Re: Re: Offensive Comments

July 23, 2008

Joan,

I like you.

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In a message dated 7/23/2008 1:31:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

joan_crawford1977@... writes:

" We definitely cannot always say what's on our mind. Or at least

shouldn't " .. In a perfect world where external mind control and pacifying the

feeble-minded masses is standard, this is an innovative concept. So if one is

offended by one's " political incorrectness " and thinks they should be silenced,

what about the flip side of that coin? I'm offended by political correctness

and bleeding heart liberals who feel the incessant need to quash the rights of

others in the name of social harmony. So with that twisted logic, I can

expect the martyrs of political correctness to bow down to my every whim? I

expect that to happen about a quarter to....NEVER. Until then, I will find

solace under the following and perhaps everyone should try the same: " It is the

mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting

it " -Aristotle

Joan the Vegetarian Bitch

(I make no apologies for my choice of words....even to the politically

incorrect meat eaters)

Re: County EMS

> >>

> >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a

> >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when

> >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected.

> >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a

> >> reasonable time yet none will come.

> >>

> >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family

> >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an

> >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation

> >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold

> >> water in court.

> >>

> >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it

> >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds

> >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling.

> >>

> >> Renny

> >>

> >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems- mailto:texasems-

mai> ,

> >> medicmomx4@. , medicm

> >> >

> >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating.

> >> I was one

> >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it

> >> went from

> >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we

> >> worked a lot of

> >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of

> >> , and

> >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers

> >> that be,

> >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time.

> >> >

> >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT

> >> >

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July 23, 2008

Heard a great line today on the History Channel.

" A free republic can not be destroyed from with out until it destroys itself

from within "

The US is a Republic lest we not forget that.

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In a message dated 7/23/2008 2:01:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

scottywmiles@... writes:

> > > In order for the State to say that, it will require

legislative action.

> > > Every time such a measure has been attempted, the Texas

Municipal League,

> > > which

> > > represents a majority of the cities in Texas, the

associations

> > representing

> > > county commissioners and judges, and other organizations

controlled by

> > local

> > > politicians have fought the measure tooth and nail. THEY HAVE

THE POWER.

> > EMS

> > > does not.

> > >

> > > It will take a major public uprising and revolt at the grass

roots level

> > > ever

> > > to get this through, and I do not see that happening. People

are quite

> > > ignorant about the EMS system, and all they see is a tax

increase if

> > service

> > > were

> > > made mandatory.

> > >

> > > Local officials still rely on private companies to jump in

and take over

> > the

> > > services either free or with a low subsidy, and there are

plenty of EMS

> > > Company Wannabees that will show up and run a fly by night

operation to

> > grab

> > > some

> > > bucks. They will pay their medics like wetback labor, use

worn-out

> > > ambulances,

> > > and the county/city officials will say, " See, we have EMS

service.

> There's

> > > no need for a state law. "

> > >

> > > Try getting an emergency service district through at a time

when gas is

> > > $4.00

> > > a gallon. These are the realities.

> > >

> > > I do not see the Texas legislature making EMS a required

public service

> as

> > > long as there are private services that will show up to do it.

> > >

> > > Just wait. Soon you'll hear that " Bubba and LeRoy's EMS and

Lawn Service "

> > > is coming to County. Or, more probably, " Abdul and

Amahd's

> > Nigerian

> > > Ambulance. "

> > >

> > > GG

> > >

> > > GG

> > > In a message dated 7/22/08 7:33:57 AM, becakf (AT) wcjc (DOT) bec

writes:

> > >

> > >>

> > >> What every happen to the State saying that the Counties have

to provide

> > >> some

> > >> kind of services.

> > >> Becat

> > >>

> > >> ____________ ________ ________ _

> > >>

> > >> From: texasems-l@yahoogro From: texasems-l@yahoogro <w

> > >> Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:38 AM

> > >> To: texasems-l@yahoogro To: te

> > >> Subject: Re: County EMS

> > >>

> > >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a

> > >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys

when

> > >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be

unprotected.

