes to try:> > http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredien2/tp/glutenfreeancientgrains.htm> > I wonder if you've tried working with buckwheat at all? It's got 8x more fiber and 3x more calcium than rice. You could

make pancakes/crepes with them, butter them with a favorite spread and roll them up for a handy little snack.> > Amaranth is also a super good source for fiber with slightly less carbs (130 g.) than rice (150 g). > You might actually comes up with a really great fiber/carb combo by mixing buckwheat and amaranth (for best taste and texture, amaranth should only be 1/4 of your mixture.) Add some chia gel as an egg replacement and you'd be on to something good.> > Also, do you cook Quinoa at all?> > You might find better luck moving away from the "breads" and trying muffins instead. They're more appealing to kids and it's amazing what you can sneak into the mix! Put a happy face on top with a little frosting for the lure w/o all the sugar. ; )> > Sent from my Kindle

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Grapeseed oil tolerates higher heat. Walnut oil, too.

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Lmaoooo......

Imagine a cast iron waffle maker??? It could double as a weapon. #insert evil laughter#

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We could whack the vaccine makers wth.. Insert evil laugh++++Sent from my iPod

Lmaoooo......

Imagine a cast iron waffle maker??? It could double as a weapon. #insert evil laughter#

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Personally, if it came down to teflon as a choice, I would not make waffles anymore. And I would make sure there is not a nut allergy before trying any nut oils. My son is anaphylactic to walnuts. Teflon is very toxic especially in a child who does not excrete toxins.

Kerri

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Lmaoooo......

Imagine a cast iron waffle maker??? It could double as a weapon. #insert evil laughter#Sent from my Kindle Fire

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Ohhh yes. We've tested 'em all. IgG, IgE, IgM....

Cow's milk (not caesin), grapes, aspergillus Niger and wheat were the worst. Though nothing above a II...with the exception of wheat which took a III on one of 'em (cant remember which one). He's completely fine following a dairy infraction. Too much gluten and we'll see behaviors a day or two later. This mostly happens with "birthday party food"....too much of everything he doesn't get to eat at home and he's a hot mess. If he sleeps at a friends and has a piece of gluten toast in the morning with his eggs, he's fine.

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There is dairy in the regular gluten bread. I would not take the chance for a trigger. Only creates inflammation. Until my son is healed, I will stay absolutely completely away from all allergy triggers. Those who have recovered that I have talked to will atest to this. It takes 10 days to completely rid from an allergy immune trigger. Not worth the chance to slip and have a treat to us. Hope all works out for you.

Kerri

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Arsenic in rice - What do I feed my kid?

Ohhh yes. We've tested 'em all. IgG, IgE, IgM....Cow's milk (not caesin), grapes, aspergillus Niger and wheat were the worst. Though nothing above a II...with the exception of wheat which took a III on one of 'em (cant remember which one). He's completely fine following a dairy infraction. Too much gluten and we'll see behaviors a day or two later. This mostly happens with "birthday party food"....too much of everything he doesn't get to eat at home and he's a hot mess. If he sleeps at a friends and has a piece of gluten toast in the morning with his eggs, he's fine. Sent from my Kindle Fire

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Ok...i will give it another go in a regular pan..... : )

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