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Hello to everyone and I like to say I am so grsteful that I have found this

group. I am in a terrible situation. I have found out that my mum may be

suffering from BPD. I found out this from my sister's therapist and my head is

spinning with the bewilderment. In order to find some answers, I bought " Stop

Walking on Eggshells " . What I have read describes my mum's and my own behaviour

perfectly. I found this group from the book and I am glad I bought it.

My mum has been abusing me pretty much all my life. She would explode into a

rage at the drop of a hat, and at the most insignificant of things. And she has

been only getting worse. She doesn't want me to have any friends and she hates

me talking to the rest of the family. She tried all my childhood life to stop

communication between me and the rest of my relatives, even hiding me from them

at times. She just wanted me all to herself. If I did not comply to her needs,

she would yell and scream, accuse me I was behaving that way just to hurt her.

She would tell me that I don't love her and she would cut me down so low, that I

believed I was a monster out to hurt and destroy her. When I tried to walk away,

she would beg me to come back or even resort to threats of suicide.

There was no way out for me. I felt like a slave to mum's emotions and I

constantly feared every time I walked through the door she would explode at me

for something I did to hurt her. She had complete control of every aspect of my

life. I wasn't allowed to have my own life. Then she started threatening to harm

me and that was when I had enough. I left home when she was out one day. I know

its sounds terrible to leave your mum that way but I felt like I had no choice.

I just wanted to escape from the constant abuse, fear and torment.

I have since found out from the family that my case is not the first. My sister

went through the same ordeal with similar concequences. The rest of the family

have put up with mum's abuse for almost 5 decades. They have all diferent

opinions about mum's mental illness and I find it frustrating that they don't

want to be part of yet another saga. I have had to give up uni because of my

dire situation and I am scared stiff of my mum. I have not seen her since the

day I left, because I'm too terrified as to how she'll react to me. I feel like

such a coward.

But since I have been reading this book, I now feel ashamed of what I have done.

I feel like a failure and that no one will ever love me because of what I have

done. I just don't know what to do any more. To make things worse, I myself

exibit some of the signs of BPD in their early stages. I don't know who I am

anymore. I now have to find the real me and that isn't easy after years of mum

saying that I am a monster. Please is there anyone who can help me?

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I am so self critical. It has improved for me in the last few years because I am

surrounded by people who consistently tell me I am worthwhile, but I have some

deeply ingrained and terrible beliefs about myself.

I am working with a therapist on retraining myself to not be self critical, and

seeing myself differently it is rewarding and empowering.

if you realize you have a problem the battle is already half won.

my life is in part history repeating itself too. I have not discussed BPD with

most of my FOO(family of origin). just the ones I felt would support me. you

need validation. but sometimes foo's can't give it. you are allowed to have

feelings, but resist the need to explain them (this is something I am struggling

with too) tred softly the abuse people in nada's wake have suffered is scary,

and hard for others to relive and talk about too.

sounds like you need boundaries. me too. my nada will likely plow through a

boundary I have tried to set when she calls tomorrow. they do that. I am

planning to hang up. we will see if I am as tough in action as theory.

I am working on deciding what specific behaviors I will not tolerate any more,

how to present the boundary and what the consequences will be. then how I will

deal with the backlash. that is the hard part. " Stop Walking on Eggshells "

(swoe) has good advice.

hang in there. vent often this is a great group.

I am right there with you.

Meikjn

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> Hello to everyone and I like to say I am so grsteful that I have found this

group. I am in a terrible situation. I have found out that my mum may be

suffering from BPD. I found out this from my sister's therapist and my head is

spinning with the bewilderment. In order to find some answers, I bought " Stop

Walking on Eggshells " . What I have read describes my mum's and my own behaviour

perfectly. I found this group from the book and I am glad I bought it.