> > >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance

within a

> > >> reasonable time yet none will come.

> > >>

> > >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their

family

> > >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history

of an

> > >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable

expectation

> > >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would

hold

> > >> water in court.

> > >>

> > >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually

think it

> > >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut

funds

> > >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling.

> > >>

> > >> Renny

> > >>

> > >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-

mailto:texasems-

> mai> ,

> > >> medicmomx4@ , medicm

> > >> >

> > >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be

operating.

> > >> I was one

> > >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service,

went it

> > >> went from

> > >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us

and we

> > >> worked a lot of

> > >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the

citizens of

> > >> , and

> > >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the

powers

> > >> that be,

> > >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to

response time.

> > >> >

> > >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT

> > >> >

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July 23, 2008

The excellent post comment should go to K. Navarrro. He hit the nail on the

head. We definitely cannot always say what's on our mind. Or at least shouldn't.

Don

His comments:

Henry,

I checked with the TEXASEMS-L Acceptable Use Guidelines and was

astonished (hyperbole) to find out that that absolute openness is not

allowed. The list moderators can hold individuals responsible for

the words they choose. Gene (like all of us) may have the " freedom "

to say anything he chooses but he must also be willing to accept the

consequences of exercising that freedom.

Exercising political correctness prevents an individual from saying

something because it MIGHT be offensive to another. Exercising

cultural competence prevents the individual from saying something

because IT IS offensive. We should all strive to achieve cultural

competence.

I do not say many things to my students, my colleagues and the

public. I do not refrain from saying those things because someone

might be offended. I exercise restraint because they ARE offensive.

Whether I agree (or anyone else agrees) that Gene's comment was

offensive or not is irrelevant. Some people found Gene's words to be

hurtful and offensive.

Gene is not a stupid man. He knows the power of the words he

chooses. Now, let him accept the consequences of his choice.

Kenny Navarro

From my high horse in Dallas

>>> 07/23/08 9:32 AM >>>

Excellent post

Re: County EMS

> >>

> >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a

> >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when

> >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected.

> >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a

> >> reasonable time yet none will come.

> >>

> >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family

> >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an

> >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation

> >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold

> >> water in court.

> >>

> >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it

> >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds

> >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling.

> >>

> >> Renny

> >>

> >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems-mailto:texasems-mai> ,

> >> medicmomx4@. , medicm

> >> >

> >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating.

> >> I was one

> >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it

> >> went from

> >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we

> >> worked a lot of

> >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of

> >> , and

> >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers

> >> that be,

> >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time.

> >> >

> >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT

> >> >

> >> > ************ ************<wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live

> >> for

> >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

> >> > (http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp:// <

> >> http://www.fanhousehttp://www.http://wwwhttp://www.fanhohttp://> )

> >> >

July 23, 2008

>Kenny Navarro

>From my high horse in Dallas

Realize that if/when you get bucked off or fall off your high horse that, in our

attempts to avoid offending all persons who have, will, or know of somebody who

has or will be bucked off or fall off a high horse...that we will all be

laughing specifically at you, and definitely not laughing at those in general

who have, will, or know of somebody who has or will be bucked off or fall off a

high horse.

Phil Reynolds Jr.

115 Harold Dr.

Burnet, TX., 78611

HP

CP

July 23, 2008

" We definitely cannot always say what's on our mind. Or at least shouldn't " ..

In a perfect world where external mind control and pacifying the feeble-minded

masses is standard, this is an innovative concept. So if one is offended by

one's " political incorrectness " and thinks they should be silenced, what about

the flip side of that coin? I'm offended by political correctness and bleeding

heart liberals who feel the incessant need to quash the rights of others in the

name of social harmony. So with that twisted logic, I can expect the martyrs of

political correctness to bow down to my every whim? I expect that to happen

about a quarter to....NEVER. Until then, I will find solace under the following

and perhaps everyone should try the same: " It is the mark of an educated mind to

be able to entertain a thought without accepting it " -Aristotle

Joan the Vegetarian Bitch

(I make no apologies for my choice of words....even to the politically incorrect

meat eaters)

Re: County EMS

> >>

> >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a

> >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when

> >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected.

