Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 That is quite possible. See the online article at this address. http://www.colemannews.com/ " A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. " Proverbs 22:3 Subject: County EMS To: texasems-l Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:23 AM I hear tell County EMS is closing their doors? I thought this service was a hospital based service. sure will be sad for the residence if this is in fact the case. Anyone heard any news? Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. I was one of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it went from being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we worked a lot of hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of , and now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers that be, becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 > > I hear tell County EMS is closing their doors? I thought this service was a hospital based service. sure will be sad for the residence if this is in fact the case. Anyone heard any news? > Eddie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a reasonable time yet none will come. I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold water in court. Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds from the budget. Sorry for rambling. Renny > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. I was one > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it went from > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we worked a lot of > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of , and > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers that be, > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What every happen to the State saying that the Counties have to provide some kind of services. Becat ________________________________ From: texasems-l on behalf of spenair Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:38 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: County EMS This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a reasonable time yet none will come. I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold water in court. Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds from the budget. Sorry for rambling. Renny > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. I was one > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it went from > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we worked a lot of > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of , and > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers that be, > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020 <http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020> ) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 This state does not mandate EMS. I've worked in 4 states, and none of them mandated EMS. That is part of the problem. -- -- > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > I was one > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > went from > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > worked a lot of > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > , and > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > that be, > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up > for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020 <http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020> ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 In order for the State to say that, it will require legislative action. Every time such a measure has been attempted, the Texas Municipal League, which represents a majority of the cities in Texas, the associations representing county commissioners and judges, and other organizations controlled by local politicians have fought the measure tooth and nail. THEY HAVE THE POWER. EMS does not. It will take a major public uprising and revolt at the grass roots level ever to get this through, and I do not see that happening. People are quite ignorant about the EMS system, and all they see is a tax increase if service were made mandatory. Local officials still rely on private companies to jump in and take over the services either free or with a low subsidy, and there are plenty of EMS Company Wannabees that will show up and run a fly by night operation to grab some bucks. They will pay their medics like wetback labor, use worn-out ambulances, and the county/city officials will say, " See, we have EMS service. There's no need for a state law. " Try getting an emergency service district through at a time when gas is $4.00 a gallon. These are the realities. I do not see the Texas legislature making EMS a required public service as long as there are private services that will show up to do it. Just wait. Soon you'll hear that " Bubba and LeRoy's EMS and Lawn Service " is coming to County. Or, more probably, " Abdul and Amahd's Nigerian Ambulance. " GG GG > > What every happen to the State saying that the Counties have to provide some > kind of services. > Becat > > ____________ ________ ________ _ > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem on behalf of spenair > Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:38 AM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: Re: County EMS > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > reasonable time yet none will come. > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > water in court. > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > Renny > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > medicmomx4@. , medicm > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > I was one > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > went from > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > worked a lot of > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > , and > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > that be, > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.fanhohttp://www.fanhohttp://www.f < > http://www.fanhousehttp://www.fanhohttp://www.fanhohttp://www.f> ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 This state doesn't require any public safety service...except an elected sheriff.? DPS was created by legislation, but PD, FD, Public