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It's nearly 4:00 in the AM here and the BP/NP husband has been raging (off and

on) since about 7:30. Holding my own and holding my cool, but good vibes are

welcome! All this b/c I went to visit some PERSONAL friends out of town from

about 2:00 Saturday til 7:30 Sunday. A married couple I've known since college.

Am I wrong to visit my own friends? Am I wrong to think it's okay for him to

have his own friends that I am not close to?

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> It's nearly 4:00 in the AM here and the BP/NP husband has been raging (off and

on) since about 7:30. Holding my own and holding my cool, but good vibes are

welcome! All this b/c I went to visit some PERSONAL friends out of town from

about 2:00 Saturday til 7:30 Sunday. A married couple I've known since college.

Am I wrong to visit my own friends? Am I wrong to think it's okay for him to

have his own friends that I am not close to?

>

No, it's not wrong for you to have your own friends. In a normal marriage,

spouses will communicate about their plans and overnight trips ahead of time. I

think my spouse deserves to know where I'm planning to be and when I plan to

come back, and I expect him to communicate with me about his plans, too. But I

wouldn't think he should be able to control whom I can or cannot see or when.

I'm assuming you talked about your plans with your H ahead of time. If so, I see

no healthy reason for him to be mad about it now. On the other hand, if you just

up and left and didn't discuss your plans to stay overnight, then I think some

anger would be justifiable in that situation.

Still, healthy anger isn't raging for hours. I'm concerned for you. Do you have

somewhere safe you can stay the next time he acts that way? Do you have a T you

can talk to?

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I agree on all counts:

Its normal and OK for a married couple to each have some friends that they spend

time with separately from their spouse.

Its normal and OK to work out your social arrangements ahead of time with your

spouse out of courtesy and consideration, so your spouse knows where your are

and with whom so they can reach you if there is some need to.

It is NOT NORMAL AND NOT OK for anyone to scream and rage at you whether the

rager is your spouse, your parent, your child, your sib.

It is alarming and a big red flag of danger that the raging and screaming would

go on for hours.

If that were happening to me I'd leave the house the minute it became clear that

the rager was not rational enough to hear me or unable to calm himself or

herself down. Just leave. Its just too likely that someone in that level of

irrational rage will work himself or herself into a physical attack on you.

There are WTO Support Groups specifically for those in a chosen relationship

with a person with bpd, in three separate categories, I believe: a group for

those who are choosing to stay married to their bpd spouse, a group for those

who are undecided about whether to stay in the marriage or not, and a group for

those who are deciding to separate or divorce their bpd spouse.

You will probably be able to get more responses from others who are married to

someone with bpd at one of those support Groups, as this one is mostly about

un-chosen relationships: managing parents and sibs with bpd.

Best of luck to you,

-Annie

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> > It's nearly 4:00 in the AM here and the BP/NP husband has been raging (off

and on) since about 7:30. Holding my own and holding my cool, but good vibes are

welcome! All this b/c I went to visit some PERSONAL friends out of town from

about 2:00 Saturday til 7:30 Sunday. A married couple I've known since college.

Am I wrong to visit my own friends? Am I wrong to think it's okay for him to

have his own friends that I am not close to?

> >

>

> No, it's not wrong for you to have your own friends. In a normal marriage,

spouses will communicate about their plans and overnight trips ahead of time. I

think my spouse deserves to know where I'm planning to be and when I plan to

come back, and I expect him to communicate with me about his plans, too. But I

wouldn't think he should be able to control whom I can or cannot see or when.

>

> I'm assuming you talked about your plans with your H ahead of time. If so, I

see no healthy reason for him to be mad about it now. On the other hand, if you

just up and left and didn't discuss your plans to stay overnight, then I think

some anger would be justifiable in that situation.

>

> Still, healthy anger isn't raging for hours. I'm concerned for you. Do you

have somewhere safe you can stay the next time he acts that way? Do you have a T

you can talk to?

>

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