> >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a

> >> reasonable time yet none will come.

> >>

> >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family

> >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an

> >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation

> >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold

> >> water in court.

> >>

> >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it

> >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds

> >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling.

> >>

> >> Renny

> >>

> >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems- mailto:texasems- mai> ,

> >> medicmomx4@. , medicm

> >> >

> >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating.

> >> I was one

> >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it

> >> went from

> >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we

> >> worked a lot of

> >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of

> >> , and

> >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers

> >> that be,

> >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time.

> >> >

> >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT

> >> >

> >> > ************ ************ <wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live

> >> for

> >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

> >> > (http://www.fanhouse http://www. http://wwwhttp: //www.fanhohttp: // <

> >> http://www.fanhouse http://www. http://wwwhttp: //www.fanhohttp: //> )

> >> >

July 23, 2008

Dear God.... are you married?? I could fall in love with a woman with that

attitude!

And if you are married, instead, can I manage your campaign for whatever

political office you're seeking?

<SMILE>

-Wes Ogilvie

Re: Re: Offensive Comments

" We definitely cannot always say what's on our mind. Or at least shouldn't " ..?

In a perfect world where external mind control and pacifying the feeble-minded

masses is standard, this is an innovative concept.?? So if one is offended by

one's " political incorrectness " and thinks they should be silenced, what about

the flip side of that coin?? I'm offended by political correctness and bleeding

heart liberals who?feel the incessant need to quash the rights of others in the

name of social harmony.? So with that twisted logic, I can expect the martyrs of

political correctness to bow down to my every whim??? I expect that to happen

about a quarter to....NEVER.? Until then, I will find solace under the following

and perhaps everyone should try the same: " It is the mark of an educated mind to

be able to entertain a thought without accepting it " -Aristotle

Joan the Vegetarian Bitch

(I make no apologies for my choice of words....even to the?politically?incorrect

meat eaters)

Re: County EMS

> >>

> >> This is really proof of the need to push to have EMS become a

> >> required service. This could happen in any of our communitys when

> >> budget time rolls around. It is sad so many will be unprotected.

> >> And how many will dial 911 and still expect an ambulance within a

> >> reasonable time yet none will come.

> >>

> >> I wonder if someone dies when no ambulance shows up if their family

> >> could win money. My thinking is based on there was a history of an

> >> ambulance being there, so there would now be a reasonable expectation

> >> that there still is an ambulance. Don't know if that would hold

> >> water in court.

> >>

> >> Well I hate to see the loss of a service but I actually think it

> >> could actually be the first of many as everyone looks to cut funds

> >> from the budget. Sorry for rambling.

> >>

> >> Renny

> >>

> >> --- In texasems-l@yahoogro --- In <mailto:texasems- mailto:texasems- mai> ,

> >> medicmomx4@. , medicm

> >> >

> >> > I find it very sad that Ems will no longer be operating.

> >> I was one

> >> > of the first paramedics for the hospital based service, went it

> >> went from

> >> > being a private service. There were only a couple of us and we

> >> worked a lot of

> >> > hours to keep the county covered. We did it for the citizens of

> >> , and

> >> > now it will no longer be, well at least until one of the powers

> >> that be,

> >> > becomes a patient or loses someone they love due to response time.

> >> >

> >> > Melody Shelton (Graham) Emt-P, CRT

> >> >

> >> > ************ ************ <wbr>**Get fantasy football with free live

> >> for

> >> > FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

> >> > (http://www.fanhouse http://www. http://wwwhttp: //www.fanhohttp: // <

> >> http://www.fanhouse http://www. http://wwwhttp: //www.fanhohttp: //> )

> >> >

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