Works, etc are not required or mandated by the state for any jurisdiction...and the danger of attempting this is we may actually shine light on this fact...that we are not required and potentially damage some of us while attempting to save others. The other issue is when we talk " essential service " ...we get into a big can of worms.? What is essential?? Water, Fire Department, Street repair, EMS, code enforcement, law enforcement????? I guarantee that all of these groups sure feel they are essential...and depending upon circumstances and the time of day, our public feels each of these may be more essential than others.? It is not an easy answer or easy solution... Dudley Re: County EMS This state does not mandate EMS. I've worked in 4 states, and none of them mandated EMS. That is part of the problem. -- -- > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > I was one > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > went from > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > worked a lot of > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > , and > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > that be, > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up > for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020 <http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020> ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 , What I was referring to, perhaps maladroitly, is the influx of Africans who are applying for and receiving licenses for fly-by-night ambulance services. Ask anybody at DSHS about that. If they were Brazilian, I would have targeted them. And yes, maybe Chuck Curtis is still around and ready to surface again with the 1,000th version of SLEAZE EMS. You did not take umbrage at my use of Bubba and LeRoy, did you? So it's OK to make fun of fat redneck stereotypes but not of anybody else? I hate political correctness. It's time we got over that. It's satire, my friend. Have you seen the cover of The New Yorker this week? While I didn't think it was that funny, it struck a blow for freedom of speech. We need more of that and less political correctness. BTW, I am about the least racist, least bigoted person you'll ever meet, but I'm sick of being in the only class of people that can be made fun of. I appreciate your thoughts, and I know your motives are noble. But, for gosh's sakes, lighten up. OK. You win. Let's change that to Laverne and Shirley's High Hopes Ambulance, or, wait, better yet, Wes's Jewish Pay-Up-Front EMS. Or you can call it Gene and Donn's Mule Driven Cowboy EMS. Or maybe Border Medifraud Ambulance Specialists. Or Dallas County's 200th EMS Service--We Specialize in Fraud. See, I'm an equal opportunity insulter. If a service is on the up and up, it will be known for that, regardless of who runs it. Trust me. Good news travels fast. Now I must go. I have to contact Mr. Cedric Stonehinge, Personal Representative of Botswana Nkume, deposed King of Kenya, who is holding the $26,000,000.00 in funds in the King's name, which only I can liberate from the Bank of Uganda. I can't wait to get my half. Respectfully, Gene > > Gene > > Although I agree with most of your comments, I would like to remind > you that words like " Abdul and Amahd's Nigerian Ambulance " > Have no place on this list server. > > I read and listen to a lot of what you post, and I agree with most of > it. I realize it was a written as a joke yet it send a subtle message > to the young medics that people or persons from another country who > own or operate a company are not to be trusted and they are operating > with no desire to help people or the communities they serve. I submit > to you this is not true. I realize it occurs, but please remember a > lot of the owner/operators from your generation of providers where > crooks also, I remember running to the bank to cash my pay check > before my coworkers, so it would not bounce. > > This profession is about helping people and communities not bashing > someone because of their ethnicity. Thank goodness for the private > companies who do what they do. > > I am ready for your lashing, but I stand by what I have written. > > Miles > Longview, Texas > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:49 PM, <wegandy1938@wegandy> wrote: > > In order for the State to say that, it will require legislative action. > > Every time such a measure has been attempted, the Texas Municipal League, > > which > > represents a majority of the cities in Texas, the associations > representing > > county commissioners and judges, and other organizations controlled by > local > > politicians have fought the measure tooth and nail. THEY HAVE THE POWER. > EMS > > does not. > > > > It will take a major public uprising and revolt at the grass roots level > > ever > > to get this through, and I do not see that happening. People are quite > > ignorant about the EMS system, and all they see is a tax increase if > service > > were > > made mandatory. > > > > Local officials still rely on private companies to jump in and take over > the > > services either free or with a low subsidy, and there are plenty of EMS > > Company Wannabees that will show up and run a fly by night operation to > grab > > some > > bucks. They will pay their medics like wetback labor, use worn-out > > ambulances, > > and the county/city officials will say, " See, we have EMS service. There's > > no need for a state law. " > > > > Try getting an emergency service district through at a time when gas is > > $4.00 > > a gallon. These are the realities. > > > > I do not see the Texas legislature making EMS a required public service as > > long as there are private services that will show up to do it. > > > > Just wait. Soon you'll hear that " Bubba and LeRoy's EMS and Lawn Service " > > is coming to County. Or, more probably, " Abdul and Amahd's > Nigerian > > Ambulance. " > > > > GG > > > > GG > > > > > >> > >> What every happen to the State saying that the Counties have to provide > >> some > >> kind of services. > >> Becat > >> > >> ____________ ________ ________ _ > >> > >> From: texasems-l@yahoogro From: texasems-l@yahoogro<w > >> Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:38 AM > >> To: texasems-l@yahoogro To: te > >> Subject: Re: County EMS > >> > >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > >> reasonable time yet none will come. > >> > >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > >> water in court. > >> > >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > >> > >> Renny > >> > >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > >> medicmomx4@. , medicm > >> > > >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > >> I was one > >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > >> went from > >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > >> worked a lot of > >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > >> , and > >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > >> that be, > >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > >> > > >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > >> for > >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > >> > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// < > >> http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp://> ) > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What's racial about them? Huh? If my neighbor's name just happens to be Abdul, does that guarantee he's of a certain race or religion? All that's in your mind, not mine. How about Bubba? What race is he? How about LeRoy? What race is he? You're assigning racial connotations to words based on YOUR prejudices, not mine. Don't accuse me of racist remarks until you know me. After all, I didn't drop the bomb like did, now did I? Nor would I. As a lawyer would say, you are making assumptions not based on evidence. G > > I understand the points you make.? However, I was also offended by your > racial remarks.? No place for that here or anywhere else in a professionals > vocabulary. > > Bram Duffee, MS, LP > > Re: County EMS > > > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > > reasonable time yet none will come. > > > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > > water in court. > > > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > > > Renny > > > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > > medicmomx4@. , medicm > > > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > > I was one > > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > > went from > > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > > worked a lot of > > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > > , and > > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > > that be, > > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > > for > > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// < > > http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp://> ) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Gene Although I agree with most of your comments, I would like to remind you that words like " Abdul and Amahd's Nigerian Ambulance " Have no place on this list server. I read and listen to a lot of what you post, and I agree with most of it. I realize it was a written as a joke yet it send a subtle message to the young medics that people or persons from another country who own or operate a company are not to be trusted and they are operating with no desire to help people or the communities they serve. I submit to you this is not true. I realize it occurs, but please remember a lot of the owner/operators from your generation of providers where crooks also, I remember running to the bank to cash my pay check before my coworkers, so it would not bounce. This profession is about helping people and communities not bashing someone because of their ethnicity. Thank goodness for the private companies who do what they do. I am ready for your lashing, but I stand by what I have written. Miles Longview, Texas > In order for the State to say that, it will require legislative action. > Every time such a measure has been attempted, the Texas Municipal League, > which > represents a majority of the cities in Texas, the associations representing > county commissioners and judges, and other organizations controlled by local > politicians have fought the measure tooth and nail. THEY HAVE THE POWER. EMS > does not. > > It will take a major public uprising and revolt at the grass roots level > ever > to get this through, and I do not see that happening. People are quite > ignorant about the EMS system, and all they see is a tax increase if service > were > made mandatory. > > Local officials still rely on private companies to jump in and take over the > services either free or with a low subsidy, and there are plenty of EMS > Company Wannabees that will show up and run a fly by night operation to grab > some > bucks. They will pay their medics like wetback labor, use worn-out > ambulances, > and the county/city officials will say, " See, we have EMS service. There's > no need for a state law. " > > Try getting an emergency service district through at a time when gas is > $4.00 > a gallon. These are the realities. > > I do not see the Texas legislature making EMS a required public service as > long as there are private services that will show up to do it. > > Just wait. Soon you'll hear that " Bubba and LeRoy's EMS and Lawn Service " > is coming to County. Or, more probably, " Abdul and Amahd's Nigerian > Ambulance. " > > GG > > GG > > >> >> What every happen to the State saying that the Counties have to provide >> some >> kind of services. >> Becat >> >> ____________ ________ ________ _ >> >> From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem on behalf of spenair >> Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:38 AM >> To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem >> Subject: Re: County EMS >> >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a >> reasonable time yet none will come. >> >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold >> water in court. >> >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling. >> >> Renny >> >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , >> medicmomx4@. , medicm >> > >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. >> I was one >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it >> went from >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we >> worked a lot of >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of >> , and >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers >> that be, >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. >> > >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT >> > >> > >> > >> > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live >> for >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. >> > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.fanhohttp://www.fanhohttp://www.f < >> http://www.fanhousehttp://www.fanhohttp://www.fanhohttp://www.f> ) >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I understand the points you make.? However, I was also offended by your racial remarks.? No place for that here or anywhere else in a professionals vocabulary. Bram Duffee, MS, LP Re: County EMS > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > reasonable time yet none will come. > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > water in court. > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > Renny > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > medicmomx4@. , medicm > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > I was one > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > went from > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > worked a lot of > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > , and > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > that be, > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.fanhohttp://www.fanhohttp://www.f < > http://www.fanhousehttp://www.fanhohttp://www.fanhohttp://www.f> ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I KNOW Bubba and Leroy took an EMT-B class of mine and guest what...... best damn students I've had ages. They gave a Damn period. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Home Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. In a message dated 7/23/2008 12:22:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, stevemboykin@... writes: Hey Gene, I think Ahbdul and Ahmed were ECA students of mine about 10 years back. So they finally started their service.... Kewl! ;-) Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Gandy fails the political correctness test. People are offended. People berate Gandy for lacking sensitivity. Abdul and Amahd laugh on their way to the bank. Clueless. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Knowing Gene for a very long time I would submit that he is not prejudice in any way, he hates everyone!!!!! Hey, Wait! That isn’t a bad stand to take!! LOL Lee From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: Re: County EMS , What I was referring to, perhaps maladroitly, is the influx of Africans who are applying for and receiving licenses for fly-by-night ambulance services. Ask anybody at DSHS about that. If they were Brazilian, I would have targeted them. And yes, maybe Chuck Curtis is still around and ready to surface again with the 1,000th version of SLEAZE EMS. You did not take umbrage at my use of Bubba and LeRoy, did you? So it's OK to make fun of fat redneck stereotypes but not of anybody else? I hate political correctness. It's time we got over that. It's satire, my friend. Have you seen the cover of The New Yorker this week? While I didn't think it was that funny, it struck a blow for freedom of speech. We need more of that and less political correctness. BTW, I am about the least racist, least bigoted person you'll ever meet, but I'm sick of being in the only class of people that can be made fun of. I appreciate your thoughts, and I know your motives are noble. But, for gosh's sakes, lighten up. OK. You win. Let's change that to Laverne and Shirley's High Hopes Ambulance, or, wait, better yet, Wes's Jewish Pay-Up-Front EMS. Or you can call it Gene and Donn's Mule Driven Cowboy EMS. Or maybe Border Medifraud Ambulance Specialists. Or Dallas County's 200th EMS Service--We Specialize in Fraud. See, I'm an equal opportunity insulter. If a service is on the up and up, it will be known for that, regardless of who runs it. Trust me. Good news travels fast. Now I must go. I have to contact Mr. Cedric Stonehinge, Personal Representative of Botswana Nkume, deposed King of Kenya, who is holding the $26,000,000.00 in funds in the King's name, which only I can liberate from the Bank of Uganda. I can't wait to get my half. Respectfully, Gene In a message dated 7/22/08 5:46:21 PM, scottywmiles@... <mailto:scottywmiles%40gmail.com> writes: > > Gene > > Although I agree with most of your comments, I would like to remind > you that words like " Abdul and Amahd's Nigerian Ambulance " > Have no place on this list server. > > I read and listen to a lot of what you post, and I agree with most of > it. I realize it was a written as a joke yet it send a subtle message > to the young medics that people or persons from another country who > own or operate a company are not to be trusted and they are operating > with no desire to help people or the communities they serve. I submit > to you this is not true. I realize it occurs, but please remember a > lot of the owner/operators from your generation of providers where > crooks also, I remember running to the bank to cash my pay check > before my coworkers, so it would not bounce. > > This profession is about helping people and communities not bashing > someone because of their ethnicity. Thank goodness for the private > companies who do what they do. > > I am ready for your lashing, but I stand by what I have written. > > Miles > Longview, Texas > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:49 PM, <wegandy1938@wegandy> wrote: > > In order for the State to say that, it will require legislative action. > > Every time such a measure has been attempted, the Texas Municipal League, > > which > > represents a majority of the cities in Texas, the associations > representing > > county commissioners and judges, and other organizations controlled by > local > > politicians have fought the measure tooth and nail. THEY HAVE THE POWER. > EMS > > does not. > > > > It will take a major public uprising and revolt at the grass roots level > > ever > > to get this through, and I do not see that happening. People are quite > > ignorant about the EMS system, and all they see is a tax increase if > service > > were > > made mandatory. > > > > Local officials