>

> My mum has been abusing me pretty much all my life. She would explode into a

rage at the drop of a hat, and at the most insignificant of things. And she has

been only getting worse. She doesn't want me to have any friends and she hates

me talking to the rest of the family. She tried all my childhood life to stop

communication between me and the rest of my relatives, even hiding me from them

at times. She just wanted me all to herself. If I did not comply to her needs,

she would yell and scream, accuse me I was behaving that way just to hurt her.

She would tell me that I don't love her and she would cut me down so low, that I

believed I was a monster out to hurt and destroy her. When I tried to walk away,

she would beg me to come back or even resort to threats of suicide.

>

> There was no way out for me. I felt like a slave to mum's emotions and I

constantly feared every time I walked through the door she would explode at me

for something I did to hurt her. She had complete control of every aspect of my

life. I wasn't allowed to have my own life. Then she started threatening to harm

me and that was when I had enough. I left home when she was out one day. I know

its sounds terrible to leave your mum that way but I felt like I had no choice.

I just wanted to escape from the constant abuse, fear and torment.

>

> I have since found out from the family that my case is not the first. My

sister went through the same ordeal with similar concequences. The rest of the

family have put up with mum's abuse for almost 5 decades. They have all diferent

opinions about mum's mental illness and I find it frustrating that they don't

want to be part of yet another saga. I have had to give up uni because of my

dire situation and I am scared stiff of my mum. I have not seen her since the

day I left, because I'm too terrified as to how she'll react to me. I feel like

such a coward.

>

> But since I have been reading this book, I now feel ashamed of what I have

done. I feel like a failure and that no one will ever love me because of what I

have done. I just don't know what to do any more. To make things worse, I myself

exibit some of the signs of BPD in their early stages. I don't know who I am

anymore. I now have to find the real me and that isn't easy after years of mum

saying that I am a monster. Please is there anyone who can help me?

>

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Welcome to the Group. You've found a bunch of other people who have experienced

similar kinds of distressing, abusive behavior from our parents. That's good

that you have started educating yourself about borderline personality disorder,

that's one way to start realizing that your mother was in all probability

mentally ill before you were born, so there is nothing for you to feel guilty

about RE protecting yourself from further abuse.

RE wondering about your own behaviors: the fact that you already have insight

about some of your own behaviors (you find some of your behaviors distressing)

means that its not very likely that you have bpd. Those with personality

disorder usually aren't capable of introspection and personal insight, and can't

or won't accept any responsibility for how their behaviors negatively impact

others. Those with pds don't seem to worry very much about how other people

feel; they are too focused on their own needs and feelings.

If you have access to a therapist who is familiar with treating the adult

children of personality disordered parents, I would encourage you to take

advantage of that opportunity.

From my point of view, its really difficult to overcome conditioning

/programming /brainwashing that started at birth, drilled into you (and most of

us here) that somehow it is your responsibility to take care of your mother's

feelings and/or needs. But the reality is that you were the child, and the

child is NOT responsible for being her mommy's mother, or rescuer, therapist,

best friend, substitute spouse or nanny. Its actually very, very abusive for a

parent to saddle her own offspring with those expectations. Its backwards. Its

unnatural. Its mentally ill to do that to a child.

So, anyway. It takes time to process all this stuff, and it takes time to begin

to step back emotionally from your earlier perspective on things: that being a

child's perspective.

As our communal " big brother " here, Doug, reminds us often: be gentle with

yourself.

You have done nothing wrong, nothing to feel guilty about. Children are

supposed to grow up, leave their parents' home and take flight, leading their

own joyful, productive, self-reliant adult lives.

I hope you can receive some virtual emotional support, validation, peace, and

healing from this Group; I sure have. They're a wonderful bunch of people.

-Annie

>

> Hello to everyone and I like to say I am so grsteful that I have found this

group. I am in a terrible situation. I have found out that my mum may be

suffering from BPD. I found out this from my sister's therapist and my head is

spinning with the bewilderment. In order to find some answers, I bought " Stop

Walking on Eggshells " . What I have read describes my mum's and my own behaviour

perfectly. I found this group from the book and I am glad I bought it.

>

> My mum has been abusing me pretty much all my life. She would explode into a

rage at the drop of a hat, and at the most insignificant of things. And she has

been only getting worse. She doesn't want me to have any friends and she hates

me talking to the rest of the family. She tried all my childhood life to stop

communication between me and the rest of my relatives, even hiding me from them

at times. She just wanted me all to herself. If I did not comply to her needs,

she would yell and scream, accuse me I was behaving that way just to hurt her.

She would tell me that I don't love her and she would cut me down so low, that I

believed I was a monster out to hurt and destroy her. When I tried to walk away,

she would beg me to come back or even resort to threats of suicide.

>

> There was no way out for me. I felt like a slave to mum's emotions and I

constantly feared every time I walked through the door she would explode at me

for something I did to hurt her. She had complete control of every aspect of my

life. I wasn't allowed to have my own life. Then she started threatening to harm

me and that was when I had enough. I left home when she was out one day. I know

its sounds terrible to leave your mum that way but I felt like I had no choice.

I just wanted to escape from the constant abuse, fear and torment.

>

> I have since found out from the family that my case is not the first. My

sister went through the same ordeal with similar concequences. The rest of the

family have put up with mum's abuse for almost 5 decades. They have all diferent

opinions about mum's mental illness and I find it frustrating that they don't

want to be part of yet another saga. I have had to give up uni because of my

dire situation and I am scared stiff of my mum. I have not seen her since the

day I left, because I'm too terrified as to how she'll react to me. I feel like

such a coward.

>

> But since I have been reading this book, I now feel ashamed of what I have

done. I feel like a failure and that no one will ever love me because of what I

have done. I just don't know what to do any more. To make things worse, I myself

exibit some of the signs of BPD in their early stages. I don't know who I am

anymore. I now have to find the real me and that isn't easy after years of mum

saying that I am a monster. Please is there anyone who can help me?

>

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Hi and I feel like I can so relate to your anxiety, self doubt and fears, both

of you. First of all know that although you feel scared and alone now, you are

not bad people, nor are you alone. Many of us, unfortunately, are in the same

boat. I agree that Walking on Eggshells is an excellent resource, and I also

highly recommend you both read a book by Dr. Black called " Changing

Course - Recovering from Abandonment and Loss " . It directly addresses setting

boundries, identifying what has happened to you in the past that stunts your

personal growth and positive self image, embracing that, mothering yourself, and

moving on in a stronger, empowered way and be able to identify and set healthy

boundries that you feel confident in and not guilty about. I read it about five

years ago and my kids and husband (the only ones who I talk to about my BP nada

and MIL) told me that I seemed much happier and more confident. I felt like not

only could I set boundries and say no to nada and MIL, but I felt like for the

first time it was what I had to do to be healthy and I had a clue as to how to

proceed. Of course then I had to deal (and still do) with being punished for not

doing what I used to do, that is just take it and not honor my own boundries,

but we get punished anyway for nonesense, but now if I get punished emotionally

for setting my own boundries, at least I feel as if I am protecting me and mine

and doing what I can. I feel better about me. And honestly now that I know more

about BP, I almost feel as if when I am getting crap from nada and MIL, then

that is a sign that I am healthy.

A big line for me is respect. When nada and MIL now disrespect me or mine I can

usually at least idenify it and call it what it is, usually. Sometimes still

they surprise me and get me off guard and I don't, but I am getting better.

I find that as I get older and the longer I know about BP, I am remembering more

times when nada was mean and random times she would explode and now see them

through a new, more informed lens. It amazes me how much crap I got thrown my

way. I am now dealing with my anger about it, and I know it is part of the

disease and supposidly not her fault, or choice, but seperating myself from the

pain it caused takes time and I, like all of you, still have times that I am

intensely sad about missing what I thought I had, but didn't. Boy, isn't it

always about them! And the projecting of personal traits and actions is almost

comical, sad, but comical.

So just be kind to yourself. You are not a bad person, nor are you to blame here

Chookrscool. Remember you are a good person and you are not a monster, you are

to be respected and cherished and you deserve to be treated with kindness and

understanding. It sounds to me like if you are open to it, along with reading

more you would really benefit from seeing a counselor who is knowledgable about

BP. Having an objective person who could really listen to you and help you

navigate right now would be a big help to you. I find that when dealing with FOO

and BP, it is nearly impossible to share this with anyone and have them

understand. It is hard to trust that others are understanding your meaning and

they just can't get it, heck we can't and we're in it! This webpage helps alot,

but sometimes having an objective professional who will totally listen to YOU

and focus on helping you on your journey is what you need, and you deserve it.

Thinking of you both, and wishing you self love and peace.

> >

> > Hello to everyone and I like to say I am so grsteful that I have found this

group. I am in a terrible situation. I have found out that my mum may be

suffering from BPD. I found out this from my sister's therapist and my head is

spinning with the bewilderment. In order to find some answers, I bought " Stop

Walking on Eggshells " . What I have read describes my mum's and my own behaviour

perfectly. I found this group from the book and I am glad I bought it.

> >

> > My mum has been abusing me pretty much all my life. She would explode into a

rage at the drop of a hat, and at the most insignificant of things. And she has

been only getting worse. She doesn't want me to have any friends and she hates

me talking to the rest of the family. She tried all my childhood life to stop

communication between me and the rest of my relatives, even hiding me from them

at times. She just wanted me all to herself. If I did not comply to her needs,

she would yell and scream, accuse me I was behaving that way just to hurt her.

She would tell me that I don't love her and she would cut me down so low, that I

believed I was a monster out to hurt and destroy her. When I tried to walk away,

she would beg me to come back or even resort to threats of suicide.

> >

> > There was no way out for me. I felt like a slave to mum's emotions and I

constantly feared every time I walked through the door she would explode at me

for something I did to hurt her. She had complete control of every aspect of my

life. I wasn't allowed to have my own life. Then she started threatening to harm

me and that was when I had enough. I left home when she was out one day. I know

its sounds terrible to leave your mum that way but I felt like I had no choice.

I just wanted to escape from the constant abuse, fear and torment.

> >

> > I have since found out from the family that my case is not the first. My

sister went through the same ordeal with similar concequences. The rest of the

family have put up with mum's abuse for almost 5 decades. They have all diferent

opinions about mum's mental illness and I find it frustrating that they don't

want to be part of yet another saga. I have had to give up uni because of my

dire situation and I am scared stiff of my mum. I have not seen her since the

day I left, because I'm too terrified as to how she'll react to me. I feel like

such a coward.

> >

> > But since I have been reading this book, I now feel ashamed of what I have

done. I feel like a failure and that no one will ever love me because of what I

have done. I just don't know what to do any more. To make things worse, I myself

exibit some of the signs of BPD in their early stages. I don't know who I am

anymore. I now have to find the real me and that isn't easy after years of mum

saying that I am a monster. Please is there anyone who can help me?

> >

>

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> Then she started threatening to harm me and that was when I had enough. I left

home when she was out one day. I know its sounds terrible to leave your mum that

way but I felt like I had no choice. I just wanted to escape from the constant

abuse, fear and torment.

>

Who says that's terrible? I think it sounds brave and sensible! You got yourself

out of harm's way, and that was the right thing to do!

When you're raised by someone with BPD, you end up learning a lot of their

(dysfunctional) coping skills. It's a good idea to get into Therapy just to

learn new ones. I understand, I was like that too and now am much better.

This is not your fault, the shame isn't yours--it's your mothers--and you don't

have to take it on for her. You are not a bad daughter or a bad person, and it's

okay if you never want to speak to her again.

I do recommend a T, though. It is tremendously helpful. I can't imagine how I

would have ever gotten through this without mine.

Sveta

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