still rely on private companies to jump in and take over > the > > services either free or with a low subsidy, and there are plenty of EMS > > Company Wannabees that will show up and run a fly by night operation to > grab > > some > > bucks. They will pay their medics like wetback labor, use worn-out > > ambulances, > > and the county/city officials will say, " See, we have EMS service. There's > > no need for a state law. " > > > > Try getting an emergency service district through at a time when gas is > > $4.00 > > a gallon. These are the realities. > > > > I do not see the Texas legislature making EMS a required public service as > > long as there are private services that will show up to do it. > > > > Just wait. Soon you'll hear that " Bubba and LeRoy's EMS and Lawn Service " > > is coming to County. Or, more probably, " Abdul and Amahd's > Nigerian > > Ambulance. " > > > > GG > > > > GG > > In a message dated 7/22/08 7:33:57 AM, becakf@... <mailto:becakf%40wcjc.bec> writes: > > > >> > >> What every happen to the State saying that the Counties have to provide > >> some > >> kind of services. > >> Becat > >> > >> ____________ ________ ________ _ > >> > >> From: texasems-l@yahoogro From: texasems-l@yahoogro<w > >> Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:38 AM > >> To: texasems-l@yahoogro To: te > >> Subject: Re: County EMS > >> > >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > >> reasonable time yet none will come. > >> > >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > >> water in court. > >> > >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > >> > >> Renny > >> > >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > >> medicmomx4@. , medicm > >> > > >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > >> I was one > >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > >> went from > >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > >> worked a lot of > >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > >> , and > >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > >> that be, > >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > >> > > >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > >> for > >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > >> > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// <http://www.fanhousehttp:/www.http:/wwwhttp:/www.fanhohttp:/> < > >> http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// <http://www.fanhousehttp:/www.http:/wwwhttp:/www.fanhohttp:/> > ) > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 AMEN!!!!! Way to go Gene Re: County EMS > >> > >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > >> reasonable time yet none will come. > >> > >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > >> water in court. > >> > >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > >> > >> Renny > >> > >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > >> medicmomx4@. , medicm > >> > > >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > >> I was one > >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > >> went from > >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > >> worked a lot of > >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > >> , and > >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > >> that be, > >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > >> > > >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > >> for > >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > >> > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// < > >> http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp://> ) > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Gandy may be not oh so PC but he may well be right? shame we oh so often loose the message as we kill the messengers for the PC police in many many conversations. LNM - Re: County EMS Gandy fails the political correctness test. People are offended. People berate Gandy for lacking sensitivity. Abdul and Amahd laugh on their way to the bank. Clueless. -- ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Being in this business WE as EMS professionals HAVE OPINIONS. We vent mostly to our partners but PLEASE KEEP you racial comments to yourself!!!! As said, before me, they are not appreciated here. Belenda D. , NREMT-I Subject: Re: Re: County EMS To: texasems-l Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:33 PM I understand the points you make.? However, I was also offended by your racial remarks.? No place for that here or anywhere else in a professionals vocabulary. Bram Duffee, MS, LP Re: County EMS > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > reasonable time yet none will come. > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > water in court. > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > Renny > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro texasem <mailto:texasems- mailto:texasems- mai> , > medicmomx4@. , medicm > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > I was one > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > went from > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > worked a lot of > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > , and > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > that be, > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > ************ ************ <wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > for > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse http://www. fanhohttp: //www.fanhohttp: //www.f < > http://www.fanhouse http://www. fanhohttp: //www.fanhohttp: //www.f> ) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I dont care about PC.? I care about the fact you are an offensive person to me and sound racist.? Please just stop with the trash talk. Bram Duffee, MS, LP Re: County EMS > > > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > > reasonable time yet none will come. > > > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > > water in court. > > > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > > > Renny > > > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > > medicmomx4@. , medicm > > > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > > I was one > > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > > went from > > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > > worked a lot of > > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > > , and > > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > > that be, > > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > > for > > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// < > > http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp://> ) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 " Sensitivity " allows the opportunist to throttle the truth. " A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. " Proverbs 22:3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Bram, I just want to remind you of Gene's background. He was roaming the earth of EMS since we were in diapers. He is a true blue person that has got the respect by some of the biggest names in EMS. He has employed all ethnicity levels in his different variety of jobs and I personally know of different ethnicity medics that highly respect him. You are completely missing the point he is trying to make. All of you that have bashed him are missing the point. He might not have politically stated it the right way and you can be my guest on disagreeing with him. Although, you have to understand that Gene has seen radical changes in EMS, both good, bad, and between. He has taken many EMS company sides in different situations. He has taught many different people and he has been a great help in EMS today. I am just trying to tell you unless you have met Gene in person, and understood the compassion he has for EMS then don't bash him. He is far from racist and I will back him to the end of the rope with that. Thank You, Binkley Houston, TX Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: County EMS > > > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > > reasonable time yet none will come. > > > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > > water in court. > > > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > > > Renny > > > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> , > > medicmomx4@. , medicm > > > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > > I was one > > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > > went from > > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > > worked a lot of > > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > > , and > > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > > that be, > > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > > for > > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// < > > http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp://> ) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 bduffee@... wrote: > > >>I dont care about PC.? I care about the fact you are an offensive > person to me and sound racist.? Please just stop with the trash talk.<< > > And I can ttest that he is about the least offensive, least racist > person I know. But he is unfailingly blunt and not known for mincing > words, even if they do offend your sensibilities. > They make this thing called the " DELETE key... -- Grayson, CCEMT-P www.kellygrayson.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Also as a matter of point the Texas EMS list is NOT a state " run " list. LNM - Re: Re: County EMS bduffee@... wrote: > > >>I dont care about PC.? I care about the fact you are an offensive > person to me and sound racist.? Please just stop with the trash talk.<< > > And I can ttest that he is about the least offensive, least racist > person I know. But he is unfailingly blunt and not known for mincing > words, even if they do offend your sensibilities. > They make this thing called the " DELETE key... -- Grayson, CCEMT-P www.kellygrayson.com ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What I meant to say was a better choice of words could have been used. I am pretty sure a heck of a lot of people agree with you, and I am one of them but your choice of words could of been more thought out. > > > Subject: Re: Re: County EMS > To: texasems-l > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:33 PM > > > > > > > I understand the points you make.? However, I was also offended by your racial remarks.? No place for that here or anywhere else in a professionals vocabulary. > > Bram Duffee, MS, LP > > Re: County EMS > > > > This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a > > required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when > > budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected. > > And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a > > reasonable time yet none will come. > > > > I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family > > could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an > > ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation > > that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold > > water in court. > > > > Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it > > could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds > > from the budget. Sorry for rambling. > > > > Renny > > > > --- In texasems-l@yahoogro texasem <mailto:texasems- mailto:texasems- mai> , > > medicmomx4@ , medicm > > > > > > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating. > > I was one > > > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it > > went from > > > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we > > worked a lot of > > > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of > > , and > > > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers > > that be, > > > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time. > > > > > > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ************ <wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live > > for > > > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > > (http://www.fanhouse http://www. fanhohttp: //www.fanhohttp: //www.f < > > http://www.fanhouse http://www. fanhohttp: //www.fanhohttp: //www.f> ) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hey Gene, I think Ahbdul and Ahmed were ECA students of mine about 10 years back. So they finally started their service.... Kewl! ;-